Subject: What I am reminded of not your low thinking. EducatiON
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 10:00:35 01/23/08 ()
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In your effort to remind me of what never happened or gossips you have tried to formulate because you are of the impression that that mindset will cause me to not think of issues like the link bellow, let me remind you of what made you come-up with such low thinking. I knew about it way before you did but my focus was on more important issues, my focus was on what the constitution of the country I reside in and International Law states, on moral laws, on what democracy is, on what I have done in my life and on my determination that you will never dream of thinking about why? We are different. I think in a Scientific modern mindset while you think in the Early man's mindset. You have long way to catch-up. I had the education I am sharing now since I was in Sierra Leone and mingled with people who think diplomatically thus I have no alternative but to think thus regardless of what you try to make yourself believe because you don't matter in what you are impossing on. State House, where I had the opportunity to talk to Presidents, Vice Presidents Ministers, Ambassadors and other diplomats taught me to think with uplifting confidence.
So try to elevate to that standard if you have the ability.
You are not my type by the way you think. I am just having fun, comparing and contrasting modern man to and from the Early man's way of thinking.
Come again!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PwpZVlOumc...feature=related
I was brought-up that way. You can not change that by the lack of character and integrity. Journalism!
Subject: Stone Age Early man vs Modern Age of Scientific thinking
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 09:38:28 01/23/08 ()
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Who is crazy now? If you can be at least honest with yourself for one minute.
Please bear with me to remind you of few things that were probably never occurred on your mind. Do you know that we live in one of the most Scientifically advanced nations, where people have gone and stepped on the moon? Do you know that Science has developed today whereby, babies born with six hands and six feet can be brought to their normal size with two feet and two legs? How about conjoined twins? They are separated to become their individual selves.
This was not possible several years ago. In fact, in Africa and many other nations babies were thrown into the bushes because they looked different, sound different or walk different. How many babies would that be? In their millions have been killed because the people then were not Scientifically minded. Those were years ago. Does it sound familiar?
It did not surprise me, knowing how certain people think in like manner, that when an individual sound different or walk different, he has to be a devil or he must be some one lesser. So though advancement has been made in Science, we the advanced thinkers still know that the mindset of the Stone Age still exists. There are people today who think no differently from the people named above who use to throw children in to the bushes for the named reasons or some other weird reasoning. This is the purpose I am serving to bring all to civilization whereby, people will start thinking in Scientific and other moral terms. In all efforts people have been making, I continue with them because I know how people in those days use to think without any Scientific consideration as the Modern man does.
Join me change the world for the better. So that no one will be hung on trees because they look different, speck different or live different. I am not mad at you at all but times have changed. Therefore, we must know that there are several reasons for why things happen the way they happen. Don�t jump into conclusions because we live in a civilized world now, different from those days named above.
How can an issue concerning the entire world, where there are millionaires and Billionaires, most powerful people like Congress and the Senate is not understood by you to mean that you too can raise feathers? Simply, the mindset of the yester years made you believe you have an edge correct? Mind you, this is your compatriot, your brother, boyfriend, husband, friend, associate, workmate, schoolmate, college mate to name a few. Scientifically you are made to see what he sees, hear what hear hears, when he is hungry you know, when he is honey, things I use to get at any second I wanted it, you know, when he is tired you know, when he is sick you know, all what you do he does, showing you that he is human just as you. But did you have human considerations? Why? He is different.
So the mindset of many will not baffle me but you will not stop me. I bet my life on it that as long as I live in a democracy, where the Constitution is the King, where the Rule of Law is the King, where Science has advanced, I will be fine even if no one had assured me. Most importantly, the God who made Adam and Eve, Abraham and Jacob is the God I believe in. I am not sure how far you believe in Satan but I believe in my God.
Don�t have time to read over.
Who is crazzy now?
Not all have the brain to reflect and connect the dots because some have Attention Deficiet Disorder Order (ADD,)others are just uncivilized period. The latter can NOT waste my time when they have no character and integrity.
Do we live in a Capitalistic and Constitutional democracy or you just don't understand the two principles? Is this a manifestation that you just don't understand the significance of education in a Capitalistic and Constitutional democracy to think that low in this global economy? Did you get your education by luck, hook or crook or you worked hard for it? I am not supprised. In that all you've been dealing with are people of low mental faculties and dreams so you think alike and resort to fabrication as your weapon, even when educated people are assembled, every sociologists, Psychologist to name a few that are reading who know what education means for people's standard of living in any civilized society as a Capitalistic and Constitutional Democracy.
You are not my type period!
Deal with trying to see if you can accept the following that has made you hyped and want to make such an disrespect informed and acclaimed by reputable people by what means? Exactly that which you are making refference to. What a difference!
How're you doing!
The civilized world huh!
Subject: AN ADVICE TO ALL APC CANDIDATES FOR THE NEXT BYE ELECTIONS.
From: ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA
To: All
Date Posted: 09:03:34 01/23/08 ()
Email Address: SAIDUBANGSO@AOL.COM
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I have been reliably informed that the APC is ready to put up candidates for the up coming bye elections in our country.
Based on the fact that 95% of the present APC delegation in our parliament are not parliamentary materials, I am most respectfully appealing to the leadership of the APC to ensure that the party puts up competent men and women who can efficiently represent their constituencies.
The people are fed up for seeing the APC sending little men and women of no significance(because they are empty in their heads, empty their minds and empty their pockets) to parliament.
I know that the APC has some very good parliamentary materials but since, they are not blind supporters of "O BAI"(PRESIDENT KOROMA)they are not qualified to enter the august house of representatives.
I am now hearing some names of candidates who have no meaningful contributions to make in parliament but are most likely to win not because they are the most suitable, but only because they supported president Koroma in the last elections.
I call on all the right thinking members of the APC to put the interest of Sierra Leone and its people, far above the interest of PRESIDENT ERNEST KOROMA.
I also call on the voters in our country to properly examine the past records of each candidates in the next bye elections.
I pray that God will direct our people to look for candidates with in-built moral values and proven public records.
The Sierra Leone parliament is not for dead woods, it is for men and women of a very high calibre.
Subject: Re: AN ADVICE TO ALL APC CANDIDATES FOR THE NEXT BYE ELECTIONS.
From: man pikin
To: All
Date Posted: 12:13:04 01/23/08 ()
Email Address: man_pikin@yahoo.com
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Saidu, please respect our Prezo. You are free to go to Sierra Leone to contest the upcoming local council elections or you can still stay here in Maryland, doing your watchman job. Please, give people a break. We are sick and tired of your negative criticism.
Subject: Re: AN ADVICE TO ALL APC CANDIDATES FOR THE NEXT BYE ELECTIONS.
From: LOW GRADE SAN SAN
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Date Posted: 09:32:06 01/23/08 ()
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I read with absolute revulsion in cocorioko the shameful behaviour of the slpp OBBA members who boycotted the laying out ceremony of the late Ajhaji SAT Koroma aka Ojuku. Boy, these guys must be really bitter to take it this far.
This slpp boycotted the Inauguration because the apc won the election. Result? The grandest occasion ever held at our national stadium.
They walked off in Parliament because dem sack we brother dem. Result? Parliament still approved all the presidential nominees.
Now this, OBBA slpp boycotting their own brother Alhaji SAT Koromas funeral. Response from the public? Aljhaji received a state burial with His Excellency the President Dr. Koroma being one of the PALL BEARERS. What next? Boycott the up coming local government election because of commissioner Thorpe?
Strategist at the apc we yone house must be rubbing their hands. The slpp may as well kiss goodbye to 2012. I just can't see how they are going to win a seat in 2012 without an slpp controlled local authority or councils even in their own back Yard. And the apc, being notorious for declaring their candidates unopposed, i won't be surprise to see all their northwestern candidates being declared unopposed in 2012. And then let the pmdc to land the killer punch on the slpp in the south east with a couple dozen seats.
It is ironic that whilest Alahaji SAT, one of the thirteen founding fathers of the apc has died a happy man, and received a good sending off, as a thank you for his service. The slpp founding fathers are turning in their graves in digust. Because of the hopeless way in which this once great party is being run into the ground by clueless political "chancers".
Alhaji SAT, "the best Agriculture minister that Sierra Leone has ever produced" May have sold a ship load of our fertilisers to another country, as a consequence his house on guard street in Freetown ended up being seized by Pa Shaki and later returned to him. This behaviour by OBBA slpp is even worst than Shaki dismissing late SB Marah from his cabinet because of attending Sir Albert Margai's funeral.
May his soul rest in perfect peace.
Subject: New People Editor Detained
From: Press Freedom
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Date Posted: 08:33:32 01/23/08 ()
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APC government is again showing its true colors. The New People editor in Freetown is being constantly harrassed by the police. The police said they have orders from State House. The APC said New People embarrassed them for exposing a mining deal the APC made through Minister of Mines, Abu Bakarr Jalloh and a dubious British national Howard Pym who is also honorary consul for Latvia in Britain. The saga unfolds.
Subject: Re: New People Editor Detained
From: Stop fabricating lies
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Date Posted: 11:20:34 01/23/08 ()
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I think the new people should pracitce responsible jounnalism, not fabricating lies. Even in the States, your report lies you pay the price.
Subject: Re: New People Editor Detained
From: sheku kallon
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Date Posted: 10:09:08 01/23/08 ()
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See the story that finally broke the back of the APC and forced them to start the same old APC tactics.
Subject: Re: New People Editor Detained
From: wow now
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Date Posted: 10:25:50 01/23/08 ()
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it is a shame that any government in salone tries to curb freedom of speech whether it be apc or slpp. i thought the new apc was different. if this is true it is a shame. are we gonna go back to the dark ages where governemt manufatures charges to get rid of those with different views? i hope not.
Subject: about declaration of assets and investigating all previous
From: neutral wan
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Date Posted: 07:17:52 01/23/08 ()
Email Address: neutralwan@msn.com
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I am neutral on this issue. I feel that if ebk is going to stand by his task to get rid of corruption he should investigate those before him. those in their now should be watched also. and also he should declare his assets. the longer he waits the more it looks suspicious. if he would have declared his assets that would have been seen as a sign of him been above corruption. it does not take long to declare ones assets. this is not stone age. lets stop lying to our people. and any slpp ministers whom it can be proven stole wealth from the countries coffers should be investigated. same goes to the old apc and the nprc. equal justice for all. but where are we going to find someone whom is not influenced by partisan politics? someone whom would not take bribes? whom would investigate all previous governments. where was the oversight by ebk when they were in the opposition? I better see some over sight by slpp now that they are in opposition. lets get to the problems instead of throwing partisan jabs at each other and not solving anything. where are the patriotic sierra Leoneans? that would put country before tribe or party politics? God bless salone.
Subject: OPENING A BUSINESS IN SALONE
From: SALONEMAN
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Date Posted: 05:40:27 01/23/08 ()
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WE CAN FIX SIERRA LEONE.
Candid Opinion,your topic is a very interesting one.People who are holding such important positions in Sierra Leone tranformed themselves into the biggest,"greedy",nasty monster with an apetite for corruption that is unmeasurable.IT ALL ABOUT GREED.THEIR GREED KILLED THEIR CONCIENCE LONG TIME AGO.THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT THE EFFECT OF THEIR ACTIONS.
EXAMPLE WILL BE A MR XY THAT WORKS FOR CUSTOMS AT THE PORT OF ENTRY IN FREETOWN.THIS MAN BUILT THREE HOUSES OVER A PERIOD OF FIVES YEARS.HE IS COLLECTING A LOT OF RENT IN FOREIGN CURRENCIES FROM THESE HOUSES.BUT GUESS WHAT HE IS STILL STEALING MONEY FROM CUSTOMS.
I PERSONALLY THINK WE DON'T HAVE INVESTIGATIVE JOUNALIST ANYMORE IN SIERRA LEONE.WHY ARE THEY NOT EXPOSING THESE TYPE OF BROAD DAYLIGHT ROBBERY DONE BY THESE SO CALLED UNTOUCHABLE THIEVES.
I THINK WE SHOULD START FIGHTING BACK AGAINST THESE THIEVES BY REFUSING TO COMPROMISE WITH THEIR DESTRUCTIVE GREED THAT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE BACKWARDNESS OF OUR NATION.FORGET ABOUT THE TWO OR THREE DAYS INCONVIENT THAT ALWAYS SURRENDER US INTO COMPROMISING.YES SHORT TERM SOLUTION BUT LONG TERM PROBLEMS.
HELP ME OUT.WHAT DO YOU THINK IT WILL BE LIKE,FOR ME TO SHIP MY GOODS TO SIERRA LEONE.
1.DEMAND FOR A RECEIPT FOR EVERY TRANSACTION.
IF NOT GIVEN CALL ON A REPUTABLE JOURNALIST TO COME DOWN TO THE PORT TAKE PICTURES AND WRITE THE STORIES.
2.ANTI-CORRUPTION UNIT SHOULD MAKE THEIR NUMBERS PUBLISHED,BY POSTING THEM UP IN AL OF THE OFFICES AT CUSTOMS AND EVERY GOVERNMENT OFFICES THAT COLLECT REVENUE.SO THAT,IF AN ACCURATE RECEIPT IS NOT PROVIDED AFTER A TRANSACTION THE ANTI-CORRUPTION UNIT COULD BE CONTACTED IMMEDIATELY.
3.NATIONAL RADIO SHOULD BE USED TO EDUCATE THE PEOPLE ABOUT THEIR RIGHT TO AN ACCURATE RECEIPT FOR EVERY GOVERNMENT AGENCIES THEY TRANSACT WITH.
4.VICTIMS OF FRAUD WITH AUTHENTIC COMPLAIN SHOULD BE GIVEN OPPORTUNITY AND AIR TIME TO TALK ABOUT THEIR EXPERIENCES(BUT MECHANISM SHOULD BE PUT IN PLACE TO COMBAT WITCH HUNT).EVERY WEEK A PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT THAT COLLECT REVENUE SHOULD BE CHOSEN AND CALLERS INVITED TO TALK ABOUT THEIR GOOD OR BAD EXPERIENCES. EXPERTS OR REPRESENTATIVES FROM THESE AGENCIES SHOULD BE CALLED UPON TO TALK ABOUT THE CORRECT FEES OR GHARGES PEOLE SHOULD EXPECT.
5.INFORMATION ABOUT THE TARIFF/FEES OR CHARGES SHOULD BE MADE AVAILABLE AT THE CUSTOMS AND ALL OFFICES THAT COLLECT FEES.
6.ANTI-CORRUPTION AGENCY SHOULD SET UP SEMINARS FOR SENIOR AND JUNIOR MANAGERS OF THE VARIOUS REVENUE COLLECTION AGENCIES TO EDUCATE AND WARN THEM ABOUT THE DANGERS OF CORRUPTIONS.CERTIFICATE SHOULD BE ISSUED UPON COMPLETION OF THE SEMINARS.COPIES OF CERTIFICATES SHOULD BE KEPT BY THE AGENCY.
7.SPECIAL COURTS SHOULD BE SET UP TO HANDLE CORRUPTION CASES FROM GOVERNMENT REVENUE COLLECTION AGENCIES.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN PLEASE LET CONTRIBUTE IDEAS AS TO HOW WE COULD SAVE OUR NATION.
LET WORK TOGETHER AS ONE
Subject: Call to prosecute Kabbah and Berewa for killing Kula Samba
From: Concerned Citizen
To: All
Date Posted: 02:36:12 01/23/08 ()
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Only when Kabbah and Berewa are tried for crime against humanity that some of us will know that the International Community is serious to try those who execute their opponets innocently.
The double standards of the West is scary. Yesterday, they were maligning Komba Kambo and Tom Nyuma for executing Sierra Leoneans. My question is why do Britain and the United Syayes are silent over the dastardly act commited by Kabbah and Berewa? Berewa is now in Bradford unashamedly involving in thesis about peace. Is it because Bradford is the only city in the UK that is run by a non English man?
Sierra Leoneans including Kula Samba friends around the world must petition the British governmnet for allowing a war criminal to lecture at one of Britain's Universities. We need to mobilise at the University with placards calling for the indictment of Berewa or to be deported from Britain.
Why did the British authorities deport Straaser for human rights violations and at the same time accomodating a murderer who helped to kill twenty four innocent people in cold blood.
There has to be a campaign for the late Kula Samba and others.
Kabbah and Berewa must not be allowed to live in peace for their action to execute a female innocent soldier who studied very hard to help her community.
Shame on the World to allow human rights violators dining with important figures in the World.
Justice needs to be done for the sake of posterity. Kabbah needs to call to face a court of law and apologise to the families of those he and Berewa butchered.
Sierra Leoneans must not leave this alone for Olivet College. Kula Samba was our mother, sister and friend.
Subject: Re: Call to prosecute Kabbah and Berewa for killing Kula Samba
From: LOW GRADE SAN SAN
To: All
Date Posted: 09:26:59 01/23/08 ()
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i am ready to join this campaign to indict BELEWA for war crime. Give me a shout any time you need me. As a trade union rep. i will discuss it with my union colleagues at the branch meeting tomorrow to see if we can picket Bradford university in order to expose this Killer. Now we are going to see if all those motor mouth in the Friends Of Berewa brigade who were talking all kinds of rubbish during his days as VP were really his true friend or just fair weather friends. If you want me to make flyer's just tell me what you want on it and how many you need. This killer must be brought to justices.
Subject: Re: Call to prosecute Kabbah and Berewa for killing Kula Samba
From: ok doc
To: All
Date Posted: 07:03:09 01/23/08 ()
Email Address: okdoc@msn.com
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You know why because they do not really care about what goes on in our country. plus the death sentence is not illegal in some parts in the us. what we need to do is reform our judicial system to avoid future minas, kula sambas and u know the list goes on from all parties that have help the presidency. until there is a seriousness beyong partisan approach to have our judicial, legislative and executive branch seperate from each other we would continue to see such acts. male or female soldier if u accused of treason we all kno win third world your chances of survival are zero. all political parties have used this as a means to get rid of those they disagreed with at times and other times its been real. but i say reform the judicial, executive and legislative branch to be seperate from each other.
Subject: Mr. Inspector General, What About The Welfare Fund?
From: DIAMINT PEDDLER
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Date Posted: 00:24:16 01/23/08 ()
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Mr. Inspector General, What About The Welfare Fund?
Posted by on Jan 23, 2008, 00:07
Perhaps our newly crowned Vice President of Sierra Leone, Samuel Sam Sumana does not know that he is the Chairman of the police council and has the legitimate right to demand from his juniors an explanation about the much talked about police welfare fund that is benefiting a segment of the police hierarchy, leaving out those who should benefit from it.
The welfare fund is gradually becoming an embarrassment to most of the police officers, but being that it is a compulsory payment there is nothing to be done, but to fill and re-fill the pockets of Brima Acha and some of his men especially those that are signatories to the fund at the Commercial Bank. The pathetic side of this compulsory payment can be properly explained by the victims who in no way can challenge the authority of their boss, nor can any one refuse to pay.
The money is regularly deducted from source just like the union fees paid by teachers that the clever squealers are benefiting from. Some say, it is a sad reflection on pay day, but it is like a jungle field where the strongest survives and the weak and weakest always at their mercy. In the Sierra Leone Police force headed by Brima Acha Kamara, payment of the welfare fund is a must as it serves so many purposes. The big Vons would have to replenish their spending, especially after the 2007 elections when part of the fund was used to augment the elections as police contribution to the success of their Chairman, which unfortunately never materialized. Problems in the police force are insurmountable, ranging from indiscipline, lawlessness, insubordination to short payment in police salary and many more.
A situation that constantly puts professionalism into the cesspit, sometimes permanently when immediate solutions are not adopted to remedy the situation, in other times it is temporal, a scenario that currently exists within the rank and file of Acha Kamara, s police �Force for good� The concept of good is relative and can have achievable results depending on the focus of implementation. In contrast, the method of implementation in the police situation has caused it to loose its value and be made unproductive.
It could be productive when new initiatives come into play. But for now Acha Kamara is suffering from diminishing returns, this is because he has already reached his optimum, the cells, tissues, organs and systems have become exhausted with no time or provision for replenishment. The result of all these have transformed the police chief into a monumental statue only for the looks of bystanders.
Certainly, much has to be done for the police force to redeem its image and better serve the people of this nation. The APC government can realise the true essence of the police when it decides to put away self in the interest of the country. The statement of Antonio to Bassanio in Shakespeare, Merchant of Venice has a moral lesson to learn, for according to Antonio the world is a stage where every man has a part to play, for some people it could be a sad one, whilst others a happy and enjoyable one. Acha Kamara may have witnessed or played the part of a happy and enjoy one to which he does not feel or imagine that he should descend from the stage.
As an Inspector General of Police, his salary is not anything significant and incompatible with his day-to-day running costs. There comes in the bigger question. Where is Brima Acha Kamara getting all the money to erect buildings in the city of Freetown and some parts in the Northern Province? Candidly, not from the police welfare fund, but as Inspector General of Police carrying crowns on his shoulders and on the head are the requisite requirements to make money without the use of the fore and hind muscles, just the head strategizing; and with loyal men put in strategic places such as the Lungi International Airport to give reports of incoming and outgoing investors to the country with lots of foreign currencies against international travelling currency regulations, or those who buy gold and diamond without proper documentations fortune can be quickly realized.
As the country�s, police chief, it is easy to put some of your loyal men in areas that they can apprehend drug traffickers and make sure they bring them or contact you immediately the exercise bears fruit so that a meeting can be arranged between you or your representative and them with strict instruction that can generate foreign currencies.
Arrange with investors from overseas and get them to issue out a �Power of Attorney� to your family member whom you trusted to run your deal while he/she reports to you.
These and more are some of the ways an Inspector General of Police can make money without countenancing his meagre salary.
One does not know whether or not this situation is applicable to all Inspector Generals of Police, including my country. What is evidently clear is that Sierra Leone cannot be excluded from this �Dog eats dog world� where every Jack and Jill in positions of trusts want to get rich at the expense of the state, its people and subordinates. The Sierra Leone Police is retrogressing rather than progressing, despite the false impression to the public that it a force for good. It is a sad state of affairs that needs urgent attention of the government in the interest of national development and the promotion of effective security network in the country.
Subject: Re: Mr. Inspector General, What About The Welfare Fund?
From: GOOD MAN
To: All
Date Posted: 01:52:31 01/23/08 ()
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Mr Diamint Peddler,you were part of the walfare fund racket,please i know you and i will expose you in this public forum.It is a disgrace and shame on your path,after you have benefited from the above WALFARE FUND RACKET----YOU THINK you ARE A HERO BY EXPOSING THE DEAL.WHY YOU DID NOT SAY SOMETHING,WHEN YOU WERE PART OF THE DEAL--MR NIT- WIT
On the issue about the VP been chairman of the police council ,MR COW BRAIN the VP IS ON TOP OF HIS GAME.
it about time we sierra leoneans STOP THE INSULTS ON THE VP.WE LIKE IT OR NOT SAM SUMANA IS OUR VP.HE IS THE MAN ------BRAVO BRAVO VP SAM SUMANA
Subject: JOKE FOR MY SLPP N'GOHS
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 00:00:12 01/23/08 ()
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What's the difference between a porcupine and the SLPP?
Answer: The porcupine has its pricks on the outside!
C'mon guys, have a sense of humor. Get off your morose pursuit of Christina Thorpe and all the legal warfare and enjoy some hot Wolosso.
Subject: Re: JOKE FOR MY SLPP N'GOHS
From: Kamara
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Date Posted: 07:46:21 01/23/08 ()
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I guess APC has pricks inside and around it Eh . Good joke Fen Plaba but it does not negate ernest Bombali Koroma and the APC's shortcomings.
Subject: Response for Ambassador John E. Leigh.
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 21:46:28 01/22/08 ()
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Your Excellency Ambassador John E. Leigh thank you for your response, where you stated :
�Dear Mr. Bambay Lans Kamara:
I completely disagree with the points you've articulated about my responsibility as a former diplomat. You are totally wrong and poorly informed!
Crooked officials at times use issues of confidentiality as a ruse to hide their huge crimes against our people. In this regard, nothing I have said violates any commitment I have undertaken. In fact, I have a responsibility to do whatever I can to make our country a much better place.�
In response, let me humbly say, Sir, I would not argue your opinion as it is your right. However, I believe my statement was virtually misconstrued in that, I was not objecting to your civic responsibility but the phenomenon that people are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. That speculations must also not be construed as allegations nor should allegations be misunderstood as guilt.
My emphasis were on the readings I have done from the testimonies to the Truth and Reconciliation Committee made by President Kabba, President Earnest Koroma, when he was opposition leader, the accused persons and other witnesses including amputees. In all these testimonies and documents, from the said reading, no one made mention of Col. Gaddafi as co-conspirator to Charles G. Taylor or playing any significant role in aiding and abating rebels to stage war in our country. Indeed, it was reported by the rebels during these testimonies that they trained in Libya but they did not say they received support from Col. Gaddafi specifically. I do not think that such statement connected him to our war in any way, until the prosecutor proves otherwise. Therefore, we must constrain our conclusions along this line.
Nonetheless, I would not refute you as I try to glean information on the allegation that the prosecutor made this pronouncement. However, even if he does, we must presume that he is making his case, and as such, as no indictment has been made towards the arrest for the prosecution of Col. Gaddafi therefore, we should consider it an allegation not guilt or conviction thereby, restricting our observations within such limits.
I have looked through the following: http://www.sc-sl.org/ website and many others but have not been able to find such information. However, I would not refute your statement with this regard until I have substantial evidence to.
My specific statement on this issue on on January 20, 2008 at 16:02:37
was:
�Let me also remind you that as a one time diplomat, you have been entangled by such responsibility, disallowing you from making certain pronouncements as the ordinary person who has no diplomatic experience would. The latter would say anything with no consideration of impacts. But you became different immediately you took-up that position till the day you leave this earth. In that note, I would caution that you tone-down in making accusatory remarks especially when it comes to matters of Inter-state or International, if you will.�
What I am implying here is as I stated above, that you should be conversant with law and diplomatic proceedings to know that regardless of the fact that a prosecutor made such pronouncements does not necessary made it true or false until the court proves thus. Therefore, you should be tactful in making allegations that you have no substantial evidence to support particularly when many know you to be a one time Ambassador.
Furthermore, let us bear in mind that Gaddafi cannot oversee all activities that take place in his country the same way none of our presidents could and would.
I continued in my response to you on the said date and time that,
�In that note therefore, contrary to what you claim about Ghaffi's contribution in our war, let me humbly state, for the record, that in all my readings, I have only found information on the role Libya played as host to rebels' training but I never found where direct accusations were made against, nor any slight implications that Col. Muamar Qaddafi played any significant role towards launching, supporting and harboring rebels in Sierra Leone's rebel movement. In which case, you as a one time diplomat must know that such accusations must be carefully examined to prevent bad blood from developing.�
I hope I did not sound obnoxious or disrespectful in any way because that is not my intent but pure interest.
Once again, thank you for your response and your time.
Subject: END OF TWO FOOT ARATA
From: view point
To: All
Date Posted: 21:10:57 01/22/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Some one said shout, if you think SLPP still have any life left. I say, tell SLPP no one needs 2 foot arata at state house. Kabba and Berewa can go to there grave knowing that SLPPis gone for good.
Rest in peace after your purnishment in hell.SLPPers
Subject: Wanted Nigerian hands himself in travelling from Salon
From: Town Crier
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Date Posted: 17:00:32 01/22/08 ()
Email Address:
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A former state governor in Nigeria has handed himself in to the country's anti-corruption body, the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission.
Lucky Igbinedion - who served as governor of Edo state - has been charged with 142 counts of corruption.
He was charged earlier this month, but is reported to have returned to the country by road from Sierra Leone.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7201026.stm
Subject: Deleted Posting
From: Censorship
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Date Posted: 16:47:39 01/22/08 ()
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Message:
Hey Kabs-Kanu why did you delete my posting? Is it because I exposed the bunch of thieves APC calls ministers? Have you forgotten that these fools are embarrassingly public officials? Now delete this again.
Subject: Re: Deleted Posting
From: Moderator
To: All
Date Posted: 17:18:41 01/22/08 ()
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3. You agree that you will not use the forum to post any pornography, advertisement or other commercial message. You agree not to post any knowingly false, defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, harassing, obscene, sexually oriented or threatening message or material that is illegally invasive of another person's privacy.
Forum owners will attempt to delete any inappropriate posts as quickly as possible; however, the submissions are generally posted in real-time and are typically not reviewed by the forum administrator or its editorial staff before they are posted to the site.
Subject: Re: Deleted Posting
From: Truth Hurts
To: All
Date Posted: 04:30:36 01/23/08 ()
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Moderator my foot. Anything about the APC thieves is deleted. Oona go reach oona waterloo. Here we go again. Logus Koroma misappropriated funds meant for Masingbi-Kono highway before deleting find out whether it is true. Logus knows it is true. We all in the Washington DC area know Pat Sowe is a crook and Fat Khadi had never been able to rent an apartment on her own. Do you deny that Mr. Moderator?
Subject: Re: Deleted Posting
From: Moderator
To: All
Date Posted: 10:48:30 01/23/08 ()
Email Address:
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If you have a bone to pick with anyone, call them and express your grudge, or send them an email. Do not come here hiding under some handle to throw stones at people. Have a beef with APC, go to their forum.
Subject: IS MBALU A DOUBLE FGM MUTILEE?
From: Connot Ospitle
To: All
Date Posted: 16:38:58 01/22/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-4577b27b.dyn.optonline.net at 69.119.178.123
Message:
Just came back from Freetown where I visited Connaught. In one of the wards I saw a lady who was writhing in pain. It appears that she had travelled from the U.S.A to Sierra Leone to campaign against Bondo Circumcision. At the tiny village of Mabalay, the Digbas were so infuriated that they immediately grabbed her and swung pen knives. They performed a crude surgery that scraped off the little, tiny bit that had been left over from her first Bondo episode. Of course this diasporan lady was screaming and bawling in pain and could not talk to me. I got the story from the Connaught staff.
I am not sure who she was but I somehow suspect, from the forum chatter, that she was Mbalu.
Anyway Miss Mbalu, if you are still intact since your Salone visit, please post. We're kinda worried about you. All the best.
Subject: Opening a business in salone..
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 14:12:39 01/22/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ns.nucleusns2.com at 12.44.12.126
Message:
Our nation and it civil service needs urgent revamping.. the revenue generating arm of the government is stiffling growth and endearing corruption..
EBK.. if you can only spent 1 million on upgrades to the NRA and income tax the ROI will be 2000%.
We desparately need systemic and process re-education to get these lazy idiots at these government ministrys undertand that... the more people you process for the day.. the more goverment get small tin.. the more you self get small chap..
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This is from a friend of mine's encouter at ROXY building. in an attempt to register a business.
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http://forum.visitsierraleone.org/forum_posts.asp?TID=2095&PN=1
You know what? I thought this topic was only like a couple of months ago!! I hadn't realised this is from June. Well, news folks.. the advanced tax still exists. Apparently even though it's been passed in Parliament since JUNE! the President still needs to sign some piece of paper (or gazette it, whatever) and until he does that NRA is having none of it. So i was charged (the minimum) Le800,000 for tax (payable in quarterly installments of Le200,000) + Le3,000 for some BR form + Le5,000 for a written statement + Le10,000 for a c/certificate.. . These are the official charges (even though i never received a receipt for the forms) oh.. not to mention 'facilitation fees'
24hrs? turnaround? We're far from that just now.. Roxy building where the Business name registration takes place is one of the most archaic offices i've been in. Paper files everywhere.. not a single computer in sight.. only typewriters that get moved from desk to desk... oh.. not to mention i needed an additional form and was told they'd run out and i'd have to come back the next day (poof! there goes your 24hrs). I had to come back the next day for a simple form!! Plus after spending 3 days at Roxy building, i then had to go to NRA at Lumley.. left my forms there and expecting a call tomorrow or Thursday... then i have to go back to Roxy Building.. God help me.
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Subject: Re: Opening a business in salone..
From: Mohamed barrie
To: All
Date Posted: 16:46:30 01/22/08 ()
Email Address: ncsneak@aol.com
Entered From: 24-178-69-11.dhcp.smyr.ga.charter.com at 24.178.69.11
Message:
I wish him good luck. Let him try to open a business account in sierra leone. That is going to be hell too.If you want to open an account at standard bank, you need to have two references from individuals who have an account with standard bank. The rules and red tape would drive anyone crazy. People wonder why African countries are poor and under develop.And also try to clear goods or personal effect from ports.
Subject: Re: Opening a business in salone..
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 18:21:29 01/22/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ip68-100-48-137.dc.dc.cox.net at 68.100.48.137
Message:
Bra,
I had done the ports thing back in 1992.. it was a nightmare.. free 4 all..
I cant imagine how it is these days...
Like you say.. we wonder why we are pooor.......
Subject: Re: Opening a business in salone..
From: Saloneman
To: All
Date Posted: 05:30:47 01/23/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 66.23.15.6
Message:
Candid Opinion,your topic is a very interesting one.People who are holding such important positions in Sierra Leone tranformed themselves into the biggest,"greedy",nasty monster with an apetite for corruption that is unmeasurable.IT ALL ABOUT GREED.THEIR GREED KILLED THEIR CONCIENCE LONG TIME AGO.THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT THE EFFECT OF THEIR ACTIONS.
EXAMPLE WILL BE A MR XY THAT WORK FOR CUSTOMS AT THE PORT OF ENTRY IN FREETOWN.THIS MAN BUILT THREE HOUSES OVER A PERIOD OF FIVES YEARS.HE IS COLLECTING A LOT OF RENT IN FOREIGN CURRENCIES FROM THESE HOUSES.BUT GUESS WHAT HE IS STILL STEALING MONEY FROM CUSTOMS.
I PERSONALLY THINK WE DON'T HAVE INVESTIGATIVE JOUNALIST ANYMORE IN SIERRA LEONE.WHY ARE THEY NOT EXPOSING THESE TYPE OF BROAD DAYLIGHT ROBBERY DONE BY THESE SO CALLED UNTOUCHABLE THIEVES.
I THINK WE SHOULD START FIGHTING BACK AGAINST THESE THIEVES BY REFUSING TO COMPROMISE WITH THEIR DESTRUCTIVE GREED THAT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE BACKWARDNESS OF OUR NATION.FORGET ABOUT THE TWO OR THREE DAYS INCONVIENT THAT ALWAYS SURRENDER US INTO COMPROMISING.YES SHORT TERM SOLUTION BUT LONG TERM PROBLEMS.
HELP ME OUT.WHAT DO YOU THINK IT WILL BE LIKE,FOR ME TO SHIP MY GOODS TO SIERRA LEONE.
1.DEMAND FOR A RECEIPT FOR EVERY TRANSACTION.
IF NOT GIVEN CALL ON A REPUTABLE JOURNALIST TO COME DOWN TO THE PORT TAKE PICTURES AND WRITE THE STORIES.
2.ANTI-CORRUPTION UNIT SHOULD MAKE THEIR NUMBERS PUBLISHED,BY POSTING THEM UP IN AL OF THE OFFICES AT CUSTOMS AND EVERY GOVERNMENT OFFICES THAT COLLECT REVENUE.SO THAT,IF AN ACCURATE RECEIPT IS NOT PROVIDED AFTER A TRANSACTION THE ANTI-CORRUPTION UNIT COULD BE CONTACTED IMMEDIATELY.
3.NATIONAL RADIO SHOULD BE USED TO EDUCATE THE PEOPLE ABOUT THEIR RIGHT TO AN ACCURATE RECEIPT FOR EVERY GOVERNMENT AGENCIES THEY TRANSACT WITH.
4.VICTIMS OF FRAUD WITH AUTHENTIC COMPLAIN SHOULD BE GIVEN OPPORTUNITY AND AIR TIME TO TALK ABOUT THEIR EXPERIENCES(BUT MECHANISM SHOULD BE PUT IN PLACE TO COMBAT WITCH HUNT).EVERY WEEK A PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT THAT COLLECT REVENUE SHOULD BE CHOSEN AND CALLERS INVITED TO TALK ABOUT THEIR GOOD OR BAD EXPERIENCES. EXPERTS OR REPRESENTATIVES FROM THESE AGENCIES SHOULD BE CALLED UPON TO TALK ABOUT THE CORRECT FEES OR GHARGES PEOLE SHOULD EXPECT.
5.INFORMATION ABOUT THE TARIFF/FEES OR CHARGES SHOULD BE MADE AVAILABLE AT THE CUSTOMS AND ALL OFFICES THAT COLLECT FEES.
6.ANTI-CORRUPTION AGENCY SHOULD SET UP SEMINARS FOR SENIOR AND JUNIOR MANAGERS OF THE VARIOUS REVENUE COLLECTION AGENCIES TO EDUCATE AND WARN THEM ABOUT THE DANGERS OF CORRUPTIONS.CERTIFICATE SHOULD BE ISSUED UPON COMPLETION OF THE SEMINARS.COPIES OF CERTIFICATES SHOULD BE KEPT BY THE AGENCY.
7.SPECIAL COURTS SHOULD BE SET UP TO HANDLE CORRUPTION CASES FROM GOVERNMENT REVENUE COLLECTION AGENCIES.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN PLEASE LET CONTRIBUTE IDEAS AS TO HOW WE COULD SAVE OUR NATION.
Subject: Focused Ministers
From: Focus
To: All
Date Posted: 12:27:45 01/22/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Fat Khadi Sesay, CNA who refused to pay part of her rent before going to Freetown.
Palo Conteh Creditors are looking for him in London. Na owe monger
Pat Sowe, highly honored certificated crook
Abu Bakarr Jalloh destitute in Virginia before his appointment
Logus Koroma: Stole money meant for the rehabilitation of Masingbi Kono Highway
Afsatu Kabbah cannot even express herself in cabinet meetings
Richard Konteh sacked from ECOWAS for misappropriation of funds.
They are focused indeed these Northern buffoons.
Subject: Re: Focused Ministers
From: akamara
To: All
Date Posted: 12:34:49 01/22/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
How did they pass the senate confirmation, if this is true. Bombali-Tonkolili-Axis at it again. I hope Ernest Bombali Koroma has an eye on these guys.
Subject: Re: Focused Ministers
From: Senator
To: All
Date Posted: 12:38:39 01/22/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Easy confirmation. The parliament is infested with APC Northern buffoons who are in the majority. The same way they flouted the constitution to confirmed the most ignorant Bank Governor we have ever had in Sierra Leone
Subject: The Agenda Continues
From: Northernization
To: All
Date Posted: 07:24:19 01/22/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Read on leonenet that Osman Barrie has been forced to resign as Deputy Commissioner of NRA. Another APC Northerner is set to be given the job.
Subject: Re: The Agenda Continues
From: View Point
To: All
Date Posted: 11:55:10 01/22/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-187-64-127.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net at 71.187.64.127
Message:
Let�s say Mr. Barrie might be a person suitable for the Tejan Kabba's Administration. For the aggressive economy growth that is needed by Dr. Koroma, he is not up to the task. His revenue collections thus speak for itself. For our Economy to grow, we must be aggressive in revenue collections. Besides, he has been resistance to change. If he cannot adapt, he must get-out of the way.
To conclude, how many Osman Barrie�s were appointed to key positions by his Excellency Dr. Koroma?
Please stop these unnecessary accusations. Let�s look at the merit of his dismissal.
Remember, only a Coach is empowered to replace a good or bad player during a match. The President gave Mr. Barrie ample opportunity to vindicate himself. In my opinion ninety days is enough to study or change any situation. On the basis of his performance and cooperation his time is up.
He will be remembered for all he is worth... Pray for him.
Subject: Re: The Agenda Continues
From: LOW GRADE SAN SAN
To: All
Date Posted: 09:51:34 01/22/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
The African Nations Cup has just kicked off in Ghana. Lets assume that Sierra Leone was there playing with 5 Safroko Linbas, 3 Tonkor Limbas and 2 Warawara Limbas (532 sweeper system). With coach Raka RACKSON of the great Wusum Stars as manager.
Leone Stars then end up winning the tournament which has never happened. Capay step forward and lift the Cup. Which Players have just won the 2008 Nations Cup? LIMBAS? errr Sierra Leoneans. And who will be celebrating the victory if u nor geh bad hart? LIMBAS? No ! nar SA. LEONE win so we dae fill boti hol net.
My point? I don't care who is there as long as the person is fit to be there and can give me the result that i want and deserve. For those who would say, but there are other tribes who should have been in the team who are equally as good as the limba players.
We nor don win? So whats the fuss about limba northernization? If there is any injury or suspension we will let you know, for now, the 11 limba man team dae play well en don win. APC supporter? Never ! not even in my wildest dream. I've just had enough of the TRIBAL rant.
Subject: Re: The Agenda Continues
From: Conrad Riedel
To: All
Date Posted: 07:58:50 01/22/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ip503dc437.speed.planet.nl at 80.61.196.55
Message:
What we should be thinking about now is how can we help those appointed by the President to move Sierra Leone forward.
We have to accept the fact that the last elections, saw political parties drawn their support from specific regions and knowing the vulnerability of Sierra Leoneans, it is alright to identify with the people who fought all odds to give the APC a victory.
Straying away from the people's sons and daughters will put the Ernest Koroma Presidency into jeopardy.
Now it is the duty of the appointed officials to prove their mettle and uphold the oath to serve Sierra Leone dilligently.
I am talking as an outsider.The crop of Ministers in this APC government are all men and women of focus and total committment.
Those who are crying wolf now must know that politicians seem to serve a government but deep down, they are not commited in their job. We have seen how the APC one part governmnet infiltrated.
My personal observation, is that EBK does not want to fail the people of Sierra Leone and by working with those he trust, there is a greater chance that his mission to bring food on the table of many people will be accomplished.
I have no qualms over the munber of Northerners as long as they are willing and honestly try to fix the country's economy and its institutions.
Subject: Re: The Agenda Continues
From: So What!!
To: All
Date Posted: 07:32:41 01/22/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 83.229.112.2
Message:
So what.Temnes have suffered a lot since 1992 coup, and now is their time to enjoy
Subject: Re: The Agenda Continues
From: Saidu Daphay Turay
To: All
Date Posted: 14:44:35 01/22/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-70-108-238-93.washdc.east.verizon.net at 70.108.238.93
Message:
Don't sound like the Mendes when the SLPP took power. Ernest is up to fulfilling his promise of delivering the goods to Sierra Leoneans. If "northanization" as skeptics and cynics perceived the President's stance of fulfilling his promise is the way out for Sierra Leone , then so be it. In the final analysis a blessed and developed Sierra Leone will not only benefit the north but the entire country. Detractors, politicians and loosers can say anything about the president at the end of the day the choristers of crufify him will automatically change to hossana.
Subject: Re: The Agenda Continues
From: Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 15:34:55 01/22/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 205.148.53.200
Message:
The President rightly owes nobody a job .If he wants to he could hire all his family from Makeni and his girlfreinds around the world. Based on the the nation's past history, it would be wise to have a cabinet that is relective of Sierra Leone. He does nt have to bring in any SLPP member.
We all want and will benefit from a developed Sierra Leone. Looking at Ernest Bombali Koroma's Bombali Tonkolli PortLoko tilted Govt ., I do not see any chance for improvement. I know , It is still too early to judge. May be miracles might happen.
Subject: Re: The Agenda Continues
From: kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 12:10:00 01/22/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
What Suffereing? Temne politicians and northerners benefitted under Tejan Kabba.Appointments were not as balatantly tribally based as they are under Ernest Bombali Koroma.
Subject: 'State House Baby'
From: SL
To: All
Date Posted: 03:01:29 01/22/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-143-86-143.range86-143.btcentralplus.com at 86.143.86.143
Message:
There is so much reference to the 'State House Baby'. Could someone please expand on this.
Subject: Re: 'State House Baby'
From: Alfred S. Cole
To: All
Date Posted: 03:16:09 01/22/08 ()
Email Address: alfcoles2120@hotmail.com
Entered From: c-71-197-99-190.hsd1.ca.comcast.net at 71.197.99.190
Message:
Who is the "State House Baby?" Is she fat or slim? Is she a first colour or what?
Subject: CAN SOMEBODY TELL ME WHY?
From: Paul Bangura
To: All
Date Posted: 02:27:38 01/22/08 ()
Email Address: paulbangs2004@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-71-197-99-190.hsd1.ca.comcast.net at 71.197.99.190
Message:
I have had these questions lingering in my mind for a while. Can somebody help find answers to them? The questions are:
1. WHY DO WE HAVE MORE CELLPHONES IN SIERRA LEONE AND HARDLY ANY HOME PHONES?
2. Which is more expensive, CELLPHONES OR HOME PHONES?
Subject: Re: CAN SOMEBODY TELL ME WHY?
From: POLITICAL
To: All
Date Posted: 22:29:39 01/22/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ip70-162-167-106.ph.ph.cox.net at 70.162.167.106
Message:
The simple reason is the cell phone is mobile, but land phone is not. This is the main reason.
Subject: Re: CAN SOMEBODY TELL ME WHY?
From: KKW
To: All
Date Posted: 08:27:10 01/22/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 204.50.182.249
Message:
Cell phones provide national covereage. The land lines were never great in the first place, but over the years have fallen into disrepair. It is probably too expensive to lay down landlines and the technology is becoming obsolete. Sierra Leone and Africa in general have leap-frogged the old landline technology and have embraced the use of cell phones.
Subject: SALONEMAN !BEWARE OF BASELESS ALLEGATIONS
From: Cleo Hanciles Family
To: All
Date Posted: 21:02:18 01/21/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cpe-74-66-236-237.nyc.res.rr.com at 74.66.236.237
Message:
Salone man wrote
"WE ALL KNOW THAT PEOPLE LIKE CHARLES TAYLOR(NPFL),CLEO HANCILES,FODAY SANKOH,MASKITA,A LOT OF BUKINABES,IVORIANS ETC,ETC WERE TRAINED AND ARMED BY GHADAFI,"
Saloneman!Your casting aspersions on the character of Cleo Hanciles is impish, ,irresponsible and unacceptable!
For the records,Mr Hanciles was neither a member of the RUF as you claim,nor could you or anyone assert with proof that he at anytime underwent any form of military training in Libya as you allege.
Contrary to him receiving training and arms from Ghadaffi for the purpose killing people and breaking things as you posit, Hanciles was in fact a scholar and lecturer at the Mahtaba Institute .a position he assumed after his rustication from FBC in the late eighties until his return to Sa Lone during the Kabba Regime.
Of course he was one of the founding members of PANAFU but was never known to be ideologically or otherwise associated with it's offshoot which became the feral RUF...
Matter of fact Hanciles was known to have aided and abetted the escape from Libya of well meaning Sierra Leoneans like Festus Harding and others who refused military training and challenged the philosophies of Sankoh and the RUF...
I agree that Ghadafi,Sankoh,Taylor Maskita and their confreres must burn in HELL,but sullying the name of a good man in the process is simply unacceptable��
For that,I seriously urge a retraction of your baseless allegations about Mr Hanciles in order to avert� the risk of a legal family reprisal. Lonta!
Subject: Re: SALONEMAN !BEWARE OF BASELESS ALLEGATIONS
From: Saloneman
To: All
Date Posted: 04:36:07 01/22/08 ()
Email Address: charles@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 66.23.15.6
Message:
If names that i included in my postings is similar to a member of your family it's simply a coincidence i mean no harm.The Cleo Hanciles i am talking about is not your own Cleo Hanciles.It is the Cleo Hanciles that everyone knows that was part of RUF DELEGATION that met and welcome in LIBYA the NPRC BOYS LED BY MAADA BIO.Don't forget the NPRC boys went to LIBYA secretly and started negotiating with Ghadafi for him to get Foday Sankoh out of the jungle.So your Cleo Hanciles that was a lecturer at the MAHTABA Institute may have a name similar to that of the Hanciles that was indeed a member of RUF that was trained and held a top position in the RUF admin.
Subject: Re: SALONEMAN !BEWARE OF BASELESS ALLEGATIONS
From: Cleo Hanciles Family
To: All
Date Posted: 10:39:14 01/22/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cpe-74-66-236-237.nyc.res.rr.com at 74.66.236.237
Message:
There you go again melding some truths and half truths to make your point�
I have no idea that Cleo Hanciles had served as spokesman for the RUF in Libya as you claim�However I know for a fact that none of the spokespeople or PR persons for the RUF.. ..Hanciles(as you allege),Stanley, Bakaar Sankoh ,Golley or Blyden�. underwent military training or ever carried arms during the insurgency!�.
That Maada Bio led a delegation to Libya is also half truth ��Of course other NPRC Officials like Nyuma and Mustapha who had links to PANAFU were involved in the perenial stages of the process..�But the truth is that the delegation to Libya was not led by Sierra Leoneans,..matter of fact that delegation was led by Ghanian Officials who had strong links to Ghadafi... I challenge you to crosscheck with your sources to prove otherwise!� �
I am in agreement with the inference that the peace process in fact began with the NPRC, contrary to the many claims that �it was SLPP that brought peace to Sa Lone.
My point is that this is not a movie my dear Saloneman! It is Sa Lone�s history we are talking about, therefore we must all strive to make sure that all records of Sa Lone history should be devoid of spins and fictitious accounts, that�s all!
Cleo Hanciles neither recieved military training in Libya, nor took up arms at anytime to kill people or break things in Sa Lone...and that is the fact!
Subject: Re: SALONEMAN !BEWARE OF BASELESS ALLEGATIONS
From: Creole Relative
To: All
Date Posted: 01:34:11 01/22/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-dtc-ag14.proxy.aol.com at 205.188.117.142
Message:
Where is Festus Harding? Is he in Sierra Leone?
Subject: Re: SALONEMAN !BEWARE OF BASELESS ALLEGATIONS
From: Mende Brother
To: All
Date Posted: 16:19:27 01/22/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 65.88.88.125
Message:
Go research the environs of Bo district and the Western Area where the Hanciles and Hardings are known to hail from...Maybe you will be lucky to find the answer.
Subject: Re: SALONEMAN !BEWARE OF BASELESS ALLEGATIONS
From: leather roots
To: All
Date Posted: 07:07:26 01/23/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: gate4-norfolk.nmci.navy.mil at 138.162.0.44
Message:
I say in the name of reconciliation lets move on as sierra leoneans. if we gonna get ghadaffi to face trial we goign to have to also have leather boots, and all the others that were in the ruf. and the finger pointing would never stop. we knwo ghadafi suported them. he gave them arms. but he did not tell them to kill innocent civilians. plus even if he did the best we coudl get is take him to trial in a us court if possible. i dont knwo the technicalities. and if we are able to prove it the families affected by the war might get money. that woul dnot bring back the lives of our brothers and sisters. i dont even think its possible to take him to a us court.
Subject: Cameras Captured the Koidu Holdings Killings in Sierra Leone
From: News
To: All
Date Posted: 17:47:37 01/21/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 198.231.23.240
Message:
By Theophilus Sahr Gbenda
Jan 18, 2008, 22:47
amazing photographs of the killing of Konos by Police Officers in Koidu Town. The pictures were taken by Awareness Times' Special Correspondent and Ace Journalist, Theophilus Sahr Gbenda who was live at the scene from the time the peaceful, placard-carrying demonstrators arrived, to the killings and beyond.
Subject: Black Out at stadium in Ghana
From: Town Crier
To: All
Date Posted: 13:45:48 01/21/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-71-227-57-159.hsd1.mi.comcast.net at 71.227.57.159
Message:
Africa shows off its best again.
There is currently a power outage at the stadium where the game between Mali and Benin is about to start. We've been waiting for the past 10 mins for them to restore power.
I gues it is best it is not on network television after all. :)
Subject: Re: Black Out at stadium in Ghana
From: LOW GRADE SAN SAN
To: All
Date Posted: 10:09:39 01/22/08 ()
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This is nothing to cry down Africa about.I don't know the channel you watched the game on.Because one of the annalist on British euro sport even told us that it happened before, in his days as a player. My only advise to Ghana is in future if they encounter similar problems they should ask my brother fen Plaba to send some of the koroma electricity to them LOL.
Subject: Re: Black Out at stadium in Ghana
From: Town Crier
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Date Posted: 15:58:45 01/22/08 ()
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I'm not crying down Africa, I'm merely pointing out, that at the biggest sports competion in Africa in a country that exports electricity to its neighbours Togo and Burkina Faso there can still be blackout, without no standby generators to kick in.
Power outages happen even in the so called "first world countries", but at a venue where it is critical for the operation of the business of the facility, there are always backup to the main power supply in case of emergencies.
I watched the game live over the internet via www.myp2p.eu streaming of the games on Channel 3. It is free with a download of the TV Ants media player software that is available for download on the site..
Subject: SALONE OFFICIAL WEBSITE
From: Donald Osman
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Date Posted: 12:59:02 01/21/08 ()
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Does anyone know the link to the official website for Sierra Leone? The old one is not working at all.
Subject: Re: SALONE OFFICIAL WEBSITE
From: Sylvester Johnny
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Date Posted: 19:50:59 01/21/08 ()
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Here are the links.
http://exclusivepress.net/app/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=126&Itemid=1
http://news.sl/drwebsite/publish/article_20057427.shtml
Subject: COCORIOKO EDITOR NEEDS HELP!
From: Dauda Kamara
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Date Posted: 11:31:36 01/21/08 ()
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When i read the article on cocorioko about the Libyan gifts, i almost throw up. I was planing to write a rebutal to post it on this forum and make it available to other media houses back home. But some of the brothers have already done that. I thank them all for their efforts to resist fake media propaganda.
What a shame! Did this editor really cares or know whom are reading his online news paper? Is he a mentally healthy person? Don't get me wrong people. I doubt it. Because i cannot expect any normal person; calling himself a proffessional and an independent journalist to be so ignorant and naiive enough to past such an article on the world wide web, only for his fellow country men and women in both back home and in the diaspora to read it. Does he think that we are all ignorant about recent history? Don't we have relatives or families back home to cross check information with them? Because he thinks we don't have access to the internent to investigate whats' going on in back home. Or may be he thought we are all just too stupid to believe anyhting he past on this his politically affiliated news paper?
This editor needs to decide, to either become a full APC politician, or to be an honest, non bias, independent and an investigative journalist.
If this so called editor cannot afford to do non of the above; that means that he really needs a help. And one of such help is to advice him to either properly adjust himself according standard level, or quit journalism at once. Those whom are close to him can also help him do some proper training on ethical journalism. So lets help our brother before he get out of control. However, let me honestly say this beofre i go: HE ALWAYS REMINDS ME ABOUT BILL O'RIELLY OF FOX NEWS, WHO WANT HIS GUESTS AND AUDIENCE TO BELIVE THAT EVERYTHING ABOUT THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION IS RIGHT.
Subject: Re: COCORIOKO EDITOR NEEDS HELP!
From: concern
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Date Posted: 08:31:07 01/22/08 ()
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Your statement is irresponsible and fall short from any attention. It is the trait of lowly Sierra leone people like you, who despite your long days in the civilised world, you hardly pick good manners.
Many forumintes knew about Ghaddafi's gift when he visited the country. There was nothing about Kabbah received gifts from Libya and money has been used to set up NASSIT prior to his visit.
Now a new President came and told his people that he received gift from Libya. I remember Pa Shaki said on the radio that because he reciveed a suit from Sayenu, does not mean that he had to hang it on cotoon tree to tell everyone that he has got it?
Now we ar in a new era,and Cocorioko thought it good to publish the story of Libya's gift. The story in itself is news worthy. there has never been a time when a President in Sierra leone announced that a particular country gave gifts.
Criticisms are bound to occur, but when it is done with contempt, then you stand to be mimicked and cast aside as an insolvent.
Now, do what a serious and honest person does, that is to apologise to the Reverend and turn the page of your bitterness.
Subject: Re: COCORIOKO EDITOR NEEDS HELP!
From: Fen Plaba!
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Date Posted: 15:49:46 01/22/08 ()
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Could not have said it better myself. This unnecessary abuse of Kabs by some folks on this forum is really disheartening.
Subject: Re: COCORIOKO EDITOR NEEDS HELP!
From: Erica Adams
To: All
Date Posted: 21:37:42 01/21/08 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
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I love the big talk when it comes to a fellow African but which leader from the US or England has every been tried or sentenced for the suffering caused to millions throughout Africa, Europe, the Americas, and the Carribean? These two countries had more to do with the slave trade than probably all the others combined but I have never heard of Sierra Leone turning down a gift from either. What about the way the British helped partion Sierra Leone as well as other countries in Africa? Yet Sierra Leoneans are still holding on to the practices of their colonial rulers by wearing those ridiculous wigs under that blazing sun and refering to the mayor as His Worship, and the president as His Excellency like you have a monarchy. I'm not defending Ghadaffi, but if you're going to be self righteous do it with all that have exploited, offended, abused, taken advantage of, and helped to create suffering in the country.
Subject: Re: COCORIOKO EDITOR NEEDS HELP!
From: MR SIERRA LEONE
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Date Posted: 23:33:45 01/21/08 ()
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Hmm... I must confess, I don't understand how our media keep bestowing all these titles to Idiots that still have not proving themselves even after forty something years of self rule to be neither Honorable, Excellent, nor be Worshiped. The blame sits squarely on the Media on this one. I mean praise when praise is due, but this thing about titles, is a Media fixation that must be shed .
Can someone tell me what is wrong with � MR President, MR Minister or MR Mayor and still show due respect?
Subject: Re: COCORIOKO EDITOR NEEDS HELP!
From: Correct Your English
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Date Posted: 13:55:45 01/21/08 ()
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"When i read the article on cocorioko about the Libyan gifts, i almost throw up"------Leonean.
No, my brother, what made you retch, and the greater tragedy, is your third grade English. If uou are going to savage people as brazenly as you are doing, at least launder and sanitize your damned English. People all over the world do read stuff on the web, you know.
Subject: Re: COCORIOKO EDITOR NEEDS HELP!
From: nico
To: All
Date Posted: 03:12:55 01/22/08 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
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"If uou are going to savage people as brazenly as you are doing, at least launder and sanitize your damned English. People all over the world do read stuff on the web, you know."
Please correct your spelling first. Is spelling not part of English literacy?
Subject: Re: COCORIOKO EDITOR NEEDS HELP!
From: Guinean
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Date Posted: 15:53:33 01/22/08 ()
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Bra Nico, you got me there. In my zeal to slam Kabs' tormentor, I misspelled YOU as UOU. Thank you boss.
Subject: Re: COCORIOKO EDITOR NEEDS HELP!
From: nico
To: All
Date Posted: 07:44:20 01/23/08 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
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GIN
I was only reminding you, no one would think you do not know the correct spelling of you. I am bad and careless about spellings, but most of the time it can be due key board error as well. So do not be bothered.
Regards
Subject: Re: COCORIOKO EDITOR NEEDS HELP!
From: Guinean
To: All
Date Posted: 13:46:11 01/21/08 ()
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U nar nonsense porsin. U really need professional help.
Unu nor dae tire for fit-yie unu big one dem? Blow pa Kabs ya. The real propagandist here is you and your SLPP backward thinkers who sold the country to all the criminal mafias in the world, as demonstrated by the exploitative mining contracts. By the way, Gaddafi has done more for Salone than Tejan Kabba and all the SLPP John Bulls. At least Gadaffi gave us rice. Your SLPP heroes just stole all the money from the banks and spent it on cradle-robbed girlfriends and luxury mansions in tony Western suburbs.
What the hell do you SLPP slimy toads want?
Light cam, unu grumble.
EBK fet corruption, unu pissabade.
Den fire tiffman. unu hala bot tribalism.
Ay Bo! What do U want us to do?
Unu lef we ya!
Subject: Re: COCORIOKO EDITOR NEEDS HELP!
From: Neneh
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Date Posted: 12:46:51 01/21/08 ()
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Dauda Kamara.
Thank you for your great analogy(O'Reilly Factor). Thanks goodness for intelligent people home and abroad who can distinguish between fact and fiction. The spin doctoring is getting out of control and is high time this medium land back on planet reality.
Subject: Re: COCORIOKO EDITOR NEEDS HELP!
From: Trurh hurts
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Date Posted: 12:51:43 01/21/08 ()
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I have never read a more precise commentary about how our piir people back home were robbed blind by Kabbah and the SLPP. GOD BLESS KABS kANU FOR BRINGING US THE TRUTH.
Subject: Re: COCORIOKO EDITOR NEEDS HELP!
From: Psychiatrist
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Date Posted: 12:45:51 01/21/08 ()
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I will be surprised if Kabs Kanu brings himself to your low level of thinking and bad expression of the English Language to respond to you. You did not show any cause why the Editor needs help, hence it is you that needs help.
What Kanu wrote is true. SLPP withheld the gifts given to the Sierra Leone people by Gaddafi. Show us any newspaper report where President Kabbah informed us about the gifts from Libya.Show us any report where we were told how the gift was used. We only learnt about the gift after Gaddafi exposed Kabbah. If that is not thieving, you tell me what it is.
John Leigh is a deceitful man and his explanation only showed how he and Kabbah and the SLPP cabal of thieves have been deceiving the very people you are misrepresenting in your post.
Everybody knows that SLPP stole the Libyan gifts , so who are you talking for ? nOT THE PEOPLE WHO KNEW IT ALL AND RESPONDED BY NOT VOTING FOR slpp.
Subject: Re: COCORIOKO EDITOR NEEDS HELP!
From: JOHN E. LEIGH
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Date Posted: 13:51:32 01/21/08 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Dear Psychiatrist:
"We only learnt about the gift after Gaddafi exposed Kabbah."
Please note that Ghaddafi never exposed Kabbah at any time. Ghaddafi spoke in Arabic at the National stadium towards end of June 2007. It was Kabbah who interpreted Ghaddafi's speech into English/Krio.
The words our people understood came from Kabbah's own mouth. If he was guilty as you claimed, he could easily have avoided a truthful translation of Ghaddafi's words and would have gotten away with it.
Your claim that I am a deceitful man is not true and please note that I have never joined Kabbah or any other individual in deceiving our people.
Frankly, our real problem should not be about lowly, rubbish shipments of rice gifts from Libya. Our focus should be how best may we go about getting someone like Ghaddafi to respect us so that the RUF war of plunder never recurrs. Thank you. - JL
Subject: Re: COCORIOKO EDITOR NEEDS HELP!
From: Concern
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Date Posted: 08:16:34 01/22/08 ()
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John Leigh, Ghaddaffi action to help insurgency was at a time when the cold war era was around and there was massive corruption and disechantment in many African countries about people's standard of living.
sierra leone, as you have said on any occasions was ripped pant down and povert pervades.
Why did University dons and their likes moved to Libya to engage in militarism considering the fact, that University education encompasses sound judgement and the ability to be tacktful and discreet.
Our guys took the opportunity to eat from Ghaddaffi's table and planned their revolutionry activity based on Pan Africanism.
The bottom line is that Ghaddafi reacted to the request of Sierra Leonean dissidents who wanted to change their country through the barrel of the gun.
The war machine took many years to knock at Sierra Leone's door. if our people had stood strongly against the rebel infiltration despite the ,ilitary was ill-equipped, there would have been the end of the war long,long time ago.
The time we stop to distort the truth, then we can find out that politics played a big role in the civil war.
Frustrated and mean people took the war to anel level and blindly, you are heaping blame on ghaddafi when we are the same people who were butchering and aputating each other. the diamonds were dug by Sierra Leoneans and the people with strong connections toook it over the border. The war was a s a result of our intense desire to hate, jealous and betray others. It was about this party is taking our wealth. Our region has many good thing, but the party of the day is taking everything.
Sadly, John Leigh, there are certain misguided peope who always believe that when they lose power, they must do deviously to take it back. i am not pointing a finger at you. But what I know, is that the SLPP is good at creating lies and anarchy when it is not in control. the cheap propaganda narrowed in the SLPP paid media relates the omen SLPP wants for Sierra leone.
As I said, rather than poiting finger at Ghaddaffi, you must keep in mind that there are more to the civil war than Ghaddafi helping pqan African fighters.
Subject: Re: COCORIOKO EDITOR NEEDS HELP!
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 16:07:29 01/22/08 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Dear Concern:
You've posited as follows:
"...... rather than pointing fingers at Ghaddaffi, you must keep in mind that there are more to the civil war than Ghaddafi helping pqan African fighters."
I agree with you as per your statement above that there was more to our war than Ghadafi. I have always been aware that there were sub-plots and personal objectives, etc. affecting the violence.
However, the mere fact that there were others besides Ghadafi or there is more to our war than Ghadafi does not absolve Ghadafi and Libya of Ghadafi's own specific dastardly role of purposefully exporting violence to our country to initiate carnage and mayhem there via the training, equipping, funding and dispatching of violent rebels to SL and to thereafter continue to provide them with leadership nurturing, arms and indirect diplomatic cover through Taylor over several years - amidst unspeakable suffering.
Here, we are talking about a bad man whom the Special Court Prosecutor has officially and publicly named as a co-conspirator to defendant Charles Taylor, a notorious despot who stands accused today of war crimes and crimes against humanity against our people before the said court in The Hague.
Naming Ghadafi as a co-conspirator or as Taylor's partner in heinous war crimes and crimes against humanity in our suffering country is not without huge significance for our country's future and for peace in our region. This co-conspirator tag is not for nothing!
Pointing fingers at Ghadafi for his own specific dastardly role in Sierra Leone's destruction and suffering is, therefore, completely appropo under all the circumstances. Sincerely - JL
Subject: Re: COCORIOKO EDITOR NEEDS HELP!
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 16:00:32 01/21/08 ()
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"Your claim that I am a deceitful man is not true and please note that I have never joined Kabbah or any other individual in deceiving our people."
Were you not part of Kabba's goverment?
I understand that you once served under his government as Embassador. What was fruitful contribution during your service? in terms of helping uplift your country as other Embassadors do for their countries, for example, influencing foreign investments.
Subject: Re: COCORIOKO EDITOR NEEDS HELP!
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 18:21:00 01/21/08 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Dear Mr. Eddie Grant:
May I respectfully direct your attention to my website for the answers you seek as follows:
www.changesierraleone.org
Thank you. JL
Subject: Re: COCORIOKO EDITOR NEEDS HELP!
From: Leonean
To: All
Date Posted: 13:01:38 01/21/08 ()
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Man, do you guys really think before attacking others? If Ghaddafi gives 4 tractors, 400 bags of rice, and 200 bags of flour to Sierra leone should that really be headline news?
While you see that as newsworthy, some of us see it as an insult. The bible said, man does not live by bread alone. There are some gifts we should honorably decline.
Subject: Re: COCORIOKO EDITOR NEEDS HELP!
From: Fullahman
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Date Posted: 17:36:55 01/22/08 ()
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Absolute continuation of the nonsense Leonean supports in this forum. Talk about the gifts your cronies misused in the name of greed. It is not an attack, but the truth.
Subject: Re: COCORIOKO EDITOR NEEDS HELP!
From: Guinean
To: All
Date Posted: 13:30:41 01/21/08 ()
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Nar way U cham bulgor.
We will decline Gadaffi's gifts when you and your bad hart SLPP tiff fambuls apologise for the Gadaffi rice u sold to Ghana.
Subject: Re: COCORIOKO EDITOR NEEDS HELP!
From: Town Crier
To: All
Date Posted: 14:49:10 01/21/08 ()
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You mean the rice that now President Ernest Koroma helped sell, and then kept quiet about his involvement and the fact that the people were notified when the rice was received and disbursed for sale.
You should focus on getting him to declare his assets that he came into office with rather than worry about the rice he sold with Tejan Kabbah
Subject: Re: COCORIOKO EDITOR NEEDS HELP!
From: Guinean
To: All
Date Posted: 15:36:51 01/21/08 ()
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Town Crier, I will personally ring the bell for EBK to declare his assets after you join me in pressuring your SLPP buddies to cough up the hundreds of millions of dollars they swindled from the people. The ridiculous stealing by the SLPP is nothing short of suicide bombing. Unless the SLPP apologizes and returns the money to Sierra Leoneans, they should be put on the list of economic terrorist organizations.
Subject: Re: COCORIOKO EDITOR NEEDS HELP!
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 20:38:05 01/22/08 ()
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Concerned, Edie Grant, Ambassador Leigh, ladies and gentlemen thank you for your inputs. My first reaction after I read through all the posts is: there is still anger in Sierra Leone that needs to be manned by this government and patriotic Sierra Leoneans to ensure an honest co-existence that will be fruitful. Politics and membership to political organisations in my view, are means to ensure a form of checks and balances, curtailing the possibility for an overwhelming power usurpation by governments, to enable them work for the people, knowing that at the end of their term the people will speak vigorously by way of the ballot box. However, even before the attainment of independence, Sierra Leoneans have seen politics as means for revenge, avenue for wealth and fame and an umbrella for mischievous undertakings and self-empowerment. How can there be peace when there is not equality in the share of resources? How can there be co-operation when some think they own the seat of power and that all others are their subjects who must not exercise their constitutional rights over issues affecting them?
This tradition of seeing politics as that umbrella for self-empowerment over the rights of other compatriots has made many Sierra Leoneans agitated against a slight mention of truth against a political party they join with the hope and assurance will seek their interests over the interest of other nationals. This is the anger that brought about the war, it is the anger that has resulted in many angers orchestrated here over the years.
I as a Sierra Leonean living abroad can attest to the fact that all these bitter arguments are not about helping young Sierra Leoneans grow to reach higher heights no matter how determined they are. These arguments are not about improving healthcare in Sierra Leone, they are not about improving the standards of education in Sierra Leone, they are not about improving the living standards of our people because there would have been no argument about light that we have been denied for years, as a contributor intimated. They are sure not about whether or not the sitting president succeeds nor the ousted govern reclaim their image but they are about our individual egos, an effort to show our opponents whom we refer to as enemies, �what we are made of or finding ways we can defame them. Psychologically, there are certain jargons, when constantly used, are believed and used.
The question about Col. Kaddafi giving gifts to Sierra Leone, big though an issue, must not consume our time as it is. In my January 20, 2008 at 21:54:33 response to True-say-talk-me and Ambassador John E. Leigh, the latter whose response I just saw after I started the very line I am writing, which I will respond to in due time after I take a look at his required reading, I specifically stated that, �the reason I am cautious is because we do not have any substantial proof nor has any of our governments, not the S.L.P.P. nor the A.P.C. ever made any allegations that Col. Muamar Qaddafi had any dealings with the rebels in a way of support, direct or indirect.
I read and listened to foreign diplomats but never read nor hear any allegations of any kind, regarding the allegation people are making here, in the strongest term, that Col. Muamar Gaddafi is buying us "for the role he played in aiding and abating the rebels in our war, which is why he is making these donations to us. The American Presidents nor members of Congress made no such pronouncement of Qaddafi's involvement in our war. The FBI named few people they suspected to might have been dealing with Al Qadda and even denied them passports or any immunity for travel to the U.S.
The British Prime Minister, Tony Blair nor any member of the British Parliament made no such allegations. Therefore, if not even an allegation was made, it will be foolhardy to find substantial evidence to purport what? Yes, there were rumors but are we that naive to take Sierra Leonean rumors for granted to ingrainedly make such stern accusations? I hope not.�
I continued stating that:
�In which case, I will feel free, at this juncture, to advice you to look at it from the standpoint that no allegation was ever levied against Col. Qaddafi by any investigation unit in Sierra Leone, by the International Criminal Court, nor any world leader but few Sierra Leonean ordinary people who have no means of getting information on what transpired in Libya by the Libyan leader. We did not get any information about his involvement from the testimonials from the government, the oppositions, the rebels, the CDF nor any indites including Charles Taylor in their Truth and Reconciliation Committee testimonies. Therefore, we must lay it to rest and focus on healing our nation.�
It is this position I would hope we would all be considerate of so as not to tarnish Col. Gaddafi�s image if he is innocent, being that we do not have any substantial evidence to purport the claims.
If we are concerned about our country, we have to hold all Journalists responsible to give us information that is vital to nation-building in a responsible fashion that will earn them respect amongst their peers and governments internationally. It will help shape honesty and integrity of countrymen thereby, helping to curb the many corruption that we read about. Because who is the pot calling the kettle black? How I could I personally listen to or look-up to some dishonest Journalist to feed me with any honesty haven followed them for years and knowing that they do not have a speck of honesty in their blood? I would be hesitant to be frank with you But if they change, Sierra Leone will definitely change. The change starts with us so let us embark on such an endeavor to be able to change Sierra Leone�s Journalism, Sierra Leone�s politics thereby, changing the tradition of politics has been practiced in Sierra Leone for years. Otherwise, the anger that I see here will not breed good fruit for Sierra Leone. I hope we remember our sad past to serve as a lesson for a brighter future.
Subject: Re: COCORIOKO EDITOR NEEDS HELP!
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 00:25:55 01/23/08 ()
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As a chartered member of the Bambay Lans Kamara Fan Club, you do me proud by your erudite analysis of the situation. Instead of pointing fingers at Gaddafi and others, we should honestly assess the mess we are in today and understand that it is our collective failing as a country.
People like Maskita, Foday Sankoh, Charles Taylor etc invaded and devastated our country because our politicians, with our cowardly cheerleading, screwed up the country so thoroughly that ravaging SLeone was merely a cakewalk for those marauders.
We Sierra Leoneans are to blame for the mess we are in. Let's accept that and resolve that NEVER AGAIN will the rebel mess happen in our country again.
Sue Gaddafi? Puleeze!
When someone farts in the parlor, please don't point the finger and declare "Nar Arab man fart dis. Nar Gaddafi don fart pa we so!". Ridiculous!
Subject: DECLARATION OF ASSETS
From: Sylvester Johnny
To: All
Date Posted: 11:30:26 01/21/08 ()
Email Address: syljohnny@hotmail.com
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Concerned Sierra Leoneans are still waiting for EBK and his government to declare their assets. Does anyone know when this is going to happen?
Subject: Re: DECLARATION OF ASSETS
From: special morgan
To: All
Date Posted: 01:32:24 01/22/08 ()
Email Address: johnsonpin@yahoo.com
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Nobody knowns when the president and his cabinet ministers wants to declare their assets.
Subject: Re: DECLARATION OF ASSETS
From: Freetownean
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Date Posted: 14:13:25 01/21/08 ()
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After his trip abroad by then there would be a hefty bank balance.
Subject: Re: DECLARATION OF ASSETS
From: Sylvester Johnny
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Date Posted: 19:48:54 01/21/08 ()
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Freetownean,
I have so much to do that I do not have time to respond to you. You may want to refer to the following articles.
http://exclusivepress.net/app/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=126&Itemid=1
http://news.sl/drwebsite/publish/article_20057427.shtml
Subject: Re: DECLARATION OF ASSETS
From: Guinean
To: All
Date Posted: 14:10:17 01/21/08 ()
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Message:
Sylvester how ba U nor get other tin for tok bot? EBK will declare his assets only after you devious SLPPers acknowledge, congratulate and salute President Dr Koroma for the electricity he has brought to Sierra Leone. Also you diasporan SLPPers should apologise to all Sierra Leoneans for acting as cheer-leaders as the SLPP systematically raped the country. Also apologise for instigating and sponsoring the RUF at the initial stages. You think the invasion of the RUF through Kailahun was a mistake? Go drink milkshake ya!
Subject: Re: DECLARATION OF ASSETS
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 13:33:07 01/21/08 ()
Email Address:
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When there's a proper mechanism set in place for accountability and dispensation of justice.
My brother if you really love your country so much, dedicate some of your time to follow unfolding events in that country, something we were unable to experience during the SLPP government.
Few weeks ago, one of the news outlets in Sierra Leone reported that the President is ready and willing to declare his asset and so are other members of his government, but that would only be done in the most appropriate way. That is, when a system is put in place which will ensure true and honest disclosure of assets and one which will ensure that no one will fall victim of miscarriage of justice. After all, when there's a reliable and authentic system in place to deal with such things, then there's guarantee that anyone found to be culpable of any wrong doing would justifiably be penalised.
Subject: Re: DECLARATION OF ASSETS
From: Salone Police
To: All
Date Posted: 17:56:29 01/21/08 ()
Email Address: salonepolice@hotmail.com
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Message:
But if the President knew all this while that there is no mechanism in place, why could he make the setting up of such a mechanism a priority parallel with his deadline for providing some electricity in Freetown?
Are you sure fighting corruption is the president's priority? What are the indication? What has he done so far? Has any committee been set up? Any draft legislation? Any thing?
Subject: Re: DECLARATION OF ASSETS
From: ITK
To: All
Date Posted: 14:47:16 01/21/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
You guys are seriously funny. I really don't need to stay up late for Leno anymore. Keep up the spin. You may actually start to believe what you write.
Subject: Re: DECLARATION OF ASSETS
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 16:04:25 01/21/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
I don't understand your point. Can you make it more sensible.
Subject: Re: DECLARATION OF ASSETS
From: ITK
To: All
Date Posted: 12:57:03 01/23/08 ()
Email Address:
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I'm not sure I can help you on this one. You can interpret it any way that works for you.
Subject: Re: DECLARATION OF ASSETS
From: Sierra Leonean
To: All
Date Posted: 14:24:12 01/21/08 ()
Email Address:
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Are they waiting to transfer public funds into their personal accounts prior to their decalration? EBK's promise to declare his assets was not made subject to the 'most appropriate way' so why now?
Subject: Re: DECLARATION OF ASSETS
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 14:47:23 01/21/08 ()
Email Address:
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My brother, I;m as enthusiastic you are about declaration of asset. But if you're going to nail people for their bad deeds, it has to be in the right way. So let's be patient.
Subject: Re: DECLARATION OF ASSETS
From: kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 18:20:10 01/21/08 ()
Email Address:
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Koroma is supposed to be an efficient busineesman.What does it take to declare his assets with all the modern technology around.If he takes so long to declare assets, how can he run Sierra Leone.
This delay in declaring assets makes APC suspect. Are APC trying to accumulate wealth and then declare assets?
Subject: Re: DECLARATION OF ASSETS
From: Guinean
To: All
Date Posted: 14:32:22 01/21/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Very funny. Just because your kith and kin in the SLPP stole Wutehteh, does not mean every Sierra Leonean is a thief. Kabba nar tiffman
Benjamin nar tiffman.
Berewa nar tiff man.
JJ blood nar tiff man.
Mammy queen nar tiff man.
Ernest Nor To tiff man, ya!
SLPP dae tiff en lie.
When is SLPP going to declare all the money they robbed from the treasury?
Subject: Re: DECLARATION OF ASSETS
From: Alfred S. Cole
To: All
Date Posted: 03:12:53 01/22/08 ()
Email Address: alfcoles2120@hotmail.com
Entered From: c-71-197-99-190.hsd1.ca.comcast.net at 71.197.99.190
Message:
It will be appreciated if you can leave my uncle out of this tiff man tok. When my uncle came to the country in 1996, he had come to "rest" when you people thought that he could be the most fitting man to be employed in the highest office in the country and you gave him the Palm Tree to carry.
In office, he made sure that he hated his soldiers, allowed his Ministers and other offcials to take whatever came their way, appointed a Kamajor go to Liberia as an ambassador, employed another ex-combatant to the Ministry of Finance and another to NRA.
While in office, his Ministers operated overseas accounts and had their children going to school outside Sierra Leone. He gave away our diamonds to Koidu Holdings who are killing the youths of Koidu and the Rutile to the world's most renown Mafia, Jean-Raymond Boulle (people need to know this Mafia guy who has hands in overthrowing governments in Africa).
He was the first and only president who referred to his Army as rag-tagged boys and disbanded them only to swallow his words when push kam pan shurb. It was during his tenure that a diamond became an ordinary stone after four or five days. He it was who invested in another country while the youths in his country went without jobs. When his ivestment in Conakry was disclosed by Paul Kamara, he ordered his arrest and detention in the Pademba Road prisons. Has he surrendered what he owes the country? I hope he does.
Subject: Re: DECLARATION OF ASSETS
From: Guinean
To: All
Date Posted: 16:03:30 01/22/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Hehehehehehehe!
Alfred U have a wicked, devillish sense of humour. I just like the gleefulness with which U chopped down the corrupt SLPP icon from his green, alaki pedestal.
Subject: Re: DECLARATION OF ASSETS
From: Alfred S. Cole
To: All
Date Posted: 22:53:44 01/22/08 ()
Email Address: alfcoles2120@hotmail.com
Entered From: c-71-197-99-190.hsd1.ca.comcast.net at 71.197.99.190
Message:
I am not being wicked or humourous. I want that guy to be arrested. He has been responsible for so many painful things we are going through in the country. He unleashed terror in the name of the return of democracy. He single-handedly needs to refund all those millions that were stollen by his ministers. He is an accomplise so can be equally reponsible. All these stealings happened beacuse of his ineptitude. This guy who had come to rest became the president whose background was not thoroughly checked when we jumped on the streets, ran to the polling stations and voted in an election James Jonah rigged for his UN colleague. He deserves to answer questions from the people of this country and be sent to Pademba Road prisons for the troubles he caused the country.
Subject: COCORIOKO EDITOR NEEDS HELP!
From: Dauda Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 11:26:32 01/21/08 ()
Email Address:
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When i read the article on cocorioko about the Libyan gifts, i almost throw up. I was planing to write a rebutal to post it on this forum and make it available to other media houses back home. But some of the brothers have already done that. I thank them all for their efforts to resist fake media propaganda.
What a shame! Did this editor really cares or know whom are reading his online news paper? Is he a mentally healthy person? Don't get me wrong people. I doubt it. Because i cannot expect any normal perso; calling himself a proffessional and an independent journalist to be so ignorant and naiive enough to past such an article on the world wide web, only for his fellow country men and women in both back home and in the diaspora to read it. Does he think that we are all ignorant about recent history? Don't we have relatives or families back home to cross check information with them? Because he thinks we don't have access to the internent to investigate whats' going on in back home. Or may be he thought we are all just too stupid to believe anyhting he past on this his politically affiliated news paper?
This editor needs to decide, to either become a full APC politicians, or to be a honest, non bias, independent and an investigative journalist.
If this so called editor cannot afford to do non of the above; that means that he really needs a help. And one of such help is to advice him to either properly adjust himself according standard level, or quit journalism at once. Those whom are close to him can also help him do some proper training on ethical journalism. So lets help our brother before he get out of control. However, let me honestly say this beofre i go: HE ALWAYS REMINDS ME ABOUT BILL O'RIELLY OF FOX NEWS, WHO WANT HIS GUESTS AND AUDIENCE TO BELIVE THAT EVERYTHING ABOUT THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION IS RIGHT.
Subject: Re: COCORIOKO EDITOR NEEDS HELP!
From: madsan
To: All
Date Posted: 12:11:44 01/21/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Please proof read prior to posting.
Subject: WHEN WILL ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA CHANGE FOR THE GOOD OF SA LONE
From: Brabanxx
To: All
Date Posted: 11:03:36 01/21/08 ()
Email Address: Brabanxx@aol.com
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Message:
Alpha:
You have come to this forum many times and distorted the facts surrounding certain events. This you have done because of your dislike for some APC stalwarts in particular and the APC party in general. Let me correct some of the facts that you have misrepresented.
i. The president never indicated that Mr. Mansaray should be nominated to be deputy bank governor - that was a creation of your own imagination.
ii. When Mr. Conteh met you at the door on Saturday night, whatever happened was in jest. You however did not report about the pin that was given to you as a guesture from the APC that we are all Sierra Leoneans and we will welcome your membership in the APC.
iii. Mr. Mansaray was at the party in ample time; well before even some family members. Before the start of the programme Mr. Mansaray was asked by the Chairman of the APC Maryland branch to pick up the chairlady of the fundraising group. That was the reason why he was not present when the programme started officially. Your characterisation of the events were skewed to fit your propagandist agenda.
Subject: WHEN WILL THE APC CHANGE FOR THE GOOD FOR OUR COUNTRY?
From: ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA
To: All
Date Posted: 09:21:25 01/21/08 ()
Email Address: SAIDUBANGSO@AOL.COM
Entered From: c-69-140-129-75.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.140.129.75
Message:
On Sat.01-19-08, I was invited by the family of my elder brother and friend Hon.Alieu Pat-Sowe, to his 60th birthday celebrations in Maryland.
When I entered the party hall, I was attacked at the door by the chairman of the APC in the north America region, Mr.Osman Conteh. He said to me that I should not attend the party because I am a member of the SLPP. I was not mad nor surprised because I know that only members of the APC will not understand the following things:
(1)The difference between a birthday party organized
the Pat-Sowe family and a function organized by
APC party.
(2)Regardless of what political party I support
I have the right to attend any function/ceremony
to which I am invited.
(3)Being a member of the SLPP does not disqualify
me from associating myself with members of the
APC.
The uncivilized action of chairman Osman Conteh at that birthday party was funny to me because during the campaign President Ernest Koroma assured the people of Sierra Leone that his new APC has been changed to the party of inclusion.
I am happy that senior officials of the APC are behaving in this manner because they are proving
my point that the APC will never bring any positive change to our country.
It is also very interesting to point out that Mr.Foday Mansaray(the national chairman of the APC, North America, chairman of the editorial board of Cocorioko and president Koroma's pick for the sensitive position of deputy bank governor)came to the party two hours late. An item was skipped on the programme only to accommodate him.
This is a clear manifestation of the highest form of indiscipline. It is a shame to see that,"COMING LATE" will be the only thing Foday Mansaray wants to take to the bank of Sierra Leone. Instead of coming to work at 8am, he will be coming at 10am. I am sure he will very happy if his junior officers copy his example.
Again, I am not surprised because I know that the APC will never offer our country the most suitable state actors.
Nothing will never change for the good of Sierra Leone
under the APC RULE. It will always be the same old, same old APC.
Subject: Re: WHEN WILL THE APC CHANGE FOR THE GOOD FOR OUR COUNTRY?
From: Guinean
To: All
Date Posted: 14:26:16 01/21/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
I am so sorry that you were denied the opportunity to feed your face Wutehteh. Please don't cry. Those APC chaps are really mean. Imagine them preventing a known liar and a pest from licking his plate clean? Sorry yah Karrmorkoh!
Subject: Re: WHEN WILL THE APC CHANGE FOR THE GOOD FOR OUR COUNTRY?
From: Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 12:09:58 01/21/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Unfortunately, these are the same fanatics that want to run Sierra Leone (to the ground). They want to grab the nations resources for the Bombali, Tonkolili ,Port Loko Axis. They do not know any better, they are only copying Ernest Koroma's actions in Sierra Leone
Subject: Re: WHEN WILL THE APC CHANGE FOR THE GOOD FOR OUR COUNTRY?
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 13:49:09 01/21/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
"Bombali, Tonkolili ,Port Loko Axis"
The APC government during its tenure of office, will construct the Kenema - Koindu highway.
There are several other projects approved by the APC government Southeast axis.
The "Bombali, Tonkolili ,Port Loko Axis" will bring important developments that were refused to this areas by the SLPP.
Subject: Re: WHEN WILL THE APC CHANGE FOR THE GOOD FOR OUR COUNTRY?
From: kAMARA
To: All
Date Posted: 18:09:39 01/21/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
I hope the Bombali, Tonkolili, Port Loko Axis does not bring development to other parts of Sierra Leone the way it brought electricity to Freetown. Electricity in Freetown is just smoke and mirrors. Inexperienced Ernest makes promises he cannot keep, trying to play oneupmanship on SLPP. The elections are over, SLPP lost. Just deliver and people will praise APC.By the way, What is APC going to do with Yenga.
Subject: Re: WHEN WILL THE APC CHANGE FOR THE GOOD FOR OUR COUNTRY?
From: Uneducated
To: All
Date Posted: 10:21:34 01/21/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
How apalling.But the host should have said something!!!
Subject: Libya Rice Clarification
From: A Sierra Leonean
To: All
Date Posted: 06:08:50 01/21/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Posted by John E. Leigh on January 20, 2008 at 13:32:58:
In Reply to: KABS, PLEASE SAVE SALONEANS, NOT THE SLPP, THE SHAME!!! posted by KING LOGGY on January 20, 2008 at 02:28:55:
Your Majesty KING LOGGY:
You are partially wrong in stating that:
"Unlike the failure of the dethroned SLPP government to tell the Sierra Leonean people about gifts from Libya, President Koroma on Tuesday indicated that Libya had given Sierra Leone 4 tractors, 400 bags of rice, and 200 bags of flour."
What is incorrect in your statement is that part that reported that the SLPP Government (of Tejan Kabbah) did not tell the people of Sierra Leone about Libyan gifts. For your information, President Kabbah did tell the people of Sierra Leone on radio, TV and in a press conference about of all Libyan gifts including rice, buses, etc. to our country.
Further, President Kabbah's statements re Libyan gifts were published in his State House website.
I am aware that Libya gave SL two ship loads of rice.
The said rice was properly and publicly announced and distributed at concessionary prices by the Ministry of Development to traders in all maintown markets nationwide as well as to individual buyers, including the then Opposition Leader now President, HE Ernest Koroma, who is reported as having purchased 1,000 bags at the time.
The funds collected from the rice sales were then used by the dethroned SLPP government to provide the capital funds for NASSIT - the old age insurance agency Kabbah set up. Further, Mr. Koroma, then an MP, was Chair of the Parliamentary Committee that had oversight of NASSIT. So he has the facts about Libyan rice gifts as well as the source of NASSIT's capitalization.
In 2006, Libya gave gifts of buses, etc. to our country. I was in Freetown when the news became public from official sources on radio, TV and the print media. Those buses now ply the routes from Targrin to beyond Conakry-Dee in Mahera Chiefdom and from Freetown to Makeni, Bo, Kenema and Kono.
The news about these gifts are all in the public domain.
Lastly and far more important, is that the significance about the attitude behind the Libyan gifts has been missed by many people impressed with petti-pat gifts like those of our forebears who sold their own people into slavery for consumables such as rum, tobacco, looking glass, gun powder (to catch more people for sale for rum), etc.
Who is Ghadafi to think he can pay us off with cocoa & ehbeh gifts notorious for their pettiness and meagerness?
Here is a man who used the resources of his country to export terrorism to our country over several years, thus ruining our people. He is the man who put Foday Sankoh, Sam Bockaries, Charles Taylor and Blaise Campoare in business and who trained and armed many other RUF commanders who led the massive slaughter of Sierra Leoneans - not to mention the theft and/or massive destruction of their property and country.
In 2000, Western Intelligence sources told me, that in 1999 alone six millions carats of diamonds mostly from Sierra Leone reached Antwerp via Monrovia (60%) and Wagadugu (40%), no doubt with the help of weapons, advice and nuturing provided by Libya.
Now, how much are six million carats of gemstones worth? How about the force labor used to mine those stones? How about the killings, maimings, rapings, arson, etc. that the terrorism produced?
In fact, Ghadafi was so involved in formenting and managing our so-called civil war that he was named as defendant Charles Taylor's unindicted co-conspirator for war crimes and crimes against humanity by the Special Court Prosecutor.
Yet we are taking coca ehbeh from him!
Ghadafi owes our people a deal more than mere bags of rice and flour, buses and tractors and other rubbish gifts. Too bad our former prez didn't care for my recommendations that some nations supported. Regards. JL
Subject: Re: Libya Rice Clarification
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 16:35:54 01/21/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Some people are very good at manufacturing stories that are not true but would seem appealing to those who lack the knowledge what's going on.
Sierra Leoneans are very poor but have one unique characteristic that is you can fool them sometimes but not all the time and they certainly knows what is going on in their country.
The people of Sierra Leone can be grateful when things are done correctly but can be very stubborn, disruptive and distasteful if you try to bundle them with lies and deceit. In the case of the Libyan rice, if what the writer of the above article was right, why are the people so dissatisfied with what was done to the gifts? regardless of the TV, Radio, Internet State House memos advertisements it means nothing. If the gifts were really dispersed in accordance with the law, then the people would not have had doubt as to the whereabout of the gifts. But when is done otherwise you will face the music from the public.
In the writer's other claims of EBK's involvement in the scandal, bear in mind that during the campaign, the APC used this scenerio to convince the public. Now tell me, if the SLPP knew that EBK was involved why didn't they make counter claims? I would if it were me.
Furthermore, if what the writer claimed is true about EBK buying some of the rice, I think it is well within his right to do so, as he was not part of the government of Kabba but a member of the public.
So my friend, your claims have no substance and certainly no truth behind them
Lonta!!!
Subject: Re: Libya Rice Clarification
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 18:33:52 01/21/08 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Message:
It is not true to say SLPP failed to win because of the Libyan rice matter. That was just another nail in the coffin of a doomed government.
APC won because the overall reputation of the ousted government was not good in large sections of the country (no electricity, no water, corruption and arrogant ministers, flirting with Ghadaffi, high food prices, huge unemployment of youths, 'monkey wok babu eat' insider culture, anger from frustrated donors, etc., etc.) and people thus wanted to get rid of Kabbah's group regardless of the consequences.
Please try and understand the true facts. Kabbah did the rice thing correctly. His widely unpopular flirtation with Ghadaffi merely backfired and at a crucial time at that. - JL
Subject: Re: Libya Rice Clarification
From: MAM
To: All
Date Posted: 08:51:54 01/21/08 ()
Email Address: MIKE@HOTMAIL.COM
Entered From: at 66.23.15.6
Message:
That is a good one
Subject: Re: Libya Rice Clarification
From: Truth hurts
To: All
Date Posted: 12:55:26 01/21/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
You mean that was a most stupid and deceitful explanation ?.
Subject: Re: Libya Rice Clarification
From: Freetownean
To: All
Date Posted: 15:33:31 01/21/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-151-6-182.range86-151.btcentralplus.com at 86.151.6.182
Message:
When things don't go your way it becomes 'stupid and deceitful explanation'.
Subject: Beckham visits Sierra Leone as UNICEF envoy
From: Ball Boy
To: All
Date Posted: 17:19:44 01/20/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
English soccer star David Beckham met with children in Sierra Leone on Saturday as part of his role as a Goodwill Ambassador for UNICEF, the U.N. child agency.
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Subject: GHADAFI SHOULD SE SUED BY SALONE GOVERNMENT
From: saloneman
To: All
Date Posted: 16:37:17 01/20/08 ()
Email Address: charles@hotmail.com
Entered From: pool-71-241-240-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 71.241.240.21
Message:
I THINK WE SHOULD STOP ACCEPTING CHEAP CHIFTS FROM GHADAFI.WHEN EVER WE ACCEPT CHEAP GIFTS FROM GHADAFI THE SOULS OF OUR POOR BROTHERS AND SISTERS WHO WERE VICTIMS OF GHADAFI'S DIABOLIC PLANS TO DISTABILIZED WEST AFRICA CRIE FROM BENEATH THE EARTH.WE THE PEOPLE AND GOVERNMENT OF SIERRA LEONE SHOULD START THINKING ABOVE TAKING HIM TO INTERNATIONAL COURT.WE ALL KNOW THAT PEOPLE LIKE CHARLES TAYLOR(NPFL),CLEO HANCILES,FODAY SANKOH,MASKITA,A LOT OF BUKINABES,IVORIANS ETC,ETC WERE TRAINED AND ARMED BY GHADAFI,AFTER HIS GREEN BOOK REVOLUTION FAILED IN THE SIXTIES AND SEVETIES.I KNOW FOR SURE IT WAS AFTER THE NPRC BOYS LED BY MAADA BIO VISITED HIM IN LIBYA BEGGING HIM TO STOP AND GET FODAY SANKOH OUT OF THE BUSH,THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME SANKOH REALLY WAS FLOWN TO IVORY COAST WERE THE FIRST MEETING TOOK PLACE.PLEASE PRESIDENT KOROMA I KNOW YOU MEAN WELL FOR SIERRA LEONE AND YOU BELIEVE IN RECONCILIATION,BUT YOU HAVE TO STAND UP FOR THE INJUSTICES AND CRIMES THAT GHADAFI COMITTED AGAINST SIERRA LEONE.HE IS CURRENTLY TREATING US LIKE BEGGARS WITH NO RESPECT AND CONCIENCE.HE NEEDS TO FIRST OF ALL ACKNOWLEDGE AND APPOLOGISE TO THE PEOPLE OF SIERRA LEONE FOR ALL THE SUFFERING HE PUT OUR NATION THROUGH.
Subject: Re: GHADAFI SHOULD SE SUED BY SALONE GOVERNMENT
From: Guinean
To: All
Date Posted: 14:45:03 01/21/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Sure, let's sue Gadaffi ...after we have sued every SLPP Tiffman for economic terrorism and plunder. The brazenness with which the SLPP misruled Sierra Leone with the systematic looting of the countrty's coffers and the wilful neglect of the country's infrastructure is akin to economic suicide-bombing. U guys need to apologise for all the sins u have perpetrated on our people or else u will never taste power in Salone again.
Some of us are planning a petition to hurl your tiff-tiff heroes before the new Economic-Crimes-Against-Humanity Special Court. We can't wait to see Kabba, Sama Banya, Berewa, Momodu Koroma, JJ Blood, Sylvia Worwor and their diasporan cheerleaders behind the dock with Charles Taylor.
Subject: Re: GHADAFI SHOULD SE SUED BY SALONE GOVERNMENT
From: Deemdeen
To: All
Date Posted: 19:16:19 01/20/08 ()
Email Address: Deemdeen@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-68-33-37-252.hsd1.va.comcast.net at 68.33.37.252
Message:
The shame about Sierra Leone is that we are so dependent on begging that we take gifts from even the devil. Countries like Libya and Burkina Faso had direct links with the rebels that caused us so much harm, yet we now allow Ghadaffi to have a free ride in Sierra Leone. What a shame. It is time we identify our enemies and our friends. We cannot progress as a country if we accept any kind of treatment from people even when we know their motives are not good. That has been the problem with the Lebanese and other nationals we have taken Sierra Leone for a ride. Ghadaffi is a crook!!
Subject: Re: GHADAFI SHOULD SE SUED BY SALONE GOVERNMENT
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 16:48:27 01/21/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
My friend, America can afford to have enemies, for reasons you may well be aware of.
Sierra Leone on the other hand cannot. If Libya, as many claimed is responsible for atrocities in our country, the best we can do is accept help from them when they offer otherwise what happened cannot be reversed. At least if they offer us gifts these can be used to cover some potholes in our country.
As it stand at the moment Sierra Leone does not both the financial and political will to pursue people like Ghaddafi.
The only thing that will allow our beloved brothers, sisters and children's blood spilled in vain is when we misused any gifts destined for Salone as in the case of the Kabba Administration.
Subject: Re: GHADAFI SHOULD SE SUED BY SALONE GOVERNMENT
From: LOW GRADE SAN SAN
To: All
Date Posted: 08:07:55 01/21/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Apart from the shame, what is more depressing is the sight of desperate sierra leoneans fighting each other for left over meat from Saudi Arabia thrown at us at junctions. We have to wait for the Saudis to celebrate their feast before ever we could eat lamb meat.
I can't understand why Sierra Leone, a fertile land, have to beg for rice from a man who has our blood in his hands and happens to be living in a barren desert. Where did it all go wrong?
Some say we should forgive him and move on. But this animal has shown no remorse. He thinks by dolling out a bit of his cash on a destitute nation we should be grateful to him. Well not in my name.
As far as am concern Gaddafi could not run things among the big boys in the Arab League so he had to come all the way down west and create little gods like Taylor and Compore who will answerer yes to him.
Sankoh was a complete idiot and an embarrassment to his financiers both Taylor and Gaddafi. Therefor as damage control, he Gaddafi had to look for another fool to manipulate. And Kabba, who like a desperate prostitute looking for a punter with a flash of case, was easy to lay for � 50,000 all in the name of Islamic brotherhood. What a shame !
Subject: Re: GHADAFI SHOULD SE SUED BY SALONE GOVERNMENT
From: concern
To: All
Date Posted: 04:35:12 01/21/08 ()
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If Japan can make peace with the United States and Germany can reconcile with its bitter enemies, then why Sierra Leone should shun nations that had problem with in the past. Sierra Leoneans are still unmerciful and wicked people who do not forgive others.
Ghaddafi did not force the RUF who had total control in the East of the Country to cause mayhem in the country. Sierra Leone's destruction was a s a result of its people bad habit and ability to destroy their brothers and sisters.
If ose nor sell yu, street norgo buy you. Ghaddafi was reacting to the circumstances. It was Sierra Leoneans who took matchets and cutlass to amputate their own and connive with foreigners to reap the country dead.
The SLPP elected officials that have little or no love for Sierra Leone. Unless, Sierra Leoneans stop killing their own and help their true brothers and sisters before there will be good future.
All of us must ask ourselves this question, do we really love Sierra Leone or the gods in the land that bring evil?
Subject: Re: GHADAFI SHOULD SE SUED BY SALONE GOVERNMENT
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 12:48:50 01/21/08 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Message:
Dear Mr. Deemdeen:
In your posting, you made two statements that are not accurate in my humble opinion. I will rebut then in turn as follows:
1. "If ose nor sell yu, street norgo buy you. Ghaddafi was reacting to the circumstances."
The opposite of the above is the truth for Ghaddafi was not the reactor. He was the clear instigator, a bad man hell bent on exporting terrorism at the time. The RUF, Campoare and Taylor merely took advantage of what he was offering willing to force violence to get their way.
Those people never told him to write, publish and heavily publicized his Green Book. They never built, equipped, staffed and funded his revolutionary military training camps in Libya. Ghaddafi provided our terrosists with training, weapons, nurturing and cash.
In those days, SL was the weakest link in a chain of failed African states. Ghaddafi was only too happy and extremely enthusiastic to export his terrorism even to sick people like Sankoh.
Hence, the truth was this: "the treet took way-tin Gahddafi been dey gee-way".
Next:
2. "The SLPP elected officials [that] have little or no love for Sierra Leone."
This is not true at all. Sure there were bad SLPP officials and I am the first to point out this situation. But many, many elected and appointed SLPP officials were just as frustrated and unhappy as you and I. They truly loved their country but given the nature of our culture and the way it has shaped our people's bahaviour and impoverished our country, they suffered in silence and complained in hush-hush tones only as their only realistic option.
To do otherwise would have exposed them to catastrophic retaliation, intimidation, 100% marginalization, humilation and even abandonment by friends and even relatives.
Let's face it, Sierra Leone presents us all with a very hash cultural and economic environment. In this situation, only a few individuals have the mentality and/ability to publicly complain about official wrongdoings and then go on to withstand our officials' vicious wrath.
Accordingly, I respectfully urge you to take a more benign of some of our dethroned SLPP office-holders. Thank you very much. - JL
Subject: Re: GHADAFI SHOULD SE SUED BY SALONE GOVERNMENT
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 16:59:23 01/21/08 ()
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"Let's face it, Sierra Leone presents us all with a very hash cultural and economic environment."
I completely disagree with you on the above quote.
We as Sierra Leoneans not Salone that presented hash cultural and economic environment.
Salone presented us with abundant wealth raging from minerals and marine resources to very fertile agricultural land. It's us who misused these resources.
Subject: Re: GHADAFI SHOULD SE SUED BY SALONE GOVERNMENT
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 18:46:15 01/21/08 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Sierra Leoneans are not the only ones involved in creating a harsh environment at home. Outsiders have contributed to the country's ruination from time immemorial from slave traders to blood diamond looters and beyond.
The result is a harsh cultural and economic environment in-country despite all the education, all the religion, all the natural resources, all the free and fair voting, all the aid, all the free press, "the might nations" we once "led", etc.
Of course, you are still free to disagree with my analysis. Yours is also great. - JL
Subject: Re: GHADAFI SHOULD SE SUED BY SALONE GOVERNMENT
From: concern
To: All
Date Posted: 04:34:16 01/21/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
If Japan can make peace with the United States and Germany can reconcile with its bitter enemies, then why Sierra Leone should shun nations that had problem with in the past. Sierra Leoneans are still unmerciful and wicked people who do not forgive others.
Ghaddafi did not force the RUF who had total control in the East of the Country to cause mayhem in the country. Sierra Leone's destruction was a s a result of its people bad habit and ability to destroy their brothers and sisters.
If ose nor sell yu, street norgo buy you. Ghaddafi was reacting to the circumstances. It was Sierra Leoneans who took matchets and cutlass to amputate their own and connive with foreigners to reap the country dead.
The SLPP elected officials that have little or no love for Sierra Leone. Unless, Sierra Leoneans stop killing their own and help their true brothers and sisters before there will be good future.
All of us must ask ourselves this question, do we really love Sierra Leone of the gods in the land that bring evil?
Subject: Re: GHADAFI SHOULD SE SUED BY SALONE GOVERNMENT
From: true-say-talk-me
To: All
Date Posted: 19:50:30 01/20/08 ()
Email Address: charles@hotmail.com
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Message:
SIR,YOU ARE SO RIGHT.SIERRA LEONEANS NEVER TAKE A FOREIGN ENEMY AS AN ENEMY.WE HAVE THE TENDENCY TO EVEN SLEEP IN THE SAME BED WITH FOREIGN ENEMIES.THE ONLY TRUE ENEMY TO A SIERRA LEONEAN IS HIS OWN BROTHER(FELLOW SIERRA LEONEAN) WHO IS FROM ANOTHER TRIBE, OPPOSITION PARTY OR REGION.
NIGERIA OR EVEN OUR NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR GUINEA WOULD HAVE NEVER EMBRASSED GHADAFI WITH HIS CHEAP GIFT HE HIS SENDING TO SIERRA LEONE AFTER HE HAD SENT TO THE GRAVE THOUSAND OF SIERRA LEONEANS FARMERS WHO WERE FATHERS AND MOTHERS TO THOUSAND OF TODAY HOMELESS AND FATHERLESS CHILDREN.
COMMON MAN, LET WITH ONE ACCORD START POINTING OUR FINGERS AT THE EXTERNAL ENEMIES OF SIERRA LEONE, WHO WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR SUCH NASTY WARS.AND LET THE LEADERSHIP OF OUR WONDERFUL PRESIDENT START DEMANDING EXPLANATIONS AND APPOLOGISES FROM THESE PEOPLE.
Subject: Re: GHADAFI SHOULD SE SUED BY SALONE GOVERNMENT
From: Saidu Daphay Turay
To: All
Date Posted: 17:48:04 01/20/08 ()
Email Address:
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Not only Ghadafi but Blaise Campaori of Bukina Faso should be sued. Ghadafi is taking advantage of the poverty and misery that he helped to create in Sierra Leone. If only we have wise and selfless leaders in Sierra Leone, what is rice, floor or contrabands that Sierra Leone can't afford than to look up to blood stained people like Ghadafi for help. It is high time we tell this Arab ideologue expansionist that enough is enough and gone are the days of the trans-saharan slave trade where Africans are dehumanized, abused and tortured to death.
Subject: Re: GHADAFI SHOULD SE SUED BY SALONE GOVERNMENT
From: true-say-talk-me
To: All
Date Posted: 16:46:02 01/20/08 ()
Email Address: winston@hotmail.com
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Message:
thank you man God bless you.Infact i was told that ambassador John leigh advised Kabbah against Ghadafi's visit.I think he should have been arrested and handed over to special court.Libya might have declear war and invaded us anyway.
Subject: Re: GHADAFI SHOULD SE SUED BY SALONE GOVERNMENT
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 11:53:25 01/21/08 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Message:
Dear true-say-talk-me:
Please note that Ghaddafi could not have been lawfully arrested and handed over to the Special Court during his June 2007 visit because no arrest warrant was outstanding against him anywhere.
In fact, Ghaddafi is not under any indictment anywhere.
The Special Court Prosecutor's Office named Ghaddafi only as Taylor's unindicted co-conspirator in the war of plunder and terrorism against our people and country.
I believe that the evidence the Special Prosecutor put on the record regarding Ghaddafi's role in Taylor's war against our people and his naming as Taylor's co-conspirator in SL's suffering and destruction were a clear signal to our government that it could sue Ghaddafi in the US because there exists evidence that would pass muster in the US legal system.
At the time, both Congressional and Administration officials were heavily backing our country. - JL
Subject: Re: GHADAFI SHOULD SE SUED BY SALONE GOVERNMENT
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 18:26:48 01/20/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
THIS COCORIOKO FORUM has been set up to provide Sierra Leoneans with a vehicle through which they can express their views about matters affecting their country. It must be made quite clear that the views expressed on this forum in no way represent the position of the COCORIOKO Newspaper on these issues. Articles written on this forum solely represent the views of the writers, not COCORIOKO.The forum and the newspaper are two different entities.
Subject: Re: GHADAFI SHOULD SE SUED BY SALONE GOVERNMENT
From: true-say-talk-me
To: All
Date Posted: 19:26:49 01/20/08 ()
Email Address: charles@hotmail.com
Entered From: pool-71-241-240-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 71.241.240.21
Message:
Thanks Bambay, the whole world knows that the opinion expressed in this forum is not that of the editor or the Cocorioko Newspaper,so what is your point.Is this issue too sensitive for you, whom i believe is well knowledgeable in the facts finding and history of Sierra Leone to touch.
I was expecting a better opinion from particularly a man like you with such a great wisdom and talent(Don't get me wrong i respect your writings and critics).We should put aside all fear aide now and start questioning and demanding answers from people like GHADAFI,BLAISE CAMPOIRE,THANK GOD CHARLES TAYLOR IS BEEN QUESTIONED BY THE INTERNATIONAL COURT ON BEHALF OF SIERRA LEONE.LET GHADAFI KNOWS THAT THE SAME WAY THE EUROPEANS AND THE AMERICANS ARE ON HIS BACK FOR THEIR PEOPLE THAT WERE KILLED IN PANAM FLIGHT,SIERRA LEONEANS LIVES ARE AS WORTHY AS EUROPEAN LIVES.
Subject: Re: GHADAFI SHOULD SE SUED BY SALONE GOVERNMENT
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 21:54:33 01/20/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Greetings my brothers and sisters. True-say-talk-me, thank you for your kind words. I have learned in life that I should always recheck facts before I say or take a stance on anything. I was blessed to have worked at State House, where I dealt with a lot of diplomats that helped shaped me in matters like this. The reason I am cautious is because we do not have any substantial proof nor has any of our governments, not the S.L.P.P. nor the A.P.C. ever made any allegations that Col. Muamar Qaddafi had any dealings with the rebels in a way of support, direct or indirect.
I read and listened to foreign diplomats but never read nor hear any allegations of any kind, regarding the allegation people are making here, in the strongest term, that Col. Muamar Gaddafi is buying us "for the role he played in aiding and abating the rebels in our war, which is why he is making these donations to us. The American Presidents nor members of Congress made no such pronouncement of Qaddafi's involvement in our war. The FBI named few people they suspected to might have been dealing with Al Qadda and even denied them passports or any immunity for travel to the U.S.
The British Prime Minister, Tony Blair nor any member of the British Parliament made no such allegations. Therefore, if not even an allegation was made, it will be foolhardy to find substantial evidence to purport what? Yes, there were rumors but are we that naive to take Sierra Leonean rumors for granted to ingrainedly make such stern accusations? I hope not.
This is a subject that I have responded to His Excellency Ambassador John E. Leigh in a thread following: http://www.hwforums.com/2179/messages/59640.html
In which case, I will feel free, at this juncture, to advice you to look at it from the standpoint that no allegation was ever levied against Col. Qaddafi by any investigation unit in Sierra Leone, by the International Criminal Court, nor any world leader but few Sierra Leonean ordinary people who have no means of getting information on what transpired in Libya by the Libyan leader. We did not get any information about his involvement from the testimonials from the government, the oppositions, the rebels, the CDF nor any indites including Charles Taylor in their Truth and Reconciliation Committee testimonies. Therefore, we must lay it to rest and focus on healing our nation. This is the view I am taking and not that I do not care about our people nor that I am scared. As you all may know me, I am not that type of person who will be scared, as long as it is about my, our Sierra Leonean people. I'll rather die but not support any mankind for inflicting pains on Sierra Leoneans. But why blame an innocent person especially one who is rendering services to the people? I think the world will look at us as ingrates if we are to criticize Col. Qaadafi for donations he makes to our people as though he owes us something. He is donating to us because he sees the need. This leads me to say that these grumbles are telling me that we do not wready to be self-reliant. Are we ready? Then let us put this rumors to rest as Sierra Leoneans have become famous for rumors. Let us read widely especially about our country to be able to contribute with authority towards national development.
It is on this bases that I am cautioning all and sundry to be careful what we say especially in matters like this.
Once again, thank you for your kind words.
Subject: Re: GHADAFI SHOULD SE SUED BY SALONE GOVERNMENT
From: Kalos
To: All
Date Posted: 10:44:31 01/21/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Thanks LANS for putting this matter to "final rest". Let me admit I don't know the details of the allegations surrounding Ghadafi's sponsor of atrocities in SL or the recent humanitarian gestures to our people. Albeit, your words are good enough for most of us to put aside the rumors and look forward for better relationships with other leaders/countries.
It is never too late; how was the Dulles welcome?
Subject: Re: GHADAFI SHOULD SE SUED BY SALONE GOVERNMENT
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 17:03:03 01/21/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Kalos, thank you for the response. We as a people must focus on attention on what is important and stop playing the fool all the time by engaging in frivolous gossips, rumor-mongering and sadistic gratifications. As you can see, I am one who has very little time for rumors, gossips because I pay attention to important things, important that affect my people and I directly. If it does not concern me, I never try to make-belief that I am part of it by impossing on the ones concerned nor do I try to prevent it. It is dumb to make such efforts in certain circumstances.
The Dulles reception was fantastic. Let us talk about this shall we?
Subject: If man nor cut mek man at least listen to the music.
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 16:25:46 01/20/08 ()
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Message:
Nah!
Subject: Re: If man nor cut mek man at least listen to the music.
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 16:28:05 01/20/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PwpZVlOumc
Sorring!
Subject: GUINEA HAVE EQUALISED!
From: Bai Bureh
To: All
Date Posted: 12:26:41 01/20/08 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: c83-248-87-193.bredband.comhem.se at 83.248.87.193
Message:
IN the 65th minute by Kalabagn.
Subject: Re: GUINEA HAVE EQUALISED!
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 13:21:44 01/20/08 ()
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Message:
It was shown of Cox 473 in my area...
Thats the MHZ4 station.. i think its nigerian owned and operated..
So it is broadcasted in the USA..
Subject: Re: GUINEA HAVE EQUALISED!
From: Ghana wins!
To: All
Date Posted: 12:59:27 01/20/08 ()
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Message:
Ghana wins 2-1
Subject: Re: GUINEA HAVE EQUALISED!
From: Bai Bureh
To: All
Date Posted: 13:07:29 01/20/08 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
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Message:
Sooooooooooo sad!
Subject: Re: GUINEA HAVE EQUALISED!
From: Ref Seychellois
To: All
Date Posted: 03:28:15 01/21/08 ()
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Message:
Admittedly, the ref had to award an unnecessary penalty to Ghana to give them an undeserved lead. He even denied Guinea a penalty which could have changed the final tally.
Anyway, home advantage prevailed. Good luck to Guinea next time.
Subject: OUR NEIGHBOUR GUINEA ARE ONE DOWN
From: Bai Bureh
To: All
Date Posted: 12:18:19 01/20/08 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
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Message:
The Ghanaians have capitalised on the inexperience of the Guineans to convert a penalty to a goal.
Subject: Make a Thaymneh Mayor of Freetown
From: Pa Shedu
To: All
Date Posted: 08:29:56 01/20/08 ()
Email Address: pashedu@yahoo.com
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Message:
For the first time in its history, Freetown (Rokiamp) needs a Thaymneh (Temne) to become mayor. There are many reasons for that. First, Freetown belongs to Thaymneh, not the Krios. Second, there are more Thaymneh in Freetown than any other ethnic group. Third, the time is right. Finally, the city need a no nonsense, strong leader, and most Thaymnehs can fit that desription. Luntha.
Subject: Re: Make a Thaymneh Mayor of Freetown
From: ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA
To: All
Date Posted: 14:30:53 01/20/08 ()
Email Address: SAIDUBANGSO@AOL.COM
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Pa Shedu, please be informed that there is no law that prevents a Temmne from becoming the Mayor of Freetown. I draw your attention to two things that justify my point :
(1) Recently, the late Foday Kalokoh(a proper Temne man) was elected deputy mayor, that tells any sober minded person that Kalokoh was equally qualified to be mayor.
Now, Bobson Kamara (another Temne) is the acting deputy mayor.
(2) The mayor is the head among equals at the
Freetown City Council. There are many councilors who are Temnes in the council.
I advice the councilors to make sure that they properly examine the past records of anybody who wants to be mayor of Freetown. At this time we the well meaning people of Sierra Leone must only be interested in electing/appointing the most suitable people to sensitives positions. Your tribe or religious belief should never be a qualification to hold an office.
Subject: Re: Make a Thaymneh Mayor of Freetown
From: Man way nor get worrie
To: All
Date Posted: 14:52:59 01/20/08 ()
Email Address: codfodnus@aol.com
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Message:
This is the first time Alpha Saidu Bangura has stated something that make sense. Thanks for your contribution.
Subject: Re: Make a Thaymneh Mayor of Freetown
From: LOW GRADE SAN SAN.
To: All
Date Posted: 11:48:57 01/20/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Well, on Monday i will table a motion in my local council meeting to replace our black Mayor with a white person for the following reasons.
First, because my borough belongs to the whites and not blacks. Second, there are more whites in my local authority than any other ethnic minority.
Third, i really believe that this is the right time for us to be racist or should i say TRIBALISTIC. So we should have a red neck as our new mayor to fit the bill. wae u sae Pa.
Subject: Re: Make a Thaymneh Mayor of Freetown
From: fact
To: All
Date Posted: 00:48:19 01/21/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
please leave the mayor bizness to the krios. freetown is the only place they can call home although they themselves know it does not belong to them. in fact giving the mayorship to a themneh man will only make it easy for the slpp nothernisation propaganda to take shape. forget it.
Subject: Re: Make a Thaymneh Mayor of Freetown
From: Pa Shedu
To: All
Date Posted: 15:50:39 01/20/08 ()
Email Address: pashedu@yahoo.com
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Message:
Whether you live in Australia, America, Canada or Britain, people look after their own interest first. Why will Britian deport a terminally ill Ghanauab lady back to Ghana from her hospital bed? Because she is not British. As a Thaymneh, I have the right to look out for my people to advance. That is life. You can table any motion where you live but as for me, I will work hard to get a Thaymneh who is qualified and able to lead the city of Freetown as mayor.
Subject: Re: Make a Thaymneh Mayor of Freetown
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 17:16:06 01/21/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
In our era that's wrong. We no longer need people to rule Salone for their personal interest but for national interest.
Let the right person be placed in the position.
Subject: Re: Make a Thaymneh Mayor of Freetown
From: Pa Shedu
To: All
Date Posted: 15:49:33 01/20/08 ()
Email Address: pashedu@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-68-33-37-252.hsd1.va.comcast.net at 68.33.37.252
Message:
Whether you live in Australia, America, Canada or Britain, people look after their own interest first. Why will Britian deport a terminally ill Ghana lady back to Ghana from her hospital bed? Because she is not Britian. As a Thaymneh, I have the right to look out for my people to advance. That is life. You can table any motion where you live but as for me, I will work hard to get a Thaymneh who is qualified and able to lead the city of Freetown as mayor.
Subject: Re: Make a Thaymneh Mayor of Freetown
From: Tupit
To: All
Date Posted: 09:22:20 01/20/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
You are right no Themne has ever been Mayor because as you Themne said S.I. Koroma was Soso. You tribal bigots
Subject: Re: Make a Thaymneh Mayor of Freetown
From: nico
To: All
Date Posted: 11:14:28 01/20/08 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
Entered From: 82-45-226-138.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.45.226.138
Message:
As a people, we are pathetic. People who propelled tribalism at every opportunity afforded them are despicable and not urban. Those who continue to promote tribal elements may end up fighting their own half brothers, half sisters, uncles grand parents etc who may not be of the same tribes as they.
It seem to me that we as a nation do not really know ourselves, and not surprisingly some rogue politicians have taken advantage of such ignorance in our body politics.
I have not bothered to acquaint myself with the backgroud and reasons that led to the impeachemnt of the Mayor of freetown, who happened to be a creole.
But instead of analysing the reasons and the political implication for his impeachment, we are now being told that Freetown belong to the Temenes and hence the mayor should be a Temene. Does this provides a pointer to the mayors dismissal? God help Sierra Leone.
I note someone mentioned that S I Koroma was a Soso. S I Koroma was not a Soso. His father, a Mandingo, migrated from Guinea and married a Temene woman. That was what he told the people in Bo town hall when he was positioning himself to succeed Siaka Steven. But unfortunately for him Siaka had a better idea over who to succeeded him.
Also people believe that Tejan Kabba is a Mandingo. He is not. Like S I Koroma, Kabba's SoSo ground father migrated from Guinea with his three sons. One of the the sons, Fodi Kabba, settled in Kenema where he later became the Chief imam of the centre mosgue. Tejan Kabba's own father had two sons with a mende woman. Shakuba, the eldest of the two passed away.
Our tribes cannot and should not determine our place in Sierra Leone but what we as individuals or collectively can offer our nation-the only nation we all belong.
Subject: Re: Make a Thaymneh Mayor of Freetown
From: SAL.
To: All
Date Posted: 19:30:04 01/20/08 ()
Email Address: sagifar@aol.com
Entered From: c-71-233-4-178.hsd1.ma.comcast.net at 71.233.4.178
Message:
My fellow Country Men. Let set back and think. I think Freetown City Mayor is for the people of Freetown. Meaning the Creole and Fourahbays, Foulah Towns and even the Aberdeens whom we call Okus.
Let us go back to History, there was a Mayor called Fattah Rahman, the man Fattah Rahman Municipal School was named after. I am not a Creole. Have we ever seen in the History Sierra Leone a Creole ever been Crowned a Paramount Chief in the Provinces. I Think there was adocument when the British wanted to leave Sierra Leone that they left with us, called a Constitution. Let us check back from the time of the Governor General to a Prime Minister and now a President. That Governor Generals' office used to be that very State House that we have our President today.
Subject: Re: Make a Thaymneh Mayor of Freetown
From: Pa Shedu
To: All
Date Posted: 15:43:46 01/20/08 ()
Email Address: pashedu@yahoo.com
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Message:
Whether you like it or not, Sierra Leone is divided on tribal lines. The SLPP is basically a Mende party, that is the reason they could win the north or Freetown. The APC is a northern party. There is nothing wrong with being proud of ones tribe. We Thaymnehs have been sidelined for a long time, but now with the President as one of us, it is time for us to rule Freetown. You have a problem with that, then you are not being realistic.
Subject: Re: Make a Thaymneh Mayor of Freetown
From: Tupit
To: All
Date Posted: 04:59:25 01/21/08 ()
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Yeah the prsident is one of you. Ernest Koroma's mother is Limba and his father was Loko. But the man was raised a Limba. One of you? Just ask why they have formed the Rogbaneh Union. Just as the Themneh's reject SI Koroma, they have already started rejecting Lamina Poyo, the Loko-Limba boy
Subject: Re: Make a Thaymneh Mayor of Freetown
From: Tay wan
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Date Posted: 13:43:55 01/21/08 ()
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Please try to ask the president about his tribe before starting writing nonsense. Stop throughout tribes.
thanks
Subject: Re: Make a Thaymneh Mayor of Freetown
From: Bai Bureh
To: All
Date Posted: 12:11:39 01/20/08 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
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Now I see why SLPP will never rule Salone again.Your thirst and desperation for power blinded you into chosing a foreigner to rule our sovereign state.It is clear why the Kabba regime sucked such that he had to throw Yenga away to his homeland Guinea. Who will be the next leader for SLPP? A chigro? A nigerian?
I see no reason why people should cry the US down for ruling Iraq! They copied from Salone.
Regarding the above topic,I see no reason why Temnes should be mayors when they make nearly 70 percent of the chiefs in Salone including Freetown.If temnes snatch the mayorship of Freetown what will the Krios boast of? One should not forget that the krios are also Saloneans who have their own capabilities.These funny jokes should be discouraged.
Subject: Re: Make a Thaymneh Mayor of Freetown
From: kamara
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Date Posted: 18:07:07 01/20/08 ()
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Look, Kabba is a genuine Sierra Leonean . His mother is from the Coomber family in Kailahun, his grandfather was from Kankan , guinea but settled in Gbolon, Kambia district. Many Sierra Leoneans have grandparents from Guinea.
talking about Yenga. What has ernest and APC done about Yenga so far? A big fat nothing. They criticised SLPP during the elections. APC is all noise. Do not worry about SLPP, they will elect a real leader this time around.
Let the best person be mayor regardless of tribe. The Temne did own romarong at one time.
Subject: Re: Make a Thaymneh Mayor of Freetown
From: MUSA KAMARA
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Date Posted: 14:55:59 01/20/08 ()
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Bai Bureh,I have stayed out for so long but this article prompted me to buttress your outstanding statement on Kabbah's ancestry,his attitudes towards our country and the unpatriotic clan-slpp that bestowed him such a responsible job for their selfish ends.Thanks be to the Almight God,they are out of office and they will stay in the wilderness for decades to come,till they realise that Sierra-Leone and her people come first before party or tribal connections.The slpp (clan)can even allow a Lebanese to head our nation as long as he serves their interest and not the state.God bless Sierra-Leone,her people,President Dr Earnest Bai Koroma and the APC.
Subject: ChoMe, me, choose me not him! The guy with character &style.
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 08:05:19 01/20/08 ()
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Democracy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTJGWYk4Kyo
Subject: ChoMe, me, choose me not him! The guy with character &style.
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 08:03:43 01/20/08 ()
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Democracy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTJGWYk4Kyo
Subject: Re: ChoMe, me, choose me not him! The guy with character &style.
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 08:06:26 01/20/08 ()
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http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=UTF-8&fr=yfp-t-501&p=whoopi+goldberg&SpellState=n-840372600_q-92BkMEL%2FjN725kCqwpyTHgAAAA%40%40&fr2=sp-top
Subject: HONORABLE KORTHOR KING LOGGY
From: Kawusu
To: All
Date Posted: 03:57:16 01/20/08 ()
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Honorable King Loggy,
Those of us who have known you online for sometime know that within a very short period of time, you have jumped the SLPP ship like a rat to become a major propagandist for the APC. Is it due to NORTHERNIZATION? I am not in any way suggesting that you are either a regionalist or a tribalist since I know that you are far better than that. But since the APC came to power I have seen quite a few progressive northerners basking in what seems to be a northern political hegemony in Sierra Leone. Are you one of them? Are you putting ethnicity and regionalism before national unity?
WAN TAYE EN PROPAGANDA, KING LOGGY. NOW READ THE FOLLOWING AND TRY TO RECONCILE IT WITH THE IMAGE THAT OBAI ERNEST IS NOW PROJECTING.
Five years ago, in 2003, the then leader of the opposition, Ernest Bai Koroma, said the following about Libya in his response to President Ahmed Tejan-Kabbah's speech to parliament:
We note that his Excellency has extended thanks to those countries that have offered us assistance during these difficult times. We associate ourselves with those sentiments. However, the addition of Libya as one of the countries that have offered bi-lateral aid to this country is astonishing. Libya has been associated with devious and unsavory activities that have resulted in disastrous consequences for our people. It is no use hiding unpleasant facts that have threatened our national security in diplomatic parlance. Libya has been a threat to our security and now we have to thank them for this. We want to know from Government what kind of assistance Sierra Leone has received form Libya that it should be mentioned in the breath as the United Kingdom, the People�s Republic of China or Saudi Arabia.
Even by President Koroma's own very low standards on sticking to one's word about declaring assets and having zero tolerance on corruption, this diplomatic volte face is astonishing. On Tuesday, President Ernest Bai Koroma had completely changed his tune as he stood next to 4 tractors (ear-marked for the north), 400 bags of rice, and 200 bags of flour donated to Sierra Leone by Gaddafi's Libya. He parised Gaddafi as a humanitarian and a worthy African leader. He xehorted all Africans to recognize the primary role that the Libyan government of Gaddafi has played in resolving sub-regional crises.
But having been vociferously critical of the SLPP government's handling of the Libya rice - rumours about which he whipped up popular resentment of the SLPP government, Sierra Leoneans are waiting to see what his government will do with the 400 bags of rice and the tractors. Will those disappear like the electricity contracts or the assets that have not been declared? Where will the 4 tractors go? This newspaper awaits a public statement on all of those issues.Transparency starts here.
Subject: Re: HONORABLE KORTHOR KING LOGGY
From: DeLaw
To: All
Date Posted: 18:03:21 01/21/08 ()
Email Address: contehlawrence@yahoo.com
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THE PRESIDENT IS PLAYING POLITICS WITH THE WHOLE ISSUE AND THAT IS TO BE EXPECTED AS HE PLACES HIMSELF AND THE APC STRATEGICALLY,TO GAIN POLITICAL CAPITAL.
Subject: Re: HONORABLE KORTHOR KING LOGGY
From: KING LOGGY
To: All
Date Posted: 05:06:58 01/20/08 ()
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"Those of us who have known you
online for sometime know that
within a very short period of
time, you have jumped the SLPP
ship like a rat to become a major
propagandist for the APC. Is it
due to NORTHERNIZATION?"
(Kawusu)
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Yes chief, it is due to "NORTHERNIZATION", just as it was during the "SOUTHERNIZATION" of 2003 when myself and so many Northerners supported the SLPP.
But DON'T underestimate this SURGE FOR A CHANGE (Thanks to FP) that resulted into your so-called "NORTHERNIZATION". Talk to Charles Margai and all the PMDC Southerners who jumped ship, and you might just learn something you don't readily know.
So as you can see, this KING is always with the people not the party. Follow this link and it might just answer a question for you:
Subject: Re: HONORABLE KORTHOR KING LOGGY
From: Talk True
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Date Posted: 13:03:46 01/22/08 ()
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Loggy please talk true befoe God ehn man; you nar wan ROTTEN WATERMELON man. Always has been, but you camouflage tay tay ee go cormot.Ehn since you support NOTHERNIZATION so much, we go pull da Mende ooman nar u han. Regionalistic borggehdor.
Subject: Re: HONORABLE KORTHOR KING LOGGY
From: Kawusu
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Date Posted: 07:51:06 01/20/08 ()
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Korthor Loggy,
But don't you think that you should maintain some consistency in your political support?? Why are you here today and there tomorrow? And you call yourself a King? From your analysis, it can be insinuated that if the SLPP or PMDC came to power tomorrow you will be ready to jump from the APC ship like a rat and change colors like a chamelion. Where do your political philosophy and principles lie , honorable King Loggy???
Subject: Re: HONORABLE KORTHOR KING LOGGY
From: KING LOGGY
To: All
Date Posted: 22:15:14 01/21/08 ()
Email Address:
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Kawusu:
You can learn a lot from Bai Bureh.
Subject: Re: HONORABLE KORTHOR KING LOGGY
From: Bai Bureh
To: All
Date Posted: 06:09:31 01/20/08 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: c83-248-87-193.bredband.comhem.se at 83.248.87.193
Message:
Orlangbah or Yapo you have just earned another million leones from my private respect bank.
Your response takes me back to Winston Churchill who said:POLITICAL ABILITY IS THE ABILITY TO FORETELL TODAY,TOMORROW,NEXT TOMORROW,NEXT WEEK,NEXT MONTH,NEXT YEAR AND TO HAVE THE ABILITY AFTERWARDS TO EXPLAIN WHY IT DID NOT HAPPEN.
It is really cool for me and enlightening for the guy to learn why you went south in 2003 and north in 2007.
All the WHYs are logically placed. And the bottom line shows why KINGS are considered very wise:"THIS KING IS NOT WITH THE PARTY BUT THE PEOPLE". Nicely put! Go with the crowd or bend the direction the wind is blowing......if not you either get left out or get decimated by the wind as nothing can withstand the power of resisting wind which depends on the velocity.
The moral behind this should be something for SLLPers to meditate:THEY EITHER CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS THE NEW SALONE OR REMAIN IN THE POLITICAL 'BOMEH'FOREVER!
Subject: KABS, PLEASE SAVE SALONEANS, NOT THE SLPP, THE SHAME!!!
From: KING LOGGY
To: All
Date Posted: 02:28:55 01/20/08 ()
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President Ernest Koroma has lived according to precept , to the shame of the SLPP drum majors and detractors. Unlike the failure of the dethroned SLPP government to tell the Sierra Leonean people about gifts from Libya, President Koroma on Tuesday indicated that Libya had given Sierra Leone 4 tractors, 400 bags of rice, and 200 bags of flour .
In receiving the gifts , President Koroma thanked the Libyan leader , Col. Muamer Ghadaffi for his kind gesture and also praised him for helping to resolve conflicts in Africa.
Subject: Re: KABS, PLEASE SAVE SALONEANS, NOT THE SLPP, THE SHAME!!!
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 13:32:58 01/20/08 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Your Majesty KING LOGGY:
You are partially wrong in stating that:
"Unlike the failure of the dethroned SLPP government to tell the Sierra Leonean people about gifts from Libya, President Koroma on Tuesday indicated that Libya had given Sierra Leone 4 tractors, 400 bags of rice, and 200 bags of flour."
What is incorrect in your statement is that part that reported that the SLPP Government (of Tejan Kabbah) did not tell the people of Sierra Leone about Libyan gifts. For your information, President Kabbah did tell the people of Sierra Leone on radio, TV and in a press conference about of all Libyan gifts including rice, buses, etc. to our country.
Further, President Kabbah's statements re Libyan gifts were published in his State House website.
I am aware that Libya gave SL two ship loads of rice.
The said rice was properly and publicly announced and distributed at concessionary prices by the Ministry of Development to traders in all maintown markets nationwide as well as to individual buyers, including the then Opposition Leader now President, HE Ernest Koroma, who is reported as having purchased 1,000 bags at the time.
The funds collected from the rice sales were then used by the dethroned SLPP government to provide the capital funds for NASSIT - the old age insurance agency Kabbah set up. Further, Mr. Koroma, then an MP, was Chair of the Parliamentary Committee that had oversight of NASSIT. So he has the facts about Libyan rice gifts as well as the source of NASSIT's capitalization.
In 2006, Libya gave gifts of buses, etc. to our country. I was in Freetown when the news became public from official sources on radio, TV and the print media. Those buses now ply the routes from Targrin to beyond Conakry-Dee in Mahera Chiefdom and from Freetown to Makeni, Bo, Kenema and Kono.
The news about these gifts are all in the public domain.
Lastly and far more important, is that the significance about the attitude behind the Libyan gifts has been missed by many people impressed with petti-pat gifts like those of our forebears who sold their own people into slavery for consumables such as rum, tobacco, looking glass, gun powder (to catch more people for sale for rum), etc.
Who is Ghadafi to think he can pay us off with cocoa & ehbeh gifts notorious for their pettiness and meagerness?
Here is a man who used the resources of his country to export terrorism to our country over several years, thus ruining our people. He is the man who put Foday Sankoh, Sam Bockaries, Charles Taylor and Blaise Campoare in business and who trained and armed many other RUF commanders who led the massive slaughter of Sierra Leoneans - not to mention the theft and/or massive destruction of their property and country.
In 2000, Western Intelligence sources told me, that in 1999 alone six millions carats of diamonds mostly from Sierra Leone reached Antwerp via Monrovia (60%) and Wagadugu (40%), no doubt with the help of weapons, advice and nuturing provided by Libya.
Now, how much are six million carats of gemstones worth? How about the force labor used to mine those stones? How about the killings, maimings, rapings, arson, etc. that the terrorism produced?
In fact, Ghadafi was so involved in formenting and managing our so-called civil war that he was named as defendant Charles Taylor's unindicted co-conspirator for war crimes and crimes against humanity by the Special Court Prosecutor.
Yet we are taking coca ehbeh from him!
Ghadafi owes our people a deal more than mere bags of rice and flour, buses and tractors and other rubbish gifts. Too bad our former prez didn't care for my recommendations that some nations supported. Regards. JL
Subject: Re: KABS, PLEASE SAVE SALONEANS, NOT THE SLPP, THE SHAME!!!
From: KING LOGGY
To: All
Date Posted: 00:52:18 01/22/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
John:
Those are quotations from Cocorioko Newspaper.
Subject: Re: KABS, PLEASE SAVE SALONEANS, NOT THE SLPP, THE SHAME!!!
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 12:26:20 01/22/08 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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HM KING LOGGY:
By not clothing the phrase you borrowed in quotation marks, nor identifying the source from which you borrowed it, I assumed you had adopted the Cocorioko error as FACT for your own purposes.
Cocorioko is completely wrong in reporting that Prez Kabbah never notified our people of Libyan gifts. Kabbah did publicly and repeatedly publicize the Libyan gifts.
Moreover, Kabbah disclosed two shiploads of rice, not the one shipload as cocorioko erroneously reported.
Further, a suggestion in this forum that Prez Koroma was somehow involved in a scandal by buying some of the rice is pure rubbish.
NO scandal of any kind was ever involved at anytime in the Libyan rice matter or associated with it. The sale and disposition of the Libyan rice/oil gifts were all done in the glare of public scrutiny as well as the full cooperation of the public and was entirely lawful and properly accounted for in NASSIT.
Every Sierra Leone was entitled to purchase from the consignments and many, many Sierra Leoneans did partake of the opportunity lawfully and openly, including EBK. And our Ministry of Development has the records. Exercising your lawful right is not a scandal.
Believe me, I am no fan of Kabbah or his insiders but credit should always be given where credit is due - regardless! Further, I am willing to admit that Kabbah's SLPP administration committed a number of wrongs, either by commission or by omission, but the Libyan rice matter was certainly NOT one of them. Kabbah did the rice correctly from the beginning to the end.
All this, however, is child's play compared to the real issue of the need for realistic compensation for the Libyan- orchestrated war damage to Sierra Leoneans and their country.
Cocorioko editors should thus be smart enough to stop glorifying coco-ehbeh gifts especially in light of the enormity of our peoples' catastrophic sufferings under the leadership of Libyan-sponsored RUF, NPFL and Charles Taylor, etc. - JL
Subject: Re: KABS, PLEASE SAVE SALONEANS, NOT THE SLPP, THE SHAME!!!
From: Yaya Fanusie
To: All
Date Posted: 20:22:16 01/20/08 ()
Email Address: saigobe@lanset.com
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Message:
Brother John Leigh,
Last night I was at the birthday party for Hon. Sowe in Maryland. Forumite whose name I forgot said to me that is Moh Jalloh sisting over there. I told the forumite that I was going to talk to Moh. This is what happaned:
I approached Moh Jalloh and I said are you Mohamed Jalloh who writes all those rubbish and garbage in Cocorioko? I was very rude and hostile towards him. People on his table shocked. Mohamed did not stand up nor got angry he
said mildly " You had a lot to drink".
I said I am Yaya Fanusie and I wanted to prove a point.
I told him from my knowledge of him in various forums, you will be out of character to abuse or be insulting or rude to any one and I am surprised that John Leigh is always saying Moh is insulting or rude. Let me say this to you John; Moh's quack economics may be just that. Nonsense but Rude, abusive he is not.
I met Saidu Bangura. I will reveal what he said about Aleiu Iscandari later.
I do not believe that the postings attacking you with Moh Jalloh as the poster I believe are fakes.
Happy new year. I will email you later.
Yaya Fanusie
Subject: Re: KABS, PLEASE SAVE SALONEANS, NOT THE SLPP, THE SHAME!!!
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 11:07:35 01/21/08 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Message:
Dear Dr. Fanusi:
Thank you very much. In that case he need not worry, if at all, about my opinion of him.
As you know, my counters are directed at the idle ruders and low-lifers hiding cowardly behind multiple chicken monikers while attcaking me by name.
And by the way, I have accepted your earlier advice not to waste my time with such trash types.
I appreciate your very kind intervention and hope that the administration of this forum will in time improve sufficiently to keep out dysfunctional trouble makers while and promoting communications betwen serious people. Regards. - JL
PS: What concoction were you drinking at the Hon Sowe party?
Subject: Re: KABS, PLEASE SAVE SALONEANS, NOT THE SLPP, THE SHAME!!!
From: man pikin
To: All
Date Posted: 15:11:02 01/20/08 ()
Email Address: man_pikin@yahoo.com
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Message:
Mr. Leigh, can you tell us your recommendations to the former Prezo? Thanks
Subject: Re: KABS, PLEASE SAVE SALONEANS, NOT THE SLPP, THE SHAME!!!
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 11:35:28 01/21/08 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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(i) Sue Ghaddafi in US Courts for war damage.
(ii) Approve the litigation agreement that the SL DC Embassy had negotiated with a well-connected DC law firm to take the case on a contingent fee basis. The firm represented a consortium of US law firms willing to raise $100 million to fight the case on behalf of the poor people of Sierra Leone. - JL
Subject: Re: KABS, PLEASE SAVE SALONEANS, NOT THE SLPP, THE SHAME!!!
From: Bai Bureh
To: All
Date Posted: 13:44:46 01/20/08 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: c83-248-87-193.bredband.comhem.se at 83.248.87.193
Message:
I never heard of this.
Did you advice your party against Ghaddafi's overtures? Did you inform the people of Salone about the info you got from some so-called western intelligence sources?
By the way EBK only bought what Kabba sold to him and there is nothing wrong in buying when in need. now EBK has demonstrated what should be done to such 'GBOGBO' stuff. I hope your party will learn from this example.
Subject: Re: KABS, PLEASE SAVE SALONEANS, NOT THE SLPP, THE SHAME!!!
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 10:52:22 01/21/08 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Message:
Your Highness Bai Bureh:
I did provide our then government with 100% of the information in my possession at the time about Ghaddafi's role in our fake civil war.
(In my view, that so-called civil war was in its later stages nothing but a war of plunder; camouflaged as a civil war to prevent or at least frustrate, hinder and delay international intervention to terminate it, while the perpetrators profit and enjoy from our deep people's sufferings.)
I also recommended an approach to bring Ghaddafi to book so that he would be compelled to compensate SL war victims and our government billions of dollars for war damage, killings, rape, terrorism, etc. and the pain and sufferings endured by war victims and their survivors, keeping in mind the approach to the Lockerbie's PanAm disaster orchestrated by Libya and similar state-perpetrated damages situation.
For my pains in correctly directing attention to Ghaddafi's catastrophic role in SL, I was incorrectly labeled "undiplomatic" by a bunch of stupid, crooked but powerful insiders.
Some people in our party learned the Ghaddafi lesson
only when insiders' long-running flirtation with Ghaddafi backfired around the tail-end of the 2007 parliamentary and presidential campaigns. That's when the APC's highly effective hue and cry in the West and North became (please excuse the French):
"kahkah, wee nor wan yerri. Wey wee res?"
That cry was in reference to the two shiploads of rice which the government had announced in June 2005, then sold at concessionary prices in main markets around SL and the revenues thus obtained used to capitalize NASSIT and people might have forgotten about it and which APC campaign leaders used to manipulate voters.
Finally, no one is blaming EBK for anything. The way I see it, he is doing his utmost best to advance our nation's interests. And let's face it: it is not an easy road!
In the meantime, in order to properly distribute the recent gift of rice and flour, EBK will have to do it exactly as Prez Kabbah did: sell the consignment at concessionary prices in our markets. His other choice is to dish the gifts out at a rate of one or two teaspoonfuls per citizen around the entire country! What a costly, inefficient mess that would be! Thanks. - JL
Subject: Re: KABS, PLEASE SAVE SALONEANS, NOT THE SLPP, THE SHAME!!!
From: Freetownian
To: All
Date Posted: 06:25:41 01/21/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
A competent politician would have distance himself from such bargain. He would be expected to raise questions and bring it to the attention of the public.
My friend it was wrong of him to have bought the rice from Kabba. This means both EBK and Kabba are one and the same hence the reason why EBK will find it hard to fight corruption.
Subject: Re: KABS, PLEASE SAVE SALONEANS, NOT THE SLPP, THE SHAME!!!
From: Salone Police
To: All
Date Posted: 10:20:27 01/20/08 ()
Email Address: Salonepolice@hotmail.com
Entered From: adsl-75-53-198-238.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net at 75.53.198.238
Message:
So Kabs, do you have any idea when and how the 4 tractors, 400 bags of rice, and 200 bags of flour going to be distributed?
I would like to read your news report about how the Libya rice will be distributed and where the tractors will go.
Thank you for keeping us posted.
Subject: BEGGAR NATION?
From: KING LOGGY
To: All
Date Posted: 02:50:13 01/20/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
To praise Ghadafi for "helping to resolve conflicts in Africa after "4 tractors, 400 bags of rice, and 200 bags of flour" is NOT the road this president want to travel.
WHERE IS DA BRA WHEN WE NEED HIM?
Subject: Re: BEGGAR NATION?
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 16:02:37 01/20/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Your Excellency Ambassador John E. Leigh, glad to hear from you once more. You are a man I have known and have spent time with, in your office when you were Sierra Leone's Ambassador to the United States, therefore, you know me more than any one contributing on this forum. As I have said time and again, I have deep respect for you.
However, there are issues you outlined that I would like to take-up with you.
Let me start by saying that the article you read was not the work of King Loggy but that of the Cocorioko Newspaper. As such, he bares no responsibility to what is stated there but the proprietors of the paper who are Journalists, are the ones that bare such responsibilities.
Let me also remind you that as a one time diplomat, you have been entangled by such responsibility, disallowing you from making certain pronouncements as the ordinary person who has no diplomatic experience would. The latter would say anything with no consideration of impacts. But you became different immediately you took-up that position till the day you leave this earth. In that note, I would caution that you tone-down in making accusatory remarks especially when it comes to matters of Inter-state or International, if you will.
Many contributors here and other Sierra Leoneans across the board, you inclusive, can attest to the fact that I have been very interested in the affairs of our beloved country for many many years now. As such, I try as best as I could to keep my ears to the ground for news about happenings in the country, which will give me leverage to discuss and participate in her affairs with accuracy and confidence. Knowing that all Sierra Leoneans, including myself, should now take the bull-by-its-horn to save our beloved country by not leaving the responsibility of state affairs to governments. That is my civic responsibility, that is your civic responsibility and that is every Sierra Leonean's civic responsibility to contribute to salvaging Sierra Leone. Therefore, I thought it wise that we all should thrush our hats-in to making the necessary difference that Sierra Leone needs at this material time.
In that note therefore, contrary to what you claim about Ghaffi's contribution in our war, let me humbly state, for the record, that in all my readings, I have only found information on the role Libya played as host to rebels' training but I never found where direct accusations were made against, nor any slight implications that Col. Muamar Qaddafi played any significant role towards launching, supporting and harboring rebels in Sierra Leone's rebel movement. In which case, you as a one time diplomat must know that such accusations must be carefully examined to prevent bad blood from developing.
Besides Libya, other African countries and people within these were named for making transactions with rebels, Mosquito Bockari, Sgt. Foday Sankoh and some of his stalwarts were said to have had transactions in gem with them. But just that the people they had transctions with were in Antwerp or Burkina Faso, must not be seen as a signal for blaming Blaise Compouri as a suspect or promoter of the war just because these people lived in his country or because some of the transactions took place in his country. The same way certain things were happening in Sierra Leone during the war and under the S.LP.P. leadership of President Kabba should not misconstrued as President Kabbah being responsible for these acts.
The Kamajor's recruitment of child soldiers is a violation of certain charters under the Geneva Convention but those held responsible for such violation were the people who directly participated and not President Kabbah because he was President of Sierra sLeone when these things happened.
Moving on, let me also remind you that what Col. Ghadafi did was a gesture to our country because of sympathy that our people have been living in sub-human conditions as such, and as a Philanthropist, who believes in giving arms (jakat,) it is his responsibility, a responsibility ordained and commanded by God to every man who can make a difference in people's lives to do. Besides the desire to fulfill what God had mandated him to do, he is not obligated to render any help to Sierra Leone; help that he could have rendered to other African nations and or Third World nations, those undergoing similar or worst plight than us. For his unselfish gesture, I would hope and I think, it is obligatory on our part to say thank you. We want to go down in record as the unappreciative nation, an ungrateful bunch. No we don't! He has his own nation to rule and care for but some people see the world as a family and their responsibility to render help, which only makes them human. This is why the United Nations was formed.
I saw and read the news about the rice in the S.L.P.P. government web site but what baffled me was the denial that these gifts were ever received. But as that is or should be behind us now, I think as people who love their country and are yearning for change, we must start giving support to change when we see one.
In that light therefore, I would say that President Koroma has started the march on a good footing. The world is watching him and us. If he is playing his part, we must play our parts as well and stop the finger-pointing and stop seeing politics and politicians as enemies. We are compatriots who wish to see Sierra Leone advance but we can never fulfill such a burning desire should we see ourselves as enemies or people who are ducking to see where the other goes wrong.
I hope my piece of advice is received in good fate as I close.
Once again, please calm down and be watchful of what you say so that it cannot be used against you in coming years.
Thank you for indulging me and good to hear from you.
Subject: Re: BEGGAR NATION?
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 14:09:26 01/21/08 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Dear Mr. Bambay Lans Kamara:
I completely disagree with the points you've articulated about my responsibility as a former diplomat. You are totally wrong and poorly informed!
Crooked officials at times use issues of confidentiality as a ruse to hide their huge crimes against our people. In this regard, nothing I have said violates any committment I have undertaken. In fact, I have a responsibility to do whatever I can to make our country a much better place.
Ghaddafi was named by the Special Court Prosecutor as Taylor's co-conspirator in the latter's criminal activities that ruined our people and country. This information is in the public domain. Please go to the Special Court website and read all about it.
As for KING LOGGY he can speak for humself. I was merely replying to what he specifically wrote. And merely because the quoted statement was published in cocorioko's front page does not mean it is 100% accurate or it is the complete story. Thank you. - JL
Subject: WHY IS MBALU SO SILENT NOW?
From: Pedrodacintra
To: All
Date Posted: 00:57:10 01/20/08 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
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Was she for real? Was she just another bragadiccio? With all the hype one thought she can make it at least to the back page of Newsweek magazine! What really went wrong with Mbalu's mission? Was she scaredstiff at the sight of the Soweis and so had to quickly put her long tail between her legs and made for the city hotel? Come on guys this lady should provide an explanation.If indeed she played a bravado then she has seriously dented her credibility as well as her reputation.
Subject: Re: WHY IS MBALU SO SILENT NOW?
From: Aminata Dumbuya
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Date Posted: 05:28:15 01/20/08 ()
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I am beginning to believe that Mbalu was a male chauvinist nasquerading as a female. She was not real at all. I can't hit the archives right now, but there were inconsistencies in her tale. First she said she was already in Freetown for the Christmas break and had collected data which she was going to post shortly, on the forum, for a preview. That never happened. Then when some of us asked what was going on a few weeks later, she strangely responded that she was at Kennedy trying to find her luggage and was on her way to Freetown. I thought that was bizarre!
Subject: Re: WHY IS MBALU SO SILENT NOW?
From: med
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Date Posted: 08:33:31 01/20/08 ()
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What next?
Subject: Re: WHY IS MBALU SO SILENT NOW?
From: Huratu
To: All
Date Posted: 03:47:57 01/21/08 ()
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Both Aminata Dumbuya and Mballu were created from the rib bones of an outstanding lawyer posting regularly on this forum. "Tok haf, lef haf," grandma used to advise me at Mountain Cut.
Subject: Re: WHY IS MBALU SO SILENT NOW?
From: LOW GRADE SAN SAN
To: All
Date Posted: 08:15:36 01/21/08 ()
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Ha ! i love this place. I honestly thought that Sister Mbalu was a prof. in Kpaguima LOL
Subject: LET'S SURGE!
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 00:07:32 01/20/08 ()
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The newest lollipop that politicians in Washington are licking like crazy is the word SURGE. Eversince President Bush determined that a SURGE could help solve the Iraq problem, most of the world's politicians have come to believe that for every problem there is a solution in a SURGE!
The economy is misfiring? Let's solve that problem with a $145 billion SURGE in the economy.
The Israelis and the Palestinians are not playing nice with each other? Let's have a SURGE of diplomacy.....and to entice Arab dictators and feudal kings to support the peace process? Why not hold our nose and SURGE them with glowing tributes for their tireless dedication to democratic principles?
Slum dwellers pissed-off with Mwai Kibaki for stealing their ballots? Problem solved with a SURGE of brutal policemen who shoot at their own shadows and ask questions later.
Salone's economic darkness that gets on EBK's nerves? Let's have a SURGE in electricity that even the most battish SLPP night-dweller can appreciate.
Subject: Why does SLPP hate to be defeated ?
From: Karmoh Soko
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Date Posted: 16:52:27 01/19/08 ()
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Why does slpp hate defeat ? Is it because of APC ? Is it because they love too much power ?Why when SLPP is defeated, there is always trouble ?
Subject: Re: Why does SLPP hate to be defeated ?
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 05:03:42 01/20/08 ()
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Power sweet.
Should you love to be defeated?
In the higher SLPP quarters there has been talk of treachery and traitors.
Hon Berewa ha said,
�I can never blaspheme against my God. I was speaking of betrayal by friends whom I had trusted implicitly and who turned out to be traitors. I expressed that even Jesus who was God had placed his trust in people who turned out to be traitors and so a mere mortal like me could be forgiven for misplacing my trust in undeserving people. I will not imagine myself ever using blasphemous language against my church, my faith and my saviour Jesus whom I worship.�
It is a complicated affair to be Solomon Berewa.
Subject: Re: Why does SLPP hate to be defeated ?
From: Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 17:38:29 01/19/08 ()
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The question is Why does APC hate democracy? When Slpp was in power , they allowed criticisms by the media and musicians. With APC , no one should criticise Ernest , We should worship him and kiss his feet eventhough he is blundering.
Subject: Re: Why does SLPP hate to be defeated ?
From: Saidu Daphay Turay
To: All
Date Posted: 08:04:04 01/20/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Mr. Kamara,
APC never hated democracy. The power greed and egoism of SLPP led to Siaka Stevens introducing one party system of government which was not only his making but a trend that African nations were pursuing for the sake of unification that was threatened by tribal divides. Indeed, it worked for Sierra Leone because of die-hard SLPP fanatics were on board during the reign of Siaka Stevens. Joseph Saidu Momoh re-introduced multi-party system, consequently it was short-lived when the NPRC under the tutelage and auspices of SLPP urshered in dictatorship and consequently, transferred power to SLPP through a quasi elections that didn't represent the people of Sierra Leone because many parts of the country was inaccessible becasue of rebel control. Although too soon to judge about Ernest Koroma's democratic principles, there is an adage that says "you can tell a ripe corn by its looks." barely five months in power Ernest is doing things that the SLPP party that received millions of hard currencies had not done. Prine Harding and former junta leader, Maada Bio who threatened to overthrow the government of the APC is part of entourage with Ernest to Burkina Faso. More will be seen by the SLPP in subsequent years. I believe the SLPP will abandone their party and be part of the new democratic dispensation of the APC.
Subject: Re: Why does SLPP hate to be defeated ?
From: Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 11:24:28 01/20/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Stop dreaming saidu, the mainstream SLPP will not abandon their party for Ernest's Bombali,PortLoko,Tonkolili APC. Only the oppurtunists who destroyed SLPP under Kabba will run to APC.
Look Ernest has not shown an successes yet, Eventhough he means well for Sierra Leone. Well meaning and good intentions will not solve Sierra Leone's problems. All we have heard is promises and propaganda. We heard so much criticism of the SLPP on yenga. What has Ernest & APC done on Yenga. Big fat nothing.
The electicity is a scam. No one would really expect Ernest to provide continuous electricity in Freetown in just 90 days when previous goverments have neglected and even looted the nation's electrical infrastructure. So I cannot realistically expect APC to produce continuous electricity to Freetown within two years in power. The truth is Freetown is only getting intermittent electricity despite all the APC propanganda. I will give Ernest B- for trying. Next time, Ernest should not make promises he cannot keep.
Look APC does not know democracy even if it hit them in the face. Please show me a democratic election that was held under the APC. Or were they all a thugfest full of Gbose Gbose people.
Look, My brother, Ernest may mean well.But APC will implode and return to the old ways
Subject: Re: Why does SLPP hate to be defeated ?
From: Saidu Daphay Turay
To: All
Date Posted: 12:03:26 01/20/08 ()
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Mr. Kamara,
It is too soon to judge Ernest's good intentions for Sierra Leone. Can you tell me a good track record of the SLPP since its assume the mantle of authority in Sierra Leone? Don't tell me about ending the rebel war which they sponsored and even created a militia (Kamajors)which they also destroyed for fear of been hunted by their evil deeds. Remember, this is not time for imputing or pointing fingers for problems in Sierra Leone. As the saying goes " if you point a finger at someone four fingers are pointing back to you." All of us Sierra Leoneans either by ommission or commision may have contributed to the problems of that country. What we need now is rallying around someone who has good intentions for the country. Politics, rhetoric and partisan affiliations has failed us, what Sierra Leone needs now is tapping the potential of citizens to move the nation ahead.
Subject: Re: Why does SLPP hate to be defeated ?
From: Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 17:55:11 01/20/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
SLPP held democratic elections in their tenure and
relinquished power and could have easily found ways to frustrate the NEC and stay in power like Mwai Kibaki in Kenya. Mind you, APC never held a democratic election.
SLPP left hundreds of millions of dollars in the the govt's kitty which the pitifull APC govt is wasting on travelling delegations and advisors. How much money did the kleptocratic momoh leave in the govt's kitty.
Saidu, You are right this is not a time for pointing fingers. I hope you can give the APC fanatics this advice. The reality ,is no govt or politician can solve Sierra Leone's problems all they can do is to create a safe environment where Sierra Leoneans and foreigners can risk their resources to bring economic development. Resources in the ground are no use, if you have to capital to exploit it with.
Tell your APC fanatics, the elections are over and SLPP lost. There is no need for the oneupmanship. It is not a competition. Just deliver and APC will be praised. So far they have delivered nothing to the nation. I know it is early to judge at this point.
Subject: Re: Why does SLPP hate to be defeated ?
From: concern
To: All
Date Posted: 05:32:38 01/21/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
so-called Kamra, no way your SLPP would have remained in power. The shout for a change was persistent and it would have been disastrous if, your statement is anthing to take home.
Remember that the security forces were dedicated in their duty. Solomon Berewa told the world how his security man was manhandled in his face.
Christiana Thorpe is the heroine. She averted the destruction and untold misery that would have fallen in the country.
kailaihun was the only place where you were in control to rig. Can you do yourself a favour and ask Hindolo Momoh Nyallay, Minah, Daddy SAJ what happened to them when they tried to steal ballot papers?
Freetown was a battle ground where all your actions to rig the elections were exposed.
The youths guard polling booths and open their eyes at every area you used to steal their votes.
It shows how weak the SLPP was to allow an opposition to rig. You know the APC won the elections fairly. Sore losers like you always think that the SLPP has all it takes to win heart and mind in Sierra Leone. Your SLPP abused and molested ordinary sierra leoneans. The SLPP should talk about plans to restructure its tribalistic party and tries to bring in its fold patriotic Sierra Leoneans. Now we have known that you cherish foreigners over true Sierra leoneans, you will never win a democratic elctions again in Sierra Leone. We will be watching the SLPP closely because it is an evil party that wishes bad for Sierra Leone.
Subject: Re: Why does SLPP hate to be defeated ?
From: kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 07:03:21 01/21/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
So called concern , APc is the last to talk about democracy and tribalism. APC does not know democracy if it hit them in the face. Just look at the tribally based cabinet of Ernest Koroma. If I did not know, I would think, Ernest was President of Bombali,Tonkolilli and Port loko. Please talk to Ernest and tell him we dont want to be ruled by another Ekutay clique.
Sierra Leoneans will wake up and see who the real tribalists are as APC continues on a tribal cleansing path electing Temnes and Limbas to all the positions.
Face the fact , so called concern, Apc won because Charles Margai split the Southern vote or else APC would be in the pits where they belong.
Subject: Re: Why does SLPP hate to be defeated ?
From: Leonean
To: All
Date Posted: 17:17:16 01/19/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Who loves to be defeated,you? Some contributions to this forum are so lame and dumb that one starts to wonder whether the backwardness of Sierra Leone is not directly related to the stupidity of its people
Subject: Re: Why does SLPP hate to be defeated ?
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 19:53:20 01/19/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Greetings my brothers and sisters. Leonean you stated "Who loves to be defeated,you? Some contributions to this forum are so lame and dumb that one starts to wonder whether the backwardness of Sierra Leone is not directly related to the stupidity of its people."
That is the very observation I would have made but I would have restricted my observation to portioning blame to the few Sierra Leoneans who celebrate character-flows, as the ones who are leading Sierra Leone backward.
No individual, group, party or nation likes to be defeated but it takes an honorable person to acknowledge defeat. It is also premature and unfair, I would think, to make any meaningful criticism of the A.P.C. under President Earnest Bai Koroma at this time when they have been in office barely three hundred days (300) out of a whole term, which is five years. Doing so will be considered a rush judgment that almost all here have underwent rudimental training against.
However, most Sierra Leoneans do not believe that good character and integrity is the upright way to live-by. This is what is exemplified in most of the writings that have disgusted you. Well, I have been bewildered by the same, and most, not until I saw those behind the writings, saw the character they exhibit before I could resolve the dismay. What I saw in them compared to the Sierra Leoneans that I know is non-admirable. Their standards are far too different as night and day.
Go back to the archive of this forum to see what character is displayed by most Sierra Leoneans. This forum is an assemblage of people from enviable positions and professions. Some of you are Accountants, Businessmen, Doctors, Lawyers, Politicians, Students to name a few. But what distinguishes everyone here is the character and integrity exhibited in their postings. This distinguished character and integrity is what gives me the confidence and courage that I can make a difference and can post here the way I am and have been for the past eleven years going to twelve. Which is why I sometimes dismiss some people in their bid to sell ideas by mechanisms rich in character-flows. To me, these do not represent quality people with high standards worth emulating or whose actions and words I can bother to reflect on. I have no drudge or anger towards them because they do not have the character and integrity worth begrudging. In that their words and actions are not character rich. These do not celebrate high integrity as such they are followers and do not have a speck of character that might fan the dust off my shoulder. We do not represent the same inept and character models. I, on the other hand, value people with good character and integrity while they do not. These are the ones that read highly intellectual inputs but do not have the character to see the worthiness of education as long as the one they have, marinated with tasteless character does not per the former. Therefore, I live them to languor in their character flows, which I am not bothered-by as long as they respect my constitutional rights.
Nonetheless, as members of aspiring professions and good character, I believe it is essential to think in circumference of like-minded individuals, the ranks-and-file of people, no matter where they reside in this world, as long as they are people that celebrate enviable character not hoodlums who think that the exhibit of disingenuous, fallacious and disreputable characters full of lies, dishonesty, hate and jealousy even when the world is watching, rumor-mongering and wanting to be in the forefront by any means by dragging others down is a model that the entire world identify with. The wealth of our education mandates us to live by good character full of integrity.
By and large, I would admonish you to teach, which takes courage, patience, perseverance, sacrifice and tolerance because most Sierra Leoneans have patterned themselves after wrong doing. Failing to realize that wrong is wrong no matter if the one wronged knows or not. But it takes an amiable character to understanding the difference and dealing with it to make a change.
Let me close by saying that no one likes to be defeated but it takes a man with character to acknowledge a genuine defeat and that it is too premature to give bad criticism to the A.P.C under President Koroma being that they have been in office barely 300 days out of a whole term, which is four years. Within this period they have made a remarkable leap that we are to celebrate and give them the push they desire to do more. Burrhus Frederic Skinner , an American Psychologist's theory of opperant conditioning must be observed here if we are to win as a team. Punishing the party for a job well done will only diminish their potential to do more; that is if they are weak and inept people. But as I am aware that they have our people at heart, I am confident they will do their best to push Sierra Leone out of the backwardness except if I should not trust all Sierra Leoneans because of few bad apples who think like criminals and believe that criminal act is fashionable and that will lure me to emulating them. Those that view life from their shallow conrners and thinking rather than a global overview. Those do not worth my salt. I have confidence in the President and team. The ball is in our court as nationals that should buck-up and put elections behind us because we have a long road ahaead of us. Do you have the character and integirty I have. This is not the end but the beginning.
Go figure!
Subject: Re: Why does SLPP hate to be defeated ?
From: Help is available
To: All
Date Posted: 18:53:18 01/19/08 ()
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Message:
leonean, you obviously need remedial help in basic english to understand participants in
this forum. Self education is available in most parts of the world. Please make use of it.
Subject: Re: Why does SLPP hate to be defeated ?
From: Leonean
To: All
Date Posted: 21:19:41 01/19/08 ()
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Message:
Pathetic and mediocre contribution that is not even worth a rebuttal. It is exactly imbeciles like you parading as enlightened Sierra Leoneans that have downgraded this forum.
Subject: Re: Why does SLPP hate to be defeated ?
From: MSK
To: All
Date Posted: 08:34:53 01/20/08 ()
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Message:
Leonean reminds me of our other friend that goes out of character when dosed with
some reality check. I have not read a meaningful contribution by Leonean, but he often
jumps in to criticize others. Your criticisms are mostly meaningless. I hope you are not
an angry man that needs more than talking therapy; Prozac and other psych meds are
readily available to help in your shortcomings. Do not hesitate, ask for help and you
shall receive. By the way, your responses to Cole and others are absolute garbage. The
scary thing about it is you fail to understand what LANS is telling you. We sit here
laughing at your stupidity and ongoing "bucket list" syndrome. Most of us know who
you are with the Leonean moniker. We will unmask you from the west coast. Thanks
again my friend, LANS.
Subject: Re: Why does SLPP hate to be defeated ?
From: Leonean
To: All
Date Posted: 10:03:02 01/20/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Your psychosis does not even require medical intervention,it is genetic. Stem cell may do the trick if your miserable life is worth it, in say 10 years. In the interim, continue writing the trash you call ideas.
Subject: Re: Why does SLPP hate to be defeated ?
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 20:20:06 01/19/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Look at that rudeness and ignorance displayed here. Would you respond to such a nuisance and nincompoop who would just say whatever he or she wants to say with regard to discipline and character?
Subject: Re: Why does SLPP hate to be defeated ?
From: Leonean
To: All
Date Posted: 21:22:33 01/19/08 ()
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Message:
Bambay, thanks for your piece. I am encouraged that there are still some analytical minds left on this forum. Not just blind followers
Subject: Phillip Neville to face TAX evasion and fraud charges
From: KALOS
To: All
Date Posted: 12:18:42 01/19/08 ()
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Message:
Phillip Neville and Standard Times will cry wolf and witch hunt next week when asked to respond to alleged tax fraud. Mr. Chameleon will again ignite the attack machine against EBK, APC, the new NRA chief and anything to distract the core issue of government TAX evasion.
No doubt, COCORIOKO and Standard Times were instrumental in promoting the agenda of EBK and APC that propelled them to the new administration in Sierra Leone. We admire, appreciate and revere the posture these two honorable media outlets took for the relevance of democracy and simple civility. I hope history will be kind in tabulating their immense contributions. However, any emerging democracy should not allow these contributions to dictate the appointments of government officials. Mr. Neville has provided more recommendations for government appointments to President Koroma than any other individual. Yes, there were some appointments based in part on the recommendations of Mr. Neville and others. Mr. Neville grew out of conviction when the NRA position was not offered to his pal �candidate�.
Alas there is a leader in Sierra Leone that will not be intimidated by the vicious and malicious pen of a Neville type. My admiration of KABS KANU is quenching and square-rooted on a daily basis. We called him derogatory names and marginalized him for not complaining or aggressive enough in asking for a government appointment and more over for not turning the journalism sword against the young government. The Rev. remain a cooler head and a source of wisdom for the ultimate purpose of giving the president additional time to do what is right for the country and a realization he is our leader. Mr. Neville is no KABS KANU. I know that and thanks very much.
Subject: Re: Phillip Neville to face TAX evasion and fraud charges
From: LOW GRADE SAN SAN
To: All
Date Posted: 08:29:27 01/20/08 ()
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Message:
Boy ! oh boy, former apc "misinformercer" Neville now to face TAX evasion and fraud charges? This is not going to end in tears as in the case of the slpp detaining him for a few hours at a police station for incitement over the Libyan rice fiasco.
I only hope the recommendation made by the constitution review committee on the death penalty for treason will be ratified by Parliament asap.Because i can see the drift here.
It is definitely going to end in BLOOD, Mafanta, for treason. For daring to write against this New tribalistic apc. Hmmmmm the ghost of Pa. Shaki is surely smiling in state house. New APC? Sounds like Gen. Momoh's New Order to me. Neville u betteh set u mot.
Subject: Re: Phillip Neville to face TAX evasion and fraud charges
From: Leonean
To: All
Date Posted: 14:44:24 01/19/08 ()
Email Address:
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So what is your point? This is a very good example of poor writing. Disjointed sentences without a clearly discernable subject matter or trend of thoughts. Topic unrelated to contents of article.
Subject: Re: Phillip Neville to face TAX evasion and fraud charges
From: Moses Kamara
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Date Posted: 19:18:25 01/19/08 ()
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The statements may be "disjointed" in your shallow judgement because you were not following the
full discussion about PN the past few weeks. Read Sherman's article, Fen Plaba's contributions,
Standard Times and others.
Subject: Re: Phillip Neville to face TAX evasion and fraud charges
From: Leonean
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Date Posted: 21:33:02 01/19/08 ()
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I do not have the idle time to delve into forum archives and many of us do not. But I know that any article starting a post should be complete in itself. About my judgement being "shallow," no comment. Opinions are like butt holes, even idiots have one.
Subject: Re: Phillip Neville to face TAX evasion and fraud charges
From: DeLaw
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Date Posted: 15:49:39 01/19/08 ()
Email Address: contehlawrence@yahoo.com
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Man,that is a hard and cold but objective comment.You sound like a prof.I need not ask what grade you have in mind.Don't be too hard on us,your students.
Subject: Blaise Compaori Concerned About Rebel Movement?
From: Saidu Daphay Turay
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Date Posted: 08:18:02 01/19/08 ()
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IF outgoing Ecowas ECowas Chairman, Notorious Blaise Compaori of Burkin Faso is expressing concerns about rebel movement in West Africa, then the region is heading towards stability and prosperity. If this statement by the god-father of macenaries and gun-running in distabilising Liberia, Sierra Leone, Guinea and lately Ivory Coast is apologectic then it is incumbent upon him to come out publicly and apologize to the people of these nations. Blaise Campaori, god-son of Charles Taylor is in the Hague for crimes against humanity. The destruction of lives and property which Blaise Campaori helped to sponsor in the sub-region is still a living memory which cannot be forgotten so easily. It is an act of hypocrisy for this French agent of destruction and distabilization, without remorse of conscience to raise concern about rebel movemnets in the region which he helped to support and financed.
Subject: Re: Blaise Compaori Concerned About Rebel Movement?
From: REBEL
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Date Posted: 10:14:06 01/19/08 ()
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Why should he be concerned.He himself is a Rebel and played great roles during allthe crises in West Africa.
Subject: Re: Blaise Compaori Concerned About Rebel Movement?
From: kamara
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Date Posted: 08:23:15 01/19/08 ()
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saidu, the man is afraid of going to hague as is Zimbabwe's Mugabe. He has to do his mea culpas and damage control now. May be France might protect him from going to Hague.
Subject: Re: Blaise Compaori Concerned About Rebel Movement?
From: POLITICAL
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Date Posted: 22:20:40 01/19/08 ()
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With respect, can you tell me why Mugabe should go to the Hague?
Subject: Re: Blaise Compaori Concerned About Rebel Movement?
From: kamara
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Date Posted: 23:55:54 01/19/08 ()
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Because of the atrocities he is currently perpetrating on his fellow citizens. He is mindful of potentially being tried in Hague,He will fight tooth and nail to stay in power till death.
Subject: Re: Blaise Compaori Concerned About Rebel Movement?
From: Fen Plaba!
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Date Posted: 00:13:16 01/20/08 ()
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Before Blaise is shipped off to the Hague for being a godfather to Foday Sankoh, he needs to be tried for the treachery of murdering his best friend Thomas Sankara in cold blood.
Subject: CRAZY STUFF FROM SWEDEN!
From: Fen Plaba!
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Date Posted: 07:34:46 01/19/08 ()
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Sex bomb gives off bad vibrations
Published: 16 Jan 08 22:55 CET
Online: http://www.thelocal.se/9678/
Residents of Gothenburg were able to breathe a collective sigh of relief on Wednesday after a suspicious device turned out not to be a bomb but a vibrating sex toy.
Bomb disposal experts were called to the north west of the city on Wednesday after a concerned janitor called the police.
While out sweeping rubbish from a parking lot, he had noticed a small parcel moving about in a most unusual manner.
Police arriving at the scene immediately sealed off the area and called in the bomb squad.
A recent spate of infighting among rival gangs has put police in the city on high al3rt. But on this occasion the infamous west coast biker gangs can probably be ruled out of the equation.
When, having excerised great care, the explosives experts finally got the package open they discovered nothing more dangerous than a throbbing vibrator.
Relieved police officers were able to remove the cordons before taking the battery-operated toy to the local station.
"But we don't really expect anybody to come asking for it," spokesman Jan Stranneg�rd told G�teborgs-Posten.
TT/The Local (news@thelocal.se/08 656 6518)
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Subject: Re: CRAZY STUFF FROM SWEDEN!
From: KALOS
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Date Posted: 11:02:14 01/19/08 ()
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OK, FP Orlangba! Now you are taking us to a somehow imaginary world that is dicy. How did you stumble to this story? Very interesting to read you on a saturday morning.
Subject: Re: CRAZY STUFF FROM SWEDEN!
From: Bai Bureh
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Date Posted: 08:06:58 01/19/08 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
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How u don get swedish woman? U wan leh ar know say u don get interest now nar Sweden? This nor to big news nar Gothenburg at all.
Subject: Re: CRAZY STUFF FROM SWEDEN!
From: Fen Plaba!
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Date Posted: 09:08:53 01/19/08 ()
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Bai Bureh wait nor mor. Ar dae cam nar Sweden dis Summer for small backpacking. To fulfil the #39 on the 150 things to do before I die: Wrestle with a Viking princess. Heeeeeeeey!
Subject: Is Cocorioko website down ?
From: News Reader
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Date Posted: 06:56:46 01/19/08 ()
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I seem to be having problems accessing Cocorioko.Am I the only one ?
Subject: THE TRUTH BE SAID
From: T THOLLEY
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Date Posted: 06:46:32 01/19/08 ()
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IF CHRISTIANA THORPE HAD NOT BEEN BRAVE AND HAD BOWED DOWN TO BEREWA SIERRA LEONE WOULD HAVE GONE UP IN FLAMES.
THE KENYAN ELECTORAL COMMISSIONER SHOULD SHOULD BE INDICTED WITH CHARGES OF FRAUD AND ELECTORAL MAL PRACTICES.
Subject: The SLPP MUST seriously contemplate on NORTHERNISATION!
From: Bai Bureh
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Date Posted: 03:20:26 01/19/08 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
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Being a bunch of ignorantuses they are busy bashing EBK for northernisation left right and centre.Any unfavourable appointment(by their standards) will draw sharp reactions from these sore losers.Yet still they are not wise enough to realise that the solution to their leadership problems lies with northernisation itself.The biggest problem with the SLPP at the moment is chosing a leader that will be acceptable to all Sierra Leoneans come 2012.Who will that be? It can't be a mende or madingo again!It is indeed a hard choice!
The SLPP should think of taking the party back to its roots;they should think about taking the party back to the north;they should think of freeing it from the grips of those tribalistic mendes who hijacked the party to the south-east.The SLPP should not only be mende- and south-east -free but also northern-oriented to appeal to the mainstream Sierra Leoneans or else I foresee the party in oblivion for the next twenty or thirty years.
Subject: Re: The SLPP MUST seriously contemplate on NORTHERNISATION!
From: ITK
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Date Posted: 10:21:02 01/19/08 ()
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Amazing that you guys go on analyzing (and in most cases over-analyzing) the SLPP. Mark my word, the APC will be out of power in 2012 because of all the arrant nonsense its supporters spew in discusions such as this. They clearly show that they do not understand the dynamics of politics. The SLPP does not need to take its party anywhere. It is and probably will continue to be a much more refined and attractive party than all of the alternatives. Consider this: Given the specific nature of the last election campaign (fundamental mistakes by the SLPP; a non-substantive, negative appeal to obvious emotive issues by the APC issues; and the expected PMDC split of votes in the SLPP stronghold), the APC should have trounced the SLPP. It did not, not even close. The electorate barely pushed a limping APC accross the finish line. The electorate (understandably) voted more for change than it endorsed the leadership of the APC -- voting at the parliamentary level was largely a "tribal/regional/ethnic" affair . Well, this is what the best APC minds should be focusing on, not trying to re-invent or rehabilitate the SLPP. I chuckle every time I read reports of the "demise" of the SLPP or its characterization as a party in "oblivion".
Frankly, I would not call any one of the SLPP, APC or PMDC an examplar of a well-run and effective political party. But of the three, I would take the SLPP any day. The SLPP lost an election it should have won and has learnt from that. It will win and lose elections going forward(as all parties do)by how it runs its campaigns.
Word to the wies: 2102 is a lot closer than we think.
Subject: Re: The SLPP MUST seriously contemplate on NORTHERNISATION!
From: nico
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Date Posted: 06:28:16 01/19/08 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
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Your proposal is sensible. I however think that such a process should not be done through political appeasement or opportunism. The party has very loyal and traditional SLPP northern based supporters, many of them were oppressed by the late S I Koroma's APC because they were by far educated and could have claimed true emerging leadership from the north than he was. People like the Conteh's in Makeni, Yumkellas, Adekali Modu, the late A B Kamara who was harassed in to serving with his oppressors-old APC.
I have been very foresighted on the issue you have raised. At the time when Tejan Kabba, Charles Margai and Chief Yumkella first contested for the party leadership, Yumkella was my choice even though am a mende.
I put forward the same argument that you have suggested now, that "for the SLPP to gain a broader electoral appeal, it has to take the party to the north" West Africa Magazine.
Let there be no mistake, the APC snatched a victory from a possible defeat at the hands of the incumbent, dealt a crippling blow to the SLPP party moral and it future electability.
The SLPP has to be honest with itself, look in to how they have been used to doing things and bring in fundamental changes to appeal to the mainstream Sierra Leonean voters.
It does not take much for any serious minded analylist to question the wisdom of the SLPP leadership in their policies and arrogance. This is a party that had previously lost power to the opposition in 1967 because of the infighting and divisions.
The party did not find out why it happened and what could be put in place by way of sensible policies and approach to avoid a repeat. Instead what we saw then, in the aftermath of 1967 were blame game, name callings and scapegoating, mostly directed by those who benefitted from the changed regime at the aggrieved who refused to participate in the old APC.
Political observers warned and predicted that history would repeat itself in 2007 when the same infighting raised it ugly head, a conflict that was nurtured and fermented by Tejan Kabba himself.
But, my friend, the SLPP of today are largely egoistic bunch of oppoutunists who lack strategic thinking and vision. Look at the way the executive is conducting the affairs of the party since they lost the election. The current executive is damn oblivious of the fact that the party is facing a multiple major problems of leadership, electability, trust among the people in Sierra Leone and the very important element of progressive democracy within the party itself.
The party's predicament will be compounded when the APC government began to deliver on their promises and the people began to see some real improvement in their lives in contrast to the 11 wasted years of bogus, untrust promises from Tejan Kabba.
The recent SLPP conference in Bo, rather than began to address some of the longterm problems the party will be face, from a strategic perceptives, had placed premium instead on a futile- retrogrades actions such as contesting the election result that was widely attested by the international election monitors as free and fair.
In my opinion, the first debate any national party could and should have engaged in the post election, is to conduct a feronsic examination of why the party lost the election by setting up an independent committe.
The starting point to such an investigation is to revist what type of leadership they had, its policies, why the party became divided and allowed itself to go into an election divided and expect to win,and what should be done not only to avoid reoccurence but to draw from that experence a vision that set out a blue print to bounce back in to power.
The SLPP must avoid creating a situation where it is perceived by Sierra Leonean and the international communities as a protest party refusing to co-operate with the government of the day where necessary for national development.
The party should instead come up with a clear strategy to energise on ways to expose the government failings and try to win the nation that the government elected on a change platform is, in fact, fostering policies that undermines the unity , peace and progress- not what the people voted for.
But a party that is not used to parliamentary opposition should think deep and set its priorities right. At this time, the current executive is leading the party in the wrong directions- not different from where they were before the election. Lonta
Subject: Re: The SLPP MUST seriously contemplate on NORTHERNISATION!
From: ITK
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Date Posted: 10:46:11 01/19/08 ()
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This is arrant nonsense. Read my response to Bai Bureh above for more detail.
Your analysis is way off-kilter, and I would not even know where to begin addressing it. You do make one sensible point: If EBK delivers, the APC will be re-elected. Not only is that obvious, but when it becomes the mantra of those supporting the APC it really raises red flags for me. Even my 3 year old nephew could come up with that profound statement-- and he knows nothing about Salone politics. You guys need to strip your analysis of all the excess verbiage. Take a page from the inimitable Salone musicians-- simple and straight to the point. As the APC has been warned: IF Una Shake, We GO Rap.
A word to the wise...
P.S. By the way, parties are by nature divisive. I trust you have read the Federalist Papers. If the SLPP runs an effective, modern campaign it will trounce the APC (even if the APC delivers).
Subject: Re: The SLPP MUST seriously contemplate on NORTHERNISATION!
From: nico
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Date Posted: 12:46:57 01/19/08 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
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"You do make one sensible point: If EBK delivers, the APC will be re-elected. Not only is that obvious, but when it becomes the mantra of those supporting the APC it really raises red flags for me. Even my 3 year old nephew could come up with that profound statement-- and he knows nothing about Salone politics."
ITK
Thank you for agreeing with my "profound statement". I note, however, that your problem is because you assumed the above quoted statement came form an APC supporters. I am not, never had been and will never be. I am probably more SLPP than you can claim. Also extend my congratulation to your 3 year old nephew who like me is capable of making a profound statement.Lonta
Subject: Re: The SLPP MUST seriously contemplate on NORTHERNISATION!
From: Kawusu
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Date Posted: 15:02:24 01/19/08 ()
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"I am probably more SLPP than you claim" Nico.
Really??? Wonders never cease. With "SLPP folks" like Nico does the party need enemies???
Subject: Re: The SLPP MUST seriously contemplate on NORTHERNISATION!
From: nico
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Date Posted: 15:44:53 01/19/08 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
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I am a critic and a patrotic decedent not an enemy of the SLPP. Why did you not call me an enemy when I defended the party where it was needed and when I felt it was not only appropriate but just. I know how to defend and I also know how to attack in a given sets of circumstances. I belive I could not have supported a leaderhip whose policies were detrimental to the party's victory.
I also believe that the current executive, by their silence over critical areas of Tejan Kabba's leaderhip, cost the party election.
Those who were and still silent on the party's failings are the enemies and not those who expressed the party's deficiencies.
A good friend who have your interest at heart will tell you what he thinks of you but a worst friend will keep silence and let you fail. Lonta
Subject: Re: The SLPP MUST seriously contemplate on NORTHERNISATION!
From: Kamara
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Date Posted: 08:18:14 01/19/08 ()
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SLPP does not have to take the party to its northern roots to be successful. It has a loyal northern familes that have always supported SLPP in a democratic Sierra Leone.E.g Yilla, Yumkella, Conteh, Taylor-Kamara , Kande Bureh and Modu. It needs to market itself to the poor and struggling man, stop the aloofness and listen to the cries of the poor.
We do not need to move from the perceived Mende tribalism in SLPp(Southernization) to a perceived Temne tribalism in SLPP(Northenization) We do not need to copy the Northernization policy of Ernest Koroma's current APC. If you look at the current cabinet , you would think Ernest Koroma was the president of Bombali,Tonkolili and Port Loko.
Call us ignoramuses for criticizing the defunct policies of the current APC, we will continue as we are in a democracy. We heard promises but no results yet.
We need to face the fact that tribalism is part of our politics in a democratic Sierra Leone. Temnes gravitate to a Party that is controlled by Temnes and Mendes vice versa. The party that wins the other populous tribes will win.
Finally, the most important fact is Charles Margai was an important factor. Without Charles Margai , APC would have lost in the first round. All these arguments proferred now will all be mute. We will take all your advice kindly.
Subject: Re: The SLPP MUST seriously contemplate on NORTHERNISATION!
From: nico
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Date Posted: 10:23:36 01/19/08 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
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"We need to face the fact that tribalism is part of our politics in a democratic Sierra Leone. Temnes gravitate to a Party that is controlled by Temnes and Mendes vice versa. The party that wins the other populous tribes will win."
Kamara
Your premise quoted above is intriguing. Therefore, do you accept that for the SLPP to win comfortably in future elections, it is necessary to dislodged the perceived southernalisation tag by electing as the party leader a recognisable and acceptable northerner SLPP Temene man or woman so that Temenes will gravitate to the party.
More than ever before, after emerging from a defeat, the SLPP must reclaim her northern heritage and reasert it philosophy of one country -one people with greater confidence and conviction. Without this the party will struggle to bounce back to power.
You rightly mentioned the Charles Margai factor that helped defeat the SLPP. But I think you appear to be decent, honest and probably a realist SLPP. Others in the SLPP said Charles Margai was a "Joker" who could not win a single seat in that election.
I remember having a lunch with an embassy staff at oxford circus in London at the time when the Makeni convention was voting to elect the SLPP leader. I told my dinner mate, (a beauty) that if the Makeni convention was conducted unfairly, the SLPP would split and would subsequently lost the election. Three months before the actual convention I had written in the media and warned of a split unless the leadership election were seen to be fair. The rest is history.
But I am seen ahead again.
Subject: Re: The SLPP MUST seriously contemplate on NORTHERNISATION!
From: kamara
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Date Posted: 15:27:16 01/19/08 ()
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SLPP will 2012 if they remain united and campaign vigorously unless EBK delivers on all promises and performs an economic miracle in Sierra Leone. From EBK's case first hundred days , I do not see APC success in handling Sierra Leone's problems despite good intentions. APC will implode within three years and go back to the old pratices.
Again ,SLPP does not necessary go back to the Northern roots. It has to pick a dynamic leader that connect with the people. The many of them in the current SLPP camp.(Northerners,Southerners and Easterners) Erudite and intelectual as Berewa was , he was not a politician.Thus was unable to connect with the people and a sure election victory was snatched from him.
Nico, I would not be so presumptious in stating that you have a greater claim to SLPP than ITK or anyone. Tejan Kabba or Charles Margai , who had a bigger claim to the SLPP mantle?
Have a good weekend man. Help us build the party and win the 2012 elections. We know party made some serious errors under Kabba. But the defeat will do us good and allow the party to be rejuvenated
Subject: Re: The SLPP MUST seriously contemplate on NORTHERNISATION!
From: nico
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Date Posted: 16:01:14 01/19/08 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
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Tejan Kabba has a greater claim to SLPP mantle? That is news to me. I could not even place him in the political landscape of the SLPP in Sierra Leone when he first contested against Charles Margai and Chief Yumkella for the SLPP leadership. The guy is schemer, an opportunist and all sweet talk.
Subject: Re: The SLPP MUST seriously contemplate on NORTHERNISATION!
From: Kamara
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Date Posted: 17:33:17 01/19/08 ()
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Nico , you misread my statement. I am asking who had a greater claim to the SLPP mantle, Kabba or Charles Margai
Subject: Re: The SLPP MUST seriously contemplate on NORTHERNISATION!
From: ITK
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Date Posted: 10:57:31 01/19/08 ()
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Nico:
The SLPP lost because of a lackluster campaign, componded by other factors you all should know by now. Berewa and some others in the party actually did a great job, but there were factors that they could not control.
The APC did not run a good campaign either. They likely would not have won without the PMDC factor (one of the unnamed facors I allude to above.)
The SLPP has support in the North and will continue to get that support. It obviously has massive support in the Southeast. It would be foolish not to seek to maintain the support it has. You do that by making yourself attractive. SLPP has generally not had a problem in this regard. As has already been pointed out, "ethnic arithmetic" is a part and parcel of politics not only in Sierra Leone but many countries worldwide. Thus, a part does what it needs to do to solidify its base while appealing to the widest spectrum of the electorate/population.
My last say on this; there's too much unnecessary analysis. Let's keep it simple: APC is strong in the North and nWest; SLPP is strong the Southeast. The trick is how do they gain and sustain "credible" support in areas that are not their strongholds.
Lonta
Subject: Re: The SLPP MUST seriously contemplate on NORTHERNISATION!
From: Fen Plaba!
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Date Posted: 09:11:14 01/19/08 ()
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O'Kama U loss O! Missed U on the forum. Good to see U posting again. Your insight is always refreshing and adamantly SLPP. Take care my friend.
Subject: Re: The SLPP MUST seriously contemplate on NORTHERNISATION!
From: kamara
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Date Posted: 15:03:02 01/19/08 ()
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Fen plaba , I had Stopped posting until my family got electricity from the EBK tiger. They finally got it. Have a good weekend
Subject: SWEET SaLone!
From: Alfred S. Cole
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Date Posted: 03:15:18 01/19/08 ()
Email Address: alfcoles2120@hotmail.com
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SWEET SA LONE!
In the 1930s, diamonds were discovered in Sierra Leone. People came from all over the globe in search of wealth. Sierra Leoneans have lived in wealth since that time but have not benefited substantially from their diamond wealth. Today, the land which had (and still has) the country�s heavy deposit of valuable diamonds remains the most backward in the world.
Koidu is the capital of this backward land from where diamonds are mined. Governments come and go but its people remain not cared for. As if that was not enough, the rebels got to Kono and burnt down every structure that stood in the land. With tears running down their faces the people returned to their land with hopes that government will help in their rehabilitation and reconstruction process. The SLPP issued numerous promises they could not fulfill.
Because the chiefs of Kono are selfish (forgetting that their land was in ruins), they accepted hand-shakes from the former SLPP leader. It is a known that the chiefs accepted bribes and took oath to support the SLPP during the elections in 2007. It became glaringly clear during the election that Kono registered support for the SLPP.
Presently, in Kono, the diamonds are hard to come by. One needs to have huge capital in order to engage in deep mining. The SLPP government had said that mining diamond was risk�taking and an uncertainty so they decided to give away the nation's wealth. What did they do next? They convinced parliament (of which Dr. Koroma was a part) to ratify the Mining Policy; a mining policy which gave away the country�s diamond wealth to Koidu Holdings. That policy gave the mining company the power to blast the foundations of the remains of houses in that land. The blasting has caused major unrest in the Kono land and concerned Kono Youths are battling with the multinational agents in the name of Koidu Holdings. The youths are saying that their land is been treated unfairly.
Adding salt to injury, the present government does not seem to care about the concerns of the Kono people, but the Vice President and the First Lady hail from that land that is being blasted at will by the Koidu Holdings a multinational plunderer and exploiter. Should you go to that land of diamonds, you will agree with the people that they have every reason to stand and resist Koidu Holdings.
Moyamba is also going through the same problem of neglect and destruction. You will agree with me that these two districts are the bread baskets of the country. Unfortunately, the two districts in particular and the country at large are not benefiting anything substantial from the diamond and the Rutile. They remain without water supply, electricity, good schools and hospital and their peoples journey on dangerous roads. To journey from the capital (more especially from Makeni) to Koidu, you must travel a road that is both a torture and heartbreaking- hardly would you believe that you are traveling on a road that leads to a diamond land. It�s just a journey of 212 miles which is expected to last say, 4 hours, but will last the whole day or even more.
The mining activities in Kono (for diamonds) and in Moyamba (for Rutile) have unbearable environmental hazards. After the diamonds are mined, the people of Kono receive deep pits as gifts as reward. Now their capital city sits on a Kimberlite trench and lives are at risk. That town can sink at anytime (May God forbid).
Moyamba on the other hand is also left with ponds all over and everywhere Rutile is mined. No agriculture activity goes on in those areas after the Rutile has been gathered and shipped to the multinational Company's headquarter.
The people of Moyamba are living in fear that one day their villages would be flooded and lives would be lost. The question any well-meaning Sierra Leonean will ask is, �Why are our people suffering in this manner?� Is it a curse? NO! It can�t be. Help is not far away; I believe.
I read the SLID proposal which the writers say have presented to government. After reading that document, I thought of Kono and Moyamba districts that are particularly being plundered in the name of investment. I was forced to ask what the country is gaining from our God-given wealth. Somebody will say, a lot! I will say we are not getting anything commensurate to the damage that is inflicted on our land. Somebody else will say, �But your government had an agreement with the mining company.� Correct! I would say. But when I read the SLID proposal, I was made to believe that we could have a rethink and do that agreement responsibly.
Now here we are with the government we wanted. In September last year we said this government will take us out of our present predicament. Yes! We said so. We went out to vote for the APC and threw out our old friend. Undoubtedly, the APC seem to be on that road the leader promised; the road that will lead us out of the mess we are in now.
My friends, if you have not had the opportunity to read the SLID proposal that has been presented to government, contact the guys who did it- Patrick Bockarie and Sahr Kaingbanja. It�s sweet to read. It is a very big �dream,� some people would say. I say it�s a reality because I know we can do it if we harness our resources well as the guys stated in the proposal.
I read the SLID proposal with open mind and an open heart believing that it is the way to solving our problem of infrastructural development. I looked at SLID proposal and saw in my mind�s eyes a place convenient and condusive for human living after it would have been completed.
I saw the SLID proposal as a wake-up call; a dream change �trip�. SLID is a proposal that inspires a nation and its leaders to a new level of dedication and realization. SLID proposal is a document that inspires a nation to position itself as a balanced and honorable country. I recognized this proposal as raising the consciousness (if not already) and work of the people of Sierra Leone and placing them in the position of better living and envy in the sub-region.
Have they (those in power) not seen the SLID proposal? Are we sleeping and refusing to wake up to see this country out of poverty and backwardness? Why will be happy for being the very last in the HDI with all that which nature has given to us? What has Kono gained from its diamond? What are they gaining from it now? DEEP HOLES! What is Moyamba gaining from Rutile? PONDS! Who takes the biggest bite of our resources? The exploiters in the name of investors; the Multinational Company Agents.
If one man can get loans from anywhere to mine our diamonds and Rutile, what is wrong if our government goes for the same? What is wrong if we leverage our resouces as SLID is proposing so that we can walk out of backwardness? One begins to wonder as to what is wrong with us. The SLID proposal employs his Excellency�s business method skills to take us from the claws of the backwardness.
When I read the SLID proposal, I saw relief, development and good living for our people. When I heard the tale about God�s creation and distribution of wealth, I was quick to relate that tale to our country and us. But at this time and period of human exposure and development, can we still go like that accepting pittance for billions and stay happy? NO! The government of Dr. Koroma must act fast to bring an end to exploitation.
Every well-meaning and responsible Sierra Leonean would want to dedicate herself or himself to the common good of getting this message of SLID to our people, with a special emphasis on Secondary schools and college students. We need to prevent the diamonds and Rutile companies from destroying our homes, families, and lands. We don�t want to be counted among those responsible for destroying this beautiful country. If you read the SLID proposal and really comprehend what the writers are telling the government and people, you will agree with me that we shouldn�t be living by the Nile and washing our hands with spittle.
Subject: DeBeers Class Action Suit
From: Erica Adams
To: All
Date Posted: 16:22:46 01/19/08 ()
Email Address: emonique@bellsouth.net
Entered From: adsl-074-185-005-235.sip.clt.bellsouth.net at 74.185.5.235
Message:
I actually stumbled upon this class action information against DeBeers last Sunday. I wonder how African nations impacted by "blood diamonds" can require companies like DeBeers to help with this post conflict development of their countries. DeBeers is just a legalized cartel that has blood on it's hands and needs to be exposed for how it has benefited from the pain and suffering of many in Africa. My understanding is that diamonds are not even rare stones (in comparison to other precious stones), it's just the well orchestrated control that DeBeers keeps on the flow of diamonds into the market that is keeping the price up. From what I have read, if the diamonds DeBeers has stockpiled were flooded into the market, they would basically be worthless.
I know you were talking about the SLID proposal. One of the things that would really put SL on the map is if they could somehow secure the resources to develop and produce alternative sources of fuel. I was listening to NPR yesterday and they talked about making fuel from palm oil. That would be a great fit for West Africa. Sierra Leone needs to be on the cutting edge of the alternative energy movement. There is a ready workforce, labor can be secured relatively inexpensively, there are donors ready to help with the recover process, and it would show the country in a positive light. Even with the latest gift from Ghaddafi, some are upset about accepting gifts from him, I really don't have a problem with it and I would even explore ways to get more if it will ultimately help in the rebuilding and recovery process for SL. I've also been reading about how China is trying to make more inroads into Africa which is making the US nervous. I would exploit that situation too. The SLID is a good plan, and considering no one else is proposing a plan that will give the country better control and value for it's resources, it's worth consideration for that alone.
One thing that has to happen with this proposal is provision being made to attract and retain Sierra Leone's best and brightest. There has to be a technology transfer that enables the citizens of Sierra Leone to manage its own resources in ways that will be more profitable so that they aren't receiving the scraps from the table while foreign investors are enjoying the lion's share of the resources.
Subject: Re: DeBeers Class Action Suit
From: Patrick Bockarim SLID Senior Partner
To: All
Date Posted: 20:08:04 01/19/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 74-37-148-59.dsl1.ekgv.ca.frontiernet.net at 74.37.148.59
Message:
Check out this link posted by "Salone Man."
Subject: Re: DeBeers Class Action Suit
From: Patrick Bockarim SLID Senior Partner
To: All
Date Posted: 19:41:37 01/19/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 74-37-148-59.dsl1.ekgv.ca.frontiernet.net at 74.37.148.59
Message:
More power to you Erica. SLID has $800 million over 10 years assigned to business development, and $10 million in first year assigned to energy and alternative technology research. Are you really Erica, a female? I am looking for bright females to join our partnership when time comes to meet with the government - which is just a matter of time. Call me or email me.
Patrick
Subject: Re: SWEET SaLone!
From: Bai Bureh
To: All
Date Posted: 03:26:03 01/19/08 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: c83-248-87-193.bredband.comhem.se at 83.248.87.193
Message:
Howbah you nar SLID batoliner? Lol.
Subject: Re: SWEET SaLone!
From: tohk2yousef
To: All
Date Posted: 05:14:43 01/19/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cpe-69-204-133-167.nycap.res.rr.com at 69.204.133.167
Message:
Patrick Bockarie dae tohk to in sef
Subject: Re: SWEET SaLone!
From: Alfred S. Cole
To: All
Date Posted: 18:08:29 01/19/08 ()
Email Address: alfcoles2120@hotmail.com
Entered From: c-71-197-99-190.hsd1.ca.comcast.net at 71.197.99.190
Message:
When small minds talk, they are not hard to discern. It's a pity that you can come again on Patrick Bockarie. How can you think Patrick did what you are believing he did? He (Patrick) does not need to write anything again. He and associate have done what you and I cannot do; or rather we were not thinking about. All you and I knew about Sierra Leone was that the country has resources that were not humanly and meaningfully harnessed so we are rated as the poorest nation (by HDI)on earth. Patrick and his associate have made you and I to know how we can use our resources to develop our country; and not only that, where to develop. If you admire and accept that they have done great work, then appreciate them and don't see the SLID proposal like an offense and would associate any writing that supports SLID as Patrick writing. Leave Patrick alone; he has not done anything to you. Nobody needs to campaign for the SLID proposal because the document speaks for itself and sells itself to anybody who believes in development. How would you be when this government decides to take the SLID proposal and works with it? Will you not drive on the road to PortLoko because it was Patrick's idea?
BLOW YAH! BLOW! KOMOT BIHEN PATRICK; NOR TO PATRICK WRITE, NAR ME, ALFRED COLE. I don't hide my identity. I am who I am, Alfred S. Cole. (FREETONG BOY).
Subject: Re: SWEET SaLone!
From: Patrick Bockarim SLID Senior Partner
To: All
Date Posted: 16:19:23 01/19/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 74-37-148-59.dsl1.ekgv.ca.frontiernet.net at 74.37.148.59
Message:
Bai Bureh, I don't write like that and I am not someone who will do something like this. You may not know me, but I am not dubious. That is why I use my real name on any opinion I express.
Subject: Re: SWEET SaLone!
From: Alfred S. Cole
To: All
Date Posted: 04:14:15 01/19/08 ()
Email Address: alfcoles2120@hotmail.com
Entered From: c-71-197-99-190.hsd1.ca.comcast.net at 71.197.99.190
Message:
Bai, I see you are that kind of person who does not like good things. If you say so, I am a batoliner for SLID. Don't you see the substance the proposal has? Don't you see the direction it takes? Don't you see where it will lead us? Don't you see us living developed? Don't you see our country looking like America where the writers are? How you nor lek fine thin ba?
I must tell you something, as long as that proposal is not treated with the seriousness it deserves, I would conclude that we would get nowhere different from donor corridors asking for spittle when we have water to wash our hands and to drink lustfully; where donors will be telling us how to live, how to sleep, when to sleep and where to sleep. HOW, E NOR DO WAY WE BEG?
Subject: Re: SWEET SaLone!
From: Bai Bureh
To: All
Date Posted: 05:53:16 01/19/08 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: c83-248-87-193.bredband.comhem.se at 83.248.87.193
Message:
Bra ah know say SLID nar fine tin.
I have even given my input and Patrick can confirm that.
But de way way you dae emphasize lek the sky day fall nar eem make ar ask u.Anyway ah just dae joke.
On a side note I think SLID is worth promoting and this is no sarcasm, it is for real.
Subject: AFRICAN NATIONS CUP: NIGERIA AND IVORY COAST IN EPIC CLASH
From: Kawusu
To: All
Date Posted: 03:12:16 01/19/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-4575eca0.dyn.optonline.net at 69.117.236.160
Message:
The 2008 African Nations Cup opens in two days with a clash between the host nation, Ghana and Guinea. But perhaps no match will invite the attention of soccer enthusiasts as the Nigeria -Ivory Coast clash. Both teams are undoubtedly two of the best in Africa and in the world for that matter and both parade an array of professionals who ply their trades with top European soccer clubs. While Ivory Coast will be unleashing a Chelsea FC attack in the prolific Didier Drogba and Salomon Kalou on Nigeria, Nigeria will be responding with the dangerous Newcastle striker, Obafemi Martins and the equally dangerous Getafe FC of Spain striker, Ikechukwu Uche.
In midfield, Ivory Coast has a slight advantage in the pacy attacking midfielder, Yaya Toure of Barcelona FC. Nigeria has yet to discover an attacking midfielder in the Austin Okocha mold to close this gap. Dickson Etuhu of Sunderland is no Okocha and the youngster John Mikel Obi who plays for Chelsea is a defensive midfielder. In addition to Yaya Toure, the Ivorians have Didier Zokora of Tottenham Hot spur, a maestro who can play on both sides of the midfield.
In defense, both teams seem to be equal. The Ivorians will be going with the Arsenal FC defense of Kolo Toure and Emmanuel Eboue while the Nigerians will be represented by Joseph Yobo of Everton FC and Danny Shittu of Watford FC in the English Championship. This is going to a very exciting game to watch and my prediction is that the winner will be the team that makes the least number of mistakes.
Subject: WHERE IS DA BRA WHEN WE NEED HIM?
From: KING LOGGY
To: All
Date Posted: 02:29:32 01/19/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 144.226.173.69
Message:
By Abdulai Bayraytay in Freetown.
The government of Sierra Leone has been informally given the ultimatum to expeditiously recall the country’s Ambassador to the United States of America Sulaiman Tejan Jalloh or he and his family will be expelled within thirty days. Tejan-Jalloh was appointed by the former SLPP government of Ahmad Tejan Kabbah.
According to US Embassy sources in Freetown, Ambassador Tejan-Jalloh presented two ladies to the United States Embassy in Freetown he purported to be his daughters in order for them to secure diplomatic visas that would have facilitated their travel and stay in the United States.
According to very reliable sources, officials at the US embassy in Freetown became suspicious and instituted investigations into the applications. Accordingly, it was ascertained that Tejan Jalloh obtained fake birth certificates for his “daughters” under the false names of Musukuda Tejan-Jalloh and Rosaline Tejan-Jalloh so that they could travel to the United States on diplomatic passports.
“If the government fails to recall him immediately, we will be left with no option but to expel him within thirty days," US officials are reported to have said.
According to Washington, D.C. sources, this is just one of the greatest diplomatic embarrassments the country has faced under the erstwhile leadership of the Sierra Leone People’s Party (SLPP) government.
“This is what you get when you reward hustlers with diplomatic appointments”, one Sierra Leonean resident in the US, Mohamed Kamara aka Maajid said.
"This is just one of the reasons why we kicked out the SLPP government from power. Can you imagine it cannot recall a corrupt diplomat that brought shame and diplomatic embarrassment to the country?” asked Fourah Bay College law student, Henrietta K. Kamara.
In an interview with the Minister of Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation (MOFA & IC) Mrs. Zainab H. Bangura at her Gloucester Street office in Freetown, she disclosed that Ambassador Tejan Jalloh has been immediately recalled, noting that all traveling arrangements have been made with the Ministry of Finance to bring him and his family back to the country immediately.
“The government cannot tolerate this in any form”, the internationally acclaimed anti-corruption activist said.
Meanwhile, President Ernest B. Koroma has replaced Tejan Jalloh with Dr. Bockarie Stevens as Sierra Leone’s new ambassador to the United States. As at press time, it is not known whether the new APC government will charge Tejan Jalloh once he returned to the country for professional and diplomatic misconduct.
Photo, from left to right: Sulaiman Tejan-Jalloh, Mrs. Tejan-Jalloh and former president Kabbah.
Subject: Re: WHERE IS DA BRA WHEN WE NEED HIM?
From: Kawusu
To: All
Date Posted: 03:04:00 01/19/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-4575eca0.dyn.optonline.net at 69.117.236.160
Message:
King Loggy bo dis nar old news. Una nor dae taya wit dis APC propaganda?
Subject: Re: WHERE IS DA BRA WHEN WE NEED HIM?
From: KING LOGGY
To: All
Date Posted: 03:13:24 01/19/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 144.226.173.69
Message:
"King Loggy bo dis nar old news."
---------------------------
Nor to de word dat?
But tay now the "objective" en "equal opportunity" bashing Bra E nor coment. Wonder why?
Subject: Re: WHERE IS DA BRA WHEN WE NEED HIM?
From: Bai Bureh
To: All
Date Posted: 02:44:04 01/19/08 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: c83-248-87-193.bredband.comhem.se at 83.248.87.193
Message:
SLPP make we gainze! Dem bin don really paassmark!
Subject: WHICH COUNTRY IS IT?
From: Alfred S. Cole
To: All
Date Posted: 02:27:09 01/19/08 ()
Email Address: alfcoles2120@hotmail.com
Entered From: c-71-197-99-190.hsd1.ca.comcast.net at 71.197.99.190
Message:
WHICH COUNTRY IS IT?
Once upon a time, (a story was told) God created the countries of the world. He (God) created a small country in Africa with a small population. God was full of love and compassion for that country and He (God) blessed that small country with abundant natural resources to keep its people alive and happy. In the same creation process, God had created great countries like America, England, France, Germany, you name them. Unfortunately they didn�t have the natural resources this small country had and still has.
God�s angels were dissatisfied with Him (God) and they registered their dissatisfactions with their voices raised for the Master to hear. �Why did you (God) make this country have all these resources and did not deposit them in the bigger countries?� They asked the Creator, the story went on. In response, God told the angels, �You wait and see the people I will send to occupy that land.� Continuing, God told them, �The people I will send there will own the resources but will not raise their voices when people will go to plunder them. The resources will be taken at anytime, anyhow, and at will.� The angels were satisfied with God�s response so they went quiet to see who will go to possess these very valuable resources.
With time, God created the people of the world and sent the people to go occupy their lands. Then this small number of people went and occupied their land. They became confused in the middle of wealth. Apart from being confused, they were equally selfish and unprogressive. They never had a national goal. They themselves paved the way for plunderers to make away with their God-given wealth. They would assist the plunderers to take away their wealth for anything.
Do you know this country?
Subject: Re: WHICH COUNTRY IS IT?
From: Mr Sierra Leone
To: All
Date Posted: 11:46:24 01/19/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: h209.64.89.75.ip.alltel.net at 75.89.64.209
Message:
God does not want us the people of Sierra Leone to be stupid. The people pretending to be our saviors (politicians) want us to be stupid or think we are stupid. In truth they are the ones that are stupid. When these jackasses get into power they become complacent. The fact that Sierra Leone is last on the world index on almost everything means we are also high on the stupidity index. This I think is mainly attributed to our Leadership. The current Leadership has all the opportunity in the world the prove otherwise, but again time is of the essence. The indexes have bottom out on Sierra Leone, a great opportunity to move them significantly upward.
That goes for Ideas, health institutions, infrastructures, poverty reduction, education, life expectancy, energy, the economy, you name it, as well as individuals.
We shall see.
Subject: Re: WHICH COUNTRY IS IT?
From: Police Professor
To: All
Date Posted: 19:08:18 01/19/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-72-66-120-243.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 72.66.120.243
Message:
Which planet are you from? Are you responding to ASC? It is a shame you
are so empty to understand the simple point we are discussing.
Subject: Re: WHICH COUNTRY IS IT?
From: Real police
To: All
Date Posted: 19:48:55 01/19/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: h209.64.89.75.ip.alltel.net at 75.89.64.209
Message:
Sierra Leone... Confusion, Stupidity what is the difference...? You have to learn how to read between the lines. No baby sitter here my friend.
Subject: Re: WHICH COUNTRY IS IT?
From: Bai Bureh
To: All
Date Posted: 02:51:24 01/19/08 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: c83-248-87-193.bredband.comhem.se at 83.248.87.193
Message:
Lol. It is nameless!It can't be Salone.Only krio boys like you can manufacture such derogatory stories about our beloved country.Where did your forefathers get this cock-and-bull story from? Why on earth did they pass it on to their posterity? Is it because krios are not at the helm in Salone? Boy GO TELL IT TO THE BIRDS!
I believe God will change things for the best.
Subject: Re: WHICH COUNTRY IS IT?
From: Alfred S. Cole
To: All
Date Posted: 04:00:08 01/19/08 ()
Email Address: alfcoles2120@hotmail.com
Entered From: c-71-197-99-190.hsd1.ca.comcast.net at 71.197.99.190
Message:
Bai Bureh, what significant thing have you done to cause the change for the best in the country? Don't tell me you Temnes replaced SLPP with APC in the last elections, becuase it was done by us Krios and Temnes alike. NOR TO SO?
We can have our differences but I do believe that we are refusing to accept our faults as a nation. The first thing one can do to mend a mistake is to accept that you made the mistake. We can't shy away from that tale because YOU say it is derogatory. Don't you see how our leaders have been behaving in the past? Why do you think that we have been behaving in the manner the story is told? Why do you think that we can benefit from our God-given wealth when we do have the most ridiculous Mining Policy the world-over that is causing us more pain and trouble?
Yes! I do believe that God will change things for the best for us. He will do it when He sees us performing seriously. He (God) has given us wealth we are not making good use of. We are trading it for free.
It is said prayer changes things but you must be praying for the prayer to change the things. In the like manner, we can benefit from our diamonds and Rutile and other resources if we do what will bring the benefits. It starts with the agreements we enter into with our so-called investors. For now, as long as we remain pampering these so-called investors, I see no success (not being pessimistic); we will have our minister of Finance doing a budget that is inadequate and calls it, defict spending. IF WE HARNESS OUR RESOUCES WELL, WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT BUDGET SURPLUSES BCOS, THE RUTILE DAE WU-TEH-TEH (E- BORKOU)
Look my brother, let us not shy away from telling this our government the truth for we laboured to get it to power. It is our combined effort that brought it to power. We cannot sit by to see it not do the wright things. For me, President Koroma should act now to end the exploitation of our resources. If that is not done, I wonder how God will change things for the best when He(God) has given us what we need to use in order to walk out of backwardness.
I know my story sounded derogatory to you, but don't you see a semblance of a Sierra Leonean behavior in that story?
Subject: LORD ,SAVE MY KRIO FRIENDS FROM THE APC'S SATANIC RULE.
From: ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA
To: All
Date Posted: 22:26:23 01/18/08 ()
Email Address: SAIDUBANGSO@AOL.COM
Entered From: c-69-140-129-75.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.140.129.75
Message:
It is very clear that the APC leadership is ready to create cracks among the Krios in Freetown.
Recently, the APC manufactured a method by which they unlawfully removed mayor W.S. Bankole Johnson from office and replaced him with another Krio, Herbert Williams. A gross manifestation of the party's "DIVIDE AND RULE" policy.
I knew that mayor Johnson will not survive in the APC because he refused to subdue himself to the dictates of the ill-motivated and misguided members of the APC.
What pains my heart the most is the fact that the Krios have supported the APC since its creation but they have suffered a lot of disrespect from all the APC leaders(Siaka Stevens, Joe Momoh and now E.B.Koroma).
I pray for the day my Krio brothers and sisters will see reasons why they need to stay away from the APC.
I PRAY THAT GOD PREPARES A TABLE BEFORE ALL MY
KRIO BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN THE PRESENCE OF THEIR
ENEMIES IN THE APC.
I want all the people of God, to SAY- AMEN.
Subject: Re: LORD ,SAVE MY KRIO FRIENDS FROM THE APC'S SATANIC RULE.
From: Alfred S. Cole
To: All
Date Posted: 04:21:24 01/19/08 ()
Email Address: alfcoles2120@hotmail.com
Entered From: c-71-197-99-190.hsd1.ca.comcast.net at 71.197.99.190
Message:
AMEN! as our cups runneth over.
Subject: Re: LORD ,SAVE MY KRIO FRIENDS FROM THE APC'S SATANIC RULE.
From: Bai Bureh
To: All
Date Posted: 02:54:31 01/19/08 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: c83-248-87-193.bredband.comhem.se at 83.248.87.193
Message:
Krios will never side with a tribalistic and destruction-oriented party like the Kongobay SLPP.Even if you guys lick their boots from now till 2012 they will never even think of that.Get real!
Subject: Re: LORD ,SAVE MY KRIO FRIENDS FROM THE APC'S SATANIC RULE.
From: DeLaw
To: All
Date Posted: 13:48:22 01/19/08 ()
Email Address: contehlawrence@yahoo.com
Entered From: cpe-75-185-98-179.insight.res.rr.com at 75.185.98.179
Message:
'NEVER SAY NEVER.'I bet you don't know what the Creoles think.They are just as Sierra Leonean as others.
In any case the APC and SLPP have always been engaged in a mutualism of deception,corruption,impunity with a lack of vision to lift our people from misery,inspite of the opportunties both parties had.
Come to think of it,these two parties have always ruled Sierra Leone since independence if we discount the brief periods when the political landscape was different.
What do we positively have to show for it?
Subject: You can watch the African Nations Cup in the US
From: Donald Osman
To: All
Date Posted: 20:34:52 01/18/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: mail.yfci.net at 68.165.96.68
Message:
Watch the Nations cup on TV or your computer. Check the link below:
https://www.africast.tv/
Subject: ZIMBABWE: THE NIGHTMARE AFRICAN LEADERS MUST AVOID!
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 20:11:35 01/18/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-4577b27b.dyn.optonline.net at 69.119.178.123
Message:
150,000% superinflation.
Prices change by the hour.
Useless currency.
Z$10 million note introduced today.
Price of tooth paste tube: Z$3.8 million.
A brutal dictator who blames everybody but himself for his country's malaise.
Mugabe's solution? Price control. Result? The few goods simply disappeared from the store shelves and resurfaced in the black market at even more exorbitant prices.
If the opposition so much as coughs in protest? Mugabe's goons attack, torture and kill.
The imperial presidents of Africa will do well to stanch corruption and follow sound economic policies with input from the opposition. This way, we will have continuity when the electorate plays musical chairs with political parties.
But Oya, these 'leaders' do not listen as Mwai Kibaki is murderously demonstrating in Kenya.
We in Sierra Leone are really lucky!
I hope we all fight to keep the country's newly minted democracy strong and vibrant.
Subject: ZIMBABWE: THE NIGHTMARE AFRICAN LEADERS MUST AVOID!
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 20:10:31 01/18/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-4577b27b.dyn.optonline.net at 69.119.178.123
Message:
150,000 superinflation.
Prices change by the hour.
Useless currency.
Z$10 million note introduced today.
Price of tooth paste tube: Z$3.8 million.
A brutal dictator who blames everybody but himself for his country's malaise.
Mugabe's solution? Price control. Result? The few goods simply disappeared from the store shelves and resurfaced in the black market at even more exorbitant prices.
If the opposition so much as coughs in protest? Mugabe's goons attack, torture and kill.
The imperial presidents of Africa will do well to stanch corruption and follow sound economic policies with input from the opposition. This way, we will have continuity when the electorate plays musical chairs with political parties.
But Oya, these 'leaders' do not listen as Mwai Kibaki is murderously demonstrating in Kenya.
We in Sierra Leone are really lucky!
I hope we all fight to keep the country's newly minted democracy strong and vibrant.
Subject: Read for fun
From: Salone Man
To: All
Date Posted: 19:55:29 01/18/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pat.fwgc.dot.ca.gov at 149.136.17.253
Message:
http://www.im-mining.com/2007/05/09/sierra-leone-to-award-titanium-resources-founder-with-its-highest-honour/
http://www.mineweb.com/mineweb/view/mineweb/en/page66?oid=40220&sn=Detail
Subject: Re: Read for fun
From: MSK
To: All
Date Posted: 19:28:25 01/19/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-72-66-120-243.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 72.66.120.243
Message:
Where is the fun? Very, very dry humor.
Subject: Re: Read for fun
From: Parick Bockari
To: All
Date Posted: 20:05:23 01/19/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 74-37-148-59.dsl1.ekgv.ca.frontiernet.net at 74.37.148.59
Message:
I agree MSK. What is funny or enjoyable about the posting?
Subject: For Mbalu---on the Clotoris cutting ban
From:
Concerned P
To: All
Date Posted: 18:15:30 01/18/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 138.238.236.48
Message:
Did Mbalu succeed in getting the ban on clitoris cutting in Sierra
Leone?
Subject: FEN PLABA: Re: Electricity
From: Kawusu
To: All
Date Posted: 18:02:04 01/18/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-4575eca0.dyn.optonline.net at 69.117.236.160
Message:
Fen Plaba,
I am off to Freetown next week. Can you please tell me which part of town has electricity so that I don't check into a hotel that uses Kabbah Tiger?
By the way what happened to the 24 hour city-wide program? Did EBK pocket some the $34 million???
Subject: Re: FEN PLABA: Re: Electricity
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 19:06:09 01/18/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-4577b27b.dyn.optonline.net at 69.119.178.123
Message:
All Sie get light, Servo. Maybe not 24 hrs everywhere but the illumination is slowly, surely and steadily conquering the darkness everywhere.
Infact I expect you to be so amazed by EBK's efforts that you will see the light (pun intended) and remove those green N.A Gbada Khakis and join the Red Ashobi Corner!
Or Wieeeee!
Or Sieeeee!
Electricity is 'bothi'!
Subject: Re: FEN PLABA: Re: Electricity
From: Free speech
To: All
Date Posted: 19:58:29 01/18/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 198.231.23.240
Message:
Propaganda is that branch of the art of lying which consists in nearly deceiving your friends without quite deceiving your enemies. - F.M. Cornford
Subject: Re: FEN PLABA: Re: Electricity
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 20:29:04 01/18/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-4577b27b.dyn.optonline.net at 69.119.178.123
Message:
Thanks Brother Free Speech for your lovely quotation. Now I understand why F.M. Crawford is the patron saint of SLPP! You rock bro!
Subject: Re: FEN PLABA: Re: Electricity
From: FREE SPEECH
To: All
Date Posted: 20:49:10 01/18/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 198.231.23.240
Message:
F.M. Crawford and slpp are two words you should always remember never to use together, it makes no sense.
Subject: All Politics Aside,We Need A Comprehensive Energy Policy
From: DeLaw
To: All
Date Posted: 17:58:16 01/18/08 ()
Email Address: contehlawrence@yahoo.com
Entered From: cpe-71-65-58-90.insight.res.rr.com at 71.65.58.90
Message:
As the EBK administration strives hard to bring electricity and maintain its production in Freetown and other major towns of Sierra Leone,a window of glorious opportunity opens up to attempt to solve the country's perennial energy problem and create a better and sustainable energy future for our people.
Even though the generators will go a long way to render a short-term solution to the the problem,the government must go all out to develop and implement a comprehensive Energy Policy that encompases 'new' ways of providing the energy the country needs.
Wood fires and human muscle are still providing the bulk of energy for cooking and other activities in Sierra Leone.However, we can no longer continue to rely on fossil fuels without the unintended consequences to climate change, to meet our energy needs.
There have always been other alternative sources of energy naturally suited to our to geographic position in the global environment.The Bumbuna Project is a good example if only it could be completed soon enough.The sun,wind,biomass,geothermal and other sources are also available.Solar panels,wind turbines,biomass converters,geothermal plants are the natural devices that must be used to harness these renewable sources of energy.The use and maintenance of these devices will provide much needed alternatives to the use of fossil fuels to provide energy for the nation since the price of oil could become prohibitive for many third world countries.These renewable energy sources could even help us look beyond Bumbuna which we cannot totally rely on,based on the current trends in climate change.
In other words,as ambitious as the Bumbuna project is,we still have to ask the question;what if the head of water needed to turn the turbines to generate power falls short due to inadequate water supply?
Sierra Leone needs an "Energy Renaissance" to face a great energy challenge.The way foward is to develop alternative energy solutions within a comprehensive Energy Plan.Such solutions could involve the concept of micro power production,which involves the production of power close to where it is consumed.For instance,we do not need to use the Kingtom Power Station to supply electricity to FBC,if we can use wind turbines at Mt.Aureol.
An Energy Policy for Sierra Leone will not be complete without linking it to Education Policy,Transportation,Agriculture and Information disemination.
We need the training of our people to man and maintain hydroelectric plants,design and install solar panels as well as run wind farms or conduct research.Educating the masses about the connection between energy security and basic survival is very crucial.The ministry of Information will be needed to mount the campaign to learn how to maintain these devices as a life long process we must pass from generation to generation.
In the case of Transportation,the country needs to develop a mass transit system so that the soaring oil prices will not catch us offguard.Developing a rail road system connecting north and south,and east and west is still within our reach as the nation plans the movement of goods and people.
The choice of direction that the current leaders take has the dimensions of a total commitment;it is laden with uncertainties and value judgements,wisdom and foresight,and a national will to make sacrifices for the future.
Subject: whats the link to buy the cheap african cards again?
From: quick question
To: All
Date Posted: 16:38:02 01/18/08 ()
Email Address: quickquestion@aol.com
Entered From: c-71-224-131-184.hsd1.nj.comcast.net at 71.224.131.184
Message:
whats the link? i remember seeign it on here.
Subject: Re: whats the link to buy the cheap african cards again?
From: Candid Opinion - No customer shall feel lek step pikin.
To: All
Date Posted: 18:26:17 01/18/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ip68-100-48-137.dc.dc.cox.net at 68.100.48.137
Message:
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Subject: Re: whats the link to buy the cheap african cards again?
From: Bai Bureh
To: All
Date Posted: 03:31:50 01/19/08 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: c83-248-87-193.bredband.comhem.se at 83.248.87.193
Message:
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Subject: Re: whats the link to buy the cheap african cards again?
From: Candid Opinion - U mummy say..Me pikin, E tay wey you call!
To: All
Date Posted: 11:58:58 01/19/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ip68-100-48-137.dc.dc.cox.net at 68.100.48.137
Message:
O'Bai...
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Subject: Re: whats the link to buy the cheap african cards again?
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 16:49:44 01/18/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-4577b27b.dyn.optonline.net at 69.119.178.123
Message:
There is an ad on the Cocorioko front page.
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Subject: Re: whats the link to buy the cheap african cards again?
From: quick question
To: All
Date Posted: 07:47:51 01/19/08 ()
Email Address: quickquestion@aol.com
Entered From: c-71-224-131-184.hsd1.nj.comcast.net at 71.224.131.184
Message:
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Subject: Re: whats the link to buy the cheap african cards again?
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 12:07:28 01/19/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ip68-100-48-137.dc.dc.cox.net at 68.100.48.137
Message:
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Subject: Re: whats the link to buy the cheap african cards again?
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 09:14:23 01/19/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-4577b27b.dyn.optonline.net at 69.119.178.123
Message:
All thanks belong to Candid Opinion for bringing this wonderful service to us. May his business continue to thrive. You are right. These cards are darned good.
Subject: Re: whats the link to buy the cheap african cards again?
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 12:16:26 01/19/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ip68-100-48-137.dc.dc.cox.net at 68.100.48.137
Message:
Fen plaba..
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Subject: African Nations Cup in the States
From: Emmanuel Jarrett
To: All
Date Posted: 15:40:08 01/18/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: na6mk2fw01.fidelity.com at 192.223.243.5
Message:
Is it possible to watch the African Nations Cup here in the States?
Subject: Re: African Nations Cup in the States
From: Kawusu
To: All
Date Posted: 17:53:50 01/18/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-4575eca0.dyn.optonline.net at 69.117.236.160
Message:
Only with DishNetwork - Arab Radio & Television (ART) America. GoodLuck.
Subject: Re: African Nations Cup in the States
From: Donald Osman
To: All
Date Posted: 19:13:17 01/18/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: mail.yfci.net at 68.165.96.68
Message:
You can watch the Nations cup for about $12 by clicking to the link:
https://www.africast.tv/
Subject: Re: African Nations Cup in the States
From: Emmanuel Jarrett
To: All
Date Posted: 07:02:02 01/19/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cpe-076-182-038-179.nc.res.rr.com at 76.182.38.179
Message:
Have you used this service? I am kind of hesitant especially the demand(Upload) will be really high during the games. Let me know which of their services you have used.
Subject: Re: African Nations Cup in the States
From: DONALD OSMAN
To: All
Date Posted: 16:09:04 01/20/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 168-103-208-238.hlrn.qwest.net at 168.103.208.238
Message:
I WATCHED THE OPENINIG CEREMONY THIS MORNING BEFORE GOING TO CHURCH AND THE RECEPTION WAS VERY GOOD. THE GHANAIANS PUT ON QUITE A DISPLAY OF AFRICAN CULTURE DONE WITH TASTE GREAT EXPERTISE AND EXCELLENCE. AS AN AFRICAN, I WAS VERY PROUD TO WITNESS SUCH A COLOURFUL AND VARIED PRESENTATION. GHANA DID ALL OF US PROUD.
Subject: SLID abomination ends! Sir Milton in exploitation video!
From: Patrick Bockari
To: All
Date Posted: 14:05:47 01/18/08 ()
Email Address: patbock48@yahoo.com
Entered From: pat.fwgc.dot.ca.gov at 149.136.17.253
Message:
SLID has removed the APC symbol and replaced it with the national emblem. Sir Milton in exploitation video. Why so much applauding?
Direct link to Video page. Click on links on right side of page to view full video segments.
http://www.ivnps.com/Slid/SLIDhispeed.html
To download SLID Proposal, go to link below or click �Home� and download pages in left margin.
http://www.ivnps.com/SLID.HTML
Subject: Re: SLID abomination ends! Sir Milton in exploitation video!
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 15:43:10 01/18/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-4577b27b.dyn.optonline.net at 69.119.178.123
Message:
Your proposals, as I have already stated, are the boldest and most audacious that have been submitted to change the backward economic and infrastructural situation of the country. These are proposals people of all political stripes can rally around, at least as a basis for discussion. I am finishing my project next week and will do a thorough reread once again of your wonderful proposals before contacting you. I hope forumites take the time to digest the info. This can really transform the country. This is the kind of thing we need to debate on the forum , without ad hominen effrontery.
Subject: U COMPARE ERNEST AND KABBA ? U GO LAFF TAY U BELLEH BOSS!
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 13:11:26 01/18/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 165.155.200.148
Message:
It's too early to compare leaders; Ernest's APC government has been there for just an itty-bitty minute whereas Tejan kabba's government, which my SLPP buddies are pining for, misruled fervently for almost a dozen years. Anyways, let's go!
In less than three months after swamping the SLPP in the general elections, President Koroma brought permanent 24-hr electricity to Freetown and is already moving forward with plans to bring the same goodies to all major towns Upline. Despite the derison and snickers of the SLPP naysayers who said it couldn't be done, LIGHT DON CAM MAKOLO! And it will only get better.
SLPP's solution to the electricity problem was to flood the market with cheap, exploding generators that could be afforded by only a sliver of the population.
Salone Man: Pa Kabba, we want electricity.
Pa Kabba: Electricity Shelectricity! How Ba Den Tell Unu Say Me Nar OPEC Ihn Granpa? Unu betteh go buy Gbengbeh lamp with Kerosene..
L-I-B-Y-A
SLPP's Kabba: Let's share the goodies from Libya. JJ Blood, here take two buses and a tractor. Berewa you take six buses and 1000 bags for the campaign. The other ministers can sell 10 buses and 300 bags and 20 tractors to the Lebanese and share the proceeds. The rest, I will sell to Ghana for my retirement fund.
Everybody, take an oath of Omerta. If ar yerri dis
outside, ar go set Gbose-gbose!
APC's Koroma: Men and women of Sierra leone, the government of Libya has donated 400 bags of rice .....
Subject: Re: U COMPARE ERNEST AND KABBA ? U GO LAFF TAY U BELLEH BOSS!
From: LOW GRADE SAN SAN
To: All
Date Posted: 14:50:57 01/18/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 86.154.251.40
Message:
"SLPP's Kabba: Let's share the goodies from Libya. JJ Blood, here take two buses and a tractor. Berewa you take six buses and 1000 bags for the campaign. The other ministers can sell 10 buses and 300 bags and 20 tractors to the Lebanese and share the proceeds."
And how many bushel did EBK flogged on commission to those petty street traders? 15, 30? Bra, tork half lef half becos Ernest as leader of the opposition was part of that scam. He only got away with it because his mate Philip Neville was economical with the truth by not naming him. But enti kono pady don don? Lets just wait and see
Subject: Re: U COMPARE ERNEST AND KABBA ? U GO LAFF TAY U BELLEH BOSS!
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 13:51:07 01/18/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 89.242.105.159
Message:
Fen Plaba, you go kill me do ya lef this kalokalo.
Subject: Re: U COMPARE ERNEST AND KABBA ? U GO LAFF TAY U BELLEH BOSS!
From: Parick Bockari
To: All
Date Posted: 14:11:47 01/18/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pat.fwgc.dot.ca.gov at 149.136.17.253
Message:
Fen Plaba nar boy pekin Oh! I nor dae fraid talk.
Subject: Thanks Kabs
From: Grateful forumite
To: All
Date Posted: 11:34:50 01/18/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 138.238.236.29
Message:
It took the honorable reverend Kabs to give the knock-out punch
to the Kohkonomist. Now we are enjoying serious discussions on
the forum since the the pest was eliminated. May his soul and
numerous IPs and monikers rest in "pieces". And a big thankl
you to the cocorioko board for restoring sanity to the forum
Subject: THE PRESIDENT'S BUMBUNA TRIP. PLEASURE inc?
From: BRA ENVIABLE
To: All
Date Posted: 09:29:13 01/18/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-mtc-ah10.proxy.aol.com at 64.12.117.202
Message:
President Koroma's weekend trip to Bumbuna had all the characteristics with which Joseph Saidu Momoh sowed his wild oats in Binkolo. After the trip, President Koroma's Press Secretary, Siaka Tarawalie, issued a statement intended to present Bumbuna as the latest birthplace of the APC's master-plan to resuscitate Sierra Leone. Having known President Koroma as an admirer of the late Joseph Saidu Momoh, the Bumbuna trip brought me more anxiety than sedation. Almost everything about the president's Bumbuna trip was aromatic of J.S. Momoh's presidency, the time in our recent history when merry-making fueled everything done by State House. The Bumbuna trip, like Momoh's weekend excursions to Binkolo, was done with enough pomp to arouse legitimate concerns among critical Sierra Leoneans. Ministers, deputy ministers and quite a number of state employees followed the president to Bumbuna in the same manner JS Momoh was latched upon by trusted tribesmen. In the end, JS Momoh failed partly because his presidency was squandered on epicurean pursuits.
Sheka Tarawalie's poor choice of words in the State House release exposed the real motive behind the Bumbuna trip by means of clumsy penmanship. As posted online in the "Patriotic Vanguard," the president's trip to Bumbuna, in Sheka Tarawalie's words, was a "presidential retreat." Eureka!
A presidential retreat is normally taken to soothe a president's nerves with a chain of enjoyable activities. Although national issues can be discussed during a presidential retreat, self-pampering is normally the reason behind such trips. In the case of Bumbuna, the chief of state took so many employees with him that the cost of such a trip could add intolerable strains on Sierra Leone's wobbling economy. A cross-section of the cabinet was in Bumbuna, followed by throngs of deputy ministers and lackeys to dance attendance upon the president and his men. Sheka Tarawalie needs to be more skilful in his choice of words to conceal the new form of wastefulness being presented as productive presidential moves. President Koroma's Bumbuna retreat was no different from JS Mommoh's hedonism in Binkolo. So far, every presidential misstep has shown that Ernest Koroma is unable to detach the "new" APC from the party's history of distracting presidents with pressure from diehard northerners. Bumbuna has edged President Koroma an inch closer to realizing his dangerous aim of taking Sierra Leone back to the days when Joseph Saidu Momoh partied with central committee members in Binkolo to prove his commitment to Ekutay continuity. President Koroma must either smash his way through the backward-thinking wing of the APC, or go down with the ignominy that turned Joseph Saidu Momoh into a national stigma.
Subject: Re: THE PRESIDENT'S BUMBUNA TRIP. PLEASURE inc?
From: Mohamed A. Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 11:16:29 01/19/08 ()
Email Address: Saghinosoccerworld@yahoo.com
Entered From: ool-44c6af1f.dyn.optonline.net at 68.198.175.31
Message:
Bra Enviable could you please submit your CV, to the office of diasporan affairs, and other documentation indicating your work experience in oratory? Our country could use a spin doctor, like you. So that Sheka Tarawalie can be replaced, since you have determined that he is not skilled enough. Please do not keep us waiting. It is of primary importance.
Subject: Re: THE PRESIDENT'S BUMBUNA TRIP. PLEASURE inc?
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 14:41:43 01/18/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 78.151.126.239
Message:
Bra E, you lek for chook chook.
You delebrately ignored the purpose and importance of the event in question and twisted it to discredit the good intentions of the government.
Don't get me wrong, as I believe your tactics are those of good opponent, disqualifying things done by government which are otherwise good practices.
You know quiet well that the choice of words by the Press Secretary are nothing to do with what you vaguely described, but you almost succeeded in enticing a lot of people.
Bra, as strong an opponent of the APC as you're, I still ask you to give praise where its due. But please still continue the good work of the opposition.
Subject: Re: THE PRESIDENT'S BUMBUNA TRIP. PLEASURE inc?
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 12:33:19 01/18/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 165.155.200.148
Message:
Ahhh!
Bra Enviable, the Bumbuna trip is a very different animal from Momoh's Binkolo hedonisms or Berewa's pork barrel-bestowing 'sensitization' tours.
EBK's presidential retreat is a serious meeting in which guidelines for good governance and economic issues were openly deliberated upon in the presence of representatives of other organizations and interests. Those ministers who do not uphold their part of the deal and show results will be fired.
Frankly I was encouraged by this retreat and hope for more of them. I only hope that some of the workshops at future retreats will be on TV and radio for the populace to know what's up. By the way, there is a reason why Bumbuna was chosen. The president, it appears, has drawn a line in the sand at Bumbuna. He is determined that electricity will billow from Bumbuna to power the economic progress of all Sierra Leone, during his presidency.
I hear from reliable sources that the next retreat will be somewhere in the Southeast. If that happens, then the Binkolo Caboodle comparison will be further obviated.
Subject: Re: THE PRESIDENT'S BUMBUNA TRIP. PLEASURE inc?
From: LOW GRADE SAN SAN
To: All
Date Posted: 15:03:07 01/18/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 86.154.251.40
Message:
True, this Bumbuna retreat or bonding is totally different from when Kaba used to "broke traffic" and bring Freetown to a standstill on both his departure and return from his so called cabinet meetings up the provinces. Which was all about, sycophancy, Yellibasm and lay bellehism. I only hope that EBK will always leave behind a spear fire engine when ever he goes on his retreat up country. Just in case "We Yone" house "KETCH" fire as a result of the "Koroma electricity" power surge whilst his away on his retreat in Rogbaneh
Subject: Re: THE PRESIDENT'S BUMBUNA TRIP. PLEASURE inc?
From: Kawusu
To: All
Date Posted: 12:45:21 01/18/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-4575eca0.dyn.optonline.net at 69.117.236.160
Message:
"I hear from reliable sources that the next retreat will be somewhere in the Southeast. If that happens, then the Binkolo Caboodle comparison will be further obviated." Fen Plaba
Before this president starts making forays into the SouthEast, he should first think about denorthernizing the tribal grouping that he refers to as a cabinet.
Subject: Re: THE PRESIDENT'S BUMBUNA TRIP. PLEASURE inc?
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 15:19:43 01/18/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-4577b27b.dyn.optonline.net at 69.119.178.123
Message:
Kawusu, bo lef we ya with dis 'Northernization' propaganda.
By the time some incompetent ministers have been weeded out, the ensuing cabinet will be one of the most regionally balanced governments ever in Sierra Leone's history.
By the way, when are you SLPP blokes in the diaspora gonna congratulate El Presidente for at least making good on his promise to bring electricity back in Freetown? Junior Navo don beat una to dat O!
Subject: Re: THE PRESIDENT'S BUMBUNA TRIP. PLEASURE inc?
From: Lansana Makasuba
To: All
Date Posted: 12:33:16 01/18/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ln1-26-2k5m491.gsu.edu at 131.96.89.158
Message:
Bra Enviable, why are you expecting the APC to change?
Ernest Koroma cannot change the way things are done in that party that practiced corruption and waste for the longest time in Sierra Leone.
Subject: Re: THE PRESIDENT'S BUMBUNA TRIP. PLEASURE inc?
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 14:24:42 01/18/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 78.146.244.175
Message:
Have some shame or better still get some dignity. crying on corruption vociferouly like that can have some serious consequencies as God do judge people based on their gratitudes. For all I care is the APC is so far doing well meeting the needs of the people gradually as its evident by the laudation of one member of the failed SLPP Mende clan, Junior Anthony Navo who disclosed the fact that bringing electricity can undoubtedly enhance commerce in the country.
People like you can never be satisfied by anyone outside of the Mende Clan regardless how hard they tried. you prefer total national deprevation to good living conditions as long as the power belongs to your clan.
My friend you're educated enough to write like that so are expected to be intelligent enough to decipher good from bad but no, you chose not to. But remember that the clan in power cares only for their immediate family they may not be aware of your existence, unless this is the contrary part of the reason why you're blinded.
Never mind all the above join the crusade for good governance and better living conditions, what we must not compromise is the idea that if the Koroma led government fail to deliver, they too will go, but we must also give them all the support they need as they appeared to be heading in the right direction.
Lonta!!
Eddie Grant
Subject: Re: THE PRESIDENT'S BUMBUNA TRIP. PLEASURE inc?
From: special morgan
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Date Posted: 15:43:06 01/20/08 ()
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I agreed with Eddie Grant in term of supporting the new government and also pray for them so that they can achieve their dreams that will improves the lives of every citizen in the country. it is sad to see a country that has been blessed with natural resources by the creator of the world, but consider to be the poorest country in the world because of selfishness and self-destruction within ourselves.With all the vast resouces we have we should not be a supplicant to develop our country.
Subject: Please read this article
From: JAYNE
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Date Posted: 08:48:54 01/18/08 ()
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The New People Newspaper Online Sierra Leone News and Alternative Perspectives on News, Events, and Policies in Sierra Leone .
Ernest Koroma Sings from the Bella Hymnsheet as He Praises Libya's Muammar Gaddafi for Tractors and 400 Bags of Rice.
1.17.2008
Five years ago, in 2003, the then leader of the opposition, Ernest Bai Koroma, said the following about Libya in his response to President Ahmed Tejan-Kabbah's speech to parliament:
We note that his Excellency has extended thanks to those countries that have offered us assistance during these difficult times. We associate ourselves with those sentiments. However, the addition of Libya as one of the countries that have offered bi-lateral aid to this country is astonishing. Libya has been associated with devious and unsavory activities that have resulted in disastrous consequences for our people. It is no use hiding unpleasant facts that have threatened our national security in diplomatic parlance. Libya has been a threat to our security and now we have to thank them for this. We want to know from Government what kind of assistance Sierra Leone has received form Libya that it should be mentioned in the breath as the United Kingdom, the People�s Republic of China or Saudi Arabia.
Even by President Koroma's own very low standards on sticking to one's word about declaring assets and having zero tolerance on corruption, this diplomatic volte face is astonishing. On Tuesday, President Ernest Bai Koroma had completely changed his tune as he stood next to 4 tractors (ear-marked for the north), 400 bags of rice, and 200 bags of flour donated to Sierra Leone by Gaddafi's Libya. He parised Gaddafi as a humanitarian and a worthy African leader. He xehorted all Africans to recognize the primary role that the Libyan government of Gaddafi has played in resolving sub-regional crises.
But having been vociferously critical of the SLPP government's handling of the Libya rice - rumours about which he whipped up popular resentment of the SLPP government, Sierra Leoneans are waiting to see what his government will do with the 400 bags of rice and the tractors. Will those disappear like the electricity contracts or the assets that have not been declared? Where will the 4 tractors go? This newspaper awaits a public statement on all of those issues.Transparency starts here.
Subject: Re: Please read this article
From: Eddie Grant
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Date Posted: 14:53:04 01/18/08 ()
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"We note that his Excellency has extended thanks to those countries that have offered us assistance during these difficult times. We associate ourselves with those sentiments. However, the addition of Libya as one of the countries that have offered bi-lateral aid to this country is astonishing. Libya has been associated with devious and unsavory activities that have resulted in disastrous consequences for our people. It is no use hiding unpleasant facts that have threatened our national security in diplomatic parlance. Libya has been a threat to our security and now we have to thank them for this. We want to know from Government what kind of assistance Sierra Leone has received form Libya that it should be mentioned in the breath as the United Kingdom, the People�s Republic of China or Saudi Arabia." writes Jayne!!
What condemnation do you have based on the above extract? My opinion is that if you are in a position where you knows little or nothing about the dealings of government as in the case of Ernest Koroma while on the opposition, will almost certainly do the samething as the quote below clarifies my point with particular reference to the second sentence.
" Libya has been associated with devious and unsavory activities that have resulted in disastrous consequences for our people. It is no use hiding unpleasant facts that have threatened our national security in diplomatic parlance."
Figure this out.
Subject: Re: Please read this article
From: Salone Police
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Date Posted: 12:17:37 01/18/08 ()
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It is frightening that our president keeps changing his tune like this. I was impressed when he blasted the nasty Gaddafi, but to praise Gaddafi because of 400 bags of rice? That is humiliating.
Is the government going to distribute the 400 bags of rice to everybody in Salone at one fourths of a buttercup as they had advocated in opposition?
Subject: Interesting articles to read
From: Cocorioko
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Date Posted: 07:49:50 01/18/08 ()
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Ernest Koroma reports Libyan gifts to Sierra Leonean people
Written by Cocorioko Newspaper Limited
Friday, 18 January 2008
President Ernest Koroma has lived according to precept , to the shame of the SLPP drum majors and detractors. Unlike the failure of the dethroned SLPP government to tell the Sierra Leonean people about gifts from Libya, President Koroma on Tuesday indicated that Libya had given Sierra Leone 4 tractors, 400 bags of rice, and 200 bags of flour .
In receiving the gifts , President Koroma thanked the Libyan leader , Col. Muamer Ghadaffi for his kind gesture and also praised him for helping to resolve conflicts in Africa.
This development is definitely another big plus to President Koroma who has once again demonstrated that transparency, honesty and accountability were the centrepiece of his administration.
It must be recalled that one of the reasons that the Sierra Leonean people turned against the SLPP and voted them out of power was their uncontrollable anger at the failure of the SLPP government to report hundreds of bags of rice and cooking oil presented to the people by Col. Ghaddafi. Word on the streets of Freetown is that the Libyan rice and cooking oil were surreptitiously sold to Ghana.
The SLPP government was humiliated when Ghaddafi in one of his extemporaneous speeches while on a visit to Sierra Leone just before the elections told the people that he had donated a shipload of rice and cooking oil to the Sierra Leonean people. Since the gifts were never reported to the people, Sierra Leoneans were taken by surprise and the word soon spread in the country that the government had withheld and failed to report shiploads of rice and cooking oil donated by Ghaddafi.
This scandal played fittingly into the hands of the APC and a nation already disenchanted with the SLPP government and looking to kick it out of power via the ballot box. Musicians also produced songs about the Libyan rice that was never reported to the people and journalists made sensational headlines in their newspapers about the "Hol' up" by the SLPP government .
Sierra Leone who read about President Koroma's gesture of honesty and accountability said that no amount of SLPP propaganda and divisive articles by anti-APC newspapers will achieve their desired effect if President Koroma and his government officials continue to be honest and true to the Sierra Leonean people.
Last Updated ( Friday, 18 January 2008 )
Subject: Re: Interesting articles to read
From: JN
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Date Posted: 08:43:20 01/18/08 ()
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It is high time you stop this propaganda the elections are over although there is to come the local elections. It is now public knowledge that the cocorioko and the APC supporters had to fabricate stories about the rice in order to be considered for prominent positions in the APC government. Some of you have got the positions you wanted and tough luck to those who did not so let us now write objectively.
Subject: Re: Interesting articles to read
From: ok doc
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Date Posted: 10:38:12 01/18/08 ()
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i hope we see more of that accountability on things of substance. that amount bag of rice cannot even feed a village for a week. whats the big deal? i want to see all our ministers and parliamentarians on both sides declare there assets. we need accountability. Mr. president you can start as an example by declarign your own assets
Subject: Interesting article to read
From: JN
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Date Posted: 06:43:25 01/18/08 ()
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The New People Newspaper Online Sierra Leone News and Alternative Perspectives on News, Events, and Policies in Sierra Leone .
Ernest Koroma Sings from the Bella Hymnsheet as He Praises Libya's Muammar Gaddafi for Tractors and 400 Bags of Rice.
1.17.2008
Five years ago, in 2003, the then leader of the opposition, Ernest Bai Koroma, said the following about Libya in his response to President Ahmed Tejan-Kabbah's speech to parliament:
We note that his Excellency has extended thanks to those countries that have offered us assistance during these difficult times. We associate ourselves with those sentiments. However, the addition of Libya as one of the countries that have offered bi-lateral aid to this country is astonishing. Libya has been associated with devious and unsavory activities that have resulted in disastrous consequences for our people. It is no use hiding unpleasant facts that have threatened our national security in diplomatic parlance. Libya has been a threat to our security and now we have to thank them for this. We want to know from Government what kind of assistance Sierra Leone has received form Libya that it should be mentioned in the breath as the United Kingdom, the People�s Republic of China or Saudi Arabia.
Even by President Koroma's own very low standards on sticking to one's word about declaring assets and having zero tolerance on corruption, this diplomatic volte face is astonishing. On Tuesday, President Ernest Bai Koroma had completely changed his tune as he stood next to 4 tractors (ear-marked for the north), 400 bags of rice, and 200 bags of flour donated to Sierra Leone by Gaddafi's Libya. He parised Gaddafi as a humanitarian and a worthy African leader. He xehorted all Africans to recognize the primary role that the Libyan government of Gaddafi has played in resolving sub-regional crises.
But having been vociferously critical of the SLPP government's handling of the Libya rice - rumours about which he whipped up popular resentment of the SLPP government, Sierra Leoneans are waiting to see what his government will do with the 400 bags of rice and the tractors. Will those disappear like the electricity contracts or the assets that have not been declared? Where will the 4 tractors go? This newspaper awaits a public statement on all of those issues.Transparency starts here.
Subject: Re: Interesting article to read
From: Bonthe Pikin
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Date Posted: 09:15:12 01/18/08 ()
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You are blasting Cocorioko to stop the propaganda while at the same time glorifying Patrick Muana and Marda Mustapha's NEW PEOPLE PROPAGANGA Machinery rubbish. Propanganda indeed!
Subject: 2008 GENERAL AMNESTY SOON
From: KABS KANU
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Date Posted: 01:42:15 01/18/08 ()
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Soon, we will be giving a general amnesty to all those who have been blocked for violating the rules of the forum .
The political atmosphere and general state of the nation are too exciting and dramatic and we want to promote free discussion of national issues on this forum.
We will however deploy our IP indicator so that people do not take advantage of our gesture.
I will discuss the matter with the Moderator, Forum Police and officials of the COCORIOKO newspaper . I will get back to you tomorrow on the issue.
It was not our intention to block people , but our hands were forced by people who do not believe that they must obey the rules of the forum.
Those who abuse our gesture will not be allowed to participate on the forum.
We hope when people return to the forum, they will learn to discuss burning matters affecting the nation and stop unnecessary personal attacks. Our nation has too many problems and this forum can play a useful role to suggest solutions to the problems. Diplomats, stakeholders and members of the international community as well as the President and members of the government read this forum on a day-to-day basis.
We therefore appeal to everybody to inculcate a sense of nationalism, patriotism and responsibility
Subject: Re: 2008 GENERAL AMNESTY SOON
From: LOW GRADE SAN SAN.
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Date Posted: 09:08:48 01/18/08 ()
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will discuss the matter with the Moderator, Forum Police and officials of the COCORIOKO newspaper . Kabs Kanu.
I have decided, to follow the rules. Moderator before me, two forum police beside me. Rev. behind me, with his dog collar, to click my ears, if i cause Trouble. So no turning back no turning back.
Thanks Rev. for your kind gesture. Enjoy your weekend
Always LGSS
Subject: BIO IN PREZO DELEGATION
From: man pikin
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Date Posted: 21:26:23 01/17/08 ()
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I hope Prezo EBK is okay. I was surprised to know that Maada Bio is part of Prezo EBK delegation to Burkina Faso. Very interesting.
Subject: COCORIOKO WEBSITE SLUG
From: POLITICAL
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Date Posted: 21:04:58 01/17/08 ()
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Hey Kabs, what happened with your site? Did your webmaster put a refresh content code?
Subject: BRA E, BAI BUREH, KAWUSU, SGK, KALOS, LOGGY!
From: Fen Plaba!
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Date Posted: 19:34:35 01/17/08 ()
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This is the current #1 on the Fen Plaba charts. I boogie like that too! Yenyoy!
Subject: Re: BRA E, BAI BUREH, KAWUSU, SGK, KALOS, LOGGY!
From: KING LOGGY
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Date Posted: 01:30:46 01/19/08 ()
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FP:
What a coincident Bra!
My middle school aged daughter has a school project to design and produce a musical instrument out of a household item. For originality, we initially decided on the Kondi which we later cancelled because of the lack of material resources.
Meanwhile, after your posting, I now decide to try a vegetable oil container, the one gallon size, as a back up to the one we are presently working on.
I need help though with the keys and other required materials. How can you and other forumites help?
Subject: Re: BRA E, BAI BUREH, KAWUSU, SGK, KALOS, LOGGY!
From: Fen Plaba!
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Date Posted: 06:09:33 01/19/08 ()
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Oh how I wish I can help the young lady with her project! Unfortunately, I suck at this sort of creative endeavour. I wonder if the hair pins women use in their hair can serve as the keys of the Kondi. Maybe stretched-out paper clips? Sorry....
Subject: Re: BRA E, BAI BUREH, KAWUSU, SGK, KALOS, LOGGY!
From: KL
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Date Posted: 22:18:10 01/19/08 ()
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"Maybe stretched-out paper clips?"
Ha ha ha ha!
FP yu na de man!
Subject: Re: BRA E, BAI BUREH, KAWUSU, SGK, KALOS, LOGGY!
From: KALOS
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Date Posted: 14:15:57 01/18/08 ()
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Oh Fen Plaba, you never stop to amaze me. I am a huge fan of the late BASSIE KONDIE. I was making in-roads in my little efforts to help you realize your dream, but, with this latest revelation, it is doubtful. Can you imagine the background of kondie music with SYLVIA Blyden in your sacred arms?
Subject: Re: BRA E, BAI BUREH, KAWUSU, SGK, KALOS, LOGGY!
From: Kawusu
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Date Posted: 09:23:36 01/18/08 ()
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Fen Plaba,
Great music. Reminds me of the good old days with my girlfriend in Tonkolili.
Subject: Re: BRA E, BAI BUREH, KAWUSU, SGK, KALOS, LOGGY!
From: Bai Bureh
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Date Posted: 05:08:50 01/18/08 ()
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Kool Orlangbah! That is Salone's original music.First it was booboo music and now kondi music-so rich!
Ever heard of Skilful Jahsons? Now watch this and enjoy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqsItscfEUw
Subject: Re: BRA E, BAI BUREH, KAWUSU, SGK, KALOS, LOGGY!
From: BRA ENVIABLE
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Date Posted: 23:26:41 01/17/08 ()
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Cool stuff, Fen Plaba. I like the vibes.
Subject: Before I leave, small cola nuts for the jubilation.
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 19:00:06 01/17/08 ()
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTJGWYk4Kyo
Subject: Wow! A lot of people are out today. What's going on!
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 18:57:45 01/17/08 ()
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Greetings my brothers and sisters. I am very glad to say that Sierra Leone will change for the better. The amount of Sierra Leoneans who are saying these days, "I told you so," are many. The number of Sierra Leoneans who will recall the act of Sierra Leoneans disgruntled and vehemently trying all dirty tricks to see another Sierra Leonean down just because they wish to be in the fore-front even when they do not have the character, integrity, knowledge to do so, are now saying that is the "Sierra Leonean mentality," haven examined and experiencing the same attitude portrayed by some Sierra Leoneans, are now reassured of their beliefs more than ever.
But gradually, as this education spreads, the number of haters dwindle, and attention and focus is turned to more significant issues, to the real players and to the mechanisms that will usher-in change. Then we shall see lasting change for the betterment of the country as a whole.
I am glad many have come-out in great number to celebrate. The forum has never, in about four years or more, this silent. I see jubilant people all over the place. I hope the forum continues to be open and you stick around.
I have been in the United States 17 years. Got married for five years. Have a ten-year-old daughter so I am always glad when I see her peers. I will never forget how I went to Sacramento, what I did there and how I returned. Never forget that.
Well I will leave you now in your jubilation. I hope it lasts.
Ha!
Subject: CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL US THE STORY BEHIND THIS STORY
From: YONGAWO
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Date Posted: 18:53:33 01/17/08 ()
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I am of the opinion that the real story behind the so called as Cocorioko put it, "dethronement" of the City's number one 'gentleman' is yet to be told. Unless I'm proven wrong, I think the reasons given for his removal, which have been so far posted on the web are fronts. Please Mr. Mayor, break your silence and help us solve the riddle behind your removal.
STOP PLAYING POLITICS WITH OUR CITY. FOR NOW IT IS THE FIRST POINT OF CALL FOR EVERYONE VISITING SIERRA LEONE.
Subject: NAR WETIN DAE MAYOR DO?
From: BRA ENVIABLE
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Date Posted: 18:32:43 01/17/08 ()
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Has the Mayor of Freetown kicked up a shindy? What is the true story behind the shake-up within the mayoral confines of power? It was only recently that I read an article in which the embattled Mayor talked about waging War Against Indiscipline. Heaven knows, Sierra Leone, not Freetown alone, needs a war against indiscipline within the ambit of democratic politics.
"War Against Indiscipline" is reminiscent of Brigadier Baba Tunde Indiagbon, the man who was later promoted to Major-General and embellished with the post of "Chairman, Supreme Headquarters." The Buhari-Idiagbon regime was short-lived, and the palace coup that brought Babangida to power did everything to make Idiagbon a non-issue.
What did our {Mayoral} Idiagbon do? Are we seeing democracy at work in a manner that says the law is not a respecter of persons? Has the Mayor issued a statement to explain his own side of the story?
Subject: Re: NAR WETIN DAE MAYOR DO?
From: Fen Plaba!
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Date Posted: 19:05:59 01/17/08 ()
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I can't wait to hear the Mayor's side of the story too. However the terrible state of Freetown is indictment enough of Da Mayor's time in power. As Freetown drowned in filth and nastiness, the mayor was getting arthritis in his finger by strenuously pointing fingers at SLPP whom he accused of witholding funds and sabotaging him for partisan reasons. And he had the gall to oppose the cleaning crews of Freetown because they were not sanctioned by Lord Mayor Red Robes! I am glad the mayor got dumped by the councillors. I hope other APC Agbagbas take note too. Eef U nor do U jab nar da big govment office, den go sack U!
By the way I can't wait to read the Standard Times tomorrow as Philip Neville launches his red-seeking missiles now that his buddy and benefactor Wainstaley has been given the boot. Mud is gonna fly.
Subject: hi Kabs
From: King Naimbana
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Date Posted: 17:37:45 01/17/08 ()
Email Address: bonnicky@gmail.com
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Kabs I promised i can burst you . i am back in ful form
Subject: Re: hi Kabs
From: Moderator
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Date Posted: 20:03:31 01/17/08 ()
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KN,
You were put under a three day suspension, and only restored about twenty four hours ago.
However, if your mission here is to harrass or hassle, then you risk being sent away for a longer period. I should have listened to the reverend.
Cheers!
/Moderator
Subject: Re: hi Kabs
From: KABS KANU
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Date Posted: 20:55:41 01/17/08 ()
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The hobo is not a serious person.Why bother with such scum ?