FEBRUARY ARCHIVE:  02.03.08 - 02.10.08



Subject: NEW PEOPLE CORRESPONDENT: NO NAME?
From: DECEPTION
To: All
Date Posted: 11:55:01 02/10/08 ()
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The So called THE NEW PEOPLE site engaging in so called NEWS about sa lone is deceptive. The problem is their freetown correspondent has never mention his/her name in the articles. This left many of us with the suspicion that the so called correspondent is not real but a figment of their propaganda machine. It must have been sheku kallon who is writing this bogus articles claiming to have come from a so called correspondent. If your correspondent in freetown is real why don't you mention his/her name in the articles. Or is it just a deception?


Subject: Alpha Saidu is a real idiot
From: Town Crier
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Date Posted: 10:08:28 02/10/08 ()
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I have read Alpha Saidu's rantings on this forum and I have come to the conclusion that the man is an idiot.

His latest rantings against Kabs is just stupid. Who told him that the Publisher of a newspaper can be somebody else's boss ?

Far as I know about newspaper heirarchy , the Publisher is the boss of the newspaper.

Alpha Saidu has had his inane articles on this forum deleted by Kabs or the moderator and some of us thought initially that they were biased against him .

I do not feel so anymore after reading Alpha Saidu's latest rantings against the entire Cocorioko.I support the idea to have him banned for life from this forum.


Subject: Re: Alpha Saidu is a real idiot
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 11:07:59 02/10/08 ()
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He's not the only one.

If you cannot find a space in your heart (or even in your head) to forgive him then why not just have him banned for as long as your anger lasts - or is it the everlasting kind of anger ?


Subject: Re: Alpha Saidu is a real idiot
From: Kumboh
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Date Posted: 11:13:19 02/10/08 ()
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he may not be the only one but he is the MOST EGGREGIOUS and his banning has absolutely nothing to do with anger. Its more like people have had enough of his uncouth, divisive and tendency to prevaricate.


Subject: HOW TO DEAL WITH TRASHY POSTINGS IN THE FORUM
From: Umpire
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Date Posted: 10:06:34 02/10/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
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Should I unsurprisingly assume that the canons posited in my posting "Contribution to the Personal Attack Bramble Bush" are arguably sound, here is an effective prophylactic for all postings that buck the mentioned canons: Label them trash! Accordingly, I urge responsible patriots to ground their positions on arguments, whether they be factual, logical, juridical, bookish, or commonsensical.

ORDER
UPON REASONED CONSIDERATION of Umpire's "Contribution to the Personal Attack Bramble Bush" and, it appearing, after reasonably notice and opportunity, no Opposition thereto has been filed, it is this day and forever thereafter hereby ORDERED that all postings in this august forum that abrogate the canons or rules posited in the aforementioned "Contribution," shall be justifiably deemed trash. So ordered, by the Court of Common Sense in the Judicial District of Uncommon Sense, Freetown, Sierra Leone.


Subject: Re: HOW TO DEAL WITH TRASHY POSTINGS IN THE FORUM
From: M. Alieu Iscandarii Esq
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Date Posted: 10:54:19 02/10/08 ()
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Maybe we should start with your posts which in my opinion are lacking in effective communication, infused with unimpressive verbiage, and unconnected syntax. Lets start with your nonsensical posts and declare them Trashy because they indeed are. I have never been impressed with your choice of words and being a student of english myself I shudder to think how much difficulty other less endowed people on the forum would have understanding your posts. My thirteen year old who is an avid reader of the posts on this forum has always had problems with reading you trashy posts and has come to me with questions about your choice of words and the manner you put then together which many a time makes no sense at all and is so totally unimpressive.

I ask that you adopt the Obama mantra CHANGE.

Stay Blessed


Subject: Re: HOW TO DEAL WITH TRASHY POSTINGS IN THE FORUM
From: salone man
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Date Posted: 11:39:14 02/10/08 ()
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ALIEU,WHY ARE YOU TURNING YOUR REVOLVER ON INNOCENT UMPIRE WHO EVERY GOOD CITIZENS OF THIS FORUM BELIEVE WRITE WELL.IS IT BECAUSE HE CRITISIZED YOUR POSTING ABOUT HILLARY CLINTON?COMMON MAN YOUR KNOW BETTER THAN THAT.YOU SEE THIS IS THE PROBLEM WITH US,SOMEBODY DOES NOT BUY OUR POSITION,YOU TURN YOUR REVOLVER ON HIM.

POOR UMPIRE,I FEEL SORROW FOR YOU.YOU DON'T DESERVE THIS.HOLD YOUR FIRE.

I DISAGREE WITH YOU ALLIEU UMPIRE WRITES WELL.YOU KNOW THAT, YOU ARE JUST REFUSING TO ACCEPT THAT FACT.

ALLIEU FOR GOD SAKE, YOUR BOY IS JUST THIRTEEN YEARS OLD.TELL HIM TO WAIT A LITTLE WHILE,HE WILL BE SMARTER JUST LIKE YOU.DON'T BRING YOUR SON INTO THE WAR YOU WANT TO START WITH UMPIRE.ASK MAHATMA.

ALIEU I SEE TROUBLE COMING FOR YOU.I KNOW UMPIRE JUST RECEIVED A NEW CONSIGNMENT OF THE LATEST MISSILES(BIG AND DANGEROUS WORDS) FROM THE SWEDISH LIBRARY NEXT TO HIM.ASK MAHATMA.


Subject: Re: HOW TO DEAL WITH TRASHY POSTINGS IN THE FORUM
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 11:43:13 02/10/08 ()
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ok a man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still. I am not convinced and so it goes


Subject: Re: HOW TO DEAL WITH TRASHY POSTINGS IN THE FORUM
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 11:34:51 02/10/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-114-169-98.hsd1.dc.comcast.net at 76.114.169.98

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Assuming you are a lawyer, I am amazed by your unjudicious disposition. But, that's a matter between you and your clients. Please reread the relevant posting, and under the Order, please specify in a lawyerly manner "the trash" in my postings, as I construed that locution, therin.

Now, to your trashy posting: even my puddle cannot decipher even the seedling of an argument in what I am objectively constrained, by the canons, to characterize as your trashy posting. Sir: where are your arguments on the original issues, namely the issue of Hillary's trip and her senior thesis? Posit and elaborate them! I wont't allow you to smuggle obfuscatory lawyerly tricks into the discussion. God knows I did not throw the first molotov; you did. Now: let's rumble with arguments, not conclusory, circular, and bareknuckled averments. Fair enough, Sir? Additionally, I implore you to adopt,nay embrace Rene Descartes' heuristic: think! Regarding your self-serving self characterization as a "student of (sic) english," I invite others to pass on your command of the King's English.


Subject: Re: HOW TO DEAL WITH TRASHY POSTINGS IN THE FORUM
From: Referee
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Date Posted: 11:45:59 02/10/08 ()
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Umpire, beware you are going up against one of the toughest baddest cyber warriors on any sierra leonean forum. Alieu iscandari aka wascalleh is unrelenting. he has kicked everyone ass that has come up against him. If you dont believe me ask that guy called sengbe kounawah. Alieu placed him into self imposed exile.


Subject: Re: HOW TO DEAL WITH TRASHY POSTINGS IN THE FORUM
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 11:40:47 02/10/08 ()
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same old trashy postings nothing has changed. I implore you to change from writing unimpressive trash to something more positive and productive. On the issue of molotovs, I dont do violence, so you can rule that out of the calculus. The point I am making is that you use and overuse of many polysylabic words sometimes make for difficult reading and more so when you dont hit the point and move on. Thas my last posting on the issue. I have said my piece now lets move on.


Subject: Re: HOW TO DEAL WITH TRASHY POSTINGS IN THE FORUM
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 12:09:08 02/10/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
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Glory to logic! And this brother is a lawyer? The Bard was right: "let's kill all the lawyers!" Address the original issue Bra, namely Mrs. Clinton's trip and her senior thesis. Or, should I assume, given your refusal to revisit the argument, that your original posting and those that piggyback on them are, under the mother of discursive protocols---prove controversial statements---trash? And this, after a clear directive had been propounded on the matter?

The hubris, O the hubris: you may have made your "last posting on the issue." Good God Almighty: what "issue"? You raised an issue about Mrs. Clinton, and when I challenged you to put your arguments on the table, you wrapped yourself in the mantle of obscurantism. That may be good for your intellectual constitution. Amazing, is it not, that after your surrender, you order: "lets (sic) move on.(sic) Who is the implied "we" here? Count me out of that set, bitte.


Subject: Re: HOW TO DEAL WITH TRASHY POSTINGS IN THE FORUM
From: Disillusioned Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 11:24:15 02/10/08 ()
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Allieu, I give you thumbs up for finally exposing umpire deficiencies. Umpire wants us to believe he's educated but only succeeded in proving that he's disillusioned. I mean this guy CANNOT construct a single sentence correctly. If you look at his postings you'll see how disconnected his sentences are.
I wonder who he's rying to impress on this forum when infact many of us here are professionals. Umpire thinks he knows a lot of philosophy...whether this is true or not is not my point, my point is that Umpire lacks the basics of the English language and he knows that.


Subject: Re: HOW TO DEAL WITH TRASHY POSTINGS IN THE FORUM
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 11:46:02 02/10/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
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An Allieu epigoni: under the Order, please specify in concreto, Umpire's "disconnected...sentences...." Moreover, prove that "...Umpire lacks the basics of the English language...." Perspicuously, what Umpire knows or thinks he knows is, sensus strictu, evidently irrelevant to issues at hand. Fellow patriots, ah lie?


Subject: Re: HOW TO DEAL WITH TRASHY POSTINGS IN THE FORUM
From: You lie
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Date Posted: 12:08:41 02/10/08 ()
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Fellow patriots, ah lie?


YES YOU LIE


Subject: Re: HOW TO DEAL WITH TRASHY POSTINGS IN THE FORUM
From: Alieu Watcher
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Date Posted: 11:36:07 02/10/08 ()
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You can trust that alieu iscandari will speak his mind under all circumstances. this umpire has just run into his john mcenroe


Subject: Re: HOW TO DEAL WITH TRASHY POSTINGS IN THE FORUM
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 12:14:15 02/10/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
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Indeed, a mind bereft of arguments.


Subject: Re: HOW TO DEAL WITH TRASHY POSTINGS IN THE FORUM
From: referee
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Date Posted: 12:19:59 02/10/08 ()
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listen to referee brother, you cant take Iscandari down in a fight one on one. The guy is a warrior. When its wasnt cool to be APC alieu was APC and publically said so. were you around when the SLPP used to come down on him? Did you see how they all fell on the wayside?


Subject: Sierra Leone: First Foreign Policy Blunder
From: Madingo man
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Date Posted: 10:02:42 02/10/08 ()
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Concord Times (Freetown)
OPINION
8 February 2008
Posted to the web 8 February 2008
Umaru Fofana
Freetown
When Nigeria and Cote D'Ivoire almost had a spat over who should succeed Javier Pérez de Cuéllar de la Guerra as the UN Secretary General, it underscored how far a country can, should and must go to fill a vacancy in a foreign organisation.
Abuja had put forward Joe Garba, while Abidjan had presented Amara Essy to head the world body. Here we were ignoring at best or even excoriating Dr James Jonah for what some deemed as his snub at the time for his native Sierra Leone. Whatever that meant!

No disregard for the late Garba (who was president of the UN General Assembly), Essy who was foreign minister of Ivory Coast and President of the UN Security Council, or even Dr Boutrous Boutrous Ghalli who emerged the winner. But Dr Jonah was perhaps best placed for the job. He was Under-Secretary-General of the organisation and, more crucially, had risen through the ranks.
Excepting, of course, that Dr Ghalli, then Egypt's foreign minister had his country fully behind him. Of course no comparing the diplomatic clout of Cairo and Freetown! But if the latter had backed Dr Jonah, one western diplomat told me some time ago, that could have made him a more serious contender that he probably would have benefited from what Kofi Annan later benefited from - having been in the UN system.
So Dr Jonah never had the chance to become the first black UN chief. But his was not the same as that which befell the Tanzanian diplomat Salim Ahmed Salim, who got the whole world voting for him to succeed Kurt Waldheim, thanks to his country. But the United States vetoed his candidacy.
Dr Salim later returned to become the last secretary-general of the Organisation of African Unity and oversaw its transition to the African Union. It is the failure of Sierra Leone to lead that Union last month that has marked the first foreign policy blunder of the Ernest Koroma presidency and probably the worst since the AFRC regime that led to international sanctions against the country.
Sickeningly, because of the political bigotry that has taken the best of the thinking of many a Sierra Leonean, some may be rubbing their hands with glee that Dr Abdulai O Conteh failed to become President of the AU Commission. Or for the same reason that some are postulating that the AFRC coup was the best to happen to this country. How sad!
Anyway! I first heard of the candidacy of Dr Abdulai O Conteh to succeed Alpha Omar Konare, only on the eve of the summit of African heads of state. By the way the post went to Jean Ping, Gabon's deputy prime minister and foreign minister. A francophone succeeding another francophone. It is probably one of those self-restraining unwritten rules that such giants like Nigeria and South Africa do not vie for such a post. In the same way as no citizen of such world powers as the US, UK, Russia or Germany has ever become Secretary-General of the United Nations.
So there was Sierra Leone, submitting the only West African candidate for the continent's top diplomatic job, and losing out. Yet nobody has bothered to explain to us as a nation, what went wrong! In fact, one West African diplomat in Freetown told me that he only learned of Dr Conteh's candidacy two days before the summit. Typical Muammar Ghadaffi style, eh?
Dr Abdulai Conteh is such a brilliant and selfless citizen of the world, I think, that if Freetown had sold him well the rest of the continent would have bought him with their last penny. His contribution to the continent and country, and now to Belize where he is chief justice, is no mean feat. One thing that has not dawned on most of us is that we are now a proud member of what I will call the League of Democratic Countries, alongside Ghana, Benin, South Africa and Botswana among not too many on the continent. That is definitely a high ground on which to stand tall.
One may be tempted to think that the government is less than five months in office; hence not much time for an entente cordiale with other counties. But it has already attended several international meetings among them the Commonwealth summit, another organisation apart from ECOWAS that we should have canvassed to change the official address of Dr Conteh.
President Koroma and his foreign minister, Zainab Bangura also attended the ECOWAS summit. The government's apparent cosy relationship with Burkina Faso and Senegal, plus our long-standing relations with Guinea are all plusses. In the absence of another West African candidate, why could they not market Dr Conteh? It almost burns to cinders our foreign policy acumen.
Relevant Links

West Africa
International Organizations and Africa
Sierra Leone



I would imagine if the government was not prepared enough, they should have held on to presenting a candidate for the post, instead of doing so without adequate prior ground work. We cannot afford to be embarking on enterprises that we know we cannot succeed in. We want well calculated foreign policy odysseys, not strolls. Deliberately planned with a view to giving us the clout we deserve internationally.
Have we ever asked ourselves why, if the Senegalese president for example says something about international affairs it carries far more weight than if our president does? That perception that Dakar is more democratic than Freetown is fast becoming a myth, I think. We enjoy far more freedom here than Senegalese do.
Our elections were far more democratic than theirs were. The difference probably is that they have a far superior foreign policy strategy. In our case, for many years, it has always been higgledy-piggledy. This MUST change!


Subject: Re: Sierra Leone: First Foreign Policy Blunder
From: New Blood
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Date Posted: 11:03:39 02/10/08 ()
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Madingo Man I am sure that "Or Lawyer don rub oil en sully im character" long before you or Umaru became active in your present vocation of support for him which I believe is undetermined by reason and facts or balance required in such process.

Oona day support Conteh for several personal reasons but I am sure that none of you Know him well or are conversant with his paper trail of a morally reprehensible record.

Your arguments are devoid of pertinent knowledge about his past that can be utilized to enhance any sensible support for his future.

I am sure that young Umaru and Mandingo Man understand that To Govern the AU is to choose ..but they are yet to grasp the significance that the choice they have unfortunately concerned themselves with,is one focused on an imperfect proposition that is offered.


Subject: Re: Sierra Leone: First Foreign Policy Blunder
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 11:21:36 02/10/08 ()
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All politics is personal and the same goes for those who support or are against Dr. Abdulai Conteh. I am old enough to be conversant with Dr. AO Conteh and his role in sierra leonean politics. Maybe its time we get everything out in the open. Please tell me what "Morally" bankrupt act he has committed. Lets list all the things that he is reported to have done so that we can clearly distinguish fact from SLPP fiction.


Subject: Re: Sierra Leone: First Foreign Policy Blunder
From: Umpire
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Date Posted: 10:21:45 02/10/08 ()
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Is this journalism? Assuming that the elections were not rigged, and the article alludes to no such phenomenon, then it pointless in a democratic selection to demand reasons, i.e. arguments for the outcome of a democratic contest. This riff is the raison d,etre of the democratic theory of "elections." Of course, one is free to speculate about the outcome of elections, but to demand "reasons," as here, is countersensical.


Subject: NES FLASH ON HILLARY CLINTON
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 07:25:10 02/10/08 ()
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NEWS FLASH !
Hillary Was AGAINST the Civil Rights Act of 1964
While a Republican and 'Goldwater Girl'

I know and appreciate that Barack Obama has taken the high road, but as a black
man it is important to me that we all know the TRUTH about Hillary. Read This.....THEN
SPREAD THE WORD !!!!

A March 12, 2007 article written by acclaimed Washington columnist Robert Novak
sheds a very revealing light on the true sentiment of Hillary Clinton during the
peak of the Civil Rights Movement. Clinton recently was found to have minimized
the great and monumental strides taken by Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. by stating
that it was Lyndon B. Johnson, then president, who should receive the credit for
the ci vil rights progress including the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

In an attempt to attract black support Hillary Clinton regularly shares her 'civil
rights experience' during every speech given to black audiences. Novak writes
of one such speech at Selma's First Baptist Church on the 42nd anniversary of
the 'bloody Sunday' freedom march there, where Sen. Clinton declared: 'As
a young woman, I had the great privilege of hearing Dr. King speak in Chicago. The
year was 1963. My youth minister from our church took a few of us down on a cold
January night to hear [King]. . . . And he called on us, he challenged us that evening
to stay awake during the great revolution that the civil rights pioneers were waging
on behalf of a more perfect union.' But Novak's article states that there's
a big problem with her statement.

The fact is, in 1963, not only was Hillary Clinton a republican, but she was also
a staunch supporter of republican Senator Barry Goldwater, well known as a segr
egationist and one of the most vocal senators adamently against the passing of the
Civil Rights Act of 1964, which is why he lost in his presidential bid to Lyndon
B. Johnson. Novak writes '...how then could she be a 'Goldwater Girl'
in the next year's presidential election?' He continues, '...she described
herself in her memoirs as 'an active Young Republican' and 'a Goldwater
girl, right down to my cowgirl outfit.'

Novak adds, 'As a politically attuned honor student, she must have known that
Goldwater was one of only six Republican senators who joined Southern Democratic
segregationists opposing the historic voting rights act of 1964 inspired by King.
Hillary headed the Young Republicans at Wellesley College. The incompatibility of
those two positions of 40 years ago was noted to me (Novak) by Democratic old-timers
who were shocked by Sen. Clinton's temerity in pursuing her presidential candidacy.'
Novak adds, 'What Hillary Clinton said at Selma is significant because it betrays
her campaign's panicky reaction to the unexpected rise of Sen. Obama as a serious
competitor for the Democratic nomination.

Clinton's plans were transformed by the advent of Obama, an African-American
threatening the hard allegiance of black voters forged by Bill Clinton. On one hand,
the Clinton campaign has attacked Obama and his supporters. On the other hand, she
has sought to solidify her civil rights credentials.

While Clinton was re-inventing her past, her road to the White House is not going
as planned. Instead of a steady procession to coronation at the Denver convention,
she is involved in a real struggle against credible opponents led by Obama. No wonder
she and her handlers were tempted to imply the existence long ago of a young lady
in Chicago's suburbs who never really existed.'

We greatly appreciate Mr. Novak's findings which bring one main thought to
mind. Wake up Black America! DON'T BE FOOLED ! The fact is, despite her falsehoods,
Hi llary was AGAINST the passing of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 that Dr. Martin
Luther King died for. As a 'Goldwater Girl' she was actually even against
Lyndon B. Johnson, the very person she now gives the credit to for Dr. King getting
to the mountaintop. She has worked extremely hard to hide many truths about her
past, including ordering that her 92 page college thesis that she wrote at Wellesley
College be 'sealed' and unavailable to the public, an order forced upon
the college by Bill Clinton while president, although all senior thesis' at
Wellesley have been available for public reading for over 100 years, except one....Hillary
Rodham Clinton's.

Reports have stated that information in her 'secret thesis' could be the
'Swift Boat' ammo to be used by the Republican Party against her should
she become the nominee. (read more about 'secret thesis' at MSNBC)

In addition to re-inventing her past, the most obvious new Billary Clinton strategy
is to use 'Token Negroes' like BET Founder Bob Johnson, Tavis Smiley, and
Magic Johnson to name a few, to attack and discredit Barack Obama, a tactic which
many blacks find additionally offensive, calling these black Clinton cronies 'sell-outs'.
Spread the word....share the facts. The Clinton's have been conning the black
community for a long time and are NOT what they claim to be. I bet they go home
at night, pour some expensive wine, kick their feet up and just laugh like crazy
about what big black suckers we are. But now, it's time to prove them wrong
!

By: Greg Jones


Subject: Re: NES FLASH ON HILLARY CLINTON
From: Leonean
To: All
Date Posted: 12:02:39 02/10/08 ()
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You have now switched pulling down your country men to an honourable lady. You may like Obama because you are black, but do not fall for that Republican propaganda. Most of the southerners you see today grew up in the era of segregation and there is no way you can look back into their history without them having them being linked at one time to a segregationist.
One way you can really judge people politically is to look at the aggregate of their actions over their timespan. If you do this you will find out that Hillary has always been an advocate and proponent of civil rights.
As Sierra Leone we are fond of bringing people down, Alieu, but Hillary is a far better person than your bigoted self will ever be. Hail to Obama-Clinton and down with their detractors.


Subject: Re: NES FLASH ON HILLARY CLINTON
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 12:11:54 02/10/08 ()
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My bigoted self believes that you are tooo stupid to notice that that article was not writen by me but rather by someone whose name appears on the bottom of the article.


Subject: Re: NES FLASH ON HILLARY CLINTON
From: Don Osman
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Date Posted: 10:18:05 02/10/08 ()
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Alieu, thanks for exposing this lady for who she really is. The fact that her campaign had to resort to calling Obama names and using the race card to breed fear in the hearts of white folks, betrays her true nature and character.


Subject: Re: NES FLASH ON HILLARY CLINTON
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 10:29:09 02/10/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
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Message:
Sorry, bra: no exposure has gone down, no pun intended. The issues here are determinate: the significance of an alleged trip by Mrs. Clinton and the content of her senior thesis. The global issues of her "true nature and character" are best left to God. Let's stick with the pertinent issues on this potentially explosive problem.


Subject: Re: NES FLASH ON HILLARY CLINTON
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 08:20:15 02/10/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
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Message:
Full Disclosure: I HAVE NO INTEREST IN AFRICAN-AMERICAN POLITICAL AND CULTURAL ISSUES.

It appears to me that Hillory's alleged trip with her pastor to hear King is not inconsistent with her support for Goldwater, as a matter of logic and fact. What Novak needs to prove is that the trip never happened. He has not done so.

Moreover, the thesis argument is inconclusive, if not irrelevant. It would be relevant if and only if the thesis were the only document sealed by the Cintons. The contrary holds. The issue could be conclusively resolved only if the thesis is unsealed, AND, first, the thesis contains text relevant to the issue, and second, if such text is embodied therein, no reasonable equivocation attaches to it.


Subject: SALONE GOVERNMENTITIS
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 06:03:34 02/10/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
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Message:
Here is a sober, no holds barred phenomenological descr1ption of a significant chunk of political discourse and narrative in Sierra Leone:

Phenomenological Descr1ption: It rained cats and dogs for seven days.
Discourse and Narrative: The Government is liable.

Phenomenological Descr1ption: Teenage prostitutes are ubiquitous at Lumley.
Discourse and Narrative: The Government is liable.

Phenomenological Descr1ption: The Leone is worthless.
Discourse and Narrative :Blame the Government.

Phenomenological Descr1ption: There is no meat, rice,fufu, etc. in relevant markets.
Discourse and Narrative : Government liability.

Phenomenological Descr1ption: Too many school and university dropouts.
Discourse and Narrative : Government liability.

Phenomenological Descr1ption: Sparse Mosque and Church attendees.
Discourse and Narrative : Blame the Government.

Phenomenological Descr1ption: Your uncle has just bought a Mercedes ZZZ; built a mansion; dons five grand suits; and he is government worker at Customs, earning a salary of less than 200 bucks a month.

Discourse and Narrative : Praise the Lord! Glory to God!


Subject: Re: SALONE GOVERNMENTITIS
From: salone man
To: All
Date Posted: 11:04:29 02/10/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
UMPIRE,YOU ARE A GREAT WRITER,BUT I BELIEVE ONE OF THE OATH THAT EVERY GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS TOOK WAS THE UPHOLDING AND PROTECTION OF THE CONSTITUTION.SO,IF A CUSTOMS OFFICIAL IS CORRUPT,IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT TO ENFORCE THE LAW BY INVESTIGATING AND ISSUING OUT AN APPROPRIATE WARRANT OF ARREST AND FILING CHARGES AGAINST THE CORRUPT OR ROUGH CUSTOMS OFFICIAL.IT IS ALSO THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE JUDGICIAL BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT TO INTERPRET THE LAW AND PUNISH OR PASS OUT JAIL TERMS,IF THE SAID CUSTOMS OFFICIAL IS FOUNDED GUILTY.

HAVING SAID THAT,IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE GOVERNMENT TO PUT IN PLACE COMPETENT PEOPLE WHO CAN IDENTIFY AND FIGHT CORRUPTION.IT IS INDEED THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE GOVERNMENT.

THE CONSEQUENCIES OF UNCHECKED CORRUPTION COULD BE ONE OR ALL OF THE FOLLOWING.ACUTE POVERTY(SCARCITY OF NEEDED PRODUCTS AND UNAFFORDABLE PRICES),AN IMPOVERISH NATION(SECOND FROM THE BOTTOM ON ALL UN HUMAN INDEXES),REBELLION(RUF,KAMAJORS,ETC),"COUP DE TAT"(NPRC,AFRC,ETC).

WE DON'T WANT TO GO BACK TO THOSE DARK DAYS AGAIN.THAT IS WHY I AM CALLING ON ALL SIERRA LEONEAN TO PUT ASIDE ALL TRIBAL,POLITICAL AND SELF-INTEREST SENTIMENT AND HOLD OUR PRESENT GOVERNMENT AND FUTURE GOVERNMENTS RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY CORRUPTION THAT UNDERMINE THE SURVIVAL OF OUR NATION.

INFACT ONE OF THE MAIN REASON WHY APC WON THE JUST CONCLUDED ELECTION IS THE MASSIVE CAMPAIGN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY IN SIERRA LEONE LAUNCHED AGAINST GOVERNMENT CORRUPTION IN THE FORM OF SONGS-"TWO FOOT ARATA"."BOBOR BELLEH" TO NAME ONLY BUT FEW.SO,THE PEOPLE OF SIERRA LEONE SET THE STAGE FOR APC,WHO CAMPAIGN AGAINST CORRUPTION RIGOROUSLY AND SUCCEEDED TO KICK SLPP OUT.


Subject: Re: SALONE GOVERNMENTITIS
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 12:20:08 02/10/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
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Message:
Relax, bra. We're on the same page. For you only: it was an ironic posting. Laugh small, bra!


Subject: Re: SALONE GOVERNMENTITIS
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 08:32:42 02/10/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
This business of shirking personal responsibility and blaming every ill on the government is the reason why Sierra Leone and, indeed the continent, is so backward. Your skit aptly captures this morose syndrome that has sapped ingenuity from our people: Blame the gov'ment for all ills; absolve ourselves of all responsibility.

I was mildly amused over the discourse after the APC victory in the last elections. The focus was on who was gonna clean out on the top jobs and who was gonna be in the dog house of unemployment. It was a fight about government patronage and largesse, 'Northernization' IN, 'Southernization' OUT and corrosion of the ties that bind Salone. Very few mentioned how WE can do business in the country and create jobs and opportunity in a way the government can never.

Kennedy, where are you buddy? "Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country..."


Subject: Re: SALONE GOVERNMENTITIS
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 09:11:47 02/10/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-114-169-98.hsd1.dc.comcast.net at 76.114.169.98

Message:
Its Sunday: so, Amen! And, on the other matter, it is also Sunday, albeit, on a different ground. She is home: what a sight!


Subject: FEN PLABA and EDDIE GRANT are already members!Join us!
From: The Grandmaster of the MUKENDEH cult
To: All
Date Posted: 01:46:39 02/10/08 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: c83-248-83-123.bredband.comhem.se at 83.248.83.123

Message:
Those who want to get rich overnight should seriously think about joining the brotherhood.Just say YES and all your financial problems are solved.

Why waste time washing cars,distributing newspapers,digging graves or risking your life as a night watchman to earn a living in Europe or the States? Join the brotherhood and go back home a stinking rich man!


Subject: Re: FEN PLABA and EDDIE GRANT are already members!Join us!
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 08:53:42 02/10/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-4577b27b.dyn.optonline.net at 69.119.178.123

Message:
Grandmaster, you promised me billions and I am still as broke as a sawed-off MangoTik branch. What's going on? Bai Bureh, if I don't win the Megamillions jacjpot next Tuesday, I will go Kai Londo on you and quit the Mukendeh!


Subject: Re: FEN PLABA and EDDIE GRANT are already members!Join us!
From: Umpiew
To: All
Date Posted: 03:58:35 02/10/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-114-169-98.hsd1.dc.comcast.net at 76.114.169.98

Message:
As you can discern from the timing of this posting, I am an element of the set {newspaper} boys. I say YES: and I'm waiting for the money. I always deliver my newsrags prompto. I expect money, no joke.


Subject: Response to Umpire
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 00:33:03 02/10/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Umpire, sorry for the late response. As I indicated, I had to run therefore, I did not have the opportunity to respond until now. I must also thank you for such remarks. It should be no surprise. As long as one is human, one is expected to learn a thing or two from even the youngest child, if such a person opens their mind and is ready to learn. Even in schools and colleges, the Teacher or Lecturer, I am referring to a democratic Teacher or Lecturer, is expected to learn from his or her pupils or students. He or she sees them not as tabularizes but active participants.
Sadly, this phenomenon is not transposed in most of our African settings, in some, where children are driven to the back because elders are discussing, children are thrown to the bushes because they are intelligent or different, has resulted in the lack of creativity and independent thinking: resulting further to the confusion that causes anger in some adults when they cannot think creatively and decisively as others do, because creative and independent thinking is nourished from childhood.
On the contrary, in Western and other democratic settings, children are encouraged to exercise their minds; people are given free speech and free expression, which is responsible for the developments that take place in these countries and settings because people do not hide their feelings and ideas for fear that they can be scorned-upon or pushed to the bushes, secluded and or ostracized. I was thinking that that Africa is behind us. I was of the impression that such a savage world is behind us but I was mistaking.
We push those different from us, intelligent than us or as us to the back; we mock, cause their pains for cynicisms, we push them to the back so that we can be seen or even hate them instead of using their differences, intellect to our people’s advantage and us. Unfortunately, that is un-business-like but savage-like. In our discussions, I believe I mentioned that when we do not have answers, when our ideas are overshadowed or we cannot make ways to project ourselves, our ultimate answer is to get rid of opponents or don’t engage them at all, dismiss them, as you succinctly put it. This is why most great African thinkers have been murdered for political or other foolish explanations. People such as Osagifo, Nkwame Kruma, Patrice Lumumbu, Imilkal Cabral, Amadu Ahijo to name a few of the brilliant statesmen that were brutally murdered. The Age of Reasoning is an age that is now talk in our communities but active in Civilized Worlds, an age known as the Information Age.
Mr. Mohamed A. Jalloh and I have discussed here extensively, and as it has been exemplified on this forum and other quarters time and again, we are gripped by an astonishing Mentality, which has manifested itself on particularly, this forum. I hope and pray that the Colonial Mentality that has grasped our communities, whereby, even when we see wrongs done we find ways to squeeze our excellence and or edges to project our successes (the Masters success actually,) even when such master himself sides justice. It is appalling that even when that is known to be the truth, we try toothlessly to bend it with pseudo-craftsmanship of incredible un-excellence. Who has the right to take another human’s life (fake to make belief) because they have been promised? What is greater than the constitution in America? What is nationalism and national pride? What did I do that every one wishes to measure their successes, their mental capacity, their achievements or seriousness with me, in America for that matter and when all are educated? These are questions that come to mind when I try to rationalize the philosophy of Colonial Mentality.
I am proud to be me and I am glad to have this discussion with you. I wish all Africans will be as proud as I am to stand for what is right, contribute for the betterment of their countries and people and do not even take pride for such efforts because it is their responsibility, and then hail unblemished with all the efforts.
I wish you well in your search for the Mighty dollar. I wish our people well. I pray that we are free from slavery once and for all.


Subject: Re: Response to Umpire
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 04:08:46 02/10/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
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Message:
Thanks for your reasoned response. I agree with most of your assertions, which are fully argued. But, your questions? Only God knows the answers to them. I confess my ignorance; some matters transcend the scope of mere human reason.



Subject: Re: Response to Umpire
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 11:20:36 02/10/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Umpire, thanks for your honest and show of integrity. Today I was watching C-Span on the topic of President Bush's visit to Africa. The lady speaker, Madam Jennifer Cooke, Co-director of Africa Program, Center for Strategy & International Studies elaborated immensely on reasons Africa is under the prevalent condition. When asked by a Christian lady who was concerned about the Christian image of America, in contrast to the many killings of prominent political leaders that took place in Africa, such as the ones I made mention of last night, most of who were killed by us, the Africans themselves, though sponsored. Madam Cooke took painstaking efforts to cite that the Cold War had very active roles to play in these killings but failed to apportion some of the blame to Africans themselves who would endure to kill their blood for self-aggrandizement.
Indeed, certain things are better left unsaid because of the reluctance to accept responsibility for inaction.
I mentioned Colonial Mentality. If the questions I posed are baffling, let me rephrase them by asking, is frowning at an innocent, marginalized, brutalized though determined compatriot or other persons an African culture? Is punishing another person because it is presumed some one powerful is killing such a person an African culture? In other words, is bully or condoning it an African culture? Is imposing and manipulating to gain respect an African culture? Is using some one's ideas meant to promote our mother land against them an African culture? Is the lack of sympathy and or empathy an African culture? Jealousy can be any ones culture and it is the reason for the wars we have fought for decades, killing and maiming millions of people. That does not surprise me at all.
Does it astonish to know the hypocrisy and or ignorance we lived in for years? Some of us claim to condemn or criticize others because they view the latter as being brain-washed in that, their English or way of life some-what reflects that of people of host countries, different from what we presume to be African culture but my question is, how much did we wish to be the Colonial Master; or put in another way, how much did we wish to be brain-washed if these were issues we condemned others for but we perpetrate them? Is it not obvious that most of us want things just for ourselves, which is why we condemn, criticize or even wish death for those we hope not to have what we cannot afford? Better put, are we the brain-washed, in that we emulate everything that people of the “superior race” portray?
You are a man of high integrity I suppose, and would hope you maintain such integrity because most like you have come on this forum with such pretext but it was eventually proven that they cannot stand alone. As this character they presented was not built on solid foundation, they fell on the way side. I hope you will not join their cabal.
Once more, I salute you for your distinguished charisma. Yes, some things are better left untouched because no matter how small and easy to conceptualize they me be, the self sometimes stands between our integrity and our minds.
I hope Africa's culture returns, where respect is earned by the portrayal of good behaviour, intelligent reasoning, good character, where integrity, humility and honesty is key not the arrogant, haughty, rude, dishonest and irresponsible attitudes most Africans have now embraced. I am sorry for the use of such words but there is no other way to size-it-up when this is the attitude portrayed.
I am hopping for the day our true culture returns. Today most of us are in limbo. We are not adopting the ideals of our host countries because we do not understand them nor are we exhibiting the African culture. As such we are lost. May God help us.
Be good. Have a nice day.


Subject: ZAINAB BANGURA AS FOREIGN MINISTER
From: WHY
To: All
Date Posted: 00:18:01 02/10/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
CAN ZAINAB BANGURA TELL US,WHY SIERRA LEONE IS NOT INCLUDED AMONG THE COUNTRIES PRESIDENT BUSH WILL BE VISITING IN AFRICA.ARE WE NOT OVER QUALIFY NOW,WITH A PERFECT ELECTION CONDUCTED IN SIERRA LEONE AFTER YEARS OF WARS.LOOK AT KENYA.

WERE DID ZAINAB OR FOREIGN AFFAIR GO WRONG.DO WE NEED A BETTER OR MORE CONNECTED FOREIGN AFFAIR MINISTER TO MARKET SIERRA LEONE AND MAKE HER MORE ATTRACTIVE TO THE INDUSTRILISED NATION.

WITH ALL WHAT WENT ON AND IS GOING ON IN SIERRA LEONE I SEE NO REASON WHY THE US PRESIDENT WILL STOP IN LIBERIA WITHOUT VISITING SIERRA LEONE. SIERRA LEONE IS A CLASSIC CASE OF TRUE DEMOCRACY.


Subject: Re: ZAINAB BANGURA AS FOREIGN MINISTER
From: tamba moiwo
To: All
Date Posted: 07:26:05 02/10/08 ()
Email Address: moiwo@hotmail.co.uk
Entered From: gateway-303.energis.gsi.gov.uk at 62.25.109.196

Message:
"I SEE NO REASON WHY THE US PRESIDENT WILL STOP IN LIBERIA WITHOUT VISITING SIERRA LEONE"

My friend,its about colonial ties and perhaps economic ties to a very large extent.

When Tony Blair visited Salone on his way out,I did not hear Liberians shouting for him to 'drop-by'.Doyah lef Zainab saful..


Subject: Re: ZAINAB BANGURA AS FOREIGN MINISTER
From: Snake
To: All
Date Posted: 06:22:53 02/10/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: h167-156-253.63.chubb.com at 167.156.63.253

Message:
Why are you picking on Zainab ? You guys are sick on this forum .What has Zainab got to do with setting Bush's schedule ?


Subject: Re: ZAINAB BANGURA AS FOREIGN MINISTER
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 05:24:02 02/10/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
What does Zainab have to do with the scheduling of President Bush's visit to Africa? Isnt it wrong to un necessarily criticize the honorable minister for things that she has ABSOLUTELY no control over?


Subject: Re: ZAINAB BANGURA AS FOREIGN MINISTER
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 04:28:52 02/10/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-114-169-98.hsd1.dc.comcast.net at 76.114.169.98

Message:
Haven't you noticed that even the leading Republican Presidential 'front runner' avoids the shadow of Bush like the plague? Moreover, given our scarce resources, according to the 'experts' in 'development theory', the Salone government cannot afford to foot the security bill to guard Mr. Bush from, to use his favorite words in the English language, "the terrorists." Additionally, who is going to pay for the expensive dinners and liquor? I doubt that Mr. Bush would give a toast with a glass of omolay. How about a pitch, respectfully, no pun intended, to the US Ambassador to Sierra Leone? A Bush visit should upgrade his resume. There is your man.


Subject: Re: ZAINAB BANGURA AS FOREIGN MINISTER
From: Contri
To: All
Date Posted: 03:52:19 02/10/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Who is bush?


Subject: Re: ZAINAB BANGURA AS FOREIGN MINISTER
From: No nonsense
To: All
Date Posted: 04:36:09 02/10/08 ()
Email Address: none@yahoo.com
Entered From: proxy4.wlink.com.np at 202.79.62.14

Message:
The thing that was on fire and when Moses approached it and they had a discussion, he ended up roaming the desert for forty years


ha ha ha ha ha ha


Subject: Re: ZAINAB BANGURA AS FOREIGN MINISTER
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 04:32:21 02/10/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
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Message:
The President of greatest country on God's earth, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.


Subject: CONTRIBUTION TO THE PERSONAL ATTACK BRAMBLE BUSH
From: umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 19:32:45 02/09/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-114-169-98.hsd1.dc.comcast.net at 76.114.169.98

Message:
According to the policy of this forum, personal attacks are verbotten, prohibited. But what is a personal attack? I'll rephrase the question: what is a personal critique? First, to the extent that all ideas or ideational formations are generated by a person or persons, any critique directed at such ideas or ideational formations are personal. Hence, an appropriate question is the objective reference of "critique." A critique is, primordially, an evaluation of the valid scope of an idea or ideational formation; and, it is equally primordially, a determination of the limits of the valid scope an idea or ideational formation.

Clearly, under this analysis, a critique devoid of arguments is unadulterated nonsense. If, according to Kant, concepts without intuitions are blind, a critique lacking arguments is equally blind. I call it a personal attack. Or, trash.

For example, if I posit the negative critique that Mahatma-Foday cannot write, then if I fail to corroborate the critique with FACTUAL AND LOGICAL ARGUMENTS, reasonable inferences therefrom inclusive, then I would have unleashed an unjustifiable personal attack. The point is that a necessary condition of a personal attack is a negative judgment directed at a person; but such a condition does not ripen into a personal attack unless the sufficient condition---UNARGUED NEGATIVE JUDGMENT---is satisfied.

Sterile indeed would be a forum in which critique, as construed supra, is absent. This implies that all bareknucked, argument dirempt postings should be annulled. Justifiably, under my argument. We dae nar America, but that is hardly an argument for appropriating the American tragedy of the soundbite, the perfect vehicle for uncritical judgmental activity. I should think that the policy implications of my argument, assuming it is embraced by the Moderator, are obvious.


Subject: Re: CONTRIBUTION TO THE PERSONAL ATTACK BRAMBLE BUSH
From: No Nonsense
To: All
Date Posted: 04:42:15 02/10/08 ()
Email Address: none@yahoo.com
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Message:
WELL DONE PROFESSOR "SABI SABI". U NA REAL BOOKMAN. JUST DAE TALK U USUAL. ME NOR KNOW UDAT U KIN WAN IMPRESS SEF. BUT CARRY ON NOR MORE. AT LEAST U PIECE DEM KIN MAKE MAN DEM LAUGH SMALL.


Subject: Re: CONTRIBUTION TO THE PERSONAL ATTACK BRAMBLE BUSH
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 09:44:02 02/10/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-114-169-98.hsd1.dc.comcast.net at 76.114.169.98

Message:
Moderator, under my "Contribution to the Personal Attack Bramble Bush," No Nonsense's posting, even though it contains transparent ironic positive determinations, is a personal attack. It is therefore, according to the canons posited in "Contribution," trash.


Subject: Pedro Da Cintra
From: Ronaldino
To: All
Date Posted: 16:07:12 02/09/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Do you know that the mountain ranges that Pedro saw and named Serra Lyoa-Lion Mountain was just the peninsula ranges!
Is it time we had a country name change?


Subject: Re: Pedro Da Cintra
From: salone man
To: All
Date Posted: 00:22:27 02/10/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Please start taking your medication again and stop smoking...........ok.Remember your doctor warned you to quit.


Subject: Are Creoles an ethnic group, tribe, or cultural group?
From: Civil Discourse
To: All
Date Posted: 15:38:06 02/09/08 ()
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Message:
I have always wondered whether Creoles/Krios are an ethnic group, tribe, or cultural group. Or even if there are any differences between the 3.

I think this is important, simply because of the impact it could have on both reclaiming identities and embracing tradition and heritage.

For example, say one has identified him/herself as a Creole/Krio since the inception of the term/definition. Then at some point, the individual is able to trace his/her family roots to Nigeria (Yoruba)and Ghana (Asante), what then is the individual to do in regards to his/her identity? Does he/she still hold claim to being a Creole or embrace his/her actual ethnicity(ies) which in this case would be a Yoruba-Asante?

As from my understanding, the Creole culture was a manifestation of the melting pot of the many other ethnicities that existed in Freetown at that time. Creole in itself became such a definition of Freetonians, removing the distinctions caused by the many different ethnicities, and reaching a common culture that defined everyone as one. This common identification of a group of diverse people, over the years, caused a deviation from identifying with actual ethnicities (Yoruba/Asante/etc..) and a strong attachment to the term 'Creole'.

I think this has been one of the negative outcomes of the Creole Culture as I believe that there was much divine potential of this group, who could have utilized the advantage of being a diverse group in the promotion of pan-africanism and nationalism, driving the fundamental essence of the Creole Culture (a cosmopolitan nation).

This by far is still one of the greatest attributes of the Creole Culture, in that it is a cosmopolitan nation of various ethnicities, a diverse people sharing a common heritage and empowering their community from the foundation of their commonalities, as opposed to their differences. Creoles are not some form of physically ethnic unique people, rather Creoles are a Community, connected by a shared desire for education, empowerment, progress, and advancement in the human condition.

This is what I think the Creoles themselves failed to exemplify in their outreach to other indigenous communities. Rather than promote the fundamental essence of what defined the Creole Community, they chose to hold their esteem above all others, adapting to the western prototype of the inferiority complex, utilizing their advantage to define and solidify the distinctions between them and other indigenous communities. Till today, there are still references made by Creoles of 'contri mahn dem' or 'dem bahkwohd pipul' etc... Sustaining the insinuation that Creoles are still better than indigenous Africans simply because Creoles are Creoles.

The greatest mistake of the Creoles was to depart further away from the essence of the Creole culture, and embrace the prototype of the capitalist westernized nature of inferiority vs. civilized. The mistake was that Creoles became attached to the falsification that Creoles were an ethnic group tied by some sort of biological/physical distinction. This diminished their acceptance of their actual identities which in essence was (Asante, Yoruba, Temne, etc...) Now, although most Creoles learn about their actual biological/physical ethnicities, they choose to ignore it and hold on to the Creole mantle, thereby refusing to reclaim their identities as indegenous Africans themselves.

However, please be aware that there are many Creoles who do identify with their roots, who do promote the essence of the Creole culture of nationalism, who do utilize their cultural purpose to empower other communities. So this in no way, generalizes the entire Creole community.

Though, if only those other Creoles who, for some reason or another, are hindered by the continued effects of colonial mentality, can somehow reclaim their biological/physical identities, while still promoting the essence of their Creole culture to empower other communities, then the divine purpose of the Creole community, which I believe is solely attributed to the Creoles towards the development of Africa, will be attained.

Rather than scrutinizing the Creoles for characteristic and phsycological consequences stemming from their fortunate and unfortunate historical ties with the West, Slavery, Discrimination, Colonization, etc... lets focus on how do we utilize the advantage of a cosmopolitan nation, that has the power to spread the message of pan-africanism throughout communities in Africa, empowering them to become thriving communities, equal to any other across the world.


Subject: Re: Are Creoles an ethnic group, tribe, or cultural group?
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 04:15:44 02/10/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
ethnic group, cultural group, one soup


Subject: Re: Are Creoles an ethnic group, tribe, or cultural group?
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 16:11:58 02/09/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
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Message:
Away with this silly Krio problematic: Krios are not determined biologically, period. They are stone cold Africans who have forgotten their tribal roots. This much is known. Accordingly, it may be said that Krios are constituted within a halo of ignorance of their origins. That's biology 101.

On the cultural side, Krios lose, as FP would put it, "hands down." Any African with the will and resources can acquire European traditions with ease. Accordingly, this factor cannot determine who is a Krio and who is not a Krio.

An argument could be made that Africans carrying "European" names (I say "European" because the vast majority of these names are rooted in the pagan civilization of what Europe chooses to call "Classical Antiquity": Greece, Rome, Hellenized Christianity) are Krios. That argument is flawed: it is both over and under inclusive. Suppose I change my countryman name to Julius Caesar or Tony Blair or George Washington, would that me a Krio? Over my dead body. I appeal to all sober Krios to stop historicizing their contemporary weakness in Sierra Leone. Stop, before another Rwanda happens!


Subject: Re: Are Creoles an ethnic group, tribe, or cultural group?
From: Ronaldino
To: All
Date Posted: 15:57:51 02/09/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
It is mostly the old generation of Creoles that have this superiority complex. The young ones of today are not steeped in their parents complexes.
In 50 years time I doubt if the Creole community would be significant. The ones abroad would have inter married with foreigners and the ones at home would have intermarried with other tribes.


Subject: Re: Are Creoles an ethnic group, tribe, or cultural group?
From: KABU
To: All
Date Posted: 20:50:56 02/09/08 ()
Email Address: kabu@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 206.216.34.171

Message:
It has more to do with native inferiority complex than it is to do with creole superiority assumptions.

Creoles have always been accomodative, providing opportunities for all sierra leoneans to live life to the fullest. Freetown will forever continue to be known as the colony of the free and we are now making efforts to restore that heritage that will never be wiped away.

Marriage of italians to american indians never wiped away the american indian culture, neither would creole/native intermarriages.

What you should be fighting for is for our parliament to expunge the words "NATIVE" and "NON-NATIVE" from the laws of Sierra Leone. For as long as upliners continue to refer to creole as "non-Natives", non- creoles will continue to referred to as "Natives" with all the derogatory connotations that go with the term.


Subject: Attacks on Abdulai Conteh unfair
From: Snake
To: All
Date Posted: 15:09:16 02/09/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: h167-156-253.63.chubb.com at 167.156.63.253

Message:
The attacks on Abdulai Conteh are very unfair.


Subject: Re: Attacks on Abdulai Conteh unfair
From: madingo man
To: All
Date Posted: 04:43:46 02/10/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 78.151.102.43

Message:
We should stop this hatred against some of our finest citizens. During the Siaka Stevens era, some of our people went through hell and the same Sama Banyas; the Michael Abdulais; the Bu-buaki Jabbies; and the JB Daudas who we see today as our leaders in the SLLPP were all part and parcel of that regime that caused atrocities in that country so if we want to start castigating people lets us start from our own.

Some of these men were nominated for lucrative jobs in Sierra Leone but nobody sent a letter to the appointments committee to protest and why should we do that to man who is trying to make us the proud.

I think as a nation, we should learn to be proud of what we have, there are nations with more bad people than we but when it comes to national pride they will support whoever is representing them. we should stop this bring down syndrome and try to build our nation and get it out of the bottom of all these tables.


Subject: Re: Attacks on Abdulai Conteh unfair
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 08:14:42 02/10/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 88.202.254.4

Message:
Madingo man, I can understand our differences in responsible moral ethics. I would not trade my principles and ideals for the sake of an unpopular effect. If we continue to allow such people get away with corruption and abuse of power, they will continue such even when outside and the taint will be on the origin - Sierra leone.

We should be proud of our bad apples instead of trying to rehabilitate them. Condoning is not rehabilitation!!

No one wants to bring down anyone in this matter - the truth had to come out to save the rest of the continent from a morally bankrupt intellectual giant. I am sorry but I will not stand to see such people get away. The only time I will desist from such is when such people atone and make meaningful contributions to the development and advancement of the lives of the people, through their policies and abuse of power, allowed to suffer.


Subject: Re: Attacks on Abdulai Conteh unfair
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 16:15:27 02/09/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-114-169-98.hsd1.dc.comcast.net at 76.114.169.98

Message:
Please specify the concrete ways you determine them to be "unfair."


Subject: Re: Attacks on Abdulai Conteh unfair
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 15:41:12 02/09/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: client-86-0-80-223.leed.adsl.virgin.net at 86.0.80.223

Message:
Snake, please tell us how unfair the truth about his past dispensations are! My account can be found in articles written in West Africa, The International Confederation of free Trade Unions (ICFTU) Review, The ILO Archives and in published books. Snake please tell me what is so unfair about the comments some of us have made. His decisions of yesterday are haunting him today. He woefully failed in the principles and ideals that formed the cornerstone of his discipline - to protect and preserve laws. He abused that for selfish gains. what else can one do when you carried yourself as if there is no tomorrow. The child yesterday you destroyed his father is the man today challenging your moral responsibilities to hold an office that the entire continent africa depends on - that is my message to AO.

i am sorry snake, the truth about AO has to be told - blaming others for his past folly is unacceptable. He could have repaired such damage to his past by undergoing a therapy in the form of atoning by way of giving to society that which his human frailties did not permit when in service. A foundation to help disadvantaged Sierra leonean children would have repaired such dent on his person. It takes 20% of his salary to help hundreds of children across the country he helped destroyed their homes. Did he do that? No!! he kept running away thinking no one will find him. he stealthily got the job in Belize. I only came to know 6 months after his appointment and that was when my twin-brother had a row with him in Belize.

I do not find joy doing this but the truth has to be told to send messages to others that the world is not like before - it is fast moving - rum to any of us now, will be know all over the world in minutes. let him atone and consider supporting a movement to help in the development and advancement of the disadvantaged in our nation.

I am sorry snake;you have to advise your man about his failings and how there is still time for him to repair the damage. I know so many ills about him, his children and family but will not be happy to reveal all on this forum for anger's sakes. i will leave that to God. he is dealing him the blow he dealt to others. had he not persecuted my father, I may not have known the world as I do now. Not all can be like me!!


Subject: Re: Attacks on Abdulai Conteh unfair
From: Salone boy
To: All
Date Posted: 04:51:17 02/10/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 99-65-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl at 88.159.65.99

Message:
Chez, you are a sickening person. Your alliance with the SLPP has made you become a laughing stock.
You are still quiet over the senseless and barbaric killing of your Uncle, Musa Kabia.
Today, you want us to believe that your Father demise was as a result of AO Conteh.
Sierra Leoneans have a long way to go before they will sight progress and development.
When SLPP big guns murdered innocent civilians including Kula Samba , none of you sent a letter at the University in Bradford protesting Berewa's presence there.
As Sheriff said, it was South Easterners who rallied for the killing of Minah. I saw in my own eyes Pujehun residents at State House dancing and singing when they learnred that Francis Minah will be killed.
if ose nor sell yu, street nor go buy yu.
Momoh depended in dissent from the South East to nail Minah.
Why some of you are so nefarious ? You will go at great length to kill and tarnish the image of your brothers and sisters.
An unmerciful Chez, have you made peace with your twin brother? Why can't you embrace love and forgiveness for others?
Writing to different International organisations tarnishing the image of a true Sierra Leonean negates your God given rights to live in peace and love with others.
Chez, you have to apologise for engaging in such a wretched and vile act.


Subject: Re: Attacks on Abdulai Conteh unfair
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 08:46:44 02/10/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 88.202.254.4

Message:
Salone boy, I have no apologies to make. Whatever I said is in publications. I will take your insults as words coming from a man who is opposed to my statements - very natural. only enlightened people can look beyond the statements I made. With all due respects, I stand by my words - AO Conteh is not a competent contender for any position that involves the socio-economic welfare of a village of 30 houses. You do not know this people. As a child some of us battled with their selfish ideals. You want to help the man - tell him to atone and make meaningful contributions to that which gave him a footing in the intellectual world. take a trip to his hometown to see the selfish nature of your giant.

I fell out with my brother because I told him the truth - he did wrong and I was not on his side. Ask him and he will tell you if our dispute was a fault of mine. I will not support my child if s/he abuses his office. I am not perfect - I have done wrongs in my life and atone for them and made reparations - today i am still in the same community. My past is all but things to laugh about. That is humanity !!

Why did you think he was not allowed to enter the UK after the NRC takeover? salone Boy - please do not let us spill all the beans - I said what was troubling me and that is it. You want more from me - you will not get.

Did I mention the SLPP issue? Who was an ardent critic of pa kabba? During his reign, I had many conversations with him and most of them were centred on appeals for him to do his best to make Sierra leone a better country. I recall him asking me - what can i do for you my son? I told him that i would only want my country to be a stable and better country for the benefit of her citizens.

I take Sierra Leone to be my home and have no allegiance to no single entity but the whole. I am not a tribalist or some other prejudice against others. Every Sierra leonean is my brother or sister. Thank God, i was able to live in all the four corners of the country.

Indeed I am sick - sick and tired of us not progressing - you say the truth about the actions of a leader that negates his responsibilities and you will try to hunt him down. i have no fear save that of God.

i did not start this - it started when I saw an accusation from supporters of AO calling others bigots - who is the bigot here? selfishness and greed is bigotry to some extent - an AO has that. Please commission someone (I would not mind to make the full contribution)to go to his village and they will tell you what their eyes saw. No respect to anyone who does not respect and care for his people ( not just your immediate kin especially when you've been entrusted to serve the whole.


Concerning my uncle - that was the most sad thing that could happen to anyone. may his soul rests in perfect peace. The matter has been ongoing and we hope the people responsible will some day admit to those prejudicial killings.

I love my country and I believe you know that. i have always tried to make my people a better people able with confidence to compete anywhere. Mind you, i am also a believer of humanity? I work with different nationalities and they all respect Sierra leone.

Anger is a totally legitimate emotion, so when I felt it today, I accepted it. I have tried to control it, though. I have also tried no to fly off the handle or raise my voice – I have just said what it is that I am upset about and want to get a conversation going. I find no place for guilt in this situation – I have every right to react the way I want. No one has the right to tell me that I don't get to feel what I felt. I may have some facts wrong, and I am happy to be corrected soon.

Salone Boy no apologies!! So sorry!!


Subject: Re: Attacks on Abdulai Conteh unfair
From: WHY
To: All
Date Posted: 00:00:22 02/10/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-241-240-21.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 71.241.240.21

Message:
WHO IS/WAS YOUR FATHER.WHY WAS HE PROSECUTED BY AO.DON'T TAKE IT THE OTHER WAY.I JUST WANT TO KNOW.


Subject: Re: Attacks on Abdulai Conteh unfair
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 03:58:17 02/10/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: client-86-0-80-223.leed.adsl.virgin.net at 86.0.80.223

Message:
He was then the Secretary-General of the Siera leone Labour Congress. An organisation geared towards advocating the rights of workers in the country. His name was james Baimba Kabia. He was prosecuted for calling a national strike. Read the posting below and you will have a thorough grasp of the whole matter. I hope I was able to answer your question.


Subject: Only Good news
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 14:18:59 02/09/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-071271d5.01-32-73746f42.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se at 213.113.18.7

Message:

Conference on Academic Freedom in North Africa (English):
http://www.codesria.org/Links/new_08/academic_freedom08.pdf

Conference sur la libertŽ acadŽmique en Afrique du Nord (fran ais) :
http://www.codesria.org/French/nouveau08/academic_freedom_conf_rabat08_fr.pdf

Special Writing Workshop for Mano River Area (English) :
http://www.codesria.org/Links/new_08/special_writing_manoarea_river08.pdf

Textbook Programme (English):
http://www.codesria.org/Links/new_08/textbook_writing_prog08.pdf

Small Grants Programme (English):
http://www.codesria.org/Links/new_08/small_grants08.pdf

Programme de petites subventions (fran ais):
http://www.codesria.org/French/nouveau08/small_grant_prog08_fr.pdf

FOrmulaire de candidature au Programme de petites subventions
(français) :
http://www.codesria.org/French/nouveau08/attach_small_grant08_fr.pdf

English Scholarly Writing Workshop (English):
http://www.codesria.org/Links/new_08/scholary_wrting_workshop08.pdf

National Working Groups (English):
http://www.codesria.org/Links/new_08/national_working_groups08.pdf

Groupes nationaux de travail (français):
http://www.codesria.org/French/nouveau08/national_working_groupsfr_08.pdf

Guy Mhone Essay Competition on Development (English):
http://www.codesria.org/Links/new_08/guy_mhone_competition08.pdf

Concours d'essais Guy Mhone (français):
http://www.codesria.org/French/nouveau08/mhone_essay08_fr.pdf

Faculty Seminar Series (English):
http://www.codesria.org/Links/new_08/faculty_seminars_series08.pdf

SŽrie de sŽminaires facultaires (français):
http://www.codesria.org/French/nouveau08/faculty_sem08_fr.pdf

Conference of Deans (English):
http://www.codesria.org/Links/new_08/conference_deans08.pdf

ConfŽrence des doyens de facultŽs (français):
http://www.codesria.org/French/nouveau08/conf_deans08_fr.pdf

Comparative Research Networks (English):
http://www.codesria.org/Links/new_08/comparative_research_networks08.pdf

RŽseaux de recherche comparative (Français):
http://www.codesria.org/French/nouveau08/comparative_research_fr08.pdf

CODESRIA Alumni Conference (English):
http://www.codesria.org/Links/new_08/alumni_conf08.pdf

ConfŽrence des anciens laurŽats des instituts (français):
http://www.codesria.org/French/nouveau08/alumni_conf08_fr.pdf

Advanced Research Fellowships (English):
http://www.codesria.org/Links/new_08/advanced_research_fellowshp08.pdf

Programme de bourses de recherche approfondie (français) :
http://www.codesria.org/French/nouveau08/advanced_reseach08_fr.pdf

Marie Ndiaye

CODESRIA
P.O. Box 3304, CP 18524
Dakar, Senegal
Tel: + 221 338256598
Fax:+ 221 33 8241289
Email: marie.ndiaye@codesria.sn
Website: www.codesria.org



Subject: A DUGGESTION ON THE YENGA AND OTHER TERRITORIAL LAND MATTERS
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 14:12:42 02/09/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: client-86-0-80-223.leed.adsl.virgin.net at 86.0.80.223

Message:
I believe, if we the citizens of Sierra Leone can formally but with seriousness express our concerns on the Yenga and other territorial matters, the government would listen. take the case of my good brother, Minister of Defence, Rt. Hon. Palor Conteh. many opposed his military dress code and the president was able to talk to him. the president listened to the many voices. The same should happen with the yenga matter. not to abuse our rights to show concern but to seriously express that we are concern about the neglect on the issue. To date no case has been filed at the internartional court of justice (ICJ).

Another suggestion is for a formidable group of sierra leoneans to lobby the west and find out from the ICJ the procedure citizens should follwo if their government fails to listen to them (very tricky but qworth finding out). i am never afraid to ask a stupid question, it makes me know what i should do.

The link below will take you to a frontier dispute between Benin/Niger:


Subject: Re: A DUGGESTION ON THE YENGA AND OTHER TERRITORIAL LAND MATTERS
From: YONGAWO
To: All
Date Posted: 19:41:19 02/09/08 ()
Email Address: yongawomohamed@hotmail.com
Entered From: host86-132-21-62.range86-132.btcentralplus.com at 86.132.21.62

Message:
It's no exaggeration that the AU's record on Border Dispute Resolution is poor to say the least. Nevertheless, before running to the ICJ it would be
prudent for the Government in Freetown to officially register the Yenga Matter with the AU. Probably, this has been done. Also, has the Government tried ECOWAS? The Government of the day has no excuse not to give this Yenga issue the seriousness it deserves.
Significantly, the Foreing Ministry should, if not already done give a press statement on YENGA. Sierra Leoneans and the world need to know what measures the Government intend taking on YENGA.
Allah Bless Salone. Amen


Subject: Re: A DUGGESTION ON THE YENGA AND OTHER TERRITORIAL LAND MATTERS
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 14:58:31 02/09/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-4577b27b.dyn.optonline.net at 69.119.178.123

Message:
Alieu Iscandri had a brilliant proposal to take Guinea to the ICJ and settle this once and for all. Zainab should be making moves in that direction. Nigeria and Cameroon had some static over the Bakassa region. Everyone was cocking their guns and the testosterone was going crazy and then someone went to the ICJ and things cooled off. Cameroon was awarded Bakassa and no gun was shot in anger. Let's take Yenga to the Hague.


Subject: Re: A DUGGESTION ON THE YENGA AND OTHER TERRITORIAL LAND MATTERS
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 15:20:37 02/09/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: client-86-0-80-223.leed.adsl.virgin.net at 86.0.80.223

Message:
so it should be!


Subject: Re: A DUGGESTION ON THE YENGA AND OTHER TERRITORIAL LAND MATTERS
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 14:24:10 02/09/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-114-169-98.hsd1.dc.comcast.net at 76.114.169.98

Message:
Common brother. It is child's play to get Yenga back: smuggle Sabano to the other side of Yenga, resurrect Demba, and let the music roll: the enemy, yes, THE ENEMY, will shuffle to the other side of Yenga, for the enemy loves Demba and Bembeya infinitely more than their chinese A-K 47s.


Subject: THE TYPICAL FEN PLABA
From: Kawusu
To: All
Date Posted: 13:21:02 02/09/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-4575eca0.dyn.optonline.net at 69.117.236.160

Message:
"Those of us who support President Koroma do so while still casting a wary eye at APC's legacy. My support of President Koroma, for example, is solely based on the belief that he would straighten out Salone's economic problems and not because of love of APC. If a skunk emerges tomorrow as the party's flagbearer, see Fen Plaba run away!" Fen Plaba

Like Charles Margai, like Fen Plaba --APC-PMDC-APC.

And now Fen Plaba wants to fly to Sweden to check out some Swedish girls on information from Umpire??? Fen Plaba nar man ehn half.


Subject: Re: THE TYPICAL FEN PLABA
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 14:21:33 02/09/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-4577b27b.dyn.optonline.net at 69.119.178.123

Message:
Kawusu lef for hambug. If U dae nar New York, cam leh we go pap nar Greenwich Village tonight.
I mean it though about the political parties in our country. Knaves have indeed arisen from all political parties in Salone at various times and so it behoves us all to have a healthy skepticism of these Kabudus.
If a worthy patriot were to emerge in the next elections as a candidate, I would vote for him regardless of the green, orange or red bandana he sashays with on the catwalk. Of course the retrogrades in the parties would always be around, conspiring to sabotage progress. So far EBK is fighting the good fight despite the determined efforts of the APC's Cro Magnons.
As for Sweden's golden princesses, I'm hitting Scandinavia this summer. It is on my 150 to-do-list before I kick the bucket (I'm right now on #46).
By the way, I may get lucky and run into Umpire and Bai Bureh. We will party it up like an East End Wutpah.


Subject: Re: THE TYPICAL FEN PLABA
From: THE TRUTH
To: All
Date Posted: 13:47:24 02/09/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-70-17-228-81.balt.east.verizon.net at 70.17.228.81

Message:
Rumors are that Fen Plaba is blood related to former president Bill Clinton; very smart, down-to-earth, articulate, great heart, BUT for the sake of THEN BABY THEM e kin do anytin.....................


Subject: Re: THE TYPICAL FEN PLABA
From: Kawusu
To: All
Date Posted: 13:54:01 02/09/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-4575eca0.dyn.optonline.net at 69.117.236.160

Message:
The Truth,

Me man nar true U talk so- oh. I have heard about Fen Plaba's kinship with Bill Clinton for a long time now but since di man nar mi good fren, ar nor bi wan pull ihm wase nar doe. Rev. Kabs-Kanu for pray for Fen Plaba pan dis ooman bisness ya.


Subject: Re: THE TYPICAL FEN PLABA
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 14:01:28 02/09/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: client-86-0-80-223.leed.adsl.virgin.net at 86.0.80.223

Message:
Mi man na three ting wae certain na dis life - den born we, we go live en we go die. Woman business na part of the living process - if e dae function leh de man do am. Just be careful who you doit with. The most pretty and articulate - bingo!! Any bachelor get problem, especially if you get charm lek fen plaba. Just go easy mi coz - de gal dem dangerous now - every tem wae you cam you dae reduce you living - life span. Try adopt one technique wae nor go mek you cam. dat kin mek you life long - dis water na de west dae mek the woman dem more active and dem go wan suck you dry.take tem oh!!


Subject: Re: THE TYPICAL FEN PLABA
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 14:39:37 02/09/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-4577b27b.dyn.optonline.net at 69.119.178.123

Message:
"Try adopt one technique wae nor go mek you cam"...Chez

Chez, you gotta share this with the forum! Not for longevity, but to make a happier bed. I am one of those 'one minute' men Missy Eliott grumbled about.
Coz, please publish that technique. We want peals of laughter to emerge frome the bedroom!


Subject: Re: THE TYPICAL FEN PLABA
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 15:18:46 02/09/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: client-86-0-80-223.leed.adsl.virgin.net at 86.0.80.223

Message:
Coz, it is in the mind. I cannot trace the book. It is an ancient chinese practical guide to male harmony. You simply try to withdraw from throbbing whenever the tempo is sensed/felt. Then you go in again but this time visit the corners slowly and try to gently throb - you do three gentle throbs to the left, then three gentle throbs to the right and one heavy throb in the middle. Continue this way and whenever you feel the tempo again withdraw. There are other angles or positions to prevent premature ejaculations - let us leave this for now - the wrong message may be felt.

Will send you the title of the guide when I find it. Another helper is: Sexual Healing Through Ying and Yang by Ziahong Shen.

There are also other natural herbs, especially from The Dominican Republic that has helped a lot of men protect their relationships. The female can dessert you if you cannot understand her needs. I will also give you a tip on these other helpers from Dominica soon.


Subject: Re: THE TYPICAL FEN PLABA
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 17:07:12 02/09/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-114-169-98.hsd1.dc.comcast.net at 76.114.169.98

Message:
FP and Chez, let's move on. Chez: Remember AO has access to the net; and, FP, you know that the level of generality of the discourse is rapidly approaching KABS' hammer, and forget not that tomorrow is Sunday. I hear you've purchased a ticket? Vrai, n'est pas?


Subject: Re: THE TYPICAL FEN PLABA
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 17:20:17 02/09/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: client-86-0-80-223.leed.adsl.virgin.net at 86.0.80.223

Message:
Oui Monsieur Le Conte!! A wise advise. Nothing too explicit just a touch on male harmony.


Subject: Re: THE TYPICAL FEN PLABA
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 14:15:42 02/09/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-114-169-98.hsd1.dc.comcast.net at 76.114.169.98

Message:
Here is evident envy: if FP is "brilliant, etc.", why hit him on his private amorous adventures? Again, envy? See my Sermon on the Mount, posted earlier. Bra Chez, I can't believe you are scarred of these women who drink "dis water na de west." Would that I were not trapped between the horns of my Swedish Viking.


Subject: Re: THE TYPICAL FEN PLABA
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 14:27:42 02/09/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: client-86-0-80-223.leed.adsl.virgin.net at 86.0.80.223

Message:
I would not challenge any of them! trust me, they will shorten your days, if you attempt to challenge them. This, in a research by Robert Stewart, in his book "Philosophical Perspectives on Sex and Love", confirmed that for every time a male ejaculates, he decreases his longevity. So it is recommended that the male on average should ejaculate once a week. I try to do it once every two weeks. you can have it every day but try hard not to ejaculate. To restrain from ejaculation is an art that can be mastered by anyone over time and practice. i have a practical guide on this and will look for it and share it with you all. It will help us stay healthy and strong for ejaculation is the killer in sexual intercourse.


Subject: Re: THE TYPICAL FEN PLABA
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 15:40:40 02/09/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-114-169-98.hsd1.dc.comcast.net at 76.114.169.98

Message:
Under Stewart's theory, some of our fathers who had fourteen wives, should have had lives shorter than a roach's. Secondly, no ejaculation, no life, period. "Ejaculation is the killer of sexual intercourse...." That's a new one! I wonder, assuming Stewart practices what he professes, how many advils he pops a day from the pain in you know what issuing from inhibiting the flow. Holy cow: the title of the text is "Philosophical Perspectives on Sex and Love." Here we have him: Women and truth? Never the twain shall coexist. I agree with Nietzche: the love of falsehood by most, if not all, women makes philosophers fall in a hole in broad daylight. Behold the makeup, false eyelashes, the gladiator bras (to 'recover' the glorious firmness of the virgin's breasts), false hymens (according to FP), false hair, false skin color ('factory girls' or 'bleachers') and, to get to bottom of the matter, false bottoms. Indeed, the "love of wisdom" probably has nothing practically meaningful to say about the great lovers of the false: women, most women, excepting,of course, all the mothers of patriots. Proof: how many women patriots post in this forum? This depository of TRUTH.


Subject: Re: THE TYPICAL FEN PLABA
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 15:46:21 02/09/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: client-86-0-80-223.leed.adsl.virgin.net at 86.0.80.223

Message:
What he suggested was to do at least one a week. I try to do it once every two weeks. It keeps the woman intact and you very strong in body and mind. He did not say one should not. The everyday ejaculation is the problem. You can have it five times a day but just restrain from coming five times a day. Try it and you will see. Your Swede will tell you a secret about your new art!!


Subject: Re: THE TYPICAL FEN PLABA
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 17:53:35 02/09/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
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Actually, I'm a virgin. I'll consult you, with FP's mediation, when I make the decision to be deflowered. Contrary to a popular misconception, my Viking is a Royal Virgin. Thus, the regime in my homestead is petting. So much pain; desire, be damned!


Subject: Re: THE TYPICAL FEN PLABA
From: Umpire
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Date Posted: 14:15:36 02/09/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
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Here is evident envy: if FP is "brilliant, etc.", why hit him on his private amorous adventures? Again, envy? See my Sermon on the Mount, posted earlier. Bra Chez, I can't believe you are scarred of these women who drink "dis water na de west." Would that I were not trapped between the horns of my Swedish Viking.


Subject: Re: THE TYPICAL FEN PLABA
From: Umpire
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Date Posted: 14:15:35 02/09/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
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Here is evident envy: if FP is "brilliant, etc.", why hit him on his private amorous adventures? Again, envy? See my Sermon on the Mount, posted earlier. Bra Chez, I can't believe you are scarred of these women who drink "dis water na de west." Would that I were not trapped between the horns of my Swedish Viking.


Subject: Thanks cocorioko for the clarification
From: Amadu
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Date Posted: 12:53:27 02/09/08 ()
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I was the first one to raise the issue because I was eager to read more about the superstar. I was just calling the attention of cocorioko to find out the facts about the story. It was not in any way shape or form to bash cocorioko but rather to find out the facts. I read cocorioko at least three times a day. No need for the name calling but rather to find out the facts and supply us your readers with the best information. Don't take it personal.


Subject: ZAINAB BANGURA, ABDULAI CONTEH AND OUR LACK OF DIRECTION
From: BRA ENVIABLE
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Date Posted: 11:20:57 02/09/08 ()
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The campaign to whiten a sullied man like Abdulai Conteh has taken off in earnest, but the campaigners are so bereft of reality that the entire exercise looks like a fool's errand. Repackaging an old offender for sale is a difficult feat to perform, and the job could get even thornier when there is lack of skill in those doing the bidding. If the Foreign Ministry in Freetown cannot sell the candidacy of the "most qualified man for the job" at the African Union, Guinea-Conakry may have to seize more Sierra Leonean territory without provoking the opprobrium of the international community. The Northernized Foreign Ministry in Freetown is run by a woman known more for her "Northern Attractiveness" to the president than the possession of diplomatic cachet. Sidi Ibrahim Sherrif's argument that Sierra Leone's failure to see Dr. Conteh through at the AU was partly due to the absence of our Foreign Minister who had "other engagements in the UK," is a piece of rubbish that could undermine Zainab Bangura's diplomatic image with fierce crudity.
As the nerve-center of our international charm offensive, the Foreign Ministry should be primed to multi-task with the ability to direct counterblasts at Sierra Leone's opponents while wriggling our way through diplomatic logjams. With her limited diplomatic skills, can Zainab Bangura do well in a scenario involving a propaganda war with an external aggressor whose Foreign Ministry is well-oiled by wily diplomats?

I am beginning to see why the Guinean occupation of Yenga remains a lifeless topic. Neither State House, nor the Foreign Ministry, has the needed tact to coordinate a bilious campaign against the Guinean occupiers. The Foreign Ministry of a beggar-nation is too important to be left in the hands of bungling officials whose qualifications lay in tribal "suitability." More disturbing about the APC government is the fixation with recidivists like Abdulai Conteh. Dr. Conteh has seen, and wasted, better days as a diplomat. In a world where Sierra Leone faces newer challenges, Dr. Conteh cannot be expected to do anything beyond the flaunting of his academic credentials. The man lacks nationalism, integrity and diplomatic artfulness. The biggest DIPLOMATIC misdirection in recent Sierra Leonean history was taken under the aegis of Dr. Conteh's barren days at the Foreign Ministry. Propping this man up for an international job should NEVER be done in my Sierra Leonean name! At the moment, I am more concerned with Zainab Bangura's unsuitability at the Foreign Ministry, than the unfailing ambitions of a failed diplomat like Dr. Abdulai Conteh.


Subject: Re: ZAINAB BANGURA, ABDULAI CONTEH AND OUR LACK OF DIRECTION
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 06:09:18 02/10/08 ()
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Bra Enviable, you are starting to sound like an intelligent bad of "HOT AIR". Your writings are so devoid of facts, and they are starting to sound more like innuendoes rather that the writings of a well educated brother from Kailahun, which you are. Here are some examples of it.

"The biggest DIPLOMATIC misdirection in recent Sierra Leonean history was taken under the aegis of Dr. Conteh's barren days at the Foreign Ministry."

Without providing any facts on this, the statement above quoted is "Baseless". You are begining to sound like an Abdulai Conteh hater, which is not what I believe that you want to come out sounding like in the first place. I do not think that you are old enough to know Abdulai conteh as a prosecutor in sierra leone. I would therefore surmise that everything that you have heard about Abdulai Conteh is hearsay. You were around when the AFRC were prosecuted by Mr. Berewah the former leader of the party you support. People were condemned to death, monies were exchanged with the then vice President to wit: $5000.00 per head to avoid prosecution and or the death penalty. The accused were denied the right to appeal their sentences, even the civilians were in the same predicament and the prosecutor Mr. Berewah, was a seating member on the so called committee on the prerogative of mercy which was in itself a conflict of interest. I have so far heard you say NOTHING about that travesty of Justice which occurred while you have been an adult and a prolific writer on this forum. Why then may I ask you, have you been silent to this injustice meted out to innocent men and women, civilians and military, by the party that you support.

AO conteh in my humble opinion is a man of substance and we do our country an injustice when we negate his input and cry him down in public. For this reason I have refused to respond to Chez Winnakabs article on the issue because I believe that his article reflects how low he has sunk in his so called patriotism. Dr. Abdulai Osman Conteh is an honorable man and nothing you or anyone says would make me believe any diferent. He has represented sierra leone very well and as the Chief Justice of the state of Belieze he does every sierra leonean proud and that includes you. I have read his opinions while on the bench in Belieze and I am indeed proud of his achievements and so should you.

Dr. Conteh was a prosecutor of FM Minah. Assuming in arguendo that FM MInah was innocent, as many of you claim, that should not make the prosecutor the enemy because he was only doing his duties as an employee of the state. Abdulai Conteh did not seat at the commitee of mercy, make any decisions post conviction to the best of my knowledge. Why then does he generate so much hatered and particularly amongst south easterners liek you who are wont to turn a blind eye when these very same acts he is accused of are committed by people from the south east, by people like Hinga Norman who turned a blind eye to the rape slaughter of innocnet sierra leoneans whose onle crime was that they belonged to the APC party.

Get of the high horse brother and start acting sierra leonean


Subject: Re: ZAINAB BANGURA, ABDULAI CONTEH AND OUR LACK OF DIRECTION
From: Umpire
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Date Posted: 12:16:16 02/09/08 ()
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As a patriot, you are free to pass on the suitability of any cabinet minister for any post. So does the raray man at Big Wharf or Saw Pit or, the locus where my street smarts and horse sense were polished, Mabayla. You are a smart guy, and accordingly, I need not remind you that tribally grounded invectives do not an argument constitute. Where is the argument, factually based, it goes without saying, that the Honorable minister's diplomatic skills are "limited." Inquiring minds want to know. Unfortunately, you have not made the case. Give it another shot!


Subject: Re: ZAINAB BANGURA, ABDULAI CONTEH AND OUR LACK OF DIRECTION
From: Mahatma
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Date Posted: 13:08:42 02/09/08 ()
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I am impressed with your civility. May the good Lord continue to bring out the best in you. No offence. just want to be your friend. Forget about the insults - nothing to be ashamed of. You are a giant that is beginning to see the direction to which you need to tread.


Subject: Re: ZAINAB BANGURA, ABDULAI CONTEH AND OUR LACK OF DIRECTION
From: Rubbish Rubbish
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Date Posted: 11:54:14 02/09/08 ()
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Your party was in power for eleven God damn years and they did nothing about yenga. In fact it became a government policy that no one should say anything about it because tejan Kabba who is a Guinean will talk to his brother. APC has been in power for just five months and you want them to perform a miracle that your government failed to do in eleven years. You must be living in a dream world or since you have nothing worthwhile to do, whiling away time by writing your normal rubbish. I even wonder where you took that moniker as their is nothing enviable about you or your rantings on this forum.


Subject: Re: ZAINAB BANGURA, ABDULAI CONTEH AND OUR LACK OF DIRECTION
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
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Date Posted: 12:26:27 02/09/08 ()
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Yes the past created the present condition!! However, it is important for the present to be able to demonstrate a sign of hope for a better negotiation for what the past was not able to do. There are priorities and grand designs in every governemtn's foreign policy and startegic plan. Just as our president was able to challenge the electricity situation and took it upon himself to try to address it. I believe the same should not be bad for the foreign office. The seizure of Yenga by Guinea is a very serious international breach and the Foreign ministry should make it their priority. Forget about what kabba could not do. History will serve him his cold dish in due time.

What is our current design on Yenga and the recent appropriation of more villages (if true)?

We as citizens should not only depend on the government to deliver for us all of the time. We should take it upon ourselves to ask the Guinean people why they are taking our lands through their national media. I intend to start such a process when time permits - soon I believe as it is a far more desperate issue than most at hand. Bra Enviable is indeed enviable!!


Subject: Re: ZAINAB BANGURA, ABDULAI CONTEH AND OUR LACK OF DIRECTION
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
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Date Posted: 11:42:56 02/09/08 ()
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Better said than all!! One thing we should know which you pointed out, lacking nationalism. the likes of AO Conteh would like to be affiliated to Guinea more than Sierra Leone. the good thing about Guinea is that they do not tolerate people who have denigrated Sierra Leone to be given a platform. If wishes were horses, AO would prefer to enjoy his life in Guinea. Guinea does not tolerate the recklessness we bequeath to morally bankrupt individuals like AO Conteh.

The Yenga issue will be resolved. I have this belief that the likes of you and me will some day be able to lobby the international community to lend ears to the cries of patriotic Sierra Leoneans. Let hope be preserved in us. Time will tell!!


Subject: Re: ZAINAB BANGURA, ABDULAI CONTEH AND OUR LACK OF DIRECTION
From: nico
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Date Posted: 12:27:24 02/09/08 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
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I have been a passionate advocate of Yenga. I did not only wrote an open letter to Tejan Kabba on this serious threat to our sovereignity, but the non -action and mendacious position of Tejan Kabba forced my resignation as one of the reasons from the party. I will, in due course, express my views in the most robust and uncompromising stand for the new administration to scaled up the Guinean provocation with the relevant international areana.

Guinea is an unfriendly neighbour and a sucker. They will not leave until we convinced them that they cannot hold on to our land with impunity. As a nation, we need to know who is who and know who to entrust our most sensitive jobs.

Where is Suma? he exploited the SLPMB and invested the loots in Guinea. Even in death, he refused to be burried in Sierra Leone because he claimed to be a Susu Guinean.

Who was given the principal Immigration job in Sierra Leoen in the seventies, was it not Frank Jalloh. I know what he did to it. Frank Jalloh was the biggest peoples trafickers, bringing his Guineans in Sierra Leone to mine our diamonds and committed other acts of piracy in Sierra Leone.

I know this because our house was his transit post to the diamond zones in Kono and Tongo field. To me, what is hapenning to Yenga finds expression in our lack of foresight. There is a link. It is sensitive but I will be homing in on this at the right time.


We as Sierra Leoneans must begin to stand by our own people


Subject: Re: ZAINAB BANGURA, ABDULAI CONTEH AND OUR LACK OF DIRECTION
From: Sojaman
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Date Posted: 12:16:28 02/09/08 ()
Email Address: lavahun@yahoo.com
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The Yenga issue must be handled with care. Most people on this forum would prefer the government o take a more aggressive approach in dealing with the issue. One thing they fail to realise that in international politics especially when it comes to matters like these, any action taken must be backed by force or the potential use of force if dialogue fails. Are we prepared for that. Will our fragile economy be able to sustain a long drawn out war with Guinea. Is Yenga worth the loss of life of our citizens that will ensue? When I read some of the posts here, it take me back to 1977. those old krio women will be in their houses while the demostrations are on. They will ensure that their children are safely within the compound whilst encouraging us to go out and challenge the ISU.

This short dialogue actually took place during those days

Krio Woman: Abayomi, Tilay, Abioseh, unu pas cam insye en lock de gate. Unu nor see police dae pass up en dong with gun. Bring all tin insye en lock de gate.

Two minutes later

Krio Woman: (to a country boy walking along the street) Morlai, na watin dae happen dong trit?

Morlai: Na dem policeman dae run ata we ma

Krio Woman: Unu nor gree. Unu sef for stone dem. Dem police ya pasmark. Make ar gee u tik make un go fet for unu right

That is the typical attitude of some people on this forum. Just because they are hiding somewhere in euope, they want us to go out and fight because they will not be involved or affected by it. We have elected a government. Let us allow them to do their job rather than every Tom , Dick or harry having the idea that they can do a better job than the people who have been elected. Especially people like "Enviable" who thinks he is Mr Know all


Subject: Re: ZAINAB BANGURA, ABDULAI CONTEH AND OUR LACK OF DIRECTION
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 05:43:41 02/10/08 ()
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"old krio women will be in their houses while the demostrations are on"

What could have been a brilliant post on the issues has unfortunately been marred by tribalism. In 1977 I was one of those "krio" boys who led other students in marching up to Fourah Bay college with my little sign that said " Sierra Leone lad of Toy jets and helicopters". I was arrested and taken to the CID.

You take away from the flavor of your post when you inject anti krio or anti tribal commentary into it. In 1955 way before I was born and probably you too, my Grand Uncle Bankole faced a british soldier with a Bren Gun at Clock tower and lived to tell the story. Many krios have given up their lives and freedom to see siera leone move forward.

Now lets get to the meat and potatoes of your post. It is true that many on this forum who are advocating for war are on the wrong side of the debate because we as a naton are not militarily strong or economically viable enough to sustain any war against Guinea or within ourselves.

The solution to the Yenga issue is that the government of sierra leone must file a Legal action against the government of Guinea at the INTERNATIONAL COURT OF JUSTICE and seek reparations from the Guinean government for its illegal hold on our country. Preceeding that the government must make a very PUBLIC statement on the issue with the pesident issuing a very public statement on the state of negotiations with Guinea. A formal report must be made to the United nations with regards to the Yenga situation and at all stages of the process the President and the Foreign minister must report to the people of sierra leone on the ongoing efforts to resolve the situation. The biggest mistake that this government would make with regards to Yenga is to keep public that is increasingly seeking answers to this problem, in the dark.


Subject: Re: ZAINAB BANGURA, ABDULAI CONTEH AND OUR LACK OF DIRECTION
From: nico
To: All
Date Posted: 13:45:20 02/09/08 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
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Message:
Sojaman

Are you waiting for the Guineans to capture the whole of Sierra Leone including the seat of Salone Government before you do something?

The reason why Guinea is taken liberty on our sovereignty is because we as a nation and people have been too tolerant for our own good. We have been very shortsighted. We have failed to secure our borders, we have not bothered about the possible threat of this kind from our supposeably sister country and did not planned in our donkey years to counteract such a threat. Now our arguement is that we cannot do anything because we don't want war.

Guinea is aware of this and unless we begin to knock on the doors of UN, the international court of justice AU, UK etc to put pressure on Guinea to honour its last comminique to withdraw from our territory, Guinea will become bolder and more ambitious territorally.

War is not an option for now but I believe there are other ways. I will explain that to the media, in my article to be sent out later.


Subject: Re: ZAINAB BANGURA, ABDULAI CONTEH AND OUR LACK OF DIRECTION
From: Umpire
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Date Posted: 12:23:00 02/09/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
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Message:
I agree with you. It is the function of the elected government to secure the borders of Sierra Leone. However, how does that preclude citizens from offering their two cents? Argument, please!


Subject: Re: ZAINAB BANGURA, ABDULAI CONTEH AND OUR LACK OF DIRECTION
From: Mahatma
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Date Posted: 13:09:46 02/09/08 ()
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I am left with my mouth wide open! Indeed you have transcended!


Subject: Re: ZAINAB BANGURA, ABDULAI CONTEH AND OUR LACK OF DIRECTION
From: Umpire
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Date Posted: 15:46:30 02/09/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
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Message:
Your mouth is "wide open" for a short sleeve or a long sleeve? Answer the question!


Subject: Re: ZAINAB BANGURA, ABDULAI CONTEH AND OUR LACK OF DIRECTION
From: Mahatma
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Date Posted: 15:48:05 02/09/08 ()
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Wide open with admiration - it is no crime! is it?


Subject: Re: ZAINAB BANGURA, ABDULAI CONTEH AND OUR LACK OF DIRECTION
From: Umpire
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Date Posted: 17:22:27 02/09/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
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Message:
Consult an attorney; fear not that you are 'here' illegally, since attorneys cannot, assuming an attorney-client relationship attaches, report to Hawaii Five O, past criminal acts: generally. On the other hand, your illegal status is a continuing offense. Now, you are in real trouble. Consult Mr. Cockran, Esq.


Subject: I CHALLENGE AO CONTEH TO DIP HIS HANDS INTO HIS POCKET
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
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Date Posted: 11:17:49 02/09/08 ()
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In the interest of natural justice, I call upon Dr. Abdulai Osman Conteh to dip his hands into his poctets to support our new venture 'BOYS TOWN SIERRA LEONE'(BTSL). BTSL is geared towards building a school for the children of disadvantaged Sierra Leoneans and others from the neighbouring countries. The goal is to provide them with a quality education that would prepare them to build the nationstate with technological skills and traditional Sierra Leonean values.

These are some of the things one would have expected the dishonourable Chief justice to have thought of and not to vy for a position he knew very well was not within his grip.

Atone by become our first Benefactor. History will erase your deeds if such philanthropism becomes part of your accolades.

If you want to contact BTSL do so by writing to:
Boys Town Sierra Leone Project
PO Box 135
London
SE8 4PR
UNITED KINGDOM

We are mere mortals and can err. The only evil is not atoning when you have the opportunity. It is the best rehabilitation therapy for any individual - ATONEMENT.


Subject: Re: I CHALLENGE AO CONTEH TO DIP HIS HANDS INTO HIS POCKET
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 10:47:41 02/10/08 ()
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Message:
ROTFLMMFAO
Are you now reduced to "begging" for donations from Dr. Conteh whose reputation you have UNFAIRLY excoriated in the foreign press? If you were he would you entertain this offer? I dont think that Dr. Conteh would entertain your offer and I think that it stinks to the highest hell and smacks of some degree of criminality. This sounds so much like EXTORTION to me and I think you should be very careful when you make these very public statements like the one above.

Of course your idea is one that is laudable and one even I would not mind contributing towards, but to publicaly brag about bad mouthing one of Sierra Leonens finest legal minds and then only to turn around and ask him to contribute to some pet project of yours and by so doing it would erase his perceived deeds in your jaundiced eye is VERY VERY WRONG. If I were he, I would consider bringing a lawsuit against you winston, based on tort and take some of this fanmed money that you claim to have from you.

with regards to the incident of your brother going to Belmopan to "dis" the seating chief justice over some perceived injustice that you claim to have suffered, he is lucky that he came out of there alive because I have been to Belize, Belize city, Belmopan, and Dangregar and I submit to you that if he had been caught he would have been skinned alive and he would have deserved it if for nothing else his STUPIDITY.

Stay Blessed


Subject: For Chez
From: Jan
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Date Posted: 10:23:31 02/09/08 ()
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Chez, why don't you attend the all important meeting tomorrow at 3 pm at the usual place (Hankey Place tabard Tenants Association) off Long lane SE1? The last time I saw you was at the meeting we had on day the Albert Academy had a function.You attended that meeting late. This is a big meeting and the indications suggest that it will be the biggest turnout for a long time. Something very big and interesting is going to happen tomorrow. To hear about it is not the same as to witness it. Hope to see you there tomorrow. I consciously do not want to say much about it in this forum.


Subject: Re: For Chez
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
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Date Posted: 10:27:13 02/09/08 ()
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Thanks Jan. Will be there tomorrow. hope to be in London by midday and will have time to refresh myself. Will without doubt attend.


Subject: The Effects of Today's Leadership Actions or Inaction...
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
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Date Posted: 09:17:28 02/09/08 ()
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...On Lives and Society of Tomorrow - Part I

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The Effects of Today's Leadership Actions or Inaction On Lives and Society of Tomorrow - Part I

By Dr. Erango Kelbisow

"... for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap." Galatians 6:7 (Holy Bible)

Keen observations reveal that numerous factors play major role in shaping or destabilizing an organization or society's future. If one should insist on knowing what exactly affects lives and society the most, a careful selection of factors would include such topics as family, youth, leadership/government, and the entire nature. Assuming that family and the entire nature would remain intact, the narrowing down process would lead the inquirer to the youth and leadership/government for further discussion. Although the youth and future leaders, rarely by design and mostly by sheer accident or force, inherit what their predecessors leave behind, some might still argue that the future of a society/nation heavily depends on its youth. However, regardless of how many pertinent factors could be staked up on the list, specially, in most developing countries, the foremost of all factors, according to the opinion of this article's writer, would be today's political leadership/government actions or inaction that most affects lives and society of tomorrow.

Therefore, Part I of this article calls upon present and aspiring leaders to learn to or put personal idiosyncrasy aside and live up to the purpose and responsibilities of the office they occupy (or aspire to occupy) without any prejudice for or against whomever comes to receive service. Although the term leaders in this article could also mean parents, business or community leaders, religious leaders, chief executive officers or their designees in private organizations, educators, other professionals, bureaucrats in government agencies, but more specifically it refers to, political leadership in government. Indeed, only a democratic form of government that represents the people could set up a proper path to remedy all forms of injustices that the people would experience and live under.

The leaders in government could easily make or rake lives and the future of a nation/society through its popular or unpopular policies, regulations, internal memorandums, and international treaties. Either absence of a genuine democratic form of government in place or presence of democratic appearance only in words and on paper would certainly complicate the matter and diminishes the hopes and aspirations of many for a better tomorrow. It has been quite clear that the transfer of political power in most developing countries, including Ethiopia has rarely been carried out by design and peaceful means but rather mostly by sheer accident and guns. As a result, the people in those countries continue to suffer under difficult conditions and different leaderships that come in succession. Every such leadership tends to either lack knowledge, necessary skills, experience, or all of these to successfully lead the people. Therefore, in a plain language, it continues to terribly underestimate the potential and intelligence of the people it alludes to lead in most of its actions or inaction. In spite of its own shortcomings, claiming to "know-it-all", such leadership tends to be determined to blame its predecessors for every adverse conditions in society and remains more resolved to revenge (maim or destroy) anyone perceived to be in its way. It is obvious that such transitions would be very expensive, in terms of resources wasted and lives lost in vain and/or on the on-the-job-training that would be required to bring the new and inexperienced leadership up to par. The beginning of a new and crawling administration that would not know what to do or how to run a day-to-day government affairs would be another trying time for most citizens to repeatedly go through. Most decisions made during this time of transition would be arbitrary. However, such new leadership generally appears to be full of zeal, empty words, and self-aggrandizement.

Unfortunately, all rosy things which were promised to the people by the new leadership on its way up to the sought after office would not be delivered. To the dismay of the people, the delivery date of the promised items would continue to get unspecified extension. Therefore, after patiently waiting and watching for long time, the people who were promised the delivery of democratic form of government, respect for their rights, personal safety, better service and opportunities, and economic prosperity by their leaders in office tend to give up hope. The level of their trust in the leadership would hit rock bottom. The irony of all of this is that, the new leaders transform their own lot from rags to riches while the poor people's living conditions in those countries were found to be substandard. While living conditions of people from these countries were documented, compared, ranked, and reported internationally, those countries with inefficient and unstable governments would lead the list from the bottom. On the contrary, the leaders of these same countries were found to be among the wealthiest in the world. In spite of promises on top of promises, there was no evidence that the leaders' zeal alone would deliver a morsel of bread to the hungry, hope to those covered with despair, safety to those who are afraid of losing their lives, and prosperity to those who are poverty stricken. Unless leaders in the government rid themselves from all forms of iniquities, it appears that in such environments, among other things, respect for human rights, valuing the sanctity of life, peace, and prosperity would increasingly become never attainable dreams.

Of course, leaders at the helm of government make widely affecting policies and major decisions. It should be understood here that making policies and major decisions during highly charged emotions or with less or no regard for the target group would totally remove needed objectivity for making sound and practical policies. Any policy development and implementation that lack practicality would be like an exercise in futility. If policy were formulated without any regard to target group and haphazardly implemented, regardless the intent of the policymakers, the outcome of the policy would be nothing better than a total disaster. I hope it would suffice to cite an example or two from the failed actions or inaction of the previous government era in Ethiopia. Although historians could record this better than I, among others, one major action taken by the political leadership was that of the introduction of alien political ideology of Marxism to the culture and the circumstances of the Ethiopian people and its associated policy related to Villagezation (Mender Misreta). These government actions or inaction proved to be unacceptable to the ethos of the people. It failed. Certainly, the people would continue to feel the negative effects of the era for generations to come. Like a coin with two sides, also to give credit when and where it is due, one positive outcome that was registered for the Dergue era was that of the Literacy Campaign which reduced the nation's illiteracy by a substantial percentage.

The lesson here is that, policies made based on skewed perceptions and inadequate information, on one hand, and, implemented hastily and wrong, on the other, would have a skewed outcome that dashes people's hopes for better future. The outcome clearly indicates that the failed policy decisions could also backfire at the government itself. Therefore, leaders at the policy making level of government, at any time in history, would be advised to do more than the proverbial saying "think twice" before making any policy decisions in order to avoid more complicating life and the future for others. Thus, it is apparent that numerous leadership actions or inaction in history point to either people's joy or sufferings. Leadership decisions were not supposed to or should not be handled as personal decisions. Since they would affect many others, one as a leader should always be objective, gather genuine data related to the decision to be made, involve the target group, get unbiased expert advice, modify as needed, weigh alternatives, and make the decision that would result in people's joy rather than sufferings. Also, it would be very important to note here that proper implementation of those decisions would be of a delicate nature and people's leaders must be extremely tactful if they would not want to cause unnecessary suffering to the people.

If the leadership in office messes up things with an unpopular actions or inaction and fails to lay down proper foundations for a positive development of the organization or country to take effect, another leadership that would follow would end up with chaos in its hands. In the same vein, it needs to be recognized that leadership transition left to chance alone would leave the nation in a permanent political, social, and economic coma. However, in countries that would fall in such travesty, the cutting of the chord of the vicious cycle of misery to the masses calls for a selfless, totally committed, and a unique group of leaders to emerge and set a tone. The tone might include riding ineffectiveness from government. It appears that tyranny, ruthlessness, and corruption breed ineffectiveness or vise versa. These in turn result in lack of trust, absence of personal safety, instability in government, and continued misery with no relief in sight for the people.

Regardless of how occasional and bad the mistakes might be, mostly due to lack of clear explanation to the constituents, leadership blunders in decisions made and/or unpopular actions taken or inaction at times become so exaggerated. I do not think genuine leaders would mind being looked at as humans like anybody else who are subject to err. However, when they err, the people expect their leaders to humble themselves and admit that they made a mistake and assure them that it would not happen again. I also hope that, unless it would be considered a grave mistake, the people would forgive their leaders, although they may not forget the act, and like to move on with life and living. Another valid point here is that, it would be better if a leadership would avoid becoming wrapped up and insulated with its own vain glory and act as if nobody could tell anything or criticize what it does. A leadership with such an attitude and behavior towards its own people would only reign until its cup would run out. The people would be fed up of the leaders' arrogance and deceit. It would be only a matter of time that the leadership that has been living in folly would soon fall from grace and favor of the people it claims to lead. Such policy blunders, which continue to be made, may be just blunders to the individuals who made them and when they made them. But, these blunders could become an everlasting disaster for lives and the future of the society.

If the reader of this article is currently in a leadership role or would be in the future, he/she needs to remember that the decisions he/she makes or would make and the actions being taken or inaction would affect far too many lives than one would ever imagine. Therefore, as a leader, one should not fail to set an appropriate example of a leader to subordinates and our youth to learn from. If such acts were conducted today, they would contribute positively towards sustaining lives and society of tomorrow. Merely holding an office and not appropriately serving the people does not make a leader a leader. A leader must always remember that the office he/she occupies ethically could not and should not be used for revenge and personal vendetta. If he/she is a public servant or a government employee, he/she occupies the office to serve fairly all those who would come under the auspices of that office, not only a special interest group such as a given business, religious body, ethnic group or tribe. Thus, a leader should never misuse and abuse the power of the office for personal gain, but rather provide a fair and ethical service to the people he/she ought to serve.

In general, when the leadership is far removed from its followers, there would be a wide gap between leaders perceptions and constituents perceptions about services provided and services received, respectively. Although the gap that emanates between the leaders and the followers could be sometimes based on perceptions, but many times, it would be based on real discrepancy on the part of the leadership that could not live up to its responsibilities. In order to eliminate or minimize the perception or real difference, the parties must be willing to conduct genuine self-evaluation first and discuss openly and honestly with one another about those perceptions and realities that prevail. Thus, would be millions of dollars worth questions to help eliminate or minimize the gap could include, do the leaders in government and the people agree that there is a major problem in their relationship? Are they willing to solve the problem? If so, do they want to listen and/or talk to each other? If they have reached at an impasse, are lives and society of tomorrow going to be better or worse off as a result of this impasse? Could it be mediated? Who would mediate?

In part II of this article, in order to assist leaders to become effective public servants, sets of relevant and ethically appropriate questions that government leaders would raise and answer them would be introduced. This section also deals with what the role of good and visionary leaders should be like for the betterment of the society. The reader in this section would be briefly informed about what leaders' roles would be like in managing change that is overwhelming societies everywhere as related to our circumstances.

Note: Dr. Erango Kelbisow lives in Los Angeles and is an educator affiliated with the Los Angeles Unified School District. He holds three graduate degrees in Institutional Management, Public Administration, and Educational Administration from Pepperdine University. He also holds various professional licenses (credentials) from the State of California and belongs to numerous professional Associations. For any feedback, send e-mail to: ekelbisow@juno.com.



Subject: Re: The Effects of Today's Leadership Actions or Inaction...
From: Umpire
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Date Posted: 10:11:01 02/09/08 ()
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The doctor's reasoning, though not his aspirational ethos, is deeply flawed. I shall not comment on the contentless pronouncements on, for example, the need for good leadership. Of course, everyone wants good leadership. The question is how? The doctor's piece, prolix, to the core, instead of answering the question, sinks into the clouds of contentless abstractions.

Political Assumption or Prejudice: The doctor dogmatically posits that only a democratic form of government would deliver the goods? That may be true, false or undecidable. However, he fails to argue for his position, ironically surprising for a piece that urges "responsibility." I suspect that the author is Ethiopian, from which tribe, I know not. Some arguments against Ethiopia's monarchical form of governmet, please, in Part 11, "we naw go tire."


Subject: Re: The Effects of Today's Leadership Actions or Inaction...
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Date Posted: 13:10:56 02/09/08 ()
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Wonders never cease! You amaze me! keep it up!


Subject: Re: The Effects of Today's Leadership Actions or Inaction...
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
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Date Posted: 10:21:07 02/09/08 ()
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Nothing in life is without flaw. My grasp of the reasoning is simple - that our actions or inaction of today determines the destinies of many. This is akin to our Sierra Leone situation of yester years by our leaders that brought untold sufferings to 80% of our population. if we make the right decisions today the tomorrow will be better and if we make the wrong decisions the tomorrow will not be pleasant.

Below is Part II:

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The Effects of Today's Leadership Actions or Inaction on Lives and Society of Tomorrow - Part II

By Dr. Erango Kelbisow

"... for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap." Galatians 6:7 (Holy Bible)

In this part also, like the previous part of the article, the readers, specially, our present as well as aspiring leaders, would be invited to objectively ponder over the essence of the content of this article. The reader would be asked to take the message in here to heart and try the very best to make life easier and meaningful for oneself and everybody. Your consent would be sought here to be sensitive to the needs, feelings, aspirations, and dreams of all people whom you as leaders commit yourselves to serve. Although the people's wishes might appear fuzzy to some leaders, without any ambiguity, the people would want to live in peace, their rights to be respected, be safe and free. The people also would want to run their own affairs. This would mean that they would rather elect in free and fair elections the leaders of their choice rather than have leaders imposed on them by sheer accident of time or the powers to be. It is hoped that leaders would recognize that, only the fulfillment of the people's wishes to exercise their rights would ensure promising future and guarantee continued development for better society of tomorrow. Therefore, as leaders, your genuine commitment to serve sacrificially, honestly, and fairly and, in fact, to carry on that commitment even farther into concrete actions would be of utmost importance to the welfare and future of our people.

It is very essential that our leaders would know exactly what would be expected of them while in office - that is to effectively, ethically, morally, and judiciously discharge official responsibilities during their tenure in the office and prepare to peacefully transfer power in due time, but nothing less. Remember that, our people deserve the best of leaders who would do all they can and want to see the country make a positive progress and even advance in every aspect it stands to improve. The desirable leaders would lift up the nation from the state it has been fallen for quite sometime now. To do that, first, such leaders would be expected to possess necessary skills to objectively assess the time period we are living. Then, they would reflect experiences from yesteryears, anticipate and prepare for the future, bridge the gap that prevails between them and their followers, seek and get honest feedback from the people, and provide quality service to all people who stand to receive services from their leaders. To rise up to this Herculean task, while still adhering to the job descr1ptions, among other things, each leader would be encouraged to raise personal questions similar to the ones posed below and seek appropriate and ethically pertinent answers to those questions. The questions would include:

1. What qualities of a leader do I possess in these times of change?

2. What is the purpose or function of
the office I am holding or aspiring
to?

3. For how long am I going to hold
the office?

4. What do others think of the quality of service they receive from this office?

5. Do I treat others the way I want to be treated?

6. What types of examples of a leader am I setting for others to learn from me?

7. How do I want to be remembered by the people, the organization, or country I serve?

In the interest of the Ethiopian people and the society's future, it is essential that leaders would, first, meet and even surpass the standards that would be required for the office they occupy. Then, they should be constantly made by genuine rule of law and professional ethics to be mindful of the purposes of their institution's existence and of their holding the office in order to be effective in what they are supposed to do. Thus, the goal of this article would not be achieved until most or all leaders internalize daily the primary reason of their occupying the office and serve everyone that comes under the auspices of that office in a professional manner. This internalization could not be substituted by giving a correct answer to questions posed above and other similar questions but by only actual demonstration of an appropriate act. The act could be deduced as an appropriate only when the leaders serve others in a manner that they themselves would like to be served when it is their turn to be on the other side of the desk or in a line to get service from others. If such a quality of service would be rendered to the public, without doubt, it would be declared that the state of professional maturity in leadership has been achieved. Only then, where all our leaders at every level, specifically those in government, would be considered 'good leaders'.

I believe that good leaders are those who are empathetic towards the people whom they serve. Good leaders would not take ethnocentric positions but rather acknowledge, value, and respect diversity that characterizes the society where they live and serve. Their focus would be on common grounds and interests of all citizens. If and when they genuinely accept and value diversity, they would rarely exploit diversity for their own political interest or personal gain. They would neither use diversity to distance people from one another nor would they tolerate others when they put down one group and lift up another in society. Good leaders would have a positive prospective about the society as a whole and be inclusive rather than exclusive of the diversity in the government and in its ranks of leadership. Its aim would be making an extra effort to work together with others in a democratic forum and agree to disagree in order to make a positive difference in the lives of all people in the society. Good leaders would be interested in building a consensus before making major decisions where differences in opinion would be ironed out first and/or some level of agreement would be reached. They transcend themselves from tribal, religious, and any other form of bondage that might cloud their fair judgement towards others who might differ from them in any way. They would always listen carefully to the heartbeat of their followers and that of their compatriots. Without question, desirable leaders put the interest of others and that of the country above their own.

Good leaders are also great history students who would continue to learn from the past, mistakes of others and that of self. They would have a good grasp of the present and wholeheartedly prepare for the inevitable tomorrow as well. Good leaders realize the importance of securing a stamp of approval from their followers about where and how they want to be led and on controversial and very important decisions. Unfortunately, if the leaders would not have their followers' consent on major policies and decisions and would still want to go ahead with the decision; they would be left to "dance alone." Good leaders help solve problems encountered by their followers rather than create more problems and, even, complex ones for the followers to solve. Able leaders would do their level best to avoid making the type of mistakes for which history will remember them and the people will not forgive or forget. Good leaders would be ethically restrained from using the cover of their office and temporary power to abuse, misuse, and possibly destroy the image and future of others.

Good leaders would have good human skills, solid knowledge base, pertinent leadership skills, courage, and necessary wisdom to develop, modify, or rescind policies or decisions that were made and would be considered hostile to the very people who stand to be served by those instruments. Good leaders would usually have a good grasp of the direction where they want to take as they safely and harmoniously lead their followers to a known destination. The desirable destination for the people would be politically stable and economically viable state from where many citizens would not want to run away as many have done or continue to do so for over a quarter of a century now from Ethiopia. Good leaders understand that, human aspirations for better tomorrow could not be suppressed under any circumstances but would surpass any imaginable physical, psychological, and geographic barriers that might be erected by the powers to be. Thus, good leaders would create an atmosphere where people would have a sense of security, where their rights would not be violated, they can have freedom to move from one place to another within and outside of the country in order to live, work, and establish residence anywhere they choose. Good leaders would not erect barriers against citizens for the sake of their own political expediency. Rather, they must be patient enough to educate the people until they understand what is on the table rather than be pushy, evasive, or coercive to have their way. Since perceptions would vary, even on matters of common concern, good leaders must invite and be willing to objectively listen to opposing viewpoints. Good leaders are sensible enough to understand their limitations. Although they could, they would not tear down everything that has been in place when they take office thinking that they would rebuild it to their taste or even better. Good leaders would have a good sense of judgement that the meager resources the country might have could not stretch enough to accommodate their wild expenditure on political, social, and economic experimentation that would call for a total destruction of existing infrastructure with a hope of building a new one. Such actions by any leadership would be a true call for another trouble.

Although change is inevitable, to be caught up with change unprepared would be a total disaster. Believe it or not, change is everywhere. In fact, an overwhelming change is upon us. Thus, all leaders in every office in the country would be encouraged to have a new way of thinking and behaving if we were to successfully usher in the type of change that would be friendly to us and enable us to meet our society's needs. This type of change would require a special call upon all our leaders to prepare the people and able leaders and transfer power peacefully. Unless such a practical assurance would be in place and soon for the inevitable, just to sound and appear patriotic would not be sufficient enough for all family's, the organization's, or society's future after you would be gone.

Leaders are supposed to be change agents. As such, they must anticipate the reality of the future and al3rt their followers to be on guard. Without question, a prepared society would change the change itself to its advantage. Indeed, we are living in an opportune time and also in a more demanding time in human history. True enough, we also live in an exciting time that has made the world closer than ever before with a mind boggling "technological miracles" like neighboring communities would be, next to each other, and yet a more challenging time where economic disparity between the poor and the rich rages on. This is indeed a very challenging time, more so, for a leadership in developing countries. Among many depressing things in most developing countries, there would be many more mouths to be feed daily than there would be needed resources available. The needs and challenges are so immense. Therefore, able leaders would be expected to have gone through the crucible of preparation to properly and successfully lead people in this age and time of dizzying change.

Indeed the youth, those who inherit only what is left behind, are only a mirror image of the society that produced and nurtured them and the leadership that had set a pattern for them to emulate. Therefore, they could neither be blamed for the responsibilities they had not been prepared to shoulder nor had they received political power peacefully from their predecessors on what they could build on or improve. However, historically, they would not go free from bearing a responsibility, whether it would be good or bad, for the period of time they would bear the torch of an organizational or national leadership. Therefore, it is quite clear that actions or inaction of any leadership while in office at any given time in history would have immense impact on the lives and society of tomorrow.

In summary, my appeal to the reader of this article would be that, as a leader (or an aspiring leader), you have the future of many in your hands. Please, be aware of your actions or inaction that would have drastic effects on lives and society of tomorrow. Others look up to you for their hope and direction in life. Do not betray their trust. Remember, have nothing else but a positive influence on others, specially, on the nation's children. Stop feeling or claiming that you are the only one with correct solution all the time to every problem. Be persistent and an optimist. Remember always to do your best with clear conscience. Life would go on even after you, maybe even better. Thus, make a positive contribution. Do not forget to invite, involve, and motivate others in the cause. Make certain that the cause you would be engaged in benefits others by alleviating the misery of the masses. If you and other leaders with all followers together would do the very best today, certainly, lives and society of tomorrow could be better off. Finally, as a concerned citizen, my appeal to the leaders is that, if you really care about lives and the society of tomorrow, please prepare other and better leaders to carry on the torch of hope, true democracy, and prosperity past the rhetorical line for the people who deserve it.

Note: Dr. Erango Kelbisow lives in Los Angeles and is an educator affiliated with the Los Angeles Unified School District. He holds three graduate degrees in Institutional Management, Public Administration, and Educational Administration from Pepperdine University. He also holds various professional licenses (credentials) from the State of California and belongs to numerous professional Associations. For any feedback, send e-mail to: ekelbisow@juno.com.



Subject: Re: The Effects of Today's Leadership Actions or Inaction...
From: Umpire
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Date Posted: 11:07:45 02/09/08 ()
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My brother, I am convinced your intentions are honorable. Supremely and unequivocally uncontroversial, and therefore, unproblematic is the proposition that our actions today determine, in a loose and unscientific sense, our situations in the morrow. "Loose," I say, because of contingencies such as "luck" and the incomprehensible will of God. AO, if I understand your anguish, proves my point.


Subject: Re: The Effects of Today's Leadership Actions or Inaction...
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
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Date Posted: 11:30:42 02/09/08 ()
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My brother, I was not able to understand the followin: "...AO, if I understand your anguish, proves my point".

AO came from a background in the heart of Kambia district. Our society then offered them the opportunity to be educated to serve the coming generations. he attended the best schools and then moved to the best universities in the UK. It was not luck! the society then rewarded the brilliant and encouraged the not so brilliant. When these brilliant minds came to serving the society that once offered them those favourable conditions they decided otherwise and brought untold sufferings to many and blotted their characters.

My brother, in the days of our fathers, a 29year old educated Sierra Leonean had all the luxuries of life to enable him work towards building a better future for the coming generations. Now, you will find a 50 year old educated Sierra leonean not able to serve his country because of the changes in the direction of the norms and values we had towards our future generation. Luck plays a part but not when you have a society that functions through meritocracy. Abdulai O. Conteh did not come from the affluence one would say the likes of the Yumkella's came from. But he met a societal norm that favours the brilliant and he was part of the brilliants. Why was he not able to understand his origins and that there are many like him.

Anger is a totally legitimate emotion, so when I felt it today, I accepted it. I have tried to control it, though. I have also tried no to fly off the handle or raise my voice – I have just said what it is that I am upset about and want to get a conversation going. I find no place for guilt in this situation – I have every right to react the way I want. No one has the right to tell me that I don't get to feel what I felt. I may have some facts wrong, and I am happy to be corrected.

My brother, my anger does not go beyond saying what I feel - nothing more.


Subject: Re: The Effects of Today's Leadership Actions or Inaction...
From: Umpire
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Date Posted: 11:59:22 02/09/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
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Mr dear brother in rational discourse and controlled emotional affect, maybe I failed to communicate perspicuously: assuming your allegations against AO are credible, my point about the consequences of bad acts,such as those you attribute to AO, not hanging like a monkey on the bad guy's back, is that "luck" or the unfathomable will of God sometimes, but only sometimes, prevents the LOGICAL consequences from eviscerating the bad guy. Oh!, before you fly to the UK, don't forget my proffer!

Moreover, the second point---how to do the right thing---is even more problematic. Generally tradition, the 'wisdom' passed down from one generation to another, serves as a guide. But again, because of the ever-changing necessities of the LIVING PRESENT either individually or socially, this ancient guide must be modified or, in a crisis, rejected as FALSE. The point? THE LIVING PRESENT IS, TO BE SURE, CONDITIONED BY THE PAST, WHICH IS EFFECTIVE IN IT, BUT NOT UNCONDITIONALLY. Two consequences follow: first, doing the right thing is, in most cases, excepting the most mundane cases (taking a shower in the morning, not abusing the mother of your kids, not stealing (but what if the result of abstaining from theft is my demise?), judiciousness of an action vel non is determined only and only by its consequences. Alas, and this is the second consequence, the interpretation of consequences is hardly analogous to 1 plus 1 equals 2. The human condition is a mess, sometimes manageable, though. Hang in there! By the way, when you get to the UK, inform Wilben Short that I have no interest in his wife, Claire Easmon-Short; Claire should be allowed to respond to my e-mails.


Subject: Re: The Effects of Today's Leadership Actions or Inaction...
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
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Date Posted: 13:04:16 02/09/08 ()
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My bro, the reasoning in the last appeal:

- "...Finally, as a concerned citizen, my appeal to the leaders is that, if you really care about lives and the society of tomorrow, please prepare other and better leaders to carry on the torch of hope, true democracy, and prosperity past the rhetorical line for the people who deserve it".

The above should be embraced by all of us. I will honestly say to you that I admire the west for protecting the future of their generations. My admiration for them has clouded the images of the wrongs we alleged they have done to us. I liken my admiration to what Cheik Anta Diop once said, "...Nous ne pouvons pas entièrement blâmer les Européens de leurs contrats ! Ils vivent en état dur et donc la loi de la nature dicte la survie du plus convenable...". Crudely translated: "We cannot entirely blame the Europeans for their deeds! They live in harsh conditions and therefore the law of nature dictates the survival of the fittest.

My bro, why are we lacking in the development and advancement of our nationstate? My answer is simple! The majority allow the few that govern dictate the way of life.

Will tell your rival to allow your friend to read her emails.


Subject: Re: The Effects of Today's Leadership Actions or Inaction...
From: Umpire
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Date Posted: 14:02:45 02/09/08 ()
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I see that your affect has improved. I feel your anger. Proof: your ironic riff about "my rival." FP, let my brother know how the Almighty has blessed me. It's the weekend, brother. We have been through two heavy rounds, and its only highnoon. Accordingly, let's deal with Diop when you return to the UK. Have a nice and safe trip. Uncle, don't forget ankala, ankala, ankala.


Subject: THE HERMENEUTICAL CONSCIOUSNESS OF SALONE'S LITERARY CULTS
From: Umpire
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Date Posted: 07:36:16 02/09/08 ()
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Let's face it, we are the best educated West Africans, if not Africans. Our souls are riddled with book knowledge; our emotions, with envy: regrettably. There is a tension here: love of book knowledge appears to be inconsistent with envy. I say "appears" because even Einstein got angry when some German Young Turks attempted to falsify his relativity theories. Be that as it may, we---the gutter---according to the 'development experts'---cannot afford the toxic drive of envy. Rather we should embrace the virtue of emulating the best or, if the best cannot be found, fabricate or make it up. Better that than wallowing in the destructive culture of envy.

Take the recent wahala in this forum about "northerners". Nothing but envy, despite the ruse of wrapping the venom in the seductive garb of historical erudition.

Ode: envy not, emulate; emulate cheerfulness, not angst; not number oneness should you desire, brotherhood and sisterhood, must you valorize; affirm not that since my neighbor is worse off, therefore, I am better off, even you and your neighbor are both in the gutter; negate, you must, the ethos of the animal in you, for the animal in you was transcended by the image of God in you, according to the Jewish Bible, the Christian Bible and the Qur'an.

Transition: Come now my people, come all ye who hold Salone dear: come to practical, not theoretical wisdom.

Conclusion: Theoretically, I have arrived at the solution to "our" problem: the artisan is devoid of envy, for he or she is always looking for a master artisan to emulate. Accordingly, we need artisans in all significant spheres in the private and public realms that are constitutive of the entity called Sierra Leone. Under this projection, since they hated the bodily tools of the artisan---the hand and the leg---the RUF was the apotheosis of theoretical consciousness: does theory lead to barbarism? Behind every fairly characterized historical barbarism, sharp eyes, another tool of artisans, will not fail to uncover a theoretical basis or, if you are not a 'Marxist', ground, Grund, if you studied philosophy at Heidelberg, or presupposition, if you "read" philosophy or other some other knicknack at Oxford or Cambridge. Harvard, a malata Heidelberg, Oxford or Cambridge, does not count here for the purposes of this sermon on the mount.


Subject: AO CONTEH'S LOSS IS NOT A LOSS FOR ALL SIERRA LEONE BUT SELF
From: Truly
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Date Posted: 03:25:47 02/09/08 ()
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Maada Mustapaha, the Ghost of Minah and the AU!
Written by Sidi Ibrahim Sheriff
Saturday, 09 February 2008

Please allow me to use your medium to respond to the bigoted point of view of Maada Mustapha on the Minah Ghost in relation to the AU Commission elections. Yes we lost to Gabon and Zambia with Gabon winning the Chairpersonship.

To the sincere Sierra Leoneans and Embassy staff in Addis who spent sleepless nights on the campaign, albeit a few days before the elections, the loss was not personal to Dr. Abdulai Conteh. It was a loss for Sierra Leone without bigots like Maada and his cohorts. It is amazing how Maada could reduce a national issue to some primitive and seemingly unenlightened analysis. What does FM Minah’s Ghost have to do with a Sierra Leonean who had the best credentials in the contest losing the elections?

Yes we lost the elections! We lost the elections because we were running against a Country whose president has been in power for generations. We lost the contest because this president, who has been in power for generations, was desperately determined to win. We lost because this president had an abundance of resources to use for the contest-flying his foreign minister candidate and other campaign envoys all over the continent and beyond, to every continental meeting, to every sub-regional meeting. They even had a campaign team in Addis one month before the elections-taking folks to dinner and interacting with colleague foreign ministers who would ultimately prevail on their presidents.

We lost also because the politics of the AU is usually fought along friendship, regional and linguistic lines: The Franco-phones rallied around Gabon. We lost also because our candidate is not a sitting foreign minister or Ambassador. More importantly also, we lost because our country for now lacks the resources to mount a huge continental campaign. The list goes on and on and on….!!!!!!!!!

There are some other disadvantages: Our president is new and has not made many friends on whom he can depend. Omar Bongo on the other hand has a good rapport with almost all heads of states that have been there for close to four years and over. We also had the disadvantage of providence which caused our president to arrive in Addis a day past the crucial opening that would have given him some opportunity to sell his candidate.

Coupled with the president’s delayed arrival was the absence of our foreign minister throughout the Ministerial sessions due to other engagements in the UK. We were also the last to nominate a candidate thereby coming into the race very late.

Based on my experience and I am sure the experience of so many who have had the privilege to attend African and other Summits, continental or regional elections have more to do with country campaigns than the credentials of the individual candidate. They have more to do with resources than with the personality of the individual candidate. I would therefore venture to say that our Candidate was by far the most qualified and better prepared to run the African Union during this critical transitional period of the Union. Unfortunately, the credentials were only a matter for officials at the AU Commission and not for the voting heads of states and governments.

Maada’s unabashed gratification, while not surprising, underscores not only how education has failed to develop his mind set, but also reveals the visceral hate he bears for his countrymen who are different. He is unpatriotic and will revel at any mishap facing his country as long as the party in power is not the SLPP. For me, president Koroma and other Sierra Leoneans who were on the ground in Addis, the loss was national. It was a lost opportunity for Sierra Leone! To introduce the theory of a Minah ghost just as a possible driver for our loss is merely illogical and plain stupid. I am therefore compelled to say a few words on the FM Minah Ghost phenomenon that Maada introduced into the fray.

I support the contributions made by some informed and disinterested parties during the exchanges on “Leonenet”. Let me however add a few comments. Does Maada ever know why FM Minah in a sensational Treason trial in which Minah was the most distinguished and high profile official became the 5th accused? Minah was 5th accused because Dr. Abdulai Conteh was reluctant to indict unless more evidence was provided. With the help of ethnic South-Easterners and the police, more evidence was brought before the Attorney-General. At the time, most South-Easterners wanted to celebrate the demise of N’gor Minah.

As someone rightly pointed out, Dr. Abdulai Conteh was only one of several prosecutors and Minah had several of Sierra Leone’s best legal minds in his defense. Those who had the final ability to determine Minah’s final fate were 1) the Judges, 2) the Jury and in the final analysis 3) the Mercy Committee. The trial went from the High Court to the Court of Appeals and eventually the Supreme Court. So would Maada agree that, based on his thinking, all the Judges in the various trial Chambers, the Jury and the Mercy Committee were complicit?

Let me hasten to remind Maada that his political mentor and name sake was a member of the Mercy Committee alongside other south-easterners and that Dr. Abdulai Conteh - based on principles and his opposition to the death penalty and to the annoyance of his colleague ministers - excused himself from the process of the Mercy Committee to give Minah a fair chance. But it was not surprising that his name sake, a member of the Mercy Committee, was more than happy to see Minah go to the gallows because of their political rivalries. He and Sama Banya had an interest to see Minah disappear from the political scene.

This was why Maada Mustapha and his sect were in their elements, passionately singing behind his name sake as he walked down to take his seat before the debates at the FBC Amphitheater in the early 90s, debates that were moderated by Mr. Palor Bangura. Maada’s name sake was now vying for the SLPP leadership without the potential threat of a Francis Minah challenge. If Francis Minah were alive, he, alongside Maada Salia, would have returned home to the SLPP. It is therefore hypocritical that most of the individuals who were unsympathetic to Minah are all of a sudden coming to his defense.

I wonder what some of them think about the Demise of Kemokai and the subsequent N’dongbowusu unrest - all factors that led to hatred for Minah in the south-east. Minah’s family should focus more on the betrayal of his kith and kin than on the role of a single individual who was a mere prosecutor, whose job was made easy by sworn testimonies from south-easterners who hated his guts.

Also, now that we are in the business of conceding so much power to Ghosts- should we use Maada’s theory to pontificate on the failure of Maada Bio’s quest for the SLPP leadership as well as Berewa’s bid for the presidency? Since the issue of Ghost hunting was so compelling to the Psyche and theoretical analysis of Maada Mustapha, one would be shocked to note that Maada failed to evoke the same theory during the recent SLPP convention and Sierra Leone General Elections.

So, were both Maada Bio and Berewa hunted by the Ghosts of 29 and 24 individuals executed by the NPRC/SLPP in 1992 and 1998? Berewa was by the way one of several prosecutors and Maada Bio was central in the NPRC executions in case Maada Mustapha is suffering from selective amnesia!!!!!! Or is it the case that Minah’s single life warrants more attention than the lives of over 50 individuals murdered in cold blood and majority of them without a single trial?

It is increasingly becoming my worrying conviction that some of our brothers from the other side of the country have been brainwashed to believe that in any Sierra Leone Enterprise, only the northerners should be or can be the culprits.

When Jimmy Kandeh in another context was busy making a so-called poignant political analyses some years ago in the Washington area on the failed tenure of the APC, all the names he knew to throw at the audience were northern names. It did not take long for some one in the audience to cripple his seemingly strong points with a simple question that forced the audience to focus on the Sama Banyas; the Salia Jusu-Sheriffs; the Ndomahinahs; the Michael Abdulais; the Joe-Jacksons; the Amara Bangalis; the Francis Minahs; the Ngobehs; the Massaquois; the Dabohs; the Bu-buaki Jabbies; the JB Daudas; the Kapindi Jamirus; the Gendemmehs; the list goes on: south-easterners and major players in the APC.

Interestingly, the real and actual ghost for individuals like Maada is Dr. Abdulai Conteh. The mere mentioning of his name evokes extreme jealousy and hate from some south-easterners. I am sure if Dr. Abdulai Conteh were south-easterner or should join the SLPP today he would without delay be immunized against the extreme hatred that is directed towards him. His only crime is being a consistent APC individual and a northerner: Plain envy!

We have got to put a stop to these myopic and naïve ways of doing commentary on the political landscape of Sierra Leone. We are all just too intelligent to see through bigotry and rabid tribal slants. Maada you cannot be called a Sierra Leonean if you fail to recognize that you share a common destiny with citizens who hail from Kambia to Sefadu, from Shenge to Falaba, from Pepel in Port Loko to Daru, from Sulima to Bumbuna, from Pendembu to Rotifunk, from Bo to Freetown. For me, fellow compatriots, this is all Sierra Leone and therefore means the world to me. The people who live in and hail from these areas are my brothers and sisters for whose rights and welfare I am prepared to fight. So my brothers and sisters both the failings of the APC and SLPP whether in their parts 1 or 2 were the collective responsibility of Sierra Leoneans from all corners of Sierra Leone.

It is time for us to begin to think national and embrace each other as compatriots who share a common destiny and vision to move “the land that we love, our Sierra Leone.”

Sidi Ibrahim Sheriff

Virginia, USA.
Last Updated ( Saturday, 09 February 2008 )

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Subject: Re: AO CONTEH'S LOSS IS NOT A LOSS FOR ALL SIERRA LEONE BUT
From: New Blood
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Date Posted: 10:57:18 02/09/08 ()
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Sidi Ibrahim Sheriff wrote re: Abdulai Conteh

"His only crime is being a consistent APC individual and a northerner: Plain envy!"

That is not his only crime my friend! In the first place Being APC or Notherner is no way synonymous with Thieving and Corruption linked to characters like Conteh:....Infact, there are millions of Northerners who identify with APC that are neither blameworthy or censurable for violations of moral or penal codes.....besides lettering from Cambridge,Oxford,Yale or Harvard does not immune a person from corrupt practices!

Considering that the prevalent issues at the African Union today are Corruption and HIV Aids, and Lawyer Abdulai Conteh adjudged to corrupt practices is certainly unqualified to head the AU in this era of CHANGE;

How can Conteh sway the thinking of the Libyans who wield so much influence in AU today, when they are aware that he had failed to demonstrate the ability and initiative to handle Ministerial responsibility honestly while he serving as Foreign Minister in the eighties?

FYI,Lawyer had failed to inform Pa Sheki about Libyan cash donation he had recieved for the OAU summit that took place in Freetown…Pa Sheki only got to know about the donation from the Libyans after Conteh approached them demanding that the expired cheque be re- issued in his own name:…and when he was questioned he simply claimed that he “forgot”

Just because the AU is seeking bright, positive and flexible people to act with the highest integrity and professionalism in all their endeavors,The AU can ill afford to trust it’s continental anti corruption campaign in the hands of a corrupt fellow like Abdulai Conteh

Before you guys cry Wolf Remember the two factors at play here: First is that OAU equals AU: Second,Old APC is not equal to New APC…


Subject: Re: AO CONTEH'S LOSS IS NOT A LOSS FOR ALL SIERRA LEONE BUT
From: Fen Plaba!
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Date Posted: 11:40:14 02/09/08 ()
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"That is not his only crime my friend! In the first place Being APC or Notherner is no way synonymous with Thieving and Corruption linked to characters like Conteh:....Infact, there are millions of Northerners who identify with APC that are neither blameworthy or censurable for violations of moral or penal codes.....besides lettering from Cambridge,Oxford,Yale or Harvard does not immune a person from corrupt practices!".............New Blood.

Bullseye! Sweet, concise, congent and 'smack-downish'. Couldn't have threaded the words better.


Subject: Re: AO CONTEH'S LOSS IS NOT A LOSS FOR ALL SIERRA LEONE BUT
From: Umpire
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Date Posted: 12:55:42 02/09/08 ()
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Hailmary, says I. Poignant, razor sharp reasoning: succulent, crisp, effusively pulsating with sense: den man ya no book o.


Subject: Re: AO CONTEH'S LOSS IS NOT A LOSS FOR ALL SIERRA LEONE BUT SELF
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
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Date Posted: 06:07:43 02/09/08 ()
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On reading Sidi's praise-singing and defence article on behalf of AO Conteh, I was touched by the calming and recondite words used by Sidi in defence of his mentor.

What I would like Sidi to understand is that it is not only the Minah's who are unhappy about AO Conteh. I wrote a lengthy piece to the AU, ILO, and ICFTU for them to oppose AO's nomination and candidacy. I sent them newspaper cuttings from 'West Africa' magazine 1981 and the ICFTU Review to show that AO is a morally bankrupt man who abused his seat to victimise his fellow countrymen. My very own father, an employee at the Sierra Leone Labour Congress (SLLC) was a victim of AO's injustice.

In September 1981, my father was arrested and charge for treason. He was remanded in custody and AO knew he had done nothing but to cry for his fellow citizens to have better conditions at work and an average standard of living. My father and others called a nationwide workers' strike. The workers supported the call and stayed home. The government bought over some members of the SLLC and AO was the principle who offered my father a post to call-off the nationwide strike. When my father refused to accept the post, he was sent back to Pademba Prisons and charge with Treason.

After negotiations broke down, Stevens officially declared a state of emergency on 7th September 1981 directly aimed at preventing the general strike called by SLLC on September 1st 1981.

During this period, eight people were shot dead, shops looted and over 40 people were arrested. Senior members of the SLLC were picked up after the State of Emergency broadcast and eventually taken to Pademba prisons. The current Minister of Information and Pious Foray were also rounded up and detained.

The explosive issue that most perturbed me was the Foreign Minister's, AO Conteh; responses to Ann Bolsover's interview in New York (see West Africa Archives 21 September 1981). I will posit here a question and answer that will show you how AO set the favourable stage for my father to be charge with Treason;

Question from Ann Bolsover: What do you feel caused the strike in the first place?

AO's answer: I would say, looking back at the situation and given the facts that are known to us, that this was just not industrial action. Behind it was a political agitation. The SLLC set itself up as a constituted political movement, or wanted to set itself up as a constituted political movement....

That answer saw the bracing of my father at Pademba Road Prison. Even when my father went on hunger strike, AO denied to the world saying, "...Another piece of news that they disseminated was that one of the detainees, Mr. Kabia was on hunger strike, when in fact there is no hunger strike in this place. Mr. Kabia is a sick man and he had to be put on a special diet. He was not on hunger strike". Sidi, your mentor may mean the world to you but to many of us, he is a morally bankrupt intellectual, a two-faced lying hypocritical backstabber. For his gains he can send his fellow men to the gallows.

Your mentor is a selfish character. When last did you visit Rogberray? Take a look at that village of less than 300 hundred people to tell you about the unaltruistic nature of your mentor.

My twin brother was shocked to see him in Belize five years ago. He confronted him and nearly lost his life. I had to write to the British High Commission to help save him from AO. I know Belize and what Belmopan is like, especially a foreigner that does not see eye to eye with the Chief Justice. My twin brother accused him of causing the demise of our father and the untimely dispersal of my father's children. As luck would have it we got him to Atlanta, Georgia safely, away from AO's plans to liquidate the so-called troublemaker that arrived in Belize to disrespect him.

The story about AO to some of us is unfinished business all the time. Only Time will Tell. The Lord will surely bring AO to atone for his deeds. Where is the money that he sold the lives of so many of his fellow citizens for? I believe I have seen and eaten more money in my short life span than AO - I mean in millions that have generously helped so many people more than he can ever think of in just this span in my resilient life. I have no respect for him and would pray he understands that to be educated is to graciously help the less unfortunate and not just a selected few from his close knit.

AO lost on account of his lack of moral responsibilities and discipline in his professional ethics. I wrote on the AU forum (nothing to hide) that such a man who cannot help improve conditions of a village of less than 30 houses is not fit to be elected to an office to run affairs of more than 100 million households. To be educated is one thing and to be competent is another.

AO's loss is his loss and do not believe is a Sierra Leone loss. Do you seriously believe he was wholeheartedly supported? His selfishness and stinginess are other factors that cost him the loss.

No one will vote for such a man with so much trouble; he left behind. The perpetrator always forgets his crimes but the victims will never forget. I will never punish AO for what he did but will want him to see what his actions of yesterday determined the destinies of others today and tomorrow. I travelled by road for two years with no money and passport to be where I am today because no one was there to willingly help. The God that I had, showed me so much beauty that I am able to forgive the likes of AO but will not stay silent to see his likes continues to destroy the lives of others. Any attempt to have elected him to head the AU would have ended in a disgrace for Sierra Leone and a disastrous outcome for entire Africa. The likes of AO should stay silent and gradually help replenish their dented character with good.


Subject: Re: AO CONTEH'S LOSS IS NOT A LOSS FOR ALL SIERRA LEONE BUT SELF
From: Fen Plaba!
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Date Posted: 06:41:20 02/09/08 ()
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I am very touched by your story, Chez. It really shows the rancid persecution of the Siaka Stevens government of all who disagreed with them, even on matters of principle. What a sad, disgraceful chapter in our nation's history.
Those of us who support President Koroma do so while still casting a wary eye at APC's legacy. My support of President Koroma, for example, is solely based on the belief that he would straighten out Salone's economic problems and not because of love of APC. If a skunk emerges tomorrow as the party's flagbearer, see Fen Plaba run away!
By the way, I used to visit a charismatic, gap-toothed cousin of my dad's in Brookfields who was always gracious to even the 'smallest' visitor. Food was always on the tablle! My cousins, the late Sidiki Daoe, and Mohamed Daoe used to live in his house, gratis, at various times on their way up. I wonder if that was your father....God Bless, bro!


Subject: Re: AO CONTEH'S LOSS IS NOT A LOSS FOR ALL SIERRA LEONE BUT SELF
From: KABBS KANU to Fen Plaba
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Date Posted: 07:54:28 02/09/08 ()
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"the late Sidiki Daoe...,".

FEN PLABA, are you referring to Sidique Dao , of the FBC of the 1970s who headed the Housing scheme in the old APC government ? Don't tell me he too is dead. Please clarify.


Subject: Re: AO CONTEH'S LOSS IS NOT A LOSS FOR ALL SIERRA LEONE BUT SELF
From: Fen Plaba!
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Date Posted: 08:28:41 02/09/08 ()
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Indeed Kabs, Sidique Daoe is dead....a number of years back. I travelled to Maryland to see him after they released him from the hospital. He had been flown in very sick. When I saw him after his treatment, he seemed well, enthusiastic about his job prospects at NASSIT and was gearing to go. About two weeks after he left, I got a call from Freetown that he was in a coma from which he never recovered. May his Soul RIP.


Subject: Re: AO CONTEH'S LOSS IS NOT A LOSS FOR ALL SIERRA LEONE BUT SELF
From: KABBS KANU
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Date Posted: 09:05:10 02/09/08 ()
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I am sorry to hear that my great buddy and one of the men I respected most at FBC, Abubakarr Sidique Dao, is dead. It is a great loss. We are losing our collegues faster .


Subject: Re: AO CONTEH'S LOSS IS NOT A LOSS FOR ALL SIERRA LEONE BUT SELF
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
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Date Posted: 08:13:48 02/09/08 ()
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He died some years back - say around 2001/2. He was the Deputy Director-General of NASSIT up until his death.


Subject: Re: AO CONTEH'S LOSS IS NOT A LOSS FOR ALL SIERRA LEONE BUT
From: Al Barney
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Date Posted: 16:30:14 02/09/08 ()
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Kabs, S.Doa died in March of 2003 and was laid to rest after a brief service at his house at Spur Road. May his soul rest in peace.

With AO Conteh, it seems the Minah ghost phenomenon is in itself gloomy and not scary enough but these guys would forever be found guilty in the court of public opinion for the blatant disregard for the rights of innocent citizens that continued to languish in poverty while they imported Italian marbles to furnish the homes they built from stolen funds.


Subject: Re: AO CONTEH'S LOSS IS NOT A LOSS FOR ALL SIERRA LEONE BUT SELF
From: Kalos
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Date Posted: 08:43:15 02/09/08 ()
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The late Sidiki's days with the ministry of education were exemplary and a vehicle for the furtherance of education for the less fortunate in Sierra Leone.


Subject: Re: AO CONTEH'S LOSS IS NOT A LOSS FOR ALL SIERRA LEONE BUT SELF
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
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Date Posted: 07:24:58 02/09/08 ()
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Correct! The late JB Kabia stayed at Bass/Bath Street. I was in my early primary education then. Sidiki and Mohamed are my uncles too. Uncle Sidiki died a few years back. Uncle Mohamed is in the UK. His memorial anniversay is on the 14 February (valentines day)- he suffered and prejudicially lost his life because he was not bought.

Sierra Leone needs an altruistic character. A person who believes honour and nobility is greater than the crude acquisition of ill-gotten wealth. With honour and nobility comes unimaginable wealth. Every person that comes in contact with such a person and progresses will forever remain to believe and support the ideology of altruism.

What the likes of AO Conteh did to my hope to progress in this world changed my whole outlook on life. Trusting no one save God. Their actions induced a sense of freedom and adventure, risks and rewards, gambling and daring acts of courage. It turned me to become a person of passion and excitement.

They also made me to believe that I can do anything, that I am extremely capable, and a true survivor.

They create in me a sense of being of a highly flexible individual who can adapt to any new circumstances quickly, and has excellent reflexes; often, important decisions are made in seconds, seemingly impulsively even.

Bro the negative actions of the likes of AO Conteh transformed my understanding of life – that the negative actions of others should be potentials tools for positivity. I have still not completed my mission but I will thank God he saw me through all these years. My twin bro, now in the US, went through the similar. He is really angry with the likes of AO Conteh.

I take what they gave us with equanimity that one day they will atone. I do not carry grudge around but will always remember the cold nights and hot nights in faraway lands. They are my pillars to liberate others. Whenever I see a problem, my reflexes are able to calculate a resolve with minutes. Thank God for the sufferings gave beauty to my eyes, enlightenment onto my paths and hope is preserved in me that one day, what my father suffered for will be made manifest. The end of the immoral is misery!! God Bless you Bro!!


Subject: Re: AO CONTEH'S LOSS IS NOT A LOSS FOR ALL SIERRA LEONE BUT SELF
From: Fen Plaba!
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Date Posted: 09:12:46 02/09/08 ()
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Your father JB Kabia, my dear Chez, was indeed one of the true giants of Sierra Leone, toiling unglamorously away from the limelight, pushing assidiously for workers rights, human rights, refusing to be bought by the Siaka Stevens political machine and being persecuted for his uncompromising integrity and patriotism to country, and not to a personality cult.

With all his responsibilities and his valor, he was the funniest man I ever met. If you were in a room with JB Kabia, he would have you in stitches as he cracked joke after joke. What a wonderful man!

I remember him stopping by our house in Masiaka, on his way to Freetown, when the Labour strike was just beginning. My dad was concerned about Koth Kabia's safety and asked him to be circumspect but your dad very calmly and serenely told my pops that the strike would continue despite attempts to buy him off by the powers-that-be. He was a small man, short of stature, but his unwavering integrity and steely courage shone through and filled the room that day. He was harshly persecuted by Siaka Stevens because that Labor strike awakened people and nearly kicked APC out of power. A dispassionate rendition of contemporary Salone history will one day acknowledge the immense contributions of the great JB Kabia. I am proud I shared a tiny slice of DNA with him. May his soul continue to thrive in Heaven. Best regards.


Subject: Re: AO CONTEH'S LOSS IS NOT A LOSS FOR ALL SIERRA LEONE BUT SELF
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
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Date Posted: 09:31:41 02/09/08 ()
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Thanks coz!! His death left a great vacuum and disunity amongst his people to this day. With God's divine hand all shall be well soon.

Sometimes I wonder what is crime was! All he wanted was to instill commensality into the heart and minds of our leaders. You cannot eat all and let the people who create the wealth live in dire conditions - such I recall him saying is chaos to come. That chaos came and I hope we have learnt the lessons that you cannot ignore the responsibilities of making better conditions for the people who thrive to allow the economic machinery of society to properly function.


Subject: Re: AO CONTEH'S LOSS IS NOT A LOSS FOR ALL SIERRA LEONE BUT SELF
From: YONGAWO
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Date Posted: 14:11:40 02/09/08 ()
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Chez,

My father shared the same agony with your dad. My poor dad was locked up in a police cell for respecting the call from your dad and his comrades. Siaka Stevens was in Makeni, hiding away from the Labour Uprising in Freetown. He personally ordered my father who was an NPA engineer arrested for refusing to go to work. Since then my poor father develoved high blood pressure and other related ailments that he has never recovered from. I thank Allah he is still alive and kicking at 82. There is more to say but this not the place.
May your father's soul continue to rest in heaven.


Subject: Re: AO CONTEH'S LOSS IS NOT A LOSS FOR ALL SIERRA LEONE BUT SELF
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
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Date Posted: 14:16:19 02/09/08 ()
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My email is winakabs@rock.com. We can help each other. Thanks for letting me know.


Subject: Re: AO CONTEH'S LOSS IS NOT A LOSS FOR ALL SIERRA LEONE BUT SELF
From: Kalos
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Date Posted: 08:36:20 02/09/08 ()
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Thanks for sharing your touching story, Chez. We all can learn from your resolve and potentially prepare us for model contributions in our daily lives. The late Sidiki D. was a source of inspiration to some of us; his untimely death was a huge blow to most of his colleagues, friends and not to mention your immediate and extended families. The last time I saw him was at SM Hospital, I had a brief conversation with him the content of which continues to be vivid in my mind. He was my hero. Again, thanks for sharing the February 14th. date, it means a lot to some of us. May his soul continues to be in perfect peace.

On a light moment, please continue to keep your identity private from people like Fen Plaba. FP is a wiz in identity protection; you can not imagine the time and efforts I have employed to identify him. Albeit, It serves me better to follow your postings on moniker basis. All the best to you.


Subject: Re: AO CONTEH'S LOSS IS NOT A LOSS FOR ALL SIERRA LEONE BUT SELF
From: KABBS KANU
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Date Posted: 08:08:07 02/09/08 ()
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"Uncle Sidiki died a few years back. Uncle Mohamed is in the UK. His memorial anniversay is on the 14 February (valentines day)- he suffered and prejudicially lost his life because he was not bought."

Where did he die ? What happened to him ? I am very, very sad to hear this because Sidique Dao was one of the guys I respected most at FBC. What a wonderful gentleman. The last time I saw him we drove in the same cab from a party at FBC to Brookfields . Yes, he lived at Brookfields like me. Please answer my questions.


Subject: Re: AO CONTEH'S LOSS IS NOT A LOSS FOR ALL SIERRA LEONE BUT SELF
From: Kalos
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Date Posted: 08:53:16 02/09/08 ()
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Indeed, he was a wonderful and generous gentleman, KABS. It is not too late to feature him with your brilliant pen. I believe CHEZ and FP can provide you additional information.


Subject: Re: AO CONTEH'S LOSS IS NOT A LOSS FOR ALL SIERRA LEONE BUT SELF
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
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Date Posted: 08:20:37 02/09/08 ()
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In Freetown. He was ill for some time. I spoke to him the night before he died - all he was saying on the phone was "tell Musu (wife) to give me water". He was lock up by the Kabba government and upon his release he travelled to the west. I met him at his residence at Kings Cross, London. After that he was made Deputy-Director General of NASSIT. Not long on the job, he fell ill. Went to the US for treatment but was brought back to Sierra Leone. I do not know what actually killed him- some say - you know the Africa thing - den want his job so dem put sontin for am. Others have another story. Many his soul continue to rest in peace. He was a man for all.


Subject: Re: AO CONTEH'S LOSS IS NOT A LOSS FOR ALL SIERRA LEONE BUT SELF
From: Umpire
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Date Posted: 10:25:53 02/09/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
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I understand your position towards the Pa and his epigones like AO. Leave the matter to God! On a mundane basis, Bra, I read that you are loaded; I need some, if you get my drift. Kabs has my e-mail.


Subject: Re: AO CONTEH'S LOSS IS NOT A LOSS FOR ALL SIERRA LEONE BUT SELF
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
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Date Posted: 10:36:28 02/09/08 ()
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I am not loaded. Whatever is in my hands belong to the people I meet. I have the means to resources and not the physical or liquid cash. I believe in transforming ideas into liquid - that has been my job since I left Sierra Leone in my late teens. If you have an idea that could benefit a lot of people, please fill me in and the venture capital will not be a problem to outsource.

There is one idea on the table and the idea is looking for academics like you. It is similar to 'Boys Town Jerusalem'. It is for the benefit of the disadvantaged in Sierra Leone. At present there is 12 acres of land for its construction. What is needed is a 'Steering Group' to commence its initiation.

If we sacrifice ours today for the betterment of the minds of tomorrow, our nation will receive the glory it once had. Stay Blessed and hope you find it in your heart to consider the 'Boys Town Sierra Leone' ideology.


Subject: Re: AO CONTEH'S LOSS IS NOT A LOSS FOR ALL SIERRA LEONE BUT SELF
From: Umpire
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Date Posted: 18:04:04 02/09/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
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I was only kidding. Seriously, though, I have a few business clients, actually ip clients that may productively collaborate with you. I'll e-mail you. Remember though, I am in it strictly for money, not for any contents of higher understanding or ideas. I came here to make money, period. Call me a pimp of Western erudition, if you wish. But I always follow the money,which does not preclude collateral benefits inuring to "we Salone".


Subject: Re: AO CONTEH'S LOSS IS NOT A LOSS FOR ALL SIERRA LEONE BUT SELF
From: KABBS KANU
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Date Posted: 09:06:17 02/09/08 ()
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Thank you, Chez. May God bless his soul.


Subject: Re: AO CONTEH'S LOSS IS NOT A LOSS FOR ALL SIERRA LEONE BUT SELF
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
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Date Posted: 09:08:25 02/09/08 ()
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Amen!!


Subject: Re: AO CONTEH'S LOSS IS NOT A LOSS FOR ALL SIERRA LEONE BUT SELF
From: Bai Bureh
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Date Posted: 07:03:46 02/09/08 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
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Jack you bin know Sorie Daoe nar Blackhall road Kissy?


Subject: Re: AO CONTEH'S LOSS IS NOT A LOSS FOR ALL SIERRA LEONE BUT SELF
From: Fen Plaba!
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Date Posted: 09:34:56 02/09/08 ()
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Ar nor too memba am. I was more closely in touch with the Daoe children of the late Haja I'Mah, my aunt: Mustapha, Sidique, Mohamed, Oya and Bai Daoe and Dr Daoe in Mauritania. I also had the pleasure of knowing, and the heartache of enduring the tragic death a few months ago in the US, of the brilliant Dr Sulaiman Daoe who studied in Egypt and worked in Kuwait before coming to the States about a dozen years ago.


Subject: Re: AO CONTEH'S LOSS IS NOT A LOSS FOR ALL SIERRA LEONE BUT SELF
From: Umpire
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Date Posted: 10:39:02 02/09/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
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Appropriately, it the day before the holy day. FM, what do you think of my pitch. The check, as a consequence of my adoption of your advice, has been detained, until I mend my ways. Soon, e go begin wer donglin, instead of nigtie. The rosy world I had is coming apart; things are falling apart. The peaceful evenings, punctuated by Viking Dionysian frenzy, are tragically tipped in the direction of gloom. Poor me: gloom, I shall resist, however. I will take back my nirvana.


Subject: Re: AO CONTEH'S LOSS IS NOT A LOSS FOR ALL SIERRA LEONE BUT SELF
From: Fen Plaba!
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Date Posted: 11:29:02 02/09/08 ()
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Wetin? Di Check wan loss? Umpire, off to the lawns! Mighty men of Africa, stop tapping the forum keys and grab your racquets! Umpire, ump away buddy! We will arrest the gathering gloom and blow at the embers with pouted puffs while you go back to work. Ignite those homestead flames and send the Viking into rambunctious rhapsodies, the way only a Salone Sabisman can! Just promise to sneak away, into the forum every few hours. We need your cerebral exertions here on the forum even as you do the Manpikin bizness between the Nordic sheets. Remember, we need that check! You rock, my brother.


Subject: Re: AO CONTEH'S LOSS IS NOT A LOSS FOR ALL SIERRA LEONE BUT SELF
From: Umpire
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Date Posted: 12:42:35 02/09/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
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Man o man: dis forum na crack, and I'm loving it! FP, thanks for your concern. Your proffer will be taken provisionally. But what a feat! Cerebral exertions in the heat of the action? I better stop now, provisionally: she has braided her soft, superfine blonde hair into Viking horns. I have to protect my butt. I hear the phone ringing. Wait a minute: she is on call. Good. I'm back.


Subject: BRA ENVIABLE AND OTHERS FYI
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 01:12:29 02/09/08 ()
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Maada Mustapaha, the Ghost of Minah and the AU!
Written by Sidi Ibrahim Sheriff
Saturday, 09 February 2008
Please allow me to use your medium to respond to the bigoted point of view of Maada Mustapha on the Minah Ghost in relation to the AU Commission elections. Yes we lost to Gabon and Zambia with Gabon winning the Chairpersonship.
To the sincere Sierra Leoneans and Embassy staff in Addis who spent sleepless nights on the campaign, albeit a few days before the elections, the loss was not personal to Dr. Abdulai Conteh. It was a loss for Sierra Leone without bigots like Maada and his cohorts. It is amazing how Maada could reduce a national issue to some primitive and seemingly unenlightened analysis. What does FM Minah’s Ghost have to do with a Sierra Leonean who had the best credentials in the contest losing the elections?

Yes we lost the elections! We lost the elections because we were running against a Country whose president has been in power for generations. We lost the contest because this president, who has been in power for generations, was desperately determined to win. We lost because this president had an abundance of resources to use for the contest-flying his foreign minister candidate and other campaign envoys all over the continent and beyond, to every continental meeting, to every sub-regional meeting. They even had a campaign team in Addis one month before the elections-taking folks to dinner and interacting with colleague foreign ministers who would ultimately prevail on their presidents.

We lost also because the politics of the AU is usually fought along friendship, regional and linguistic lines: The Franco-phones rallied around Gabon. We lost also because our candidate is not a sitting foreign minister or Ambassador. More importantly also, we lost because our country for now lacks the resources to mount a huge continental campaign. The list goes on and on and on….!!!!!!!!!

There are some other disadvantages: Our president is new and has not made many friends on whom he can depend. Omar Bongo on the other hand has a good rapport with almost all heads of states that have been there for close to four years and over. We also had the disadvantage of providence which caused our president to arrive in Addis a day past the crucial opening that would have given him some opportunity to sell his candidate.

Coupled with the president’s delayed arrival was the absence of our foreign minister throughout the Ministerial sessions due to other engagements in the UK. We were also the last to nominate a candidate thereby coming into the race very late.

Based on my experience and I am sure the experience of so many who have had the privilege to attend African and other Summits, continental or regional elections have more to do with country campaigns than the credentials of the individual candidate. They have more to do with resources than with the personality of the individual candidate. I would therefore venture to say that our Candidate was by far the most qualified and better prepared to run the African Union during this critical transitional period of the Union. Unfortunately, the credentials were only a matter for officials at the AU Commission and not for the voting heads of states and governments.

Maada’s unabashed gratification, while not surprising, underscores not only how education has failed to develop his mind set, but also reveals the visceral hate he bears for his countrymen who are different. He is unpatriotic and will revel at any mishap facing his country as long as the party in power is not the SLPP. For me, president Koroma and other Sierra Leoneans who were on the ground in Addis, the loss was national. It was a lost opportunity for Sierra Leone! To introduce the theory of a Minah ghost just as a possible driver for our loss is merely illogical and plain stupid. I am therefore compelled to say a few words on the FM Minah Ghost phenomenon that Maada introduced into the fray.

I support the contributions made by some informed and disinterested parties during the exchanges on “Leonenet”. Let me however add a few comments. Does Maada ever know why FM Minah in a sensational Treason trial in which Minah was the most distinguished and high profile official became the 5th accused? Minah was 5th accused because Dr. Abdulai Conteh was reluctant to indict unless more evidence was provided. With the help of ethnic South-Easterners and the police, more evidence was brought before the Attorney-General. At the time, most South-Easterners wanted to celebrate the demise of N’gor Minah.

As someone rightly pointed out, Dr. Abdulai Conteh was only one of several prosecutors and Minah had several of Sierra Leone’s best legal minds in his defense. Those who had the final ability to determine Minah’s final fate were 1) the Judges, 2) the Jury and in the final analysis 3) the Mercy Committee. The trial went from the High Court to the Court of Appeals and eventually the Supreme Court. So would Maada agree that, based on his thinking, all the Judges in the various trial Chambers, the Jury and the Mercy Committee were complicit?

Let me hasten to remind Maada that his political mentor and name sake was a member of the Mercy Committee alongside other south-easterners and that Dr. Abdulai Conteh - based on principles and his opposition to the death penalty and to the annoyance of his colleague ministers - excused himself from the process of the Mercy Committee to give Minah a fair chance. But it was not surprising that his name sake, a member of the Mercy Committee, was more than happy to see Minah go to the gallows because of their political rivalries. He and Sama Banya had an interest to see Minah disappear from the political scene.

This was why Maada Mustapha and his sect were in their elements, passionately singing behind his name sake as he walked down to take his seat before the debates at the FBC Amphitheater in the early 90s, debates that were moderated by Mr. Palor Bangura. Maada’s name sake was now vying for the SLPP leadership without the potential threat of a Francis Minah challenge. If Francis Minah were alive, he, alongside Maada Salia, would have returned home to the SLPP. It is therefore hypocritical that most of the individuals who were unsympathetic to Minah are all of a sudden coming to his defense.

I wonder what some of them think about the Demise of Kemokai and the subsequent N’dongbowusu unrest - all factors that led to hatred for Minah in the south-east. Minah’s family should focus more on the betrayal of his kith and kin than on the role of a single individual who was a mere prosecutor, whose job was made easy by sworn testimonies from south-easterners who hated his guts.

Also, now that we are in the business of conceding so much power to Ghosts- should we use Maada’s theory to pontificate on the failure of Maada Bio’s quest for the SLPP leadership as well as Berewa’s bid for the presidency? Since the issue of Ghost hunting was so compelling to the Psyche and theoretical analysis of Maada Mustapha, one would be shocked to note that Maada failed to evoke the same theory during the recent SLPP convention and Sierra Leone General Elections.

So, were both Maada Bio and Berewa hunted by the Ghosts of 29 and 24 individuals executed by the NPRC/SLPP in 1992 and 1998? Berewa was by the way one of several prosecutors and Maada Bio was central in the NPRC executions in case Maada Mustapha is suffering from selective amnesia!!!!!! Or is it the case that Minah’s single life warrants more attention than the lives of over 50 individuals murdered in cold blood and majority of them without a single trial?

It is increasingly becoming my worrying conviction that some of our brothers from the other side of the country have been brainwashed to believe that in any Sierra Leone Enterprise, only the northerners should be or can be the culprits.

When Jimmy Kandeh in another context was busy making a so-called poignant political analyses some years ago in the Washington area on the failed tenure of the APC, all the names he knew to throw at the audience were northern names. It did not take long for some one in the audience to cripple his seemingly strong points with a simple question that forced the audience to focus on the Sama Banyas; the Salia Jusu-Sheriffs; the Ndomahinahs; the Michael Abdulais; the Joe-Jacksons; the Amara Bangalis; the Francis Minahs; the Ngobehs; the Massaquois; the Dabohs; the Bu-buaki Jabbies; the JB Daudas; the Kapindi Jamirus; the Gendemmehs; the list goes on: south-easterners and major players in the APC.

Interestingly, the real and actual ghost for individuals like Maada is Dr. Abdulai Conteh. The mere mentioning of his name evokes extreme jealousy and hate from some south-easterners. I am sure if Dr. Abdulai Conteh were south-easterner or should join the SLPP today he would without delay be immunized against the extreme hatred that is directed towards him. His only crime is being a consistent APC individual and a northerner: Plain envy!

We have got to put a stop to these myopic and naïve ways of doing commentary on the political landscape of Sierra Leone. We are all just too intelligent to see through bigotry and rabid tribal slants. Maada you cannot be called a Sierra Leonean if you fail to recognize that you share a common destiny with citizens who hail from Kambia to Sefadu, from Shenge to Falaba, from Pepel in Port Loko to Daru, from Sulima to Bumbuna, from Pendembu to Rotifunk, from Bo to Freetown. For me, fellow compatriots, this is all Sierra Leone and therefore means the world to me. The people who live in and hail from these areas are my brothers and sisters for whose rights and welfare I am prepared to fight. So my brothers and sisters both the failings of the APC and SLPP whether in their parts 1 or 2 were the collective responsibility of Sierra Leoneans from all corners of Sierra Leone.

It is time for us to begin to think national and embrace each other as compatriots who share a common destiny and vision to move “the land that we love, our Sierra Leone.”

Sidi Ibrahim Sheriff

Virginia, USA.

Last Updated ( Saturday


Subject: Re: BRA ENVIABLE AND OTHERS FYI
From: Tamba Moiwo
To: All
Date Posted: 08:31:42 02/09/08 ()
Email Address: moiwo@hotmail.co.uk
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"We lost the elections because we were running against a Country whose president has been in power for generations".

This is a reckless admission by all accounts.If you knew this score, would it not have been prudent to wait until yours was in power for sometime?

Bo inna lef we ba.AO Conteh is a rank opportunist.The man graduated from Lada-Driving Lawyer beaten up at Pademba Road( an act for which the Bar Association in their defence solidarised with him) to a C130 Merc owner after the 1977 elections--quiet a leap would you not say?

regards

Tamba Moiwo


Subject: Re: BRA ENVIABLE AND OTHERS FYI
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
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Date Posted: 06:15:49 02/09/08 ()
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On reading Sidi's praise-singing and defence article on behalf of AO Conteh, I was touched by the calming and recondite words used by Sidi in defence of his mentor.

What I would like Sidi to understand is that it is not only the Minah's who are unhappy about AO Conteh. I wrote a lengthy piece to the AU, ILO, and ICFTU for them to oppose AO's nomination and candidacy. I sent them newspaper cuttings from 'West Africa' magazine 1981 and the ICFTU Review to show that AO is a morally bankrupt man who abused his seat to victimise his fellow countrymen. My very own father, an employee at the Sierra Leone Labour Congress (SLLC) was a victim of AO's injustice.

In September 1981, my father was arrested and charge for treason. He was remanded in custody and AO knew he had done nothing but to cry for his fellow citizens to have better conditions at work and an average standard of living. My father and others called a nationwide workers' strike. The workers supported the call and stayed home. The government bought over some members of the SLLC and AO was the principle who offered my father a post to call-off the nationwide strike. When my father refused to accept the post, he was sent back to Pademba Prisons and charge with Treason.

After negotiations broke down, Stevens officially declared a state of emergency on 7th September 1981 directly aimed at preventing the general strike called by SLLC on September 1st 1981.

During this period, eight people were shot dead, shops looted and over 40 people were arrested. Senior members of the SLLC were picked up after the State of Emergency broadcast and eventually taken to Pademba prisons. The current Minister of Information and Pious Foray were also rounded up and detained.

The explosive issue that most perturbed me was the Foreign Minister's, AO Conteh; responses to Ann Bolsover's interview in New York (see West Africa Archives 21 September 1981). I will posit here a question and answer that will show you how AO set the favourable stage for my father to be charge with Treason;

Question from Ann Bolsover: What do you feel caused the strike in the first place?

AO's answer: I would say, looking back at the situation and given the facts that are known to us, that this was just not industrial action. Behind it was a political agitation. The SLLC set itself up as a constituted political movement, or wanted to set itself up as a constituted political movement....

That answer saw the bracing of my father at Pademba Road Prison. Even when my father went on hunger strike, AO denied to the world saying, "...Another piece of news that they disseminated was that one of the detainees, Mr. Kabia was on hunger strike, when in fact there is no hunger strike in this place. Mr. Kabia is a sick man and he had to be put on a special diet. He was not on hunger strike". Sidi, your mentor may mean the world to you but to many of us, he is a morally bankrupt intellectual, a two-faced lying hypocritical backstabber. For his gains he can send his fellow men to the gallows.

Your mentor is a selfish character. When last did you visit Rogberray? Take a look at that village of less than 300 hundred people to tell you about the unaltruistic nature of your mentor.

My twin brother was shocked to see him in Belize five years ago. He confronted him and nearly lost his life. I had to write to the British High Commission to help save him from AO. I know Belize and what Belmopan is like, especially a foreigner that does not see eye to eye with the Chief Justice. My twin brother accused him of causing the demise of our father and the untimely dispersal of my father's children. As luck would have it we got him to Atlanta, Georgia safely, away from AO's plans to liquidate the so-called troublemaker that arrived in Belize to disrespect him.

The story about AO to some of us is unfinished business all the time. Only Time will Tell. The Lord will surely bring AO to atone for his deeds. Where is the money that he sold the lives of so many of his fellow citizens for? I believe I have seen and eaten more money in my short life span than AO - I mean in millions that have generously helped so many people more than he can ever think of in just this span in my resilient life. I have no respect for him and would pray he understands that to be educated is to graciously help the less unfortunate and not just a selected few from his close knit.

AO lost on account of his lack of moral responsibilities and discipline in his professional ethics. I wrote on the AU forum (nothing to hide) that such a man who cannot help improve conditions of a village of less than 30 houses is not fit to be elected to an office to run affairs of more than 100 million households. To be educated is one thing and to be competent is another.

AO's loss is his loss and do not believe is a Sierra Leone loss. Do you seriously believe he was wholeheartedly supported? His selfishness and stinginess are other factors that cost him the loss.

No one will vote for such a man with so much trouble; he left behind. The perpetrator always forgets his crimes but the victims will never forget. I will never punish AO for what he did but will want him to see what his actions of yesterday determined the destinies of others today and tomorrow. I travelled by road for two years with no money and passport to be where I am today because no one was there to willingly help. The God that I had, showed me so much beauty that I am able to forgive the likes of AO but will not stay silent to see his likes continues to destroy the lives of others. Any attempt to have elected him to head the AU would have ended in a disgrace for Sierra Leone and a disastrous outcome for entire Africa. The likes of AO should stay silent and gradually help replenish their dented character with good.


Subject: PIC OF THE DAY
From: KING LOGGY
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Date Posted: 00:37:50 02/09/08 ()
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“Little girl, it looks like you are leaning to the right… here, let me help you”


Subject: CONFIRMED BY UNBEATABLE COCORIOKO : Gibril Wilson Sa.Leonean
From: Town Crier
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Date Posted: 22:38:20 02/08/08 ()
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www.cocorioko.net

One of the heroes of American football , the excellent Safety who immensely contributed to the sensational Super Bowl victory of the New York Giants over the New England Patriots last weekend --Gibril Wilson-is a Krio-speaking , cassava leaves soup -eating Sierra Leonean like any of us .COCORIOKO confirmed the story today and is planning to feature the great Gibril Wilson on this newspaper soon. If you have been having doubts since reading our story this week, start beating the goombay drums in 'prideful' glee.Gibril Wilson is a Sierra Leonean par excellence ! !

The Editor-in -Chief , after thorough investigations, had a breakthrough today and spoke lengthily with some family members of Mr. Gibril Wilson.

The inimitable , exciting and magnificient footballer , Gibril Wilson, is the proud son of Haja Tattie (Salamatu ) who lives in Maryland , USA. His father , Pa. Wilson recently passed away in Conakry , Guinea. Wilson's siblings are his elder brother , Sheriff ; other brothers Yussuf and Alhassan , who served in the U.S.Army ; Infact, Alhassan is the twin partner of Wilson's sister , Makuta , who is married to one-time Leone Stars soccer sensation, Leslie Allen; Their youngest sister is called Hassanatu.

Gibril came to the U.S . when he was 6 and was reared in California by his aunt, Isatu Bangura. He is described as a very humble young man whose successes have not gone into his head.

Infact, Gibril 's family is organizing a big Super Bowl party for him next Saturday February 16, 2007 at the Best West End Hotel in Maryland. The party will draw a huge crowd of Sierra Leoneans , many of whom will be going there to catch a glimpse of the American football hero with Sierra Leonean blood running in his veins. We will cover the party in full.

This discovery must shame our detractors once again. Since we reported on Monday that Gibril Wilson is a Sierra Leonean, some of our detractors who would rather live in ignorant bliss or who underrate their own country have been bashing us on the COCORIOKO FORUM. Now they will eat their own words raw, because COCORIOKO was right again--Gibril Wilson hailed from Sierra Leone, a small West African country that excels in producing eminent citizens who rock the world in sundry


Subject: Re: CONFIRMED BY UNBEATABLE COCORIOKO : Gibril Wilson Sa.Leo
From: Homeboy
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Date Posted: 04:38:27 02/09/08 ()
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I just had a discussion with "Gibo" about the ongoing debate at Cocorioko and the brother cant believe his ears ...matter of fact we finally concurred that he has nothing to prove to armchair quarterbacks who bear no relevance to his promising career...

I think that the naysayers are mostly "Pull Him Down Witchman Sierra Leoneans" who perceive arbitrary limits to the achievement of progressive brothers and sisters that hail from the motherland.......in the end the success of others becomes their own failures!..."but dem go taya"

Similarly if anyone had dared posted that the songwriter for the famous hip hop star Kanyon West and aspiring Hollywood star of "Wired" Idriss Elba are also "Homeboys"..... "dem go say nar lie" ....Bo if oona nor sabi Sa Lone person or oona nor know natin but am nor therefore nor to Sierra Leonean?



Subject: Re: CONFIRMED BY UNBEATABLE COCORIOKO : Gibril Wilson Sa.Leo
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 20:42:38 02/09/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
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Moderator, does this posting constitute a "personal attack", incredibly, on all Sierra Leoneans? Beyond the archaic reference to witchcraft and other cultural obscurities, the posting is, under my reasoned definition of critique, TRASH.


Subject: Re: CONFIRMED BY UNBEATABLE COCORIOKO : Gibril Wilson Sa.Leo
From: alcole
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Date Posted: 09:32:24 02/09/08 ()
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you are sure true, Idriss Elba was born of Sierra Leonean Father and Ghanian mother in England.


Subject: Re: CONFIRMED BY UNBEATABLE COCORIOKO : Gibril Wilson Sa.Leonean
From: alcole
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Date Posted: 23:24:23 02/08/08 ()
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Thanks cocorioko, here goes my story about Gibril Wilson. Your coverage next week about Gibril Wilson will shut up all the so call, ignorant educated fools. On Monday I posted that Gibril was living with Sharif and yousef in the Bronx when he came to the state. Your report has proved me right.


Subject: Re: CONFIRMED BY UNBEATABLE COCORIOKO : Gibril Wilson Sa.Leonean
From: POLITICAL
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Date Posted: 22:51:06 02/08/08 ()
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I don't think you will call someone who doubt the story detractors. We all know sa lone man like to falsify things. Remember when Joseph hills went to Sierra Leone? The info was that his origin was from sierra leone. Joe hills never said so, but it became a nationwide info. So, I can give you many instances about sa lone man. So, for me to believe you have to give me proof especially a superstar like Wilson whose personal details is all over the internet. When I first read this, I search the internet extensively, but all I got was born in CA. So it just a demand to get the proof.


Subject: Re: CONFIRMED BY UNBEATABLE COCORIOKO : Gibril Wilson Sa.Leonean
From: KABS KANU
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Date Posted: 00:21:09 02/09/08 ()
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For our credibility sake, we always check our stories before we publish them. Somebody was rude to us calling us Lie-lie Cocorioko. Why would we lie ? I am happy that we proved our detractors wrong once more.


Subject: Re: CONFIRMED BY UNBEATABLE COCORIOKO : Gibril Wilson Sa.Leonean
From: Kamara
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Date Posted: 12:28:48 02/09/08 ()
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You do not have to prove anything to people who do not believe. The guy is Sierra Leonean , Many Sierra Leoneans in t Bronx, NY knew he was Sierra Leonean before Giants won the Superbowl.


Subject: Re: CONFIRMED BY UNBEATABLE COCORIOKO : Gibril Wilson Sa.Leonean
From: Lameh Gblah
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Date Posted: 06:38:03 02/09/08 ()
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I told you some few days ago that this guy is a sierra leonean but you never beleived me . I told you that last April when I went to sierra Leone I met him and his sister along campbell street and I never knew him either but his sister Kadi(daram)who I knew introduced him to me told me that he is the fomous Gibril Wilson of The new york Giants, they invited me to a party at the national stadium presidential suite to celebrate his achivements.I was there along with Joseph Tobby of East End Lions Fame and many other celebrities . He was introduced by is brother and his mum also was introduced . I knew his mum Haja Nana 30 of Andrew street, whe n as a small boy selling at the Krootown road market, she use to sell oil and some provision just by Liberty Cinema at Krootown road in front of the market. She told me that Gibril left sierra Leone at the age of 6 and join his brother and sister in the U.S. where he grow up playing college football and then rose to fame . All of us had a lovely time and very nice interaction. If people want me to give them his sister's number (Kadi)in London I would be very please to do so.


Subject: Re: CONFIRMED BY UNBEATABLE COCORIOKO : Gibril Wilson Sa.Leonean
From: TK
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Date Posted: 15:55:47 02/09/08 ()
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So let us have have Kadi'd .number


Subject: Eminent Sierra leonean Jurist heads for the Bay Area
From: M. Alieu Iscandari esq
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Date Posted: 17:13:00 02/08/08 ()
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Eminent Sierra leonean Jurist, Judge Abdul G. Koroma will be visiting the san Francisco Bay Area sometime in April 2007 and is slated to deliver a lecture at the Golden gate University Law School. A dinner in his honor will be held at the Scotts Sea Food Restaurant in Jack London Square in Oakland CAlifornia. Tickets are $100.00 per head. calling all sierra leoneans to be there and patronise an eminent sierra leonean jurist.


Subject: Re: Eminent Sierra leonean Jurist heads for the Bay Area
From: m. Alieu Iscandari esq
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Date Posted: 17:21:26 02/08/08 ()
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Heres the link


Subject: Re: Eminent Sierra leonean Jurist heads for the Bay Area
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
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Date Posted: 06:26:17 02/09/08 ()
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Wow! Wow! I got a prickling sensation running down my whole body - real cold! This fellow countryman is remarkably outstanding. Such should have gone for the offices of the AU and not the selfish and stingy AO Conteh who shamed himself thinking he was shaming Sierra Leone.

Judge Abdul G Koroma, your are an exemplary inspiration - a true role model. If you can do such, so many will now look up to you to believe that they can be that. may God bless you and save you from the detraction and envy of the evil minds.


Subject: Re: Eminent Sierra leonean Jurist heads for the Bay Area
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 18:25:41 02/08/08 ()
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WOW!
Can you imagine a man of such intelectual distinction?
I am always proud to see Sierra Leoneans excel in this magnitude.
Wow.
What is his misson to the Bay Area and where specifically?
Pardon me, we are talking about California Bay area(smile)but that is true.
We have highly educated brothers and sisters from Sierra Leone that have contributed immensely to world civilization and I am very proud of them.
I am writing from the University of Maryland, where we have plenty of them, and where many have left indellible mark on the progrss of civilization as Lecturers. Didn't Dr. Abdul Karim Conteh Lecture at the University of Maryland?
Many have made their contribution towards the human civilization what can have done or can you do should always be fresh on our minds. Where will I be in the History of World Civilization is a very good question to remember. Will History recognize me in the place of Judas, Adolf Hitler or Judge Abdul G. Koroma who has contributed worthily towards human civilization as enumerated in his resume. I would prefer the latter. God bless his heart. These gatherings are places that should serve as preparation grounds to make such contributions; for those who have such thoughts; for others, well you see what they are engaged in.
Be encouraged that you can be the best if you put your mind to it by not hatting those who have such a dream but dreaming with them.
Bravo Judge Abdul G. Koroma may God give we the younger ones the brain and courage to emulate examples ofpeople of your calibre who see the need to salvage the world from a humanitarian perspective rather than from selfish perspective.


Subject: Re: Eminent Sierra leonean Jurist heads for the Bay Area
From: Fen Plaba!
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Date Posted: 18:58:16 02/08/08 ()
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I have never heard about Judge Abdul G. Koroma before and probably wouldn't have had it not been for the entropic ferment of Cocorioko. Good to see our luminaries capelighting Western shores.
By the way our judges have absolutely fantastic fashion sense! That silk throatkerchief the good judge is wearing is gonna make the gender benders in the Bay Area seductively limp their wrist and say "Heeeeey!"


Subject: Cocotioko Lie Lie...?
From: Investigator
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Date Posted: 16:12:41 02/08/08 ()
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You claim that G. Wilson was born in Sierra leone how far is that from the truth: http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/493121
May be you wanted to say his Great Great grand Parent came from Sierra Leone...but as usual you always twist the fact..


Subject: Re: Cocotioko Lie Lie...?
From: KABS KANU
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Date Posted: 17:37:54 02/08/08 ()
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Read all the inputs of others in the debate below.Even Mr.Shamsu Deen-Cole, a New Jersey activist, said that Gerald is a Sierra Leonean. Instead of opening your mouth here calling us names , why not read all the inputs ? I don't know why some of us just cannot ask questions without labelling people. YOU HAVE A MOUTH AS WELL AS EARS AND EYES. PLEASE USE ALL OF THEM WELL.


Subject: Re: Cocotioko Lie Lie...?
From: Gerald Cole
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Date Posted: 23:43:10 02/08/08 ()
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Cocorioko has proved me right, I was living in the Bronx at Ogden Ave, when Gibril Wilson came to the state, and he was a little boy. The whole Sierra Leonean crew were living in that neighborhood, if I could name a few, little John, Sentu Johnson, big boy, John Roberts and Gibril’s brothers. We are planning to welcome him in the Maryland area with a victory party.


Subject: Re: Cocotioko Lie Lie...?
From: POLITICAL
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Date Posted: 22:44:07 02/08/08 ()
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I was one of those who have doubt about this, but I insisted that until I got proof, I will go by what ESPN and other sport internet sites state. Kabs said he has proof and I will be happy and believe. His article explains convincingly, but yet to give a tangible proof. I will be happy if a Sierra Leonean excels. That is a big pride for Sierra Leone, but I don't want to put my country into a laughing nation.
KABS, thanks for the info nd I am looking forward for the proof.


Subject: Re: Cocotioko Lie Lie...?
From: KABS KANU
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Date Posted: 17:41:10 02/08/08 ()
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I noticed that the moderator has cut the thread for archiving. Go to the archives and read what relatives of Gibril wrote. If future, get all your facts first before you label people.


Subject: REVISITING FODAY SANKOH AND COMPANY
From: Umpire
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Date Posted: 13:34:17 02/08/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
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Fellas, are you scarred of being long or short sleeved by Foday Sankoh and Company? Or, did you believe the report of his re-dockerection at Kissy Dock Yard? Or, is it that you fear the fierce Oxfordian rhetoric of the good Docta? Accordingly, I renew the thematic.


Subject: ON THE USE AND ABUSE OF HISTORY
From: Umpire
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Date Posted: 13:04:30 02/08/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
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What is the theoretical point of this debate about the "settlers" and "provincials?" The short answer is that it is pointless. Similar to metaphysics, it is a trick to implement practical policies. A few points about the task of the historical reconstruction of past human reality:

1. A sharp distinction needs to be made between historiography (the presentation of historical research) and historical research.

2. Historical research NEVER issues in unchallengeable hypotheses, because any and all historical hypotheses are subject to future falsification. Accordingly and paradoxically, no historical fact can be established without the explicit caveat, "true for now ONLY."

Given these rather elementary heuristics of the historical reconstruction of past human reality, it is arguable that the debate about "settlers" and "provincials" is pointless. It is evident that no original source can answer the following question: who were the original people of Sierra Leone? Hence, any and all historical postulates are not really concerned about bonedry historical propositions, but are strategy attempts concerned with advancing and implementing socio-economic policies in the Living Present realities of Sierra Leone. Philosophers use the same gimmick in their metaphysical constructions. And lawyers do the same in their manipulation of precedents.

3. Accordingly, the debate is only apparently about the past. It is evidently pointless to mention the many patently false historical statements that have been asserted in this theoretically barren debate. One will do. Alcole, citing Fyle, asserts that: "The Creoles were traders and an elite class in Freetown and in Colonial Sierra Leone during the 19th century." Unarguably, Fyle's historical statement is FALSE. Were ALL Creoles traders? Moreover, Fyle knows all too well that Creoles were divided into a high class, middle class, and a pautopauto class. In brief, Fyle's historical conjecture is effectively refuted by sociological facts. Of course, Ronaldino's wild averment that "100% of Creoles are literate", abstracting from difficulties hanging over the contstrual of "literate", as Contri astutely observed is, is similar to Fyle's statement: sparkingly false. I personally know many illiterate Creoles, construing "literate" here as ability to understand, speak, and write the language of our British masters, albeit "former."

4. Ominously, given that Creoles constitute less than 5 per cent of the population of Sierra Leone, it is quite clear that only 'resettled' Creoles, i.e. those in the West, would urge, under the intellectual dishonest ruse of historical reconstruction, a war to assert "Creoledom." The ensuing decimation would make Rwanda Disney. Sober and responsible Creoles in Freetown would not DARE, guided by common sense and the constraints inherent in the new dispensation of societal power, make claims of 'superiority' in the conditions of contemporary Sierra Leone; leave that to their sons and daughters in the West.

5. Conclusion: get over it. The influence of Creoles in Freetown, in particular, and in Sierra Leone in general is, at best, deminimis. And it is this foreseeable dimunition of influence that fuels the fires of Creole historical research: such a use of history is clearly an abuse of history. Stop!


Subject: Re: ON THE USE AND ABUSE OF HISTORY
From: alcole
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Date Posted: 15:32:25 02/08/08 ()
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Your views are welcome, would that change history? Can’t tell, am just trying to see if we can come up with Sierra Leone history month for the benefit of our children. Thanks for analyzing the Creole history. I will love you do the same with the mende history next week.
Think positive
God Bless!!!!


Subject: Re: ON THE USE AND ABUSE OF HISTORY
From: Umpire
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Date Posted: 15:49:49 02/08/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
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My views were not intended to change "history," rather they were meant to elucidate the great distinction between "interpretation" and "application." What history is obviously depends on the power structure in a society. In brief, even the subject matter of history is ideologically contestable.

Moreover, the analysis of how change is effected in the living present (you can change your views about the past, but once you posit a historical fact or a concatenation of the same, they are subjectively immutable) is one of the most difficult intellectual problem, and it transcends all theoretical, practical and prudential disciplines. Accordingly, if I am unable to assuredly posit a theory of mundane, everyday, plain vanilla change---genetically (pertaining to me as a concrete human personality) or generatively (pertaining to intersubjective relatively valid structures of a group)---it would be unreasonable, I should think, to expect, even naively, my ideas to change history.


Subject: Re: ON THE USE AND ABUSE OF HISTORY
From: alcole
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Date Posted: 16:04:17 02/08/08 ()
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OK, thanks am cutting out of this site. Waste of time for me.


Subject: Re: ON THE USE AND ABUSE OF HISTORY
From: Umpire
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Date Posted: 18:49:52 02/08/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
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Good riddance! Sing up with a sound bite site. Can't stand the heat in the kitchen, wise to sprint out.


Subject: Re: ON THE USE AND ABUSE OF HISTORY
From: Contri
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Date Posted: 13:10:18 02/08/08 ()
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Man you can really analyse! Truly, you are a brilliant man, very observant and you know your cues.Have you tried publishing as an interest? Thanks for the clarity!


Subject: Re: ON THE USE AND ABUSE OF HISTORY
From: Umpire
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Date Posted: 13:37:31 02/08/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
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Glory to God!


Subject: Re: ON THE USE AND ABUSE OF HISTORY
From: Mahatma
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Date Posted: 13:14:04 02/08/08 ()
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I must commend as well - great improvement. I know he can do it - he is just stubborn. It is working. Thank the Sangha.


Subject: Re: ON THE USE AND ABUSE OF HISTORY
From: Umpire
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Date Posted: 13:41:10 02/08/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
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Glory to God!


Subject: Re: ON THE USE AND ABUSE OF HISTORY
From: Mahatma
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Date Posted: 13:48:30 02/08/08 ()
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Thank God!


Subject: Re: ON THE USE AND ABUSE OF HISTORY
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 14:31:53 02/08/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
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I will ignore you from now on: should you attempt to reply to any of MY postings with advertizements for a religious cult, I shall personally call Kabs, demanding that you be banned, under the Rules. Every reader can see your sick trick: there is a serious issue on the table, and you dare to sprint, where angels tiptoe. It is up to the Moderator: he can permit this salient thematic to be elaborated and criticized or ALLOW YOU TO POST PERSONAL ATTACKS. Accordingly, I hereby invite the Moderator to INTERVENE NOW, TO PREVENT AN ENCORE that is well known to him. Is he going to allow you to turn this esteemed paper into a yellow rag or not? THAT IS THE QUESTION FOR kABS AND FM. I could have been billed clients $500 an hour for the time it took me to compose and post the piece. Yet, sensing the danger in the postings thematized by my posting, I gave up the money, for love of country. It's up to you Kabs and FM.


Subject: Re: ON THE USE AND ABUSE OF HISTORY
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 17:14:11 02/08/08 ()
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Greetings ladies and gentlemen. In my effort to respond to Umpire, let me take this opportunity to register my apologies to members who might have responded during our last debate but did not hear from me. I have been away from this forum since the last time I posted. I have checked the archive to see if the messages were archived but it is apparent that no messages have been saved in the archive for the year 2008.
Continuing my response, let me make it known that I agree with you Umpire, as cordiality acquiescence that the debate of Settlers and Provincial is pointless. This is so specifically, where the aim is not geared towards ascertaining facts about the debated culture towards the promotion of the land we all love, Sierra Leone. Pointless in my view because if no efforts are made to know the sociological and philosophy of cultures, no effort is made to understanding underlying principles, which will dampen our quest to forging ahead, harmoniously, as a culture.
Immanuel Kant, a Philosopher whom in an effort to define Enlightenment in the essay "Answering the Question: What is Enlightenment?" He defined Enlightenment as an age shaped by the motto, "Dare to know;" that involved thinking autonomously free from the dictates of external authority. He stated that “All the preparations of reason, therefore, in what may be called pure philosophy, are in reality directed to those three problems only [God, the soul, and freedom]. However, these three elements in themselves still hold independent, proportional, objective weight individually. Moreover, in a collective relational context; namely, to know what ought to be done: if the will is free, if there is a God, and if there is a future world. As this concerns our actions with reference to the highest aims of life, we see that the ultimate intention of nature in her wise provision was really, in the constitution of our reason, directed to moral interests only."
Reading from your effort to address Fyle’s narration of the Creole history, I am impelled to reason with the following essay “The Concept of Encounter of Cultures in the Philosophy of History: Problems and Solutions by
Hamlet A. Gevorkian
(Institute of Philosophy and Law of the Armenian National Academy of Sciences.”) Here he stated,

“Any reflection upon "other", "alien" culture is possible always from the perspective of a definite culture: the other culture is seen as refracted through the prism of our culture, of our world-perception, world-construction, world-understanding. In this sense the reflection upon other culture is subjective, as if prejudiced and slanted. The awareness of this situation causes attempts to find out how is it possible to overcome this subjectivity of the reflection upon other culture and reach objective knowledge of it, so that the reconstruction of it would be adequate. Thus, here too the Kantian question arises: is objective knowledge possible (in the sense of independence from our cognitive approaches and operations, patterns of thought which are shaped by and "molded" in our culture), and if yes, how? In our case, as in the whole field of the humanities, the situation is complicated, and the question is re-formulated as the following: how objective knowledge of historical and cultural phenomena is possible, taking into account that they are (a) essentially individual - unique, inimitable and transient and (b) get their meaning and become conceivable only in the wholeness of historical and cultural integrities, in which they are incorporated?”
In which case, we might not know for sure what is fact, fiction or false without any quotation from Fyle, whereby, his work is presented to us vabatim for our reflection. Therefore, any direction we attempt to focus our stance at this point, will be subjective rather than objective for the lack of evidential report of writing. Readers who are not conversant with Fyle’s historical narration on the subject discussed would be left in limbo, when in an effort to ascertain facts since you rendered regrettably, none, is pursued. Could your presentation of his effort in presenting the creoles in a grandiose sociological spectrum, a manure of conveyance in a contextual misrepresentative masquerade? Just a question.
Viewing from the word culture in the perception of schools-of-thoughts and disciplines especially “Anthropologists who use the term "culture" to refer to the universal human capacity to classify, codify and communicate their experiences symbolically, Primatologists who have identified aspects of culture among humankind's closest relatives in the animal kingdom,” I would agree that our focus be on finding out the authentic history of the cultures (culture) discussed so that we can bring the best out of our culture from these findings for the betterment of the Sierra Leonean culture and the World Culture since History will always lead the origins of the named cultures to single, un-agreed origin that we dare not to know.
By and large, I am impressed that you resurfaced this discuss for Enlightenment purposes. We may never know the truth if we do not listen and learn. We shall listen and learn if the facts are not presented objectively. Dare to know?
Humbly presented:
Bambay Lansana Kamara, Sanyoya.
Thank you!


Subject: Re: ON THE USE AND ABUSE OF HISTORY
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 18:06:19 02/08/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
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Message:
I personally commend you on your mastery of the difficult PROBLEMS connected with the human condition. It appears to me that most of the discourse on culture, tribalism and, particularly, politics in Sierra Leone assumes that there are easily accessible solutions to first, thorny theoretical problems. Having made this naive assumption, any and all practical proposals to solve practical problems conditioned by specific features inscribed by our historical heritage are either uncritically (without analysis and argument) dismissed or, worse, attributed to manipulative, self-serving motives, usually tied to tribalism.

Critiques of the current government may serve as Exhibit 1. One negative critique will clarify the point: the thunderous critique that the government is a nothern government. If I had made such a critical judgment, my obligation would be to fairly present and refute counter-arguments. On the contrary: sound bites are the norm. The northernization argument may be sound, but it has not been presented. And for good reason: Is Margai a northerner? And the Vice-President, a northerner too? If the government in parliament and in the executive is not northern a corps perdue, then the northernization critique is factually and fatally flawed. But, I'll let this fly, for I am not a politician, except to state that a colleague in the law, John Musa, Esq. serves as a spokesperson for the President. The last time I checked, John hails not from Sanda, but Kono.

The objects of the human sciences, contrary to naive public opinion, are more complicated than those of the objects of the objects and methods of the formal sciences and the arche formal-ontologogical science of physics. In brief, theoretical physics is easier than historical research. The implications buggle the mind.

Finally, I am aware of the naive, politically juvenile movement of "Creoledom." As I mentioned, this is a dangerous syndrome. If it goes unchecked, the eggheads propagating the same will have only themselves to blame if it ends up inflaming the passions of demagoges among the 'provicials.' How many battalions do these epigones of Creoledom control? Hence, my de-tribalization hypothesis. I know sound counter-arguments against my hypothesis, and when I see one I'll respond.

Finally, I note that your piece demonstrates that we have don't have to be bookish to make sense. Nar sense make book, according to Pa. Stevens, abstracting, of course, from how the Pa applied this maxim.


Subject: Re: ON THE USE AND ABUSE OF HISTORY
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 18:57:31 02/08/08 ()
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Message:
Umpire thank you for your kind words. I particularly agree with the statement that “It appears to me that most of the discourse on culture, tribalism and, particularly, politics in Sierra Leone assumes that there are easily accessible solutions to first, thorny theoretical problems. Having made this naive assumption, any and all practical proposals to solve practical problems conditioned by specific features inscribed by our historical heritage are either uncritically (without analysis and argument) dismissed or, worse, attributed to manipulative, self-serving motives, usually tied to tribalism.”
In submission, let me emphasise that the lack of answers or rather the vague or the lack of knowledge and the willingness to make research, reflection on certain topics gives rise to disqualifying possible solutions or admittance of availing answers. As such most things,ideas and or concepts are attributed to heresy that has entrenched a Moral pluralistic for a sadistic moral relativistic groupings that is now a culture within our culture. But can this attitude be traced to ancestral origins or is it a new phenomina?
Take myths such as cutting hair at night, Yellow Woman, visiting parents’ graveyard a second time, to name a few. These are unscientific beliefs that have existed within cultures that have caused problems in our communities between the ones who wish to break-away and those who wish to maintain such beliefs. Ten chances to one, most of these beliefs are meant to preserve selfish and egocentric gratifications. This is no different from the effort to allude culture, tribalism and, particularly, politics in Sierra Leone with the assumtion that there are easily accessible solutions to first, thorny theoretical problems. Whereby, historical heritage are either uncritically (without analysis and argument) dismissed or, worse, attributed to manipulative, self-serving motives, usually tied to tribalism. This is so because the art of discussing issues to unearth the truth is self-implecating or rather deserving of our hidden agenda or selfish pursuits. Mende man will attribute the political activities of groups in Sierra Leone to tribalism because it is not serving their egocentric and or selfish agenda. The Temene man will assert tribalism to political practices of Mende group to Tribalism because their execersie of power does not sit well with their igocentric and or selfish desires. A patriot’s efforts to help savage the problems of his or her people is misconstrued to be political intent because the contenders see such efforts to deviate from their egocentric and self-serving agenda or because such people can conceptualize further than the above-mentioned moral pluralistic for sadistic moral relativist grouping. There therefore, there has existed schools-of-thoughts that will hardly meet through dialogue.
I have to run but thank you for your response.


Subject: Re: ON THE USE AND ABUSE OF HISTORY
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 19:16:10 02/08/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
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Message:
Thanks for your response. I suspect I have a lot to learn from you. But right now, I'm bombed out from fishing for the mighty dollar in the jungle of business. Fen Plaba knows where I will be after this posting; he knows about the imperative of maintaining a fine balance between cerebral exertion and muscle exertion. Have a good night!


Subject: Alpha Saidu Bangura is Ban for good
From: Foday Mansaray,Chairman of the Board
To: All
Date Posted: 12:07:30 02/08/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-172-251-180.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net at 71.172.251.180

Message:
May God bless the good Rev.for taking his time to explain everything that transpired between himself and Alpha Saidu. I am confident that Alpha Saidu should not be given another opportunity to participate in this forum. He has not only denied everything that he said, but trump up more outrageous lies to create new unnecessary problems.

The situation with my mother is clear. I requested both Muslim Jamaat to write an article and send it to me. I asked for pictures and stories many many times and it was not forth-coming.
Cocorioko does not write article for people. People write their articles and send them to us for publication. Call Alhaji Alieru Bakarr how many times he promised to send me pictures and stories from Hajj. Please don't disseminate information that is not true.

Secondly have as much right as me to send congratulatory message your Mother. Moreover, the message represents my family AND the Muslim community of New Jersey, CONGRATULATING all those who successfully completed there Hajj. Why should you fuss about this, is beyond my comprehension.

Moreover, you also indicated during our conversation, that you went to School of Journalism with Philip Neville. I do not want to go there or talk about that. What is in questioned here is your malicious attacked on kabbs and you deceitfulness to create confusion among good, honorable and patriotic people who just want to see nothing, but Sierra Leone moving forward.

Rev. Kabbs, Moderator and Forum Police, Alpha Saidu must be ban for good. Giving him another chance is a great dis-service to this forum and the good people like Lawyer Alieu Iscandri who have great intention for progress and democracy. In my opinion, he needs to go somewhere else and create anarchy.
My apology to Rev. for even listening to you and remember this Alpha saidu, you can run but cannot hide.
You know what I am talking about.



Subject: Re: Alpha Saidu Bangura is Ban for good
From: man pikin
To: All
Date Posted: 20:15:23 02/08/08 ()
Email Address: man_pikin@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-96-240-15-68.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net at 96.240.15.68

Message:
Foday, did Alpha Saidu Bangura said that he went to Journalism school with Phillip Neville? This is a black lie.Alpha Saidu is actively doing his watchman job here in Maryland. He is always like this, since our days at the Prince of Wales. Big mouth.


Subject: Re: Alpha Saidu Bangura is Ban for good
From: FODAY MANSARAY
To: All
Date Posted: 02:03:59 02/09/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host-24-225-160-74.patmedia.net at 24.225.160.74

Message:
Yes, he said he sat in the same classroom with Phlip Neville studying Journalism.For all it is worth, he claimed to be a season Journalist,"I quote".


Subject: Re: Alpha Saidu Bangura is Ban for good
From: man pikin
To: All
Date Posted: 20:15:22 02/08/08 ()
Email Address: man_pikin@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-96-240-15-68.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net at 96.240.15.68

Message:
Foday, did Alpha Saidu Bangura said that he went to Journalism school with Phillip Neville? This is a black lie.Alpha Saidu is actively doing his watchman job here in Maryland. He is always like this, since our days at the Prince of Wales. Big mouth.


Subject: Re: Alpha Saidu Bangura is Ban for good
From: man pikin
To: All
Date Posted: 04:36:07 02/09/08 ()
Email Address: man_pikin@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-96-240-15-68.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net at 96.240.15.68

Message:
This Alpha Saidu is a man among men. You can't believe that he told a poor woman that he is bereaved and this poor woman sympathised with him by sending some money for him. After a month again, he called this woman and started crying that he have lost his neice. Again, this woman sent some money for him. Later, it was proved that he was never bereaved. I really dont know where to put this fellow. I think he need to be in one of the remote villages in Sierra Leone. People came to this country to improve themselves, but not this fellow. Journalism my foot.


Subject: Re: Alpha Saidu Bangura is Ban for good
From: Marie Kay
To: All
Date Posted: 21:30:48 02/09/08 ()
Email Address: ma2002@yahoo.com
Entered From: ip68-8-136-217.sd.sd.cox.net at 68.8.136.217

Message:
Man pikin,
I have been following your comments with regards to this poor gentleman. For goodness sake why cant you leave Saidu alone. You dont know how much people know about you if you are real. Stop personal attacks. If that woman had the courage to tell you things about Saidu, it is not for you to use it to attack him in a forum like this. It is not even fair to the woman who told you her secret. Will you please keep quiet a bit over that issue? This is the second time you are refering to this issue.
I think you are idle and you lack issues to talk about. Leave Saidu alone. I dont know him but he has never made any response to your comments. That shows maturity.
Marie


Subject: Re: Alpha Saidu Bangura is Ban for good
From: man pikin
To: All
Date Posted: 06:08:58 02/10/08 ()
Email Address: man_pikin@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-96-240-15-68.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net at 96.240.15.68

Message:
Marie if this is your real name, is your name Alpha Saidu or are you his defence lawyer? This is not a personal attack. The woman in question is my relative and I need to bring it to the notice of other people to know more about your client, Alpha Saidu. Your client knows that it is a fact, that is why he is not responding. It is not a question of MATURITY. Maturity my foot, after telling lies and my poor cousin sent him money. Madam defence lawyer, you call it Maturity, give me a break. Why can't you tell your client that he did a bad thing?


Subject: Re: Alpha Saidu Bangura is Ban for good
From: TOFFIE BANGURA
To: All
Date Posted: 11:32:35 02/10/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
BETTER CHECK WITH YOUR SISTER BECAUSE SAIDU MAY HAVE USED HER MONEY AGAINST HER. HE IS VERY MUCH INTO JUJU WITH HIS FAMILY


Subject: Re: Alpha Saidu Bangura is Ban for good
From: FORREST GUMP
To: All
Date Posted: 06:21:54 02/09/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host81-153-198-218.range81-153.btcentralplus.com at 81.153.198.218

Message:
I thought this Forum has a policy of not attacking someone who does not contribute to this Forum I might be wrong can any one enlighten me on this
FORREST


Subject: Re: Alpha Saidu Bangura is Ban for good
From: man pikin
To: All
Date Posted: 18:36:56 02/09/08 ()
Email Address: man_pikin@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-96-240-15-68.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net at 96.240.15.68

Message:
Forrest, I dont understand what you mean. What Saidu did to this poor woman is not a story, but a reality. The woman is my relative. This is not a personal attack.


Subject: Re: Alpha Saidu Bangura is Ban for good
From: man pikin
To: All
Date Posted: 18:36:53 02/09/08 ()
Email Address: man_pikin@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-96-240-15-68.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net at 96.240.15.68

Message:
Forrest, I dont understand what you mean. What Saidu did to this poor woman is not a story, but a reality. The woman is my relative. This is not a personal attack.


Subject: Re: Alpha Saidu Bangura is Ban for good
From: DOG PEKIN
To: All
Date Posted: 20:20:55 02/08/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198

Message:
HE WENT TO A SIX MONTH SEMINAR ON JOURNALISM HELD AT FBC AND HE DID NOT FINISH THE COURSE. HE WAS KICKED OUT. THE SOB IS NOT I REPEAT NOT A JOURNALIST.

ON THE CONTRARY HE IS A CHARLATTAN WHO CLAIMS HE IS OF GOD YET HE DOES SATANIC THINGS LIKE USING JUJU AND WITHTHE SLIGHTEST OPPORTUNITY WEARS DEVIL CLOTHES AT PARTIES.

NAR SAIDU DAE BOT ALL DEM DEBUL WAE DEM KIN PULL NAR PARTY NAR EAST COAST. LEH EE JES CLEAROUT BEFOE WE YA


Subject: A contribution to your Black History Month
From: Ronaldino
To: All
Date Posted: 11:16:13 02/08/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 82-44-17-83.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.44.17.83

Message:
List of 70 African immigrants who claimed return passage from Jamaica to Sierra Leone on board the Clarendon. Jamaica, 21 August 1861.
Catalogue reference: CO 137/356/25 folio 189. Crown Copyright.

Are any of your great great Grand Parents on this boat to Freetown
From the British Archives


Transcr1pt:
List of African Immigrants, embarked from the Port of
---------- Kingston, Jamaica, for Seirra Leone. -----------

No. ---- Names ----
Male
Female
Date of
Embarkation
- Remarks -
12th August 1861
1
James Cole
2
John Thomas
1



3
Sally Davis

1


4
Jonas Thomas
1



5
Lucy Thomas

1


6
Nancy George

1


7
David Jones
1



8
Hannah Thomas

1


9
William Lambert
1



10
William Campbell
1



11
Charlotte Campbell

1


12
Ha[ ]ey Williams

1


13
John Davis
1



14
Lucy Williams

1


15
John Smith
1



16
William Thompson
1



17
James Campbell
1



18
Henry Harding
1



19
Rosy Harding

1


20
Hannah Bright

1


21
Solomon Bright
1



22
James Brown
1



23
John Harding
1



24
John Cole
1



25
James Bull
1



26
James Coker
1



27
Charlotte Rogers (with an Infant)

1


28
Thomas Williams
1



29
Eliza Williams

1


30
Lucy McCawley

1


31
James Johnson
1



32
Nancy Ellis

1


33
Fanny George

1


34
Francis Parker
1



35
William Thomas
1



36
Elizabeth Johnson

1


37
Henry Palmer
1



38
Lucy Coker

1


39
Samuel Pratt
1



40
Nelly Cheers

1


41
Jara
1



42
Sophia Williams

1


43
John Thomas
1



44
Henry Davis
1










Carried over
26
18









Subject: Re: A contribution to your Black History Month
From: alcole
To: All
Date Posted: 12:05:08 02/09/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-76-100-113-63.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 76.100.113.63

Message:
Thanks Ron for the help, I have posted the site to my relatives and friends living in England, Sierra Leone and Guyana. I was able to prove my settlers background. My Great Great grandfather and mother on my mother side were on that boat, Solomon and Hannah Bright. It was a great help to one of my friend who is finishing her PHD at Columbia University in New York. People like you are needed in this forum. Please email me anything that could contribute to our Sierra Leone history. olushola364@msn.com


Subject: Re: A contribution to your Black History Month
From: Ronaldino
To: All
Date Posted: 15:37:22 02/09/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 82-44-17-83.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.44.17.83

Message:
My grand mother used to tell me of one of her aunts she could never understand when she spoke. When I had a word with one of uncles he said that lady was Barbadian speaking in West indian twang


Subject: Re: A contribution to your Black History Month
From: alcole
To: All
Date Posted: 11:57:22 02/08/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: uslec-66-43-153-180.cust.uslec.net at 66.43.153.180

Message:
Trust me my mother's maiden name was Hannah Bright, my father told me his mother was was from São Tomé and Príncipe.


Subject: Re: A contribution to your Black History Month
From: Contri
To: All
Date Posted: 12:08:31 02/08/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Did you know they speak the same krio we speak in sao tome et principe? My uncles wife is from there - they now live in spain.


Subject: Re: A contribution to your Black History Month
From: alcole
To: All
Date Posted: 12:28:04 02/08/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
This is why we should use this site to share our history, Sierra Leone population is made up different ethnics groups .The creole is a mixture of all ethnics groups from all over Africa, farnadndo po, sae tome, Equitorial guniea, Nigeria, Ghana and some freed slaves. The Creole background is richer than the Liberian American background. Whiles the Temenes migrated from the North into what is now Sierra Leone in the 14th and early 15th century, seeking access to new trade that was developing along the Atlantic coast. It is time to change, no one tribe is better than any other tribe in Sierra Leone.


Subject: Re: A contribution to your Black History Month
From: Ronaldino
To: All
Date Posted: 11:19:01 02/08/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 82-44-17-83.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.44.17.83

Message:
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/caribbeanhistory/popups/movement-of-people/CO137_356_25.htm


Subject: Re: A contribution to your Black History Month
From: alcole
To: All
Date Posted: 12:09:53 02/08/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: uslec-66-43-153-180.cust.uslec.net at 66.43.153.180

Message:
This is good, where did you get it from? This is why we should not take this forum site as a place for negative discussion site. We should all share our history on this site.


Subject: Re: Is It True? THE DANGERS OF HAVING AN ENSLAVED MIND
From: BRA ENVIABLE
To: All
Date Posted: 11:01:04 02/08/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
It can be very pitiful when the victims of slavery and colonial rule express admiration for the oppressor by indicating that the plantation master was quite kind to one of his slaves or colonized subjects. In the eyes of the slave master, the so-called PROTECTORATE people and CREOLES were nothing but a bunch of savages fit only for Western domination. Any African who looks back at that history with nostalgic eyes is a slave at heart. We are supposed to rue, not admire, the European tagging that divided us into PROTECTORATE and CREOLE people. Whereas black Americans continue to lament being rooted out of Africa through slavery, some repatriated Africans are actually longing for that evil phase of history by being proud of the subhuman status to which the European reduced them. The protectorate people were European subjects, the Creoles repatriated Africans from that act of inhumanity called slavery. Why would any conscious Creole take emotional solace in that history by making disparaging comments about Africans once tagged "protectorate people?".

Slavery may be over, but many black minds are yet to be disburdened. Many victims of European history are yet to be liberated from the haunting echoes of slavery and colonial rule. Give me a break with this slavish mentality that admires the history of rape, torture, and total bastardization of the black race. I will rather be a Sierra Leonean than boast with the colonial master's vestigial chains of oppression. Those giving currency to the CREOLE vs PROTECTORATE divide are actually replaying the sad drama between "House Niggers" and their brothers in victimhood, the "Field Niggers." Neither one of these Africans should taunt the other. The reason? House Niggers may have been spared the drudge on the plantation, but the indignity of being raped and owned as domestic property, made them no better than the toiling Field Niggers. Those who get gratification from being the slave master's chosen servants are sadly longing for slavery all over again. Creoles and protectorate people should argue over who used to be the colonial master's favorite possession? I am too properly educated to chain myself with that brand of self-enslavement!


Subject: Re: Is It True? THE DANGERS OF HAVING AN ENSLAVED MIND
From: Ronaldino
To: All
Date Posted: 11:34:49 02/08/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 82-44-17-83.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.44.17.83

Message:
Bravo!! We are not different!! Thus education is the key. I would hope that my forefathers were the ones whom had enough of the plantations. And even though they had been set free had the dying urgue to go back to Africa at all costs.
The setting up of Bo School and others to give proper education( as opposed to 'Bantu education') fought for by the Creoles was an unselfish move. The creoles also made it a point that their wards were educated to a high standard.
It is a pity that the educational standards have sank so low in the country.


Subject: Re: Is It True? THE DANGERS OF HAVING AN ENSLAVED MIND
From: nico
To: All
Date Posted: 15:32:59 02/08/08 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
Entered From: 82-45-226-138.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.45.226.138

Message:
"The setting up of Bo School and others to give proper education( as opposed to 'Bantu education') fought for by the Creoles was an unselfish move. The creoles also made it a point that their wards were educated to a high standard."

The Creoles had no influence in setting up the Bo School, they were not happy about it because the British colonial masters had a clear idea who to hand over the country's leadership when they left.

So the extablishment of the Bo school, was specifically to train the sons of Chiefs to take leadership. There was no doubt that the creoles had education and occupied almost all the state funtionaries ie civil service, judiciary etc. Because of their western affluence which they acquired via slavery, they were arrogant to the colonial administrors and thought that they were equal with them.


Subject: Re: Is It True? THE DANGERS OF HAVING AN ENSLAVED MIND
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 20:24:48 02/08/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
thought that they were equal with them.

Speak from one side of the mouth please. Were the creoles or for that matter any of humanity represented in siera leone UNEQUAL TO THE BRITISH?

Now I am really ROTFLMMFAO


Subject: Re: Is It True? THE DANGERS OF HAVING AN ENSLAVED MIND
From: KLA
To: All
Date Posted: 13:05:05 02/09/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 164.82.85.3

Message:
The wannabe Congolese Guitarist missed the chords on this
piece.

FOO FOO GAINS fohl!!

tstm


Subject: Re: Is It True? THE DANGERS OF HAVING AN ENSLAVED MIND
From: Ronaldino
To: All
Date Posted: 18:01:30 02/08/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 82-44-17-83.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.44.17.83

Message:
Nico, I think you have miss read me. The Creoles fought /debated in the colonial council in Freetown for a higher standard of education to be implemented up country. It is a known fact that the British wanted to have a standard of education fit for menial jobs only. It was Bankole Bright and others that stood up and demanded a higher standard.
I have tried to get access to transcr1pts around that time but to no avail. I have been told that the British library at Kings Cross should hold some.


Subject: FREETWON WAS PART OF KQUOJA KINGDOM
From: Contri
To: All
Date Posted: 10:50:04 02/08/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Now pronounced as Koya owned Freetown before the Europeans came. The mane invasion saw the disintegration of this once powerful kingdom ruled by the Sapes. The mane invasion's ambition for expamnsion saw increasing warfare and slavwe trading that first brought the black moors to Upper Guinea Coast, now Sierra leone.

The Sapes are now extinct and have been absorbed to become temne. King Niame bana (as pronounced by the early europeans meaning 'The Big name) conquered the Sapes. He lease freetown (the coastal parts) to the british who in return gave a scholarship to his son to study in England. he later died and the King was distraught. He wanted the land back but was betrayed by trusted clansmen - Gumbu-Smart and others - he died unable to resolved the land dispute. My great grandfather tried to open the case but did not survive the wait. Rokiamp has a long history. To this day even the queen claims part of Freetown. It had to end during the NPRC era when reoles born in Freetown considered themselves part of the 'Overseas Crowen Territory' to have legal residence in the UK.


Subject: Is it true....
From: Ronaldino
To: All
Date Posted: 09:35:56 02/08/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
That it was the Creoles in the Freetown Council that fought for proper education for the people in the Protectorate.
The Colonial Masters wanted a form of Bantu education which was to get the natives to count up to ten and recite the alphabet. I have been told that it was Bankole Bright and others that fought against this when the BO school was to be formed. Could you imagine where the SLPP boys will be today if it had been otherwise?


Subject: Re: Is it true....
From: Bai Bureh
To: All
Date Posted: 10:20:49 02/08/08 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: dator5678.161.gbgsd.se at 62.88.180.78

Message:
Bankole Bright was a Lokko.


Subject: Re: Is it true....
From: alcole
To: All
Date Posted: 12:39:42 02/08/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: uslec-66-43-153-180.cust.uslec.net at 66.43.153.180

Message:
Bai Bureh, Bankole Bright was from Murray Town. I don't know if he was a lokko or creole. My mother has a family relationship with the Bankole Bright. one of Shaki Stevens' biography stated he was a creole.


Subject: Re: Is it true....
From: KLA
To: All
Date Posted: 15:05:15 02/08/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 164.82.85.3

Message:
"Herbert Bankole-Bright (23 August 1883 - 14 December
1958) was a politician in Sierra Leone.

Born in Okrika, then in Sierra Leone, Bright studied medicine at Edinburgh University before setting up a practice in Freetown"......Wiki

You then must find out where OKIRA IS.!!

Acole, you can always use the WIKI site as a serious research tool. NAH SO FOR CUT CASE.... in this age of the internet.

TSTM



Subject: Re: Is it true....
From: alcole
To: All
Date Posted: 15:45:15 02/08/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Thanks, WIKI site is always misleading, because they had Gibril Wilson place of birth as CA and he was born in Sierra Leone. My views are always from Georgetown University, Library Guyana.


Subject: Re: Is it true....
From: Contri
To: All
Date Posted: 09:54:34 02/08/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: client-86-0-80-223.leed.adsl.virgin.net at 86.0.80.223

Message:
Your story has truth in it but not the whole truth. my great grandfather told me that there was an initial problems with the creales and the contri about jobs and who should be closer to the white man. The white man saw these wranglings and decided to take advantage of the situation. he first tried to con the creoles by refusing to accept them as educated people - was still trying to boss the educated creoles. the creoles could not have it. They decided to seek help from the contri forgetting the problems they've had. The whiteman knew this and went straight to contri and explained the creole plan not to educate the contri - the white man decided to help contri with their own schools and supported by the chiefs - the whiteman establish special schools for the children of the chiefs. Thus a big wedge between the creole and the contri. majority of the creole were selfish - only a few with foresight saw that 'nothing lasts forever - only in unity can a people stand. the catholics did the same - only their kind or you pretend to be their can get scholarships in their institutions.

So revisit your story and make the amendments. thanks for bringing up such an interesting topic.


Subject: February is black history month, next week Mende history
From: alcole
To: All
Date Posted: 09:08:58 02/08/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 69.74.168.162

Message:
History and Background of the Creoles

The Sierra Leone Creole (or Krios) are an ethnic group in Sierra Leone, descendants of various groups of freed slaves from the West Indies, North America and Britain landed in Freetown between 1787 and about 1855 (or possibly as late as 1860). The Krios live primarily in the Western Area of Sierra Leone, particulaly in the capital, Freetown and make up 3.5% of the country's total population. The Creole have been the subject of many social science books.

Like their Americo-Liberian neighbors, Krios are of considerable European ancestry because some of the African American and West Indian settlers were descended from American and European slave owners. Also, because of considerable intermarriage between the Europeans who settled in the colony and the settlers, many Krios have Caucasian ancestry. Alongside the Americo-Liberians, they are the only ethnic group of African American and West Indian descent inside West Africa.

The Krios speak a distinctive creole language, Krio, based on English and African languages. The Krio language is widely spoken throughout Sierra Leone.


The ancestors of the creole include the Black Poor (from England), Black Loyalists (from Nova Scotia), Black Nova Scotians (of African American ancestry) , Maroons (from Jamaica), West Indians (mainly from the Barbadian and Jamaican West India Regiment whose Second and Fourth divisions were disbanded in Sierra Leone in 1819 and numbered around April 1,030), and 38 African Americans who were taken there by Paul Cuffe (the thirty eight black Americans consisted of nine families mainly from Boston. The Elizabeth (Mayflower of Liberia) also left New York Harbor and transported another 86 African Americans to Freetown in 1820). Also in 1829, 85 Barbadian slaves were taken to Freetown, Sierra Leone and were at first convicts, but were later on released and became wealthy people in Freetown, Sierra Leone. These six major groups of freed people of color were known as the 'Settlers'. The Liberated Africans are also the ancestors of some of the Creoles and they provided an influx of new immigrants comprised of mainly Yorubas and Igbos. The 'recaptives' initially did not mix with the 'settlers' and did not intermarry. Various groups of African Americans and West Indians also kept on migrating to Freetown during the 19th century. Some creoles are of European and/or Native American (of which it is mostly Cherokee or Taino) ancestry through their 'Settler heritage'. The Creoles were traders and an elite class in Freetown and in Colonial Sierra Leone during the 19th century. Many creoles were educated abroad, and many also spread Christianity and their lingua franca throughout West Africa.

copy from
The History of Sierra Leone: A Concise Introduction by C. Magbaily Fyle


Subject: Re: February is black history month, next week Mende history
From: Ronaldino
To: All
Date Posted: 09:25:27 02/08/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 82-44-17-83.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.44.17.83

Message:
Do you know that the Creoles are the only tribe in Africa today that are 100% literate?


Subject: Re: February is black history month, next week Mende history
From: Contri
To: All
Date Posted: 09:58:38 02/08/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: client-86-0-80-223.leed.adsl.virgin.net at 86.0.80.223

Message:
What is literacy? I know creoles - do not want to name names - with so much property and wealth - yet uneducated!! Revisit your statement.


Subject: Re: February is black history month, next week Mende history
From: alcole
To: All
Date Posted: 10:44:31 02/08/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: uslec-66-43-153-180.cust.uslec.net at 66.43.153.180

Message:
My black history month is not about creoles, it is about knowing ourselves and please don’t used this as negative, our kids are been born all over the world and they don’t know about our culture. I don’t want anyone to bring this as a tribal conversation. Read and let know about ourselves.
alcole
Georgetown, Guyana


Subject: Re: February is black history month, next week Mende history
From: POLITICAL
To: All
Date Posted: 10:19:09 02/08/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 207.108.136.237

Message:
Yeah, revisit your STATEMENT! Did you hear they say?


Subject: Tejan Cole email address
From: Madingo Man
To: All
Date Posted: 05:06:40 02/08/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 78.151.102.43

Message:
I have an English friend who wants to pass on some serious information to the ACC Commissioner Tejan-Cole. If any body has his email address can you pls make it availabe so that i can pass it on to him. It is for the good of our beloved country Sierra Leone.

Thank you.


Subject: Re: Tejan Cole email address
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 12:52:54 02/08/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198

Message:
I do have his e mail address but I cannot divuldge it in a public forum. Send me an e mail to aiscandari@aol.com and I will forward it to him and copy you.


Subject: Re: Tejan Cole email address
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 11:09:12 02/08/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 165.155.200.85

Message:
I have ATC's personal email address but can't divulge it without his permission. However you may send your info to mammysweh@gmail.com and I will forward it. I don't know the ACC's email address.
Anyway, I will see him next week when he visits.


Subject: Re: Tejan Cole email address
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 09:17:28 02/08/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ns.nucleusns2.com at 12.44.12.126

Message:
If you cant find ACC's email..
I bet if you gave it to tthe good reverend he will publish the story and have the ACC pick it up from there..

If the reverend will not publish because APC is indicted. AWARENESSTIMES BABY.. or NEW PEOPLE will investigate the story..

Your best bet.. if its scalping to SLPP cocorioko..
If its APC tiffman dem.. Awareness times or New people.

One Love, one nation.


Subject: Re: Tejan Cole email address
From: NEW PEOPLE
To: All
Date Posted: 10:24:44 02/08/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 207.108.136.237

Message:
New people my *******. This is the most useless sa lone site I ever see. They don't even have a decent site. All the links are broken and yet they are mouthy? So what's up with you guys? Can't you create a simple decent site before continue hallowing for the SLPP?


Subject: Re: Tejan Cole email address
From: New People Response
To: All
Date Posted: 18:29:24 02/08/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: adsl-76-254-113-217.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net at 76.254.113.217

Message:
Perhaps you need to check the New people web site again.

I think we should have alternative views and opposition and Sierra Leoneans home and abroad must have an opportunity to hear from right across the political spectrum.

This is no advertisement; it is just a bid to give a brother an alternative viewpoint.


Subject: Re: Tejan Cole email address
From: Police
To: All
Date Posted: 07:04:22 02/08/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 83.229.112.2

Message:
Balackmail & revenge????Grow up now.


Subject: A Brotherly advice to Alpha Saidu Bangura
From: KABS KANU
To: All
Date Posted: 04:58:57 02/08/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-dtc-ag14.proxy.aol.com at 205.188.117.142

Message:
Alpha Saidu Bangura,
I am addressing you openly on this forum to advice you to exercise great control when you are angry.There is o doubt in my mind that you are capable of being an excellent gentleman but I believe the problem is when you are mad, you do not control what you say and in the process you say things that are untrue only to deny saying them later. We have to be addressing these issues in public because COCORIOKO and this forum belong to the public, not even to me , who set them up. COCORIOKO is a public utility company, not a KABS KANU UTILITY COMPANY.That is why people even oppose and criticise me on this forum . Remember that COCORIOKO was first called THE PEOPLE'S DAILY NEWS-INQUIRER, before we changed it to COCORIOKO.

Yesterday morning, we had a discussion when you called me .I was lucky to get your call because I was just leaving one class and it was my free period. During the call, I scolded you seriously for something you did to me that I told you was not right. You were surprised because you did not know what you had done. I then took my time to explain to you what I thought you had done to me that was not right.I said that as a christian, it is my duty to tell people when they do something to me that was not right.

I told you that I had a discussion with Foday Mansaray the previous night and he told me that you had called him to complain that you had been banned from the forum. I told Foday that you had called me too but that I did not ban you and that I will investigate who banned you and find out the reasons and will take the appropriate decision , based on the facts. During that decision , Foday said you had made certain representations to him about him with regards to condemnations made of him . I told Foday point blank that I have never discussed COCORIOKO matters with you.The only thing I told you once was that COCORIOKO does not belong to the APC. This came about because you,Alpha Saidu, had been accusing me on this forum, on the AWARENESS FORUM and on the SLPP FORUM that Cocorioko was an APC NEWSPAPER.Your assertions were so persistent and you had made them public and I had to correct you in the interest of my integrity and the paper's credibility.

I do recall our discussion well.You had called me to make angry protests that an article you wrote about the APC Leader , Ernest Koroma , had been removed from COCORIOKO. You wanted to know why because you were expressing your candid opinions to which you were entitled.You then accused me of being biased in favour of the APC . AT THAT TIME, ALEX MANSARAY WAS THE CEO OF COCORIOKO .REMEMBER ? you said you were advising me as a brother. Your advice was exactly this(WORDS TO THIS EFFECT ) : "Boss Kabs, you have established great respect and credibility as a journalist all over the world. Your newspaper, as you can see, is the best source of news about Sierra Leone. Wherever I go, people say very good things about you , but the only problem lately is that people are saying that the paper has become an APC paper . I myself am veey concerned about that because I love the paper and I respect you , but I want to believe what people are saying because you give more coverage to the APC than the SLPP and you ban more people associated with the SLPP from your forum than APC members.I am MUSLIM . When I die I will be the only person in my grave.I will not hesitate to tell you the truth. Boss Kabs, don't blame me for writing in the other forums that Cocorioko is APC . We even hear that there is one member of the APC going around telling people that Cocorioko belongs to him; he decides what goes into Cocorioko --If he does not want any article in Cocorioko it will not be published -and everybody on Cocorioko is working for him. This is very bad for democracy in Sierra Leone and I am very hurt because you, Boss Kabs, has come to be somebody we had all put our trust and confidence in that you are promoting democracy in Sierra Leone. Why should you sell out at this time ? These are my concerns ". WORDS TO THIS EFFECT.

That was when I clarified to you , as the Publisher and Editor-In-Chief , that COCORIOKO was not an APC paper and nobody was on the payroll of any APC member. I said it was not right for anybody to tell you that we were working for him because it was not true. I said that I was promoting Ernest Koroma because I had profound respect and trust in his integrity and commitment , having been his college mate at FBC in the 70s . I said Ernest Koroma presented the best hope for positive change in Sierra Leone.I still believe that and that is why I am behind the man. I know that he will bring lots of positive changes to Sierra Leone if given a chance.He will make mistakes , like any human being , but on the whole he will make a big difference for the better and everybody will be happy with him at the end (As long as he does not listen to bad advisers).

You will admit , for the sake of your God, our God and everybody's God , that the name FODAY MANSARAY never appeared in our discussion,because Foday had never even joined COCORIOKO then. Even you admitted to me today that YOU NEVER TOLD FODAY MANSARAY ANYTHING about his name being ever mentioned .You said Foday had sent you a note,asking you to call him and when you did, he set upon you, attacking you for attacking his mother in the forum when it was published that she had returned from Mecca. You said you told him pointedly that you did it because it was not Foday's mum alone in Somerset,NJ that went to Mecca. You said Aliru Bakarr , a noted member of the Somerset Muslim Jamaat and others also went on the Hajj and that COCORIOKO should have reported about them too and not singled out his mother. You said all your discussions were based on what you thought were not being done right by COCORIOKO. I asked you over and over and over whether you were sure that you made no other misrepresentations to Foday with reference to me. You assured me fully that you did not and we were even supposed to have put Foday on the line today for you to debunk his statements to me. When I came home from school, I was tired and "crashed" and overslept.That was the only reason we did not call Foday.

Alpha Saidu, I have no reason to hate you or keep you out of this forum because I have nothing against you as a human being but as I also told you today, you have to be careful about the things you say and write when you are angry. THE BIBLE clearly warns in the book of JAMES that if any man says he is religious and cannot bridle his tongue, that man's religion is vain. (James 1: 26). Take your time to also read the whole of Chapter 3. I have no reason to doubt your commitment to Allah. I am only advising you to be careful what you say when you are angry.

You have to stop saying things against Allieu Iscandari that are not right. You can criticize his views but stop attacking his family and also stop making personal attacks on him.

You have to stop writing things that are not true.Do not pass on to people what others did not tell you about them. This brings conflicts in the society. I can see that at times you don't mean to do it but it happens because you don't control yourself when you get angry.

You have to control what you say because these things do come to haunt you back. Say only something you can defend in the future.

After our discussion today,when you denied ever misrepresenting my name to Foday, I asked FORUM POLICE to free the IP of the computer you said other Sierra Leoneans use. Since you denied using the moniker that was banned, I decided to give you a second chance. That was at 10 am . Well, I gave you the benefit of the doubt. That will show you that we are democratic. But that was also before I woke up tonight to read that you were having another problem--This time with Foday himself.

Let me make this clear to you that you cannot disrespect any member of COCORIOKO on this forum. You response to Foday was deleted because it was disrespectful to him as the Chair of the Cocorioko Board and again you did not think before writing because you repeated something YOU HAD SWORN TO ME TODAY (AND WAS PREPARED TO CHALLENGE FODAY ON THE PHONE ABOUT )THAT YOU NEVER TOLD HIM. You have to stop confusing people. Do not say one thing, deny it and say it again. You are confusing others and creating conflicts. Learn to promote good relations between people. Do not knowingly create conflict between people.


Alpha Saidu, all these contradictions are the fact that you do not control what you say when you get angry. My frank advice to you is before you respond to people next, count up to 10. You may be a fine gentleman. Whenever I talk with you, I notice from the tone of your voice and your statements that you are respectful to me and you are a decent man , but my problem with you is your thoughtless statements online about other people.

Drop this obsession about who owns Cocorioko.

For the benefit of our readers and yourself, COCORIOKO does not belong even to me or the APC or to anybody in particular.I set up COCORIOKO and I did it to give the public a vehicle to express their views.If you don't see SLPP articles in the paper, it is because no SLPP man sends articles to me as they used to do. Cocorioko IS A PEOPLE'S NEWSPAPER. It belongs to the people. It belongs to you too if you have the right attitude.

Also let me make this clear to you that nobody dictates what I write. I am a free man of the realm since my birth.Those who knew me at CKC and FBC and throughtout life know that I can never be anybody's stooge. I am only promoting Ernest Koroma because I believe he is the best prospect for positive change and socio-political and economic development in Sierra Leone presently.

I hope you will listen to my kind and brotherly advice and give people a break. Try to write on issues , not individuals . May God bless you.



Subject: REV. KABS KANU, WHO DO YOU CHOOSE TO SERVE, GOD OR FODAY .
From: ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA
To: All
Date Posted: 17:58:19 02/08/08 ()
Email Address: SAIDUBANGSO@AOL.COM
Entered From: c-69-140-129-75.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.140.129.75

Message:
My brother Kabs, I pray that God will delivers you from all evils.
For the benefit for the reading public, I wish to make the following facts absolutely clear :
(1) Foday Mansaray is not somebody I personally know, I was born and raised in the heart of Freetown. I stand corrected, but I believe that Foday was born in a remote village in the hinterland of Sierra Leone, therefore we never had a meeting point.
(2) The phone call I made to Foday Mansaray was the result of a personal email, he(Foday) sent to me and in that email he begged me to call him. When I received his email, because he is not important, its took me two weeks to call him.
(3) When I called him, we had a very long discussion.
I am very pleased to note that you proved my point, which is the fact that you told me "that Cocorioko newspaper and its forum do not belong to no one person(e.g. Foday Mansaray) or no one political party( e.g. The APC). I also thank God for allowing Foday(himself) to agree with me in our conversation that, cocorioko newspaper/forum does not belong to him nor the APC. He also stated that nobody has the right to prevent any other person from taking part in the forum.
(4) Ironically, after our phone conversation the same Foday Mansaray, recommended that I (ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA) be banned from participating in the forum, only because I succeeded in pointing out to him, all his wrong actions as an APC operative.
That must tell any sober minded person that Foday has a big problem and he needs help.
(5) After talking to your boss Foday, you called me twice and left messages for me, as a matter of courtesy, I returned your calls. The moment you started telling me what Foday told you , I demanded that you allow me to put you(Kabs), Foday and I, on a three way phone line so that we can clarify what I told him during our conversation, But refused my offer, for reasons best known to you.
My brother Kabs, I understand your plight and I feel very sorry for you.
I pray that the Almighty God will improve your condition, so that you will be able to stand up against bad people like Foday Mansaray.
The funniest part of your post is that, you accused me for not discussing issues but attacking personalities.
Rev. Kabs- Kanu, I encourage you to go properly examine all my posts in this forum with an open mind, I challenge you that, you will find out that they are all based on two issues:
(a) The issue -of the APC not being the most suitable political party to lead the government of Sierra Leone.
(b) The issue -of the management of cocorioko and its forum not being FAIR and JUST to everybody that participates in them.
Its make a lot of sense for me point out all the personalities that affect these issues.
For example, If president Koroma decides to appoint you ( REV.KABS- KANU) to a the new position of the director of communications in state house. I will surely criticize president Koroma because I know that your appointment is outside our government structure and it will create a huge unnecessary financial burden on Sierra Leone and its people. Whenever I do that, I am making a meaningful contribution to national development.
I know you will be displeased when I do that, because you are desperate to get a job at all cost. But, you know what, I don't only care about you because you are my friend, I also care about my country.
I will always put Sierra Leone above my friends.
With respect, can you please tell us why whenever you or Foday or any other person acting on your behalf, attacks me on this forum, that is fine and good with you, therefore it will remain on the forum. But when I expose the wrong things you, your boos Foday Mansaray and your associates in the APC do, you quickly delete my posts? Is that what democracy means to you?
Is it because you serve Foday and not the Almighty God?
Please, keep in your mind the fact that there is a day of judgement- in which all the secrets of man will be revealed before God and he(the good God) will give you your dues.
I PRAY THAT THE ALMIGHTY GOD WILL ANOINT YOUR
HEAD WITH HIS HOLY OIL AND THAT YOUR CUP OF BLESSINGS WILL OVER FLOW.
SURELY I KNOW THAT THE GOODNESS AND THE MERCY OF GOD
SHALL FOLLOW YOU ALL DAYS OF OUR LIFE. AND YOU WILL WALK AWAY FROM THE HOME OF SATAN AND HIS AGENTS(CALLED THE APC) AND DWELL IN THE HOUSE OF GOD FOREVER.
Even though I am not conducting a church service,
I want the people of GOD TO SAY---AMEEN.


Subject: Re: REV. KABS KANU, WHO DO YOU CHOOSE TO SERVE, GOD OR FODAY .
From: GET LOST
To: All
Date Posted: 20:16:37 02/08/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198

Message:
YOU QUOTE THE HOLY BOOKS BUT YOU ARE UNHOLY LIKE SEWAGE WATER. YOU ATTACK OTHERS TO UPLIFT YOUR USELESS SELF. GET LOST MAN GET LOST. YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A PEST.


Subject: Re: A Brotherly advice to Alpha Saidu Bangura
From: WATER ON DUCKS BACK
To: All
Date Posted: 12:50:33 02/08/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198

Message:
WASTE OF YOUR PRECIOUS TIME BROTHER KABBS. THE MAN IS AN RUF COMBATTANT WHO TOOK REBELS TO THE HOME OF HIS BENEFACTOR AND THE PERSON WHO HELPED HIM COME TO AMERICA DO YOU THINK THAT HIS CHARACTER TRAITS ARE SALVAGEABLE IN THE COMPANY OF UPRIGHT MEN?

GIVE ME A BREAK THA MAN IS A SCOUNDREL AND JNOW THAT YOU KNOW, HE IS UNFIT TO BE AMONGST US. HE HAS NOT WASHED HIS HANDS CLEAN AND SHOULD NOT BE INVITED TO THE TABLE TO EAT WITH THE KINGS OF THE FORUM WHO WOULD RATHER BE DISCUSSING ISSUES NOT BESMEARING CHARACTERS.


Subject: Re: A Brotherly advice to Alpha Saidu Bangura
From: FODAY MANSARAY,Chairman of Board
To: All
Date Posted: 12:00:20 02/08/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-172-251-180.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net at 71.172.251.180

Message:
May God bless the good Rev.for taking his time to explain everything that transpired between himself and Alpha Saidu. I am confident that Alpha Saidu should not be given another opportunity to participate in this forum. He has not only denied everything that he said ,but trump up more outrageous lies to create new unnecessary problems.

The situation with my mother is clear. I requested both Muslim Jamaat to write an article and send it to me. I asked for pictures and stories many many times and it was not forth-coming. Cocorioko does not write article for people. People write their articles and send them to us for publication. Call Alhaji Alieru Bakarr how many times he promised to send me pictures and stories from Hajj. Please don't disseminate information that is not true.

Secondl,you have as much right as me to send congratulatory message your Mother. Moreover, the message represents my family AND the Muslim community of New Jersey, CONGRATULATING all those who successfully completed there Hajj.Why should you fuss about this, is beyound my comprehension.

Moreover,You also indicated during our conversation, that you went to School of Journalism with Philip Neville. I do not want to go there or talk about that. What is in Questioned here is your malicious attacked on kabbs and you deceitfulness to create confusion among good ,honorable and patriotic people who just want to see nothing, but Sierra Leone moving forward.

Rev. Kabbs, Moderator and Forum Police, Alpha Saidu must be ban for good. Giving him another chance is a great dis-service to this forum and the good people like Lawyer Alieu Iscandri who have great intention for progress and democracy. In my opinion, he needs to go somewhere else and create anarchy.

My apology to Rev. for even listening to you and remember this Alpha saidu, you can run but cannot hide .

You know what I am talking about.



Subject: Re: A Brotherly advice to Alpha Saidu Bangura
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 11:35:18 02/08/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 165.155.200.85

Message:
A fraternal article brimming with kindness, gentle firmness and integrity. So many critics who, out of political spite, wilfully distort your humanity and patriotism oughta be ashamed of themselves. I hope the Alpha heeds your wise counsel and realize that you bear him no malice. We should never allow petty politics to destroy the humanity that binds all of us. God bless, Rev.


Subject: Re: A Brotherly advice to Alpha Saidu Bangura
From: SIK
To: All
Date Posted: 10:42:59 02/08/08 ()
Email Address: sokoroma@hotmail.com
Entered From: lgrt-122.dhcp.umass.edu at 128.119.230.122

Message:
Thanks Kabs Kanu, you have sincerely attempted to remove a blurry line of indecency in the person of Alpha Saidu Bangura. Although he has a faulty cognition of his mischief and lies, it is clear that he is an irascible character. I love your advice to "count 10" before he reacts or responds to statements of any kind. Moreover, you also struck a key note on addressing issues not attacking personalities. Our perforated economy and fledging democracy, among others, are issues to discuss. Saidu B, please listen to the wise words of Kabs Kanu. If you have a problem of prompt emotional imbalance, some of us can help you. PLEASE DO NOT TAKE THIS PERSONAL. WE CAN HELP EACH OTHER. I KNOW YOU HAVE SKILLS BUT WHAT YOU HAVE DEMONSTRATED IS ONLY GOOD FOR A PROTEST AGAINST A USELESS GOVENMENT.


Subject: Re: A Brotherly advice to Alpha Saidu Bangura
From: POLITICAL
To: All
Date Posted: 10:39:08 02/08/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 207.108.136.237

Message:
So SAID BANGURA is also Candid Opinions? I didn't know that? Thanks Kabs.


Subject: Re: A Brotherly advice to Alpha Saidu Bangura
From: The chairman himself..
To: All
Date Posted: 13:28:49 02/08/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-172-251-180.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net at 71.172.251.180

Message:
The call card advertisement for Candid Opinion is also recommended for withdrawal from cocorioko front page.


Subject: Open letter to Alpha Saidu Bangura
From: KABS KANU
To: All
Date Posted: 04:31:06 02/08/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-dtc-ag14.proxy.aol.com at 205.188.117.142

Message:
Alpha Saidu Bangura,
I am addressing you openly on this forum to advice you to exercise great control when you are angry.There is o doubt in my mind that you are capable of being an excellent gentleman but I believe the problem is when you are mad, you do not control what you say and in the process you say things that are untrue only to deny saying them later. We have to be addressing these issues in public because COCORIOKO and this forum belong to the public, not even to me , who set them up. COCORIOKO is a public utility company, not a KABS KANU UTILITY COMPANY.That is why people even oppose and criticise me on this forum . Remember that COCORIOKO was first called THE PEOPLE'S DAILY NEWS-INQUIRER, before we changed it to COCORIOKO.

Yesterday morning, we had a discussion when you called me .I was lucky to get your call because I was just leaving one class and it was my free period. During the call, I scolded you seriously for something you did to me that I told you was not right. You were surprised because you did not know what you had done. I then took my time to explain to you what I thought you had done to me that was not right.I said that as a christian, it is my duty to tell people when they do something to me that was not right.

I told you that I had a discussion with Foday Mansaray the previous night and he told me that you had called him to complain that you had been banned from the forum. I told Foday that you had called me too but that I did not ban you and that I will investigate who banned you and find out the reasons and will take the appropriate decision , based on the facts. During that decision , Foday said you had made certain representations to him about him with regards to condemnations made of him . I told Foday point blank that I have never discussed COCORIOKO matters with you.The only thing I told you once was that COCORIOKO does not belong to the APC. This came about because you,Alpha Saidu, had been accusing me on this forum, on the AWARENESS FORUM and on the SLPP FORUM that Cocorioko was an APC NEWSPAPER.Your assertions were so persistent that I had to correct you.

I do recall our discussion well.You had called me to make angry protests that an article you wrote about the APC Leader , Ernest Koroma , had been removed from COCORIOKO. You wanted to know why because you were expressing your candid opinions to which you were entitled.You then accused me of being biased in favour of the APC . AT THAT TIME, ALEX MANSARAY WAS THE CEO OF COCORIOKO .REMEMBER ? you said you were advising me as a brother. Your advice was exactly this(WORDS TO THIS EFFECT ) : "Boss Kabs, you have established great respect and credibility as a journalist all over the world. Your newspaper, as you can see, is the best source of news about Sierra Leone. Wherever I go, people say very good things about you , but the only problem lately is that people are saying that the paper has become an APC paper . I myself am veey concerned about that because I love the paper and I respect you , but I want to believe what people are saying because you give more coverage to the APC than the SLPP and you ban more people associated with the SLPP from your forum than APC members.I am MUSLIM . When I die I will be the only person in my grave.I will not hesitate to tell you the truth. Boss Kabs, don't blame me for writing in the other forums that Cocorioko is APC . We even hear that there is one member of the APC going around telling people that Cocorioko belongs to him; he decides what goes into Cocorioko --If he does not want any article in Cocorioko it will not be published -and everybody on Cocorioko is working for him. This is very bad for democracy in Sierra Leone and I am very hurt because you, Boss Kabs, has come to be somebody we had all put our trust and confidence in that you are promoting democracy in Sierra Leone. Why should you sell out at this time ? These are my concerns ". WORDS TO THIS EFFECT.

That was when I clarified to you , as the Publisher and Editor-In-Chief , that COCORIOKO was not an APC paper and nobody was on the payroll of any APC member. I said that I was promoting Ernest Koroma because I had profound respect and trust in his integrity and commitment , having been his college mate at FBC in the 70s . I said Ernest Koroma presented the best hope for positive change in Sierra Leone.I still believe that and that is why I am behind the man. I know that he will bring lots of positive changes to Sierra Leone if given a chance.He will make mistakes , like any human being , but on the whole he will make a big difference for the better and everybody will be happy with him at the end (As long as he does not listen to bad advisers).

You will admit , for the sake of your God, our God and everybody's God , that the name FODAY MANSARAY never appeared in our discussion,because Foday had never even joined COCORIOKO then. Even you admitted to me today that YOU NEVER TOLD FODAY MANSARAY ANYTHING about his name being ever mentioned .You said Foday had sent you a note,asking you to call him and when you did, he set upon you attacking you for attacking his mother in the forum when it was published that she had returned from Mecca. You said you told him pointedly that you did it because it was not Foday's mum alone in Somerset,NJ that went to Mecca. You said Aliru Bakarr , a noted member of the Somerset Muslim Jamaat and others also went on the Hajj and that COCORIOKO should have reported about them too and not singled out his mother. You said all your discussions were based on what you thought was not being done right by COCORIOKO. I asked you over and over and over whether you were sure that you made no other misrepresentations to Foday with reference to me. You assured me fully that you did not and we were even supposed to have put Foday on the line today for you to debunk his statements to me.

Alpha Saidu, I have no reason to hate you or keep you out of this forum because I have nothing against you as a human being but as I also told you today, you have to be careful about the things you say and write when you are angry. THE BIBLE clearly warns in the book of JAMES that if any man says he is religious and cannot briddle his tongue, that man's religion is vain. (James 1: 26). Take your time to also read the whole of Chapter 3.

You have to stop saying things against Allieu Iscandari that are not right.

You have to stop writing things that are not true.Do not pass on to people what others did not tell you about them. This brings conflicts in the society.

You have to control what you say because these things do come to haunt you back. Say only something you can defend in the future.

After our discussion today, I asked FORUM POLICE to free the IP of the computer you said other Sierra Leoneans use. You denied using the moniker that was banned. Well, I gave you the benefit of the doubt.

However, you cannot disrespect any member of COCORIOKO on this forum. You response to Foday was deleted because it was disrespectful to him as the Chair of the Cocorioko Board and again you did not think before writing because you repeated something YOU HAD SWORN TO ME TODAY (AND WAS PREPARED TO CHALLENGE FODAY ON THE PHONE ABOUT )THAT YOU NEVER TOLD HIM. You have to stop confusing people.


Alpha Saidu, all these contradictions are the fact that you do not control what you say when you get angry. My frank advice to you is before you respond to people next, count up to 10. You may be a fine gentleman. Whenever I talk with you, I notice that you are respectful to me and decent , but my problem with you is your thoughtless statements online about other people.

For the benefit of our readers, COCORIOKO does not belong even to me or the APC or to anybody in particular.I set up COCORIOKO and I did it to give the public a vehicle to express their views.If you don't see SLPP articles in the paper, it is because no SLPP man sends articles to me as they used to do. Cocorioko IS A PEOPLE'S NEWSPAPER. It belongs to the people. It belongs to you too if you have the right attitude.

Nobody dictates what I write. I am a free man of the realm since my birth.Those who knew me at CKC and FBC and throughtout life know that I can never be anybody's stooge. I am only promoting Ernest Koroma because I believe he is the best prospect for positive change and socio-political and economic development in Sierra Leone presently.


Subject: Umpire and Prolificacy
From: Jorgor
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Date Posted: 21:34:42 02/07/08 ()
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Umpire: Please send me your library list. You nar wan big, bad, en fat cakroach:). Shakespeare, Dickens, Chaucer or Wordsworth sef tell lie. It’s been a while since I saw a man who controls the King’s language like you do. I salute you sir. However, I will admonish you to be careful not to get caught up in the PhD syndrome – I will hate to see you go. Prolificacy is not appreciated by some of your compatriots.


Subject: Re: Umpire and Prolificacy
From: Mohm Syddrome
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Date Posted: 22:22:53 02/07/08 ()
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Oh! Mohm nor ba lef ee black teeth.


Subject: Re: Umpire and Prolificacy
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 22:38:03 02/07/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
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Jorgor, are you going to let 'him' get away with it? Come on: ropeadope the obscurantist. Since we all picked this crappy King's language as a second language, I shall refrain from commenting on phonetical, alphabetical, grammatical or idiomatic errors. Instead, smoke out the cognitive content, and crush it with a hammer. Lesson from the trenches of obscurantism.


Subject: Re: Umpire and Prolificacy
From: I told you
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Date Posted: 00:56:18 02/08/08 ()
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He just buttressed my comments. I will ignore him for now.


Subject: Re: Umpire and Prolificacy
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 21:54:12 02/07/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
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Don't worry about a thing, Jorgor. The last time I checked, my Ph.D[og] kanda was in the claws of a bitch in heat. So happy was I; imagine Umpire calling himself "Doctor". Annointed by the West? Burn the seed of the thought. In utter disgust have I alienated all those silly degrees: Ph.D., Esq., not to mention that hubristic moniker, "Professor". No: call me not Prof. Dr...., Esq. Call me by the name my mother and father gave me, my name sans "Middle Ages" crap: my name, I say, toute courte. Excuse me! It takes a while for a monkey to leave its black hand behind.


Subject: Re: Umpire and Prolificacy
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 22:28:13 02/07/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
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Don't you know, Jorgor, that the greatest library or, for that matter, "university" is your soul. "Check out your mind!" I know, I know: "old school stuff." Curtis Mayfield. I even sampled my "uneducated educated" from his discography. Without completely embracing Plato, the most venerated homosexual in the West, I say that after 19 you know how to avoid error, i.e., you are cannonically hip, especially if were raised in the ghettoes of the East End of Freetown, and if you escape Satan's pimphood. Amen?


Subject: Re: Umpire and Prolificacy
From: Mahatma
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Date Posted: 04:46:31 02/08/08 ()
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Now Therevada working. I knew I left the Sangha from our last cyber altercation. Keep it up and avoid obscenities.


Subject: Re: Umpire and Prolificacy
From: Umpire
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Date Posted: 05:42:40 02/08/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
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Gentlemen, behold: Mahatma-Sankoh (did part did you have dinner last night?) has morphed into a Hindu morayman.


Subject: Re: Umpire and Prolificacy
From: Mahatma
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Date Posted: 09:42:41 02/08/08 ()
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You seem obstinate in your acceptance of reality. On reading this, "...that the greatest library or, for that matter, "university" is your soul. "Check out your mind!...", I assumed you've embraced the 'SANGHA'. It is a good thing to understand that the spiritual side of man is the greatest resource centre.

I do not eat that which is unclean to eat. I am unable to understand where the connection between myself and 'sankoh' came from.

I need to help you with your grasp of profound wisdom. It may help you in your everyday career. I am not a cleaner - if I was, i would make it my pride to be the best of all cleaners. I pride in whatever I do. Not to 'bluff' others but for self. Your problem is discerning feelings and 'the reality'. Your anger over the truth makes a mockery of intellectualism's doctrines. The maxims in 'The Desiderata' may help you communicate well with me. I harbor no grudge against you. My concern is that your brilliant mind is not maturely directed. If directed properly, the world is your oyster and so many will benefit from you. As is evidenced on this forum - none is benefiting.

Please think before you respond to this!!


Subject: Re: Umpire and Prolificacy
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 11:17:58 02/08/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
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Message:
Maybe you ate too many long sleeves last night. Please eat a trainload tonight.

Wisdom that fails to recognize that it is being ignored is buffonery. Go way, Foday: every sane participant in this forum knows you lost. Next time, pick on an easier target. To quote Kabs, "don't push your luck!" Since I am sick and tired of beating on you, I advise you not to respond to my postings: if you do, you will only have yourself to blame for the verbal tsunami that I will drop on you. As Kabs has stated many times, this forum is a locus for the statement and elaboration and critique of ideas. If you wish to make this forum a yellow rag, I should think that the professional editors, Kabs and Mansaray, know their craft. I expect them to act seasonably and professionally on YOUR CASE.


Subject: Re: Umpire and Prolificacy
From: Mahatma
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Date Posted: 12:03:57 02/08/08 ()
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When will you start exploring reason? I am not here to haunt you but only as a guide to what could be of invaluable use to all - your soul and mind matters. Speak slowly, my Dr.


Subject: Re: Umpire and Prolificacy
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 05:44:20 02/08/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
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Message:
I meant (which part.....)


Subject: DID BEAH-MEMOIR OF A BOY SOLDIER LIED ?
From: WHY
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Date Posted: 20:49:58 02/07/08 ()
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TOO BAD IF THIS IS TRUE.CAN SOMEBODY TELL US WHEN THE REBEL REALLY CAPTURER MATTRU JONG.

DID BEAH HELP ANY WAR AFFECTED VICTIM IN SIERRA LEONE WITH SUCH SALES FROM THE BOOK

DID THE WHITE WOMAN USED HIM TO LIE ABOUT HIS STORIES

THESE ARE HONEST QUESTIONS.


FROM PEEP NEWS PAPER

The 27-year-old Beah, whose A Long Way Gone: Memoirs of a Boy Soldier has nearly 700,000 copies in print, wrote that he spent more than two years in the government army during Sierra Leone's civil war in the 1990s.

He is now an international spokesman for human rights who last fall was appointed UNICEF's Advocate for Children Affected by War.

But in a series of articles, The Australian quoted several residents in and around Mattru Jong, not far from Beah's native Mogbwemo, questioning how long Beah served.

According to A Long Way Gone, Beah, separated from his family when war struck, was driven first from Mogbwemo and then from Mattru Jong after rebels attacked in early 1993.

Twelve years old at the time, he spent months wandering homeless with a few other boys and eventually was forced to fight for the government, serving more than two years before he was rescued by UNICEF in early 1996.

He immigrated to the United States in 1998, graduated from Oberlin College in 2004 and now lives in New York City.

According to The Australian, the Mattru Jong battle described by Beah happened in early 1995, making Beah's time in the army a few months at most. Instead, the newspaper quotes residents who say Beah was in school in 1993 and 1994. Though no one is challenging the horror he endured, the altered timeline would affect the balance of a book praised as an unprecedented narrative of a child turned soldier.

"I have tried to think deeply about this," said Beah, speaking by cellphone in London, where he was promoting the paperback edition of the book. "And my memory only gives me 1993 and nothing more. And that's what I stand by."

They were Beah's first extended comments about the controversy since The Australian's first story appeared in Jan. 19-20 editions.

The newspaper's investigation began after an Australian, Bob Lloyd, living in Sierra Leone and working near Mattru Jong, read the book and became aware of possible discrepancies. Lloyd confirmed the findings to the AP but otherwise declined comment.

Beah's book was published in 2007 to great acclaim and some skepticism, with a handful of reviewers questioning how he could recall events that happened a decade earlier, when he was in his early to midteens, continuously endangered and on the run and, by his own account, often under the influence of drugs.

"Who of us in our 20s could accurately summon up our day-by-day lives as preteens? As you read A Long Way Gone, the details allow you to distinguish precise recall from autobiographical blur," William Boyd, who called the book a landmark of wartime writing, wrote in the New York Times.

"The horror is duly registered, but its vagueness and generality don't add up to moments of lived personal history. Indeed, Beah's time in the army, and the accounts of the patrols and firefights he was caught up in, represent only a small portion of this book. And who can blame him? The blood lust of a drug-crazed adolescent on the rampage with an assault rifle would challenge the descr1ptive powers of James Joyce."

Beah's whereabouts in 1993 and 1994 will likely remain a matter of conflicting memories and not documented fact. Because of the civil war, records at his school were destroyed, as were copies of contemporary newspaper accounts.

The book itself is not widely available in Sierra Leone, and one Mattru Jong native quoted by The Australian, school principal Abdul Barrie, told the AP that he had never seen it until a journalist showed him a copy.

Barrie also said rebels "made sporadic attacks and withdrawals on Mattru Jong from 1993 until January 1995, when the "whole town" was captured "and everybody left." He is the principal of the Centennial Secondary School, which Beah attended before fleeing Mattru Jong.

One report, a field study compiled by No Peace Without Justice, a human-rights organization, describes an attack on Mattru Jong in early 1995 and includes similarities with the conflict Beah dates to 1993. Both Beah and No Peace Without Justice say the attack was preceded by a Catholic official bearing a message of warning from rebels. In each case, government troops did not protect the town, allowing rebels to overrun it.

"It is a strange coincidence," Beah said of the report, but he added that the rebels had a history of carrying out attacks in similar ways. "It could be that they followed a formula."

Memoirs, of course, are a famously imperfect art form. Inaccuracies and omissions appear in classics by Henry Adams, Benjamin Franklin and countless other works. Though few are reduced to proven deceit, such as James Frey's A Million Little Pieces, even the best books are only as reliable as memory itself.

Many memoirs include disclaimers at the front, saying names or dates or the sequence of events have been changed, often to protect identities or prevent legal action. A Long Way Gone has no disclaimer. Beah says that although he did no research for the book and kept no diary at the time he was a soldier, he did begin writing things down not long after he left Sierra Leone.

Still, the book is based entirely on memory.

"I wanted to write about how I felt about war," he says.

Beah said he has received several inquiries about films rights for A Long Way Gone, but has not accepted any because he didn't want a "Hollywood version" of his story. Meanwhile, he wants to write again about Sierra Leone, this time without the need of fact-checking or disclaimers: He wants to write fiction.

AP reporter Clarance Macaulay in Freetown, Sierra Leone, contributed to this report.


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Subject: Re: DID BEAH-MEMOIR OF A BOY SOLDIER LIED ?
From: Bai Bureh
To: All
Date Posted: 01:11:19 02/08/08 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
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Message:
If this Aussie writer is inclined to exposing liars he should have started with his own people who have never told the truth pertaining to the STOLEN GENERATION.

The Aborigines will never forgive the white Aussies for stealing their babies and they will never forget the mental pain the practice inflicted on them.Till now the white Aussies have not offered a single convincing explanation for stealing Aboriginal babies.The worst thing is what they did to those babies still remains a jealously guarded secret.But they tried to fool the world with the crap that what they did was to the advantage of the Aborigines. Who knows maybe most of the kids landed on the breakfast or dinner table or used as sex slaves.Time will tell.

I think people should not be interested in what Beah did but why he did it.After all what is better than money? If he lied to make money as long as he has not snatched bucks from anyone there should not be any hullabaloo about it.


Subject: Re: DID BEAH-MEMOIR OF A BOY SOLDIER LIED ?
From: Fen Plaba!
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Date Posted: 22:52:03 02/07/08 ()
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Message:
God bless Ishmael Beah. The brother fibbed a bit, sold 700,000 books, became a millionaire and some Aborigine killer is screaming "liar, liar!". Big deal. We cannot all be too moralistic about Beah's lies, can we? We all were told not to lie by our parents even as they lied to us sometimes (and we forgave them too!). We have lied and been lied to, by our parents, teachers, friends, kids, spouses, kaitch-kaitch, politicians, pastors and Imams. In fact we are all lied out! Forumites who have never told a whopper before, cast a stone....and see it boomerang as a dense Metamorphic to whack you right in the kisser.
Through the lies, Ishmael told a few truths and his role in accompanying some Rap stars to Salone to expose the wretched, lingering effects of the rebel war is commendable. I remember seeing Raekwon of the Wu-Tang Clan and Paul Ward visibly angry with the head of Koidu Holdings about the company's parasitic practices, in the documentary about that trip.
Ishmael's activities with he United Nations, to stop the criminal practice of child soldiers, is also something we all should be proud of. The brother is not a saint but he sure is an OK kid in my books. I salute the young brother from Mattru Jong and wish him the very best.
Enjoy your millions Ishnael. God will judge us all when we make the transition....And continue to ignore that damned Aussie pseudo-investigative reporter. Where was he when John Howard was lying yo the Australian people over the Iraq invasion? Poh-doh!


Subject: Re: DID BEAH-MEMOIR OF A BOY SOLDIER LIED ?
From: NONSENSE
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Date Posted: 21:04:51 02/07/08 ()
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I KNOW FOR SURE IT WAS THE REBELS WHO WERE HIGH ON DRUGS NOT THE ARMY.
SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT ABOUT THIS GUYS STORY.

IT IS GOOD THAT THE AUSTRALIAN JOURNALIST IS CHALLENGING IT.

I HAVE NO PROBLEM IF WHAT WAS WRITTEN IS CORRECT.

Child Soldier: 'God Was Looking Out for Me'
Instead of losing faith, this former child soldier from Sierra Leone believed only God could save him.
Interview by Alana B. Elias Kornfeld


Photo credit: John Madere
Ishmael Beah, now 26, lived with his family in Sierra Leone until 1991, when rebels attacked and violently destroyed his and neighboring villages marking the start of the country's civil war. Chaos and havoc took over as the rebels raped women and girls in front of their husbands and brothers, took young girls as sex slaves, and killed the rest of their families. When most 12-year-olds were enjoying the innocence of childhood, Beah was struggling to stay alive. Beah lost his family (he later found out they were all murdered by rebels) and so he wandered around Sierra Leone with a few friends, many of whom died along the way, in search of food and shelter. He escaped murder by pretending he was a corpse, impressed village chiefs by rapping in English, and even stole food out of a baby's hands.

When he was 13 Beah was picked up by the government army who turned him into a killing machine. Hopped up on drugs—marijuana, amphetamines, and brown-brown, a mix of cocaine and gunpowder (all provided by the army)—and wielding AK-47s, he entered a mad world. He tortured and killed countless people while looking into their "pale, sad" eyes; he forced people to dig their own graves as he believed it would be a waste of bullets to shoot them; he broke into houses, killed the people in it, and sat on their dead bodies while eating their food. In 1996, after many sleep-deprived, violent years, Beah was saved when the army inexplicably released him to a UNICEF rehabilitation center. There he suffered migraines and the excruciating trauma of drug withdrawal, and was overwhelmed by violent flashbacks. He had to relearn how to sleep and even how to sit still for more than a few seconds. He then moved in with an uncle (his only living relative, who later died in Beah's arms) in Freetown, Sierra Leone. He was invited to speak at the United Nations in New York in 1996. There, he met a Jewish-born storyteller, Laura Simms, who later adopted him when he fled from Freetown to New York City after the 1999 coup; he calls her his mother. In the United States, Beah received a B.A. in political science from Oberlin College. He now lives in Brooklyn, NY and works with the Human Rights Watch Children Advisory Committee to end the use of child soldiers worldwide by explaining how easy it is to dehumanize children and serves as a living example that rehabilitation is possible and imperative.

Beah recently spoke with Beliefnet about his faith in God, how he prays to his ancestors, and why--with many reasons not to--he believes humans are good. His first book, "A Long Way Gone: Memoirs of a Boy Soldier,"--a vivid, firsthand account of war, is a New York Times bestseller and has recently been nominated for a Quill Book Award.


Listen to Ishmael Beah:
Sing a Bob Marley Song About Happiness
Recite the Prayers He Said When Escaping from Sierra Leone


What was your religious identity before the war in Sierra Leone?

I grew up as a Muslim. I went to an Islamic elementary school. Most of my community was Muslim, so I grew up praying five times a day. There were two things going on at the same time: there was the religion part of it, and then there was also the tradition--the culture and the tribal tenets--things like you need to be a good person, you should be nice to your neighbors, pay attention to your neighbors, respect your elders. It was a good way to live.

In your book, you often describe the land and environement around you while you were fighting the war in Sierra Leone. What is your connection to nature?

I believe one of the things that made me able to survive was this strong awareness I had of nature and appreciation of life. It was so strong inside me that I went through the war and it never completely got wiped out.

With my grandmother and the village life, there was more of an emphasis on the spiritual connection to the land, and being aware of how it changes when people's behaviors change.

As a kid in Africa you were so connected to nature itself because you went farming, watched the moon out at night, observed how the sky was different, and how the birds chanted different songs in the evening and the morning.

During the war when these things changed, when the gunshots actually replaced the songs of birds, it was a very sharp change and you could feel it as a child because you'd learned to see and feel this connection so much.

Which religious or spiritual practices had the most meaning for you as a child?

A lot of Muslims also do traditional practices, which is that they would pour wine on the land to thank the ancestors, to invite the ancestors for different, annual events. In my culture, we consider people who passed away, family members, as spiritual participants of communities. They know that they're not necessarily gone, but they exist spiritually and you can ask for help. You can talk to them.

And so as a Muslim boy, I would do this with my family as well. I think what I'm trying to say is that because there was such a flexibility, I was able to actually take every religion that I've become involved with, I was able to take the good tenets of them and use them in conjunction with what I already knew.



Subject: Re: DID BEAH-MEMOIR OF A BOY SOLDIER LIED ?
From: ok now
To: All
Date Posted: 06:13:03 02/08/08 ()
Email Address: okwow@msn.com
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Message:
if he was young the chances of him remembverign the exact date are small. if everythign else in the book is accurate but his dates are off a little bit leave th eboy alone. and he should do whatever he wants to do with the money. he is in american a democracy. this is not a communist society where you have to share the wealth. if i wrote a book like that I wpould have donated most of proceeds to my brothers and sisters affected. but we cannot force someone to do it. salone we need to stop this attitude of pull him down. now if there is proof to show that he was never a child combatant and he lied an dpublished the book as non fiction then people have a right to be mad at him. but until then he is innocent until proven guilty. leave the salone style judiciary system out of this the guilty until proven innocent and you never get your nam eback. which is the same thing that a lot of yougn black males face in the U.S.A.


Subject: KABS, Mahatma, et al on Moh’m and Monikers.
From: Justice Jorgor
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Date Posted: 20:24:02 02/07/08 ()
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Since you realized that Umpire is not Moh’m Jalloh, I have not heard you apologize for your fallacious mindset. Only God knows the number of times you have pointed fingers at Moh’m when in actual fact he was innocent. It is amazing how many of you, having realized your erroneous ways, are still acting as if you did nothing wrong.

I had called on KABS to atone for his unfair treatment of the gentleman (Moh’m), but he chose to ignore me. Where is your decency, sir? Are you so proud that you lack the magnanimity and humility to admit fault? Or are you so myopic that you still believe in your dire action? Just because nobody is saying anything, except me, does not mean you should pretend all is well, or nobody noticed.

KABS, this unscrupulous action may well come back to hunt you. I still have regard and appreciation for you. Please put thing in perspective and reach out to Moh’m; he has been the object of unfair abuse, criticism, and ridicule. Common guys, do the right thing!


Subject: Re: KABS, Mahatma, et al on Moh’m and Monikers.
From: KABS KANU
To: All
Date Posted: 02:34:57 02/08/08 ()
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Message:
I , kABS kANU, know who you are ,even as you write now , so let sleeping dogs lie. You just don't push your luck on this forum .


Subject: Re: KABS, Mahatma, et al on Moh’m and Monikers.
From: Justice Jorgor
To: All
Date Posted: 22:12:20 02/08/08 ()
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KABS:
Unfortunately you are reading my postings as attacks on your personality, but I honestly wanted you to reason with me and react positively. Believe it or not, I have never met, nor spoken to, neither Moh’m or Umpire, but driven only by a sense of righteousness. Reverend, you do understand that, don't you? However, since I failed in my effort to bring us together in a fair, balance, and honest setting – in the spirit of reconciliation and peace – I will heed your counsel and let sleeping dogs lie.

Let me say this:
I. Looking back, I may have used strong words to convey my feelings, but my intentions were genuine. You got it all wrong KABS. The post may be harsh and unflattering, but the gist of it is factually accurate.

II. There is no reason for me to conceal my identity. I hope you are not making the fallacious mistake of assuming I am someone else (a mindset that is causing unnecessary clashes on this forum). Hopefully, we can see through these errors of judgment and wise up. I knew you and everyone at Tablet years ago, but I doubt you know me.

III. "You just don't push your luck on this forum." KABS.
What exactly do you mean? What luck? Can you expound? I sense an implied threat. If it is, then that is so petty of you! Are you going to ban me for that? I would be disappointed – not because I would miss Cocorioko forum, but because I have more respect for you and Cocorioko and expect higher standards.

IV. Finally, you don’t need my advice, you may not need my input, but I think this forum needs effective politesse. Cocorioko is degenerating into a place for vicious personal attacks and vulgarities. This forum is a big achievement on you part, for which I commend you. However, you need to exact control, not censorship, over the forum, lest it plunges into the abyss of decadence fit only for idle riff-raff miscreants.

From my observation, you tend to react selectively on behalf of, or against certain individuals. I don’t know your definition of vicious attack and vulgarity but compare my posting to this:
“U too big for dis alaki footlicking piss-tail idleness ya so bo. If anyone needs to apologize, it is you: for continually dragging Mohm's name into the fray and for attempting to pollute the forum with the Bormeh from the ghettoes of your idle mind.”

Apparently this fellow thinks he is rigorously defending you, with such language. If I follow the tradition on this forum, I would say he is your surrogate, but I would not because there is no evidence to that effect. Mind you, I am not complaining (I will handle him in due course), but pointing out the ‘skewness’ of your approach. Don’t you think it would be responsible, on your part, to make sure you repudiate this approach by your supporter? Even if you were not the Publisher and Editor-In-Chief, but an ordinary ‘forumite’, like me, you would have a stake in yearning for decency on this forum. That is exactly what I'm doing – standing up for unity, freedom, and justice.

It is not inscrutable to fathom that decorum and civility are essential components to maintain civilize, peaceful, and productive community. That is why you must be fair, firm, and consistent. One, more, or a combination of these elements is lacking.
Once again, this is not a personal vendetta – just my .02 cents.
God bless you Rev.


Subject: Re: KABS, Mahatma, et al on Moh’m and Monikers.
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 21:51:00 02/07/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Lef dis bellah bizness. U too big for dis alaki footlicking piss-tail idleness ya so bo. If anyone needs to apologize, it is you: for continually dragging Mohm's name into the fray and for attempting to pollute the forum with the Bormeh from the ghettoes of your idle mind.


Subject: Re: KABS, Mahatma, et al on Moh’m and Monikers.
From: J..
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Date Posted: 00:29:12 02/08/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Fem Plaba: You had a discussion with Monkey nor ba lef im blackhan (me) a while ago, in which you promise for lef for fen plaba. You promised not to change your name but will stop this yuki yuki business. Now you wan dreg me pan una monkey dance. Instead of attacking me personally, tell me what I said that you disagree with. waitin morna you. ar nor talk to you, nor fen me plaba.


Subject: Re: KABS, Mahatma, et al on Moh’m and Monikers.
From: So True
To: All
Date Posted: 22:26:45 02/07/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-126-139-157.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 71.126.139.157

Message:
Thank you my brother Fen Plaba! This guy nar big man big fool bellah...You nor think say nar mohm dey tok to een sef?


Subject: FGM debate wages on
From: Erica Adams
To: All
Date Posted: 20:08:26 02/07/08 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
Entered From: adsl-074-185-005-235.sip.clt.bellsouth.net at 74.185.5.235

Message:
I am very happy this debate still lives on. For those who believe that FGM is a matter of "culture", I would like to challenge your sense of cultural norms. Not very long ago in the US, black men were hanged from trees while whites looked on. This was a norm, mostly in the southern states. But thanks be to God this cultural norm was challenged and now we are very close to having a black man as president of the US. My challenge to all of you FGM supporters is to please look at the links I have included in this post and image these girls are your daughters who are suffering first from the FGM and then for some again from fistulas as a result of the FGM. There are times when cultural norms have to be challenged, I believe this is the time and one of the many issues that need to be challenged.


Subject: Re: FGM debate wages on
From: Erica Adams
To: All
Date Posted: 20:14:46 02/07/08 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
Entered From: adsl-074-185-005-235.sip.clt.bellsouth.net at 74.185.5.235

Message:
This is the other link I wanted people to read.


Subject: BOOK VERSUS WOMAN AND BENJAMINS
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 16:42:21 02/07/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: x4207254e.ip.e-nt.net at 66.7.37.78

Message:
My dear patriots, I need your help: my Swede says I spend too much time in this forum. Ultimatum: spend more time with me, or lose me and my money, she thunders. Don't worry: a compromise, I shall fashion. I love the opoto, the money, and this forum: therefore, I'll cherry pick: small, small book, somewhat more, but not substantially more, big, big woman, and unqualifiedly mountains of Benjamins. POLITICAL AND FEN PLABA you jinxed me. What a rosy life I had; book, money and woman. Stupid I was to leave my computer unguarded. Swede thought I was working on a brief. She must have liberated my computer. I suspect a Salone woman has a hand in my quagmire. Den Salone baby ya! oona go blow?


Subject: Re: BOOK VERSUS WOMAN AND BENJAMINS
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 18:24:04 02/07/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-4577b27b.dyn.optonline.net at 69.119.178.123

Message:
U crazy man? No contest here at all! Okay let's go:
On one hand, a beautiful, gorgeous, Viking surgeon-princess who thinks the world of you and worships you with her check and soul. On the other hand, a bunch of ugly, greasy hombres like me who drink too much beer, know more about politics than ATK, EBK, SPK, ATJ-S, AM and MM combined, fantasize about Viking princesses and crash the keyboards in frustration.
No bro, no contest at all. The forum wins hands down!


Subject: Re: BOOK VERSUS WOMAN AND BENJAMINS
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 19:19:15 02/07/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-114-169-98.hsd1.dc.comcast.net at 76.114.169.98

Message:
What a great mind? A combo of Nietzsche, Plato, and Me! The result: a double whammy: a sedimented irony. Give him some love. On the other hand, Bra., I am writing this text in the bathroom, pretending to .... You know these Vikings probably better than I do, knowing how cunning you can be: I better go. Now!


Subject: Re: BOOK VERSUS WOMAN AND BENJAMINS
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 18:41:01 02/07/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-4577b27b.dyn.optonline.net at 69.119.178.123

Message:
Correction: SPK should be SPS (the cot-nek pa)


Subject: NORTHERNIZATION OR TAKING BACK OUR COUNTRY?
From: THEMNE APC
To: All
Date Posted: 16:36:56 02/07/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 164.106.71.233

Message:
A country of western Africa on the Atlantic coast. Inhabited by the Temne when the Portuguese first visited the coast in 1460, the region was later settled by Mande-speaking peoples from present-day Liberia. In 1792 freed slaves were brought from Nova Scotia to found the colony of Freetown, which was transferred to British administration in 1808. The region became a British protectorate in 1896 and achieved independence in 1961. Sierra Leone became a republic in 1971. Freetown is the capital and the largest city. Population: 5,730,000.


Subject: Re: NORTHERNIZATION OR TAKING BACK OUR COUNTRY?
From: Bai Bureh
To: All
Date Posted: 03:26:50 02/08/08 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: c83-248-82-127.bredband.comhem.se at 83.248.82.127

Message:
Hmm. If I can remember well sometime ago a forumite called Pedro Da Cintra posted some research findings where he tried to prove that the temnes are indeed the original Sierra Leoneans and were the ones who actually interacted with Pedro Da Cintra in 1462. Seems he did his research well.


Subject: Re: NORTHERNIZATION OR TAKING BACK OUR COUNTRY?
From: nico
To: All
Date Posted: 07:13:44 02/08/08 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
Entered From: 82-45-226-138.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.45.226.138

Message:
Bai Bureh

You supported the assertion that the Temenes first interacted with Pedro Da Cintra in 1462 and thus supported the myth that Temenes were the original Sierra Leoneans. You defined an original Sierra Leonean by that interraction.

Surely the Temenes, like all the tribes we now have in Sierra Leone, at some point, migrated from somewhere else. How could you tell that the Temenes that intaracted with Pedro, were in fact a collection of African migrants who were roaming away from the slave hunters and captors during the partisioning of Africa.

If you are not happy with that, could it be that the Temenes germinated like trees from the soil of Freetown? That is not possible. Thus, we need to know how they arrived and settled in Freetown before 1462, since they did not germinate there.

Temenes being the first to have interracted with the invader, Pedro, could not have conferred ownership or originality of Sierra Leone or even Freetown to the Temenes when your claim is based on ownership. Where there not equally other submerged tribes in Sierra Leone who did not immediately interracted or came in contact with Pedro Da Cintra?

I am not a historian, my views are drawn from the thesis of the philosopher Rene Descartes on "doubt and knowledge" in which he stated that any belief that was open to the slightest doubt should be rejected in the hope to establishing the truths.

I have rejected your first truth., which stated that the Temenes were the original Sierra Leoneans because they had interracted with Pedro Da Cintra. Since the Temenes did not germinate on the soils of Freetown or Sierra Leone, they must have come from somewhere. Moreover, what makes them the original Sierra Leonean?

We will begin to fan out this claim to originality when you extablished emperically how the Temenes arrived in Sierra Leoene. Lastly you will need to tell us whether the purported Temenes who had the first encounter with Pedro Da Cintra where, firstly, Temenes and secondly all Temenes.


Subject: Re: NORTHERNIZATION OR TAKING BACK OUR COUNTRY?
From: Contri
To: All
Date Posted: 10:14:03 02/08/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: client-86-0-80-223.leed.adsl.virgin.net at 86.0.80.223

Message:
Temne has over 35 sub-tribes. In Sierra leone you have about 6; Guinea - 3; Burkina faso 2, Ivory Coast 4; mali 8; Niger 1; Togo 1, Benin 2 and the rest in Central Africa. The Temnes today originated from Guinea - 'the baka' - through time they interacted with the sapes (nearly extinct) and mampas (absorbed into a sutribe of the temne. They were a dominate group of nigrants and were able to influence change everywhere they went. They are a part of the mande group that left their origins in northwestern sub-saharan africa before of all the atlantic subfamily of languages.

freetown was inhabited by the sapes before the rokel temne-mampa consortium took Rokiamp (Ro camp - meaning the camp). It was name 'Ro camp' during the slave trade. before this it was part of Rokel. there were other small villages - around the coastal part which was - the freetown.

Got some work to do but will try and finish the story as it was narrated by my great grandfather.


Subject: Re: NORTHERNIZATION OR TAKING BACK OUR COUNTRY?
From: nico
To: All
Date Posted: 14:11:04 02/08/08 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
Entered From: 82-45-226-138.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.45.226.138

Message:
Contri

I am very grateful for your information. I would like to know more.

Regards


Subject: Re: NORTHERNIZATION OR TAKING BACK OUR COUNTRY?
From: Contri
To: All
Date Posted: 10:30:04 02/08/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: client-86-0-80-223.leed.adsl.virgin.net at 86.0.80.223

Message:
See: "Africa and Africans in the Making of the Atlantic World, 1400-1800 - By John Kelly Thornton". It will show you the early settlers.


Subject: Re: NORTHERNIZATION OR TAKING BACK OUR COUNTRY?
From: Historian
To: All
Date Posted: 19:11:46 02/07/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cpe-69-203-68-190.nyc.res.rr.com at 69.203.68.190

Message:
Are you contending that the Temne and Mandes were never victims of the Slave Trade?.....and that the so called Freed slaves have no genealogical links to the people of the Atlantic coast?


Subject: Re: NORTHERNIZATION OR TAKING BACK OUR COUNTRY?
From: Watasai Stone
To: All
Date Posted: 22:40:03 02/07/08 ()
Email Address: laj210@aol.com
Entered From: at 131.118.54.87

Message:
No he Is claiming that the Temne are the original owners of Sierra Leone and That the Mende and Krio foreigners came invaded thier native lands later.


Subject: Re: NORTHERNIZATION OR TAKING BACK OUR COUNTRY?
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 05:56:12 02/08/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-114-169-98.hsd1.dc.comcast.net at 76.114.169.98

Message:
According to the Abrahamic religions (scr1ptually founded religions), to God belongs the whole earth. Therefor, God owns Sierra Leone, assuming you are a believer.


Subject: Re: NORTHERNIZATION OR TAKING BACK OUR COUNTRY?
From: Mahatma
To: All
Date Posted: 10:16:58 02/08/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: client-86-0-80-223.leed.adsl.virgin.net at 86.0.80.223

Message:
We are getting there!! Do not be afraid continue and your spiritual attainment is near!! Sanghat mu kin kan ntich cabala!!! He who has eyes will see before dawn!!


Subject: Re: NORTHERNIZATION OR TAKING BACK OUR COUNTRY?
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 11:30:35 02/08/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: x4207254e.ip.e-nt.net at 66.7.37.78

Message:
I am convinced that you have, by now, run out of body parts; go for dog parts! However, remember that under US law, unlike your Uncle's Salone, long sleeving or short sleeving dogs is a felony. Given your strange constitution, it is just a matter of time before you end up in the slammer. Woto! Back off: this is my last warning to you, and I hope the Moderator is monitoring this discussion.


Subject: Re: NORTHERNIZATION OR TAKING BACK OUR COUNTRY?
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 16:49:22 02/07/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: x4207254e.ip.e-nt.net at 66.7.37.78

Message:
So what? Nothing follows: to the extent that the Mande-speaking peoples" are not Northerners, Northerners can't "take back" what they never had. The question you need to address is precisely when did Sierra Leone emerge as a historical entity. Hit the books, bra!


Subject: WHO IS A KRIO/CREOLE?
From: Contri
To: All
Date Posted: 14:45:31 02/07/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-143-241-200.range86-143.btcentralplus.com at 86.143.241.200

Message:
Anyone can be a krio overtime and place! Who then is a krio?


Subject: Re: WHO IS A KRIO/CREOLE?
From: alcole
To: All
Date Posted: 16:21:42 02/07/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 69.74.168.162

Message:
The Sierra Leone Creole (or Krios) are an ethnic group in Sierra Leone, descendants of various groups of freed slaves from the West Indies, North America and Britain [1] landed in Freetown between 1787 and about 1855 (or possibly as late as 1860).


Subject: Hon. Charles Margai snubs SLPP
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 14:08:09 02/07/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-071271d5.01-32-73746f42.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se at 213.113.18.7

Message:
Charles Margai snubs SLPP

"A desperate attempt by the opposition Sierra Leone Peoples Party (SLPP) to appeal to the Leader of the Peoples Movement for Democratic Change (PMDC), Charles Margai, to return to the SLPP so as to solve the party’s leadership problem has been rebuffed. According to The
Exclusive, Charles Margai was quoted to have disclosed that “over his dead body should he return to the SLPP”. The SLPP-defected PMDC leader referred to the SLPP as a bunch of political hustlers and opportunists, who hijacked the SLPP and consequently defeated continuity under Berewa. After winning 10 seats in the recently held parliamentary elections, Charles Margai reportedly wanted to consolidate those gains to his advantage in the 2012 elections. There is a school of thought that suggests that the likelihood for President Ernest Koroma to serve two five year terms in office is very strong , and since age is not in Margai’s favour it is very possible that Charles Margai may take the PMDC to the SLPP if the right price is paid. A senior SLPP executive however denied that they had not contacted Margai to switch over to the SLPP as the party was not short of material to lead them in the next elections. Some irate youths have reportedly threatened to quit the SLPP should Charles return to the fold as they see him as the person responsible for the party’s malaise."


Subject: Re: Hon. Charles Margai snubs SLPP
From: kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 14:57:16 02/07/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 205.148.53.200

Message:
Wishfull thinking. good riddance of bad rubbish.Let APC deal with him.


Subject: FODAY SANKOH AND COMPANY
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 12:59:09 02/07/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-114-169-98.hsd1.dc.comcast.net at 76.114.169.98

Message:
The editor of Awareness Times, Ms. Blyden, M.D., has been tied to the criminal and terrorist RUF organization. Without prejudging the issue, I ask: what was Dr. Blyden's role in the RUF? If she knew of the atrocities or, worse, aided the same, directly or indirectly, then her medical license, under her oath, must be revoked. I take no position on the issue of her nvolvement vel non. What are the facts? Alcole, please spare me the ugly refrain of "go to the library."


Subject: Re: FODAY SANKOH AND COMPANY
From: alcole
To: All
Date Posted: 16:31:06 02/07/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: uslec-66-43-153-180.cust.uslec.net at 66.43.153.180

Message:
Am not an historian, By trade I am a cobbler “a mender of bad soles ".


Subject: Re: FODAY SANKOH AND COMPANY
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 16:55:39 02/07/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: x4207254e.ip.e-nt.net at 66.7.37.78

Message:
So when it comes to what I guess is one of your own, you become a "mender of bad soles." Earlier, you dropped a dissertation on us on the history of Freetown. Very well: the issue is whether Sylvia Blyden, M.D. is a "bad sole?" Speak! Cobbler!


Subject: BORN AGAIN UMPIRE
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 11:49:21 02/07/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-114-169-98.hsd1.dc.comcast.net at 76.114.169.98

Message:
I hereby, herethrough, herein, by and through, in esse, inform his esteemed Moderator that I respectfully seek his permission to modify my "name". Henceforth, I shall log in as "Uneducated Bomber Umpire." This modification responds to "Nonsense's" well founded allegation that I am an "illiterate." On a serious note or less ironic riff, I have not found a European who can write as well as I, nor think as rigorously as I. Nota Bene: that does not mean such an opoto does not exist, only that I have not found one. Maybe, once I escape my Mabayla ghetto, and venture into the high class West End of Freetown or, if I can afford the podapoda fare, Lumley and its gated environs, I may bump into one or a proxy of the same: a SaLone writer who can write prose or verse that soothes the soul, who can think thoughts worth all the gold in the world.


Subject: Re: BORN AGAIN UMPIRE
From: Mahatma
To: All
Date Posted: 14:26:40 02/07/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-143-241-200.range86-143.btcentralplus.com at 86.143.241.200

Message:
Why the fear? I be;lieve you told me you hold a Ph.D in Philospy and a licensed law practitioner in the District of Columbia. Never be afraid or ashamed to corroborate statements you've previously stated. I have no hatred for you. I just wanted clarity in thoughts and writing. Please do not mention my wife. She is really upset from the unfounded and demeaning things you mused on her on this forum. take care and please no insults. If you do, I will formally register a complaint against you.


Subject: KABS, Mahatma, et al on Moh’m and Monikers.
From: Justice Jorgor
To: All
Date Posted: 20:22:19 02/07/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-170-113-84.dllstx.fios.verizon.net at 71.170.113.84

Message:
Since you realized that Umpire is not Moh’m Jalloh, I have not heard you apologize for your fallacious mindset. Only God knows the number of times you have pointed fingers at Moh’m when in actual fact he was innocent. It is amazing how many of you, having realized your erroneous ways, are still acting as if you did nothing wrong.

I had called on KABS to atone for his unfair treatment of the gentleman (Moh’m), but he chose to ignore me. Where is your decency, sir? Are you so proud that you lack the magnanimity and humility to admit fault? Or are you so myopic that you still believe in your dire action? Just because nobody is saying anything, except me, does not mean you should pretend all is well, or nobody noticed.

KABS, this unscrupulous action may well come back to hunt you. I still have regard and appreciation for you. Please put thing in perspective and reach out to Moh’m; he has been the object of unfair abuse, criticism, and ridicule. Common guys, do the right thing!


Subject: Re: KABS, Mahatma, et al on Moh’m and Monikers.
From: Get a life
To: All
Date Posted: 21:37:11 02/07/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-4577b27b.dyn.optonline.net at 69.119.178.123

Message:
How ba, you nar Mohm een peggy? Lef dis bellah bizness. You are too old to be a footlicker to someone who puts on his pants one leg at a time. Get a life, Sorie, and stop polluting the forum with rubbish.


Subject: Re: KABS, Mahatma, et al on Moh’m and Monikers.
From: Sorie
To: All
Date Posted: 01:09:50 02/08/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-170-113-84.dllstx.fios.verizon.net at 71.170.113.84

Message:
Nar you den sen? the porson wey den address nor answer yet, you don tot case. You are too old for this stupidity


Subject: Re: BORN AGAIN UMPIRE
From: saloneman
To: All
Date Posted: 15:15:45 02/07/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 66.23.15.6

Message:
YOU DON'T NEED TO BEG UMPIRE TO STOP INSULTING OR SAYING NEGATIVE THINGS ABOUT YOUR WIFE.YOU SHOULD BE MAN ENOUGH TO PUT A STOP TO UMPIRE BY TAKING THE APPROPRIATE ACTIONS.

THIS IS A CIVILISED WORLD AND NOT A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY, WERE GUYS DO A LOT OF ILLEGAL OR CRIMINAL THINGS AND GET AWAY WITH THEM.MAN IT IS A SHAME THAT YOU CAN'T PROTECT YOUR WIFE AGAINST INSULTS FROM UMPIRE.I THINK YOU NEED TO CONSULT A LAWYER FOR LEGAL ADVICES.

A WOMAN SHOULD BE RESPECTED.I READ ONE OF UMPIRE'S CONTRIBUTION IN WHICH, HE ALLEGED THAT YOUR WIFE HAD "SLEPT WITH MORE THAN 30 MEN".COMON MAN THIS IS YOUR WIFE AND A MOTHER OF YOUR KIDS.HOW WILL YOU FEEL IF YOUR KIDS READ THIS KIND OF WRITING ABOUT YOUR WIFE AND THEIR MOTHER?

UMPIRE I KNOW YOU REACT TO EVERY POSTINGS AND AT TIMES VIOLENTLY.BUT LOOK HERE, REASON A LITTLE BIT WITH ME OK.YOU WRITE VERY WELL AND YOU ENJOY WRITING.MAYBE YOU SPEND A LOT OF TIME READING DICTIONARIES AND BOOKS.YOU MIGHT BE A PH.D OR DOUBLE MASTERS DEGREES HOLDER, BUT YOU DON'T SEEM TO HAVE RESPECT FOR A WOMAN.DON'T FORGET YOU SLEPT IN A WOMAN'S WOMB FOR NINE MONTHS.

IF YOU SAY A MAN'S WIFE SLEPT WITH 30 MEN,THAT MAKES HER MORALLY INFERIOR RIGHT? WHAT ABOUT YOU "HOW MANY WOMEN YOU'VE SLEPT WITH IN THE PAST".DON'T ANSWER LET YOUR CONCIENCE SPEAKS TO YOU.

WHAT ABOUT FEMALE MEMBERS OF YOUR FAMILY,HOW WILL YOU FEEL FOR SOMEONE TO START POSTING ON THE INTERNET THE NUMBER OF MEN, FEMALE MEMBER OF YOUR FAMILY SAY YOUR...........HAVE BEEN SLEEPING WITH.

STOP,STOP,STOP AND THINK ABOUT IT WELL BEFORE YOU PUT YOUR FINGERS ON THE KEY BOARD,OR DISCUSS IT WITH YOUR WIFE,GIRLFRIENDS,SISTERS, OR ANY FEMALE YOU TRUST,THEY WILL HONESTLY TELL YOU, YOU CROSSED THE LINE.

Waiting for your respond in a civil way.


Subject: Re: BORN AGAIN UMPIRE
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 15:47:36 02/07/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: x4207254e.ip.e-nt.net at 66.7.37.78

Message:
Salone man, look: you know the score---one should not even go into the kitchen, if one knows its hot therein. Frankly, I don['t care about Western education; I'm pimping it, period. If you read most of my postings, you will notice a pattern: I never attack anyone personally, unless a nerd garners the gall to attack 'me'. Sometimes, depending on my mood, which is significantly influenced by my revenge on Europe (the Swedish sweet honey on the rocks and the money I make from pimping its educational cultural tradition), I back off. But there are times, and Mahatma-Foday created one such, when I have to defend my honor, especially after Elder Kabs, sub-rosa, told him to back off. Finally, Mahatma-Foday knows how to hire a lawyer; if he has not, I should think that should make you about whether.....


Subject: Re: BORN AGAIN UMPIRE
From: saloneman
To: All
Date Posted: 16:10:03 02/07/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 66.23.15.6

Message:
UMPIRE I DON'T WANT TO BE PART OF THE FIGHT BETWEEN YOU AND MAHATMA-FODAY.BUT LOOK HERE MAN,YOUR "BRAIN AND YOUR WRITINGS" ARE ASSET NOT ONLY TO SIERRA LEONE,BUT TO THE WHOLE WORLD.I HAVE COUPLE OF MANAGERS,ESPECIALLY FEMALE MANAGERS WHO ARE CURRENTLY DOING ENGLISH,LITERATURE,ETC TO NAME ONLY BUT FEW,AT GEORGE MASON UNIVERSITY,WHO RESPECT AND ADMIRE YOUR WRITINGS.THEY CAN'T WAIT TO MEET WITH YOU IN PERSON.

PLEASE KEEP UP THE GOOD WRITINGS AND WITH ALL DUE RESPECT I THOUGHT A LOT ABOUT YOUR REACTIONS TO MY EARLIER CRITIC,BEFORE POSTING IT. I KNEW IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.IF YOU LIKE,ADMIRE AND REPECT SOMEBODY,CRITISE THAT PERSON CONSTRUCTIVELY,THAT EXACTLY WHAT I WAS TRYING TO DO.

SAVE YOUR INTELLIGENCE FOR NATIONAL DEBATE AND OTHER ISSUES THAT WILL CONTINUE TO PUT YOU ON TOP OF THE WORLD.PLEASE STOP MENTIONING MAHATMA'S WIFE IN YOUR POSTINGS.IT DOES NOT MAKE YOU LOOK GOOD.

I AM NOT TRYING TO SAY YOU SHOULD NOT DEFEND YOURSELF THAT IS THE GOD GIVEN AND FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT OF EVERY MAN,BUT PLEASE LEAVE HIS WIFE AND KIDS OUT OF THIS.I DO RESPECT AND ADMIRE YOUR WRITINGS.YOU ARE GOOD.THANKS FOR YOUR CIVIL RESPONSE.


Subject: Re: BORN AGAIN UMPIRE
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 19:50:02 02/07/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-114-169-98.hsd1.dc.comcast.net at 76.114.169.98

Message:
Did you read my piece to Fen Plaba. I am in trouble, au langba. According to Fen Plaba, this forum "wins hands down." Hence, it appears Swedish may give up on me, since, as Fen Plaba, astutely put it, this forum is our crack. He talks about omolay; I say: crack, good crack, though. I think with people like you Sierra Leone may have a future. Look, I have been away for over 40 years. Did you read that? Forty years. Fen Plaba is right: we are a bunch of frustrated zillion miles away, Tuesday morning quarter backs, who probably nothing about the situation on the ground in Salone. Probably. Know nothing, probably, about the possibilities and constraints in the trenches. Yet, we model solutions! Uneducated fools, we are. But, "its all good." Infinitely better than a botched coup d'etat by eggheads. Right? FP? By the way, where the heck is POLITICAL. I should hope Doctor Sylvia Blyden has not hijacked you. Regarding my admirers at your University, I'll be at Ozie's tomorrow at 6, assuming Swedish cuts me loose. Of course, I know ..... is not going to be there, since he admits he is 8,000 miles away. But wisdom counsels prudence: the ghosts of Agba Satani, Highway and a host of stone cold raraymen will be there too, wallowing in the Omolay to which the African condition has reduced us.


Subject: Re: BORN AGAIN UMPIRE
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 15:06:47 02/07/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: x4207254e.ip.e-nt.net at 66.7.37.78

Message:
What part of "go eet yu long sleeve," don't you understand, Foday?


Subject: Re: BORN AGAIN UMPIRE
From: Referee
To: All
Date Posted: 13:02:53 02/07/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 165.155.200.85

Message:
O Umpire of the uncouth, bombastic uneducated Bomba brigade, how I froth at thy constipated verbosity!

I green-eye all you represent because you threaten my lofty abode in the ivory tower, with your wit, gab and loquacity that stops traffic and make publican and plebean take note and appreciate the brilliance beneath the grime.

I can't stand you for getting all that luscious Viking white cooing all over your Salone charcoal while mine only gets libidoed by evanescent silky princesses who romp the night and leave before the cock crows thrice, in the dawn.

So keep on pumping the juice on the forum even as I act as a 'hater' of your brash intellect. You're alright buddy. I will continue reading you but please, please...no more challenging my buddy Mahatma the Peaceful to the Fit-Yie Korna behind the forum.
Keep writing...and tittilating!


Subject: Re: BORN AGAIN UMPIRE
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 15:31:43 02/07/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: x4207254e.ip.e-nt.net at 66.7.37.78

Message:
Ironically, my Viking is a product of the material conditions mirrored in your miscegenative text, one, , given your expansive intellect, you ironically constructed: pagan rhetorical vigor (Rome)---your text up to the"... cock crows thrice....," a Christian topos. Sorry, eggheads never get any: they can't stand the "heat," construed here, of course, at a level of generality that only you, the fountain of wisdom and rhetorical vigor, can comprehend. Given my obvious raray constitution, given your impecable sabisman credentials, can understand why Foday refused to show up at Fit Yie Konah (not "korna", by the way). But being Ivory, yu too english bra. Accordingly, come spend some time with me in the land of nihilism, for you can sense, can't you, that I am beyond good and evil, to quote the Hun, Neitzsche. Incidentally, since Elder Kabs has not yet passed on my request, I'm still Umpire. Glory to Rome and the Church Fathers (the African Augustine, to begin with).


Subject: Rene Wadlow please get your facts right about freed slaves
From: alcole
To: All
Date Posted: 10:17:49 02/07/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 69.74.168.162

Message:

Wrong facts

Sierra Leone like Liberia had been founded by freed slaves. Liberia’s founders had been for the most part household slaves or artisans in the northeast states of the USA before being sent to Africa. Many could read and write and had participated in a "developed" country. Sierra Leone’s founders were recently freed slaves who were aboard ships taking them from Africa to the West Indies. The slave ships were stopped by the British Navy who controlled the West African coast. There were also slaves freed from slave forts along the coast who were waiting for ships. Although there were a few slaves from Canada and Jamaica, most of the freed slaves were not more educated than the tribes of Sierra Leone’s interior. They, nevertheless, reproduced the same pattern as Liberia: a coastal, detribalized group who took up trade and looked down upon the tribes of the interior. When Sierra Leone developed into a British colony, it was normal that the coastal population was first to benefit from education and joined English firms. The coastal population was also the first to create modern political parties on the eve of independence in 1961.


Subject: Re: Rene Wadlow please get your facts right about freed slaves
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 10:54:12 02/07/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-114-169-98.hsd1.dc.comcast.net at 76.114.169.98

Message:
Although I am not a historian, I am reasonably certain that it is not a historical fact that freed slaves "founded" Freetown. The following historical facts are amply uncontroversial: that certain "recaptured" or "freed" slaves, later named "Krios" (by whom, je ne sais pas), were "settled" by a cacaphony of British interests in Freetown. Moreover, it is a contemporary fact that Krios are a "tribe." Additionally, whether Krios "looked down" on the tribes of the interior or not is an undecidable historical issue. The historical evidence is not sufficiently vigorous to posit a determinate negative or affirmative judgment. Non liqued. Significantly, you erroneously assume, contrary to the historical facts, that "Freetown" was an uninhabited desert. The facts resist that assumption.


Subject: Re: Rene Wadlow please get your facts right about freed slaves
From: Deemdeen
To: All
Date Posted: 14:07:57 02/07/08 ()
Email Address: Deemdeen@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-68-33-37-252.hsd1.va.comcast.net at 68.33.37.252

Message:
Umpire,

Are you denying the fact that Krios or coastal people looked down on the people of the interior? Then you need to read history. For ages, one had to be a Krio to get into the civil service, get to medical school or even attend certain schools like Annie Walsh and the School of Nursing. Many so called country people had to adopt krio names just to make it to the Freetown society. Even today, the people of Freetown still feel superior to people in the provinces. When rebels were devastating the provinces, the go happy Freetown based NPRC was busy partying in Freetown. Unless Sierra Leoneans learn to respect the people of the interior, we will continue to suffer.

So yes, the Krios did look down on the Banguras, Contehs, Koroma, Kamaras, Kemokais, Senessies, ets. But their days are over. Looks like an upline man may be the next mayor of Freetown.


Subject: Re: Rene Wadlow please get your facts right about freed slaves
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 16:02:27 02/07/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: x4207254e.ip.e-nt.net at 66.7.37.78

Message:
I am neither negating nor affirming the assertion that Krios "looked down" on 'country men.' Major reason: it is not clear to me what is meant by 'look don.' If a mere freed slave "looks down" on you, look the other way, or "look up" to God, says I. Seriously, I think your point is that Krios discriminated against non-Krios residing in Freetown. Right? If that is your position, then lay the evidence down, unless you think that your position, although an empirical, not a formal ontological statement, is apodictic, i.e. doubting it affirms its truth, at the same time and in the same sense. Such propositions may be found in the formal sciences, but then they are mere tautologies. So, let's have a debate: how did Krios discriminate against non-Krios in Freetown?


Subject: Re: Rene Wadlow please get your facts right about freed slaves
From: Soja
To: All
Date Posted: 14:25:22 02/07/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 66.23.15.6

Message:
........"NPRC WAS BUSY PARTYING IN FREETOWN"......

DEEMDEEN YOUR STATEMENT IS FALSE,AN INJUSTICE TO HISTORY AND AN EMBARASSMENT TO YOU.NPRC FOUGHT THE WAR TO THE BEST OF THEIR ABILITY.WHY DO YOU HAVE TO BRING NPRC INTO YOUR ARGUMENT?IS TI BECAUSE CAPT.STRASSER IS A KRIO AND HE HEADED THE NPRC?IF IT WERE NOT FOR NPRC FODAY SANKOH MIGHT HAVE BEEN YOUR PRESIDENT BY NOW.WHAT EVER YOU HAVE AGAINST NPRC,YOU BETTER GET OVER IT.


Subject: Re: Rene Wadlow please get your facts right about freed slaves
From: Bai Bureh
To: All
Date Posted: 10:18:12 02/08/08 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: dator5678.161.gbgsd.se at 62.88.180.78

Message:
Point of correction:Strasser is a Lokko to the core! He only grew up in a Krio-dominated area called Upper Allen Town aka Orogu.


Subject: Re: Rene Wadlow please get your facts right about freed slaves
From: fmansaray
To: All
Date Posted: 10:24:25 02/07/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-172-251-180.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net at 71.172.251.180

Message:
So what are the facts?.


Subject: Re: Rene Wadlow please get your facts right about freed slaves
From: alcole
To: All
Date Posted: 12:00:32 02/07/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 69.74.168.162

Message:
Go to the Library.


Subject: Re: Rene Wadlow please get your facts right about freed slaves
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 12:27:54 02/07/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-114-169-98.hsd1.dc.comcast.net at 76.114.169.98

Message:
Your response to fmansaray was uncouth. She asked for the facts, and your response, "[g]o to the Library (sic). (sic). is intellectually dishonest. Assuming you have visited the library, either you read the wrong books or you misunderstood the right books, and since a book cannot protest that you have misunderstood it, your hubris is understandable. There is no need to trek to the library. My posting addressed to you reasonably demonstrates that your mastery of the historical facts is, at best, sophomoric. Not fmansaray, but you, need to "go to the library." And perhaps, a course in the mores of intellectual debate, may be required.


Subject: Re: Rene Wadlow please get your facts right about freed slaves
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 21:19:13 02/07/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-114-169-98.hsd1.dc.comcast.net at 76.114.169.98

Message:
There you go again: instead of engaging the issue, you plunge into the ocean of unfounded invectives.

Even Cantor's transfinite number cannot capture the intense hatred I have for "educated" nobodies. Logically, if you have been following my postings, since I am a recovering tribalholic, happy nihilist ( since I pimp Western values), and since Krios are creatures of the West, with a little help from a decadent African fifth column of slave dealers, you cannot, in good faith, say ("aver," thus speaks an educated mouth) that I "hate" Krios. Besides, there are a few hour glass krios---girls--- with whom a "hook up" would not be undesirable. Kill the thought that I am thinking of Doctor Blyden: bury it!

Suppose, arguendo, that my uneducated education is mediately attributable to Krios. What follows? Nothing: for Krios owe their "uneducated education" to the Brits. And the Brits? To the Irish. Bede was Irish. And the Irish? To the Roman Imperialists. And the Roman Imperium? To Hellenism? And Hellenism? To the Athenian Greeks. And the Athenian Greeks? To the Egyptians, according to the Jewish Bible and its second order interpreters, which, under my lights, would include the 'authors' of the Christian Bible. And the Egyptians?....To God, if you are a believer, or to the vast Nothing that sustains human existence, if you are an unbeliever or, in my book, an atheist, philosophical or otherwise. Poor human reason: shivering in a vast universe of ignorance, it claims wisdom. Was Socrates sick of life? He did commit suicide, did he not. At least, according to 'Plato,' that obscurantist of the first order.

You are born, you live well or bad, and you die. No education can transcend these foundational facts, facts accessible to even super illiterates like me.

Glory to the uneducated, for they shall inherit wisdom. Glory to those who recognize that as Africans they have been cheated by history; sad that the payback will not be realized in our generation. Therefore, glory to eternity, where 'virgins' await us or the caring and loving 'hand' of the third 'person' of the Trinity or the nothing of nihilism.

I am sick of philosophy, rhetoric, law, the formal sciences of logic, whether first or nth order; come to me, therfore: oh sweet and tender Viking; my soul has been decimated by books,books, books---so-called education. Would that I were born and raised as an illiterate. Blessed are those who know not a book; blessed are my ancestors who never knew a book; glory to earthly ignorance.

Behold: education has made Africans sick, suckers of an even sicker Europe. Glory to all the know nothings of this problematic and ever, infinitely problematizable world.


Subject: Re: Rene Wadlow please get your facts right about freed slaves
From: alcole
To: All
Date Posted: 16:52:59 02/07/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 69.74.168.162

Message:
Thanks, am not an historian and I was questioning her facts, if you have any thing against the krios that your personal problems. Don’t hate them we are all the same and keep your education to yourself. educated fools!!!!!


Subject: RECOMMENDATION TO BAN ALPHA SAIDU FOR GOOD
From: FMANSARAY
To: All
Date Posted: 10:04:54 02/07/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-172-251-180.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net at 71.172.251.180

Message:
This message is for Alpha Saidu and and his supporters. As a word of advice, please stay away from the Forum of Patriot and Cocorioko News Network.

Kabbs and I have carefully listened to all your allegations. At this point, I wish to advise you to voluntarily desist from posting or making an attempt to contribute to Cocorioko news network and the Forum of Patriot.

You may have access to thousands of computers to wreck havoc but we are ready to resist any attempt by you or any enemies of progress.

The Rev. Phone call in December was a gesture of goodwill, to give you a second chance to create a first impression. I guess it was not worth it. I have requested that our affiliate, Forum of Patriot to permanently ban you from all participation because of your malicious thoughts and actions towards Kabbs, this news agency and other forum participants.

I also want to let you know that we have host of IP addresses collected that we can authoritatively confirmed belongs to you. If you can cross the line and attack my mother, shows how low you self esteem have become. You certainly need a lot of prayers.


Please no need to call me back. You have exhausted all options and we feel it is not worth the headache.

Have a good life.


Subject: Re: RECOMMENDATION TO BAN ALPHA SAIDU FOR GOOD
From: ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA
To: All
Date Posted: 22:18:57 02/07/08 ()
Email Address: SAIDUBANGSO@AOL.COM
Entered From: c-69-140-129-75.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.140.129.75

Message:
Foday, I am not surprised at you, because what you are speaks so loud that I or no sense person will never hear what you say. I only pray that you will understand what this statement means.
I will go by the assurance that the Rev. Kabs-Kanu gave me a long time ago which is that "cocorioko newspaper and its forum does not belong to you(Foday Mansaray) or the APC party". Therefore, you do not have the authority to ban me or any other person from posting on this forum.
As a sign of my maturity I will not descend to the level in which I will engage you in a war of words, you do not worth my precious time. I have better things and people to deal with. I will not reply to any more of your posts. If you wish to talk to me, feel free to call me or when you see me in public please, please and please come talk to me.
May the God of peace be with and direct you in the right path.


Subject: Re: RECOMMENDATION TO BAN ALPHA SAIDU FOR GOOD
From: ramatu
To: All
Date Posted: 20:19:07 02/07/08 ()
Email Address: wilbeforcebikers@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-66-56-76-178.hsd1.ga.comcast.net at 66.56.76.178

Message:
is this a public forum? your recomendation to ban alpha saidu is completely wrong. Please review your recomendation. kabs we expect so much from you and cocorioko "DIS NAR DISGRASE TO APC AND A BIG SLAP TO EBK who believe in freedom of speech. We for learn for disagree for agree, SIERRA LEONE DON FAIL IF NAR DIS KIND OF ATTITUDE U WAN TAKE GO NAR SIERRA LEONE. WITHOUT SAIDU COCORIOKO AS A FORUM IS DEAD


Subject: THINKS THAT MAKES YOU GO HMMMM!
From: KING LOGGY
To: All
Date Posted: 04:43:18 02/07/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 144.226.173.69

Message:
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Subject: Re: THINKS THAT MAKES YOU GO HMMMM!
From: Three Minit Man
To: All
Date Posted: 12:54:38 02/07/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 198.85.57.54

Message:
Loggy nar dat gbay-gbay day u Mende wef cook for u ehn u pickin dem last night? Tell we if dem gbay-gbay leg bin sweet?


Subject: Re: THINKS THAT MAKES YOU GO HMMMM!
From: KING LOGGY
To: All
Date Posted: 16:14:39 02/07/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 164.106.71.233

Message:
Loggy nar dat gbay-gbay day u
Mende wef cook for u ehn u pickin
dem last night?
----------------------------------------
Oh my God yes.....the best gift to mankind since sex!
Try eating it raw or rare, you'll be happy you did.


Subject: Re: THINKS THAT MAKES YOU GO HMMMM!
From: KING LOGGY
To: All
Date Posted: 04:54:32 02/07/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 144.226.173.69

Message:
Now that's it!
I meant THINGS THAT MAKES YOU GO.......OH WELL...FINGER LICKIN' GOOD!


Subject: Re: THINKS THAT MAKES YOU GO HMMMM!
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 05:08:36 02/07/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-114-169-98.hsd1.dc.comcast.net at 76.114.169.98

Message:
Editorial failure: In my illiterate opinion, the Moderator should have issued an al3rt on this distasteful posting, in the interest of editorial finesse. I should think that the posting would appeal to the depraved ethos of the cannibals of Taylor and Sankoh.


Subject: Re: THINKS THAT MAKES YOU GO HMMMM!
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 05:31:02 02/07/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-4577b27b.dyn.optonline.net at 69.119.178.123

Message:
I think it is simply a picture of fried Agboloh!


Subject: Re: THINKS THAT MAKES YOU GO HMMMM!
From: Mensa
To: All
Date Posted: 06:45:18 02/07/08 ()
Email Address: unikad5@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 213.217.51.179

Message:
To be more precise, it's called "Gbay-Gbay" in Mende. Is King Loggy a Mende by tribe? As kids, we used to go with the impression that Mendes eat "Gbay-Gbay", [No offence meant!]


Subject: Re: THINKS THAT MAKES YOU GO HMMMM!
From: Mende boy
To: All
Date Posted: 08:24:18 02/07/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: h212.76.89.75.ip.alltel.net at 75.89.76.212

Message:
I'm mende by origin, and I can assure you that,I have not eating nor seen any of my relatives eating frogs.To tell you the truth, the only time I even heard about the "Gbay-Gbay" thing was when I was in Temne line, up-north.


Subject: Re: THINKS THAT MAKES YOU GO HMMMM!
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 09:20:47 02/07/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-114-169-98.hsd1.dc.comcast.net at 76.114.169.98

Message:
The issue does not attach to the identity of the objects in the "pic". Even far more remote is the tribalization or attempted tribalization of the issue. The gravaman of the problematic is the arguably offensive nature of the "pic." Assume that the objects photographed are frogs. En passant, the French allegedly eat frogs: to each his own, I suppose. However, in the States some people keep frogs as pets. To such people, the "pic" constitutes animal cruelty, and there are laws prohibiting the same. This is not the usual ironic give and take we deploy in this forum: look, Kabs: this is a serious breach of protocol. Remove the odious posting!


Subject: Re: THINKS THAT MAKES YOU GO HMMMM!
From: Referee
To: All
Date Posted: 12:34:31 02/07/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 165.155.200.85

Message:
C'mon Umpire, why are you so troubled over fried frogs? Do U eat chicken, goat, beef, venison? Unless you are a member of PETA and a vegetarian to boot, I see no reason why you should show such gastronomical outrage over such scrunchious delight. How ba Sweden nor dae eat Gbay-gbay? Nar for begin date Sakorzy een tity dem O!


Subject: Re: THINKS THAT MAKES YOU GO HMMMM!
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 13:17:39 02/07/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-114-169-98.hsd1.dc.comcast.net at 76.114.169.98

Message:
Really, Bra Ref you maybe right. But come on: the stuff should not have been published. You wouldn't have posted it. I know: you are a man of exquisite taste. Regarding Sweden, I don't know. My sweet Swedish babe, a surgeon, and a virgin when I met her (are you there Phen Plaba?) is at work, and by the way, she gives me her check---blessed are the meek, illiterates---. To the best of my knowledge and experience Swedish girls, or rigorously, my girl, are good at @@@@@@@@@@, not preparing frog dishes. Bra. Ref. any advice on how to prevent a MALATA from issuing from this interaction?


Subject: Re: THINKS THAT MAKES YOU GO HMMMM!
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 13:31:37 02/07/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 165.155.200.90

Message:
"My sweet Swedish babe, a surgeon, and a virgin when I met her (are you there Phen Plaba?) is at work, and by the way, she gives me her check---blessed are the meek, illiterates---.".....Umpire.

Umpire, how do I get a ticket to Sweden, right away? They have women like that in the world? SWEDEN, HERE I COME SUPER PRONTO!


Subject: Re: THINKS THAT MAKES YOU GO HMMMM!
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 16:14:28 02/07/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: x4207254e.ip.e-nt.net at 66.7.37.78

Message:
Fen Plaba, Fen Plaba: pray, pray, pray! Good things come to those who wait for God's time. Amen? Reverend? There is no "pronto" in these matters; the slow shuffle and slow hand bring the bacon home. Hang in there, Bro. Who knows? Maybe you'll get Diana, for I suspect that you'd rather be alone, than be with a Salon woman with their jeans at bed time. Jeans at bed time, ai bo unasef, una pasmack o!


Subject: Re: THINKS THAT MAKES YOU GO HMMMM!
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 17:28:38 02/07/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-4577b27b.dyn.optonline.net at 69.119.178.123

Message:
About the SLOW HAND Mirr-Mirr business, the Pointer Sisters seem to agree with you.
So many frustrated damsels have protested within the raging infernoes of the sheets..."How U dae sweat so ba", "U sef U dae rush O", "Take am easy", "Ki Thaeh-gbeh, OrKaibah!". Some actually became platoon commanders directing traffic: Left, right, forward, backward, go, come, whoosh!


Subject: Re: THINKS THAT MAKES YOU GO HMMMM!
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 21:36:03 02/07/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-114-169-98.hsd1.dc.comcast.net at 76.114.169.98

Message:
Man, go fen am! And, do it right! I am inclined to think POLITICAL is in Sweden; so sick is he of nattydreads or fake hair, even fake blonde hair or, worse, fake malatas (thanks to "bleach": sabis man secret---the knuckles never become opotorized). Ous kain trouble dis? Bra, ah blame you small for introducing this amorous problematic.


Subject: Re: THINKS THAT MAKES YOU GO HMMMM!
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 05:28:14 02/07/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-114-169-98.hsd1.dc.comcast.net at 76.114.169.98

Message:
Free legal opinion: it is arguable, under US law, that should someone suffer emotional and physical distress caused in fact and prximately by this toxic posting, the failure of the Moderator of this non-profit entity to issue an appropriate warning or al3rt may make it liable in an action sounding in negligent infliction of emotional distress and, should the plaintiff be married, and the marriage becomes "stressed" because of the founding cause of action, a symphony of causes of action best left to Justice Thomas, and if certain reports in this forum are credible, lawyer Margai.


Subject: US election appeal to Sierra Leonean community
From: Erica Adams
To: All
Date Posted: 22:58:38 02/06/08 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
Entered From: adsl-074-185-005-235.sip.clt.bellsouth.net at 74.185.5.235

Message:
I would like to take a moment to make an appeal to those who are US citizens. Please take time to exercise your right to vote. If the primary is yet to take place in your state, please vote. Also, yesterday I heard reports of irregularities in some states. Please make sure that you are registered. People were complaining that they were being turned away from from voting stations they had voted at for years and being told they weren't registered. Also, please be aware that those who are registered as independents will not be allowed to vote in the primaries. You have to be registered as a democrat or republican. This is a historical election and we all need to make sure our votes are counted.


Subject: Re: US election appeal to Sierra Leonean community
From: KING LOGGY
To: All
Date Posted: 00:29:23 02/07/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 144.226.173.69

Message:
"Also, please be aware that those
who are registered as independents
will not be allowed to vote in the
primaries."
-----------------------------------------
I was going with the impression that this is not a standard requirement for all states in the union.


Subject: Re: US election appeal to Sierra Leonean community
From: Erica Adams
To: All
Date Posted: 02:10:50 02/07/08 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
Entered From: adsl-074-185-005-235.sip.clt.bellsouth.net at 74.185.5.235

Message:
From reports I heard yesterday, I got the impression that this is across the board. You can check with your local elections commission for clarity.


Subject: Re: US election appeal to Sierra Leonean community
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 09:53:59 02/07/08 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
Entered From: cache-dtc-ag14.proxy.aol.com at 205.188.117.142

Message:
Each US state and each party have their own regulations as to who may vote in party primaries.

1. In some states one can only vote in the primaries of the party of one's registration.

2. In some others, one may vote in the primaries of either party regardless of which party one is registered.

3. In still other states, only independent registered voters are allowed to vote in the primaries of either party.

4. In yet still other states, independents are not allowed to vote in primaries at all.

And finally,

5. A party may allow independents to vote in its primaries while the other party would not permit such voting in its primaries - in the same state.

6. The place to get objective opinions on voters' legal rights are in town halls and at offices of the League of Women Voters.

7. Further, Registers of Voters are open for the registration of voters five or six days a week year-round.

8. Lastly, the important things about the current elections is the underlying reasons behind voters' preferences:

"A large majority of people are today voting for the candidate they perceive will mostly likely pursue the national interests in the best interests of Americans regardless of race, gender, age or family connections." Please compare this attitude with the enduring tribal voting pattern in our country.

I now join Ms. Adams to support her call that Sierra Leoneans with US citizenship should always register and vote in all primaries and elections in their area as well as encourage their colleagues to do likewise.

Additionally, I support the moves by a select group of SL US citizens to actively participate and contribute to the campaigns of their choices - be it for the local Dog Catcher to the election for President of the US and everything in-between. Thank you. - JL


Subject: Re: US election appeal to Sierra Leonean community
From: Erica Adams
To: All
Date Posted: 15:25:31 02/07/08 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
Entered From: adsl-074-185-005-235.sip.clt.bellsouth.net at 74.185.5.235

Message:
Thank you Mr. Leigh. I'm not the most politically astute so when I heard about the issue of independents in some states on Tuesday, I wanted to share it with others who could learn on the day they go to vote in the primaries that they are ineligible.


Subject: Re: US election appeal to Sierra Leonean community
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 17:00:36 02/07/08 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
Entered From: cache-dtc-ag14.proxy.aol.com at 205.188.117.142

Message:
Dear Ms. Adams:

Never mind about astuteness. Your contributions in this forum are very helpful to others and I. We are grateful. Lets pray that some others will learn for your seriousness of purpose. - JL


Subject: Re: US election appeal to Sierra Leonean community
From: KING LOGGY
To: All
Date Posted: 02:18:39 02/07/08 ()
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"In Virginia, voters are free to
decide on Election Day which party's
primary they will participate in."

By Bill Turque and Anne E. Kornblut
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, February 7, 2008; Page A01
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Please read second to last paragraph.


Subject: DIAMONDS ARE NOT FOREVER ....FOR US!
From: Fen Plaba!
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Date Posted: 21:32:06 02/06/08 ()
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Just saw this article about the possibility of establishing a diamond cutting and polishing industry in Africa. Words? Action? Time will tell.


Subject: Re: DIAMONDS ARE NOT FOREVER ....FOR US!
From: Mahatma
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Date Posted: 13:56:21 02/08/08 ()
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If such plants are to be installed - are we able to maintain servicing? Can we manufacture the machinery? Who manufactures them will still hold us to ransom. We cannot beat them to it. They will produce the machinery and we will buy it from them yet unable to maintain them.

the real issue is for us to have engineers who can make such machinery and train others to keep up with maintenance. Aside these, the west will have a field day. take a look at the neglected tractors we have in our hometowns. Even to replace a tyre will take up to six months. We have to address the engineering problem first or else they will milk us dry. Where will we sell our polish diamonds - to them I believe. They will look elsewhere if we want to be too clever. They are survivors and that is how their world is.


Subject: Re: DIAMONDS ARE NOT FOREVER ....FOR US!
From: youngstudent08@yahoo.com
To: All
Date Posted: 12:55:44 02/07/08 ()
Email Address: youngstudent08@yahoo.com
Entered From: gate3-norfolk.nmci.navy.mil at 138.162.0.43

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i hope its not all talk. I wander how much it would take to start such a company in salone. maybe we should not wait for them to bring it. i am sure we have a lot of millionaires in other country that would love to invest in somethign like that. The more salone gets stable and whatever government is in power promotes stability. the more their is a chance of that happening.


Subject: I support the ban on Alpha Saidu Bangura
From: KABS KANU
To: All
Date Posted: 20:58:36 02/06/08 ()
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Entered From: ac8738aa.ipt.aol.com at 172.135.56.170

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Ladies and Gentlemen,

Today,Alpha Saidu Bangura, a regular forumite , called me to inform me ina very bitter and threatening tone that he has been banned from the forum. I did not ban him .Instead of waiting for me to investigate and take action, he called Mr. Foday Mansaray and complained to him too .In the cause of their discussion, Alpha Saidu made many misrepresentations designed to create problems as he has been doing on this forum for other people. After I heard some of the blatantly false and dastardly things Alpha Saidu said,I believed whoever banned him took the right decision .

Alpha Said's aim since he surfaced on the internet has not been to participate in debates or promote serious thought about Sierra Leone, but perpetually to make very dangerous allegations against other people


When Alpha Saidu first published an article in COCORIOKO a year ago, the CEO of COCORIOKO, Mr.Alex Mansaray , called me and warned me in a very serious and bitter tone to beware of Alpha Saidu. Mr.Mansaray said most people in Georgia were mad with Alpha Saidu and were shunning him because he is very dangerous young man who fabricates stories and loves to hurt other people and set them up with lies .If you don't have your wits about you, Alpha Saidu can cause your demise in this world.

We all remember the story about how Alpha Saidu took rebels to the home of his benefactor and helper, Pa. Iscandari during the rebel invasion of Freetown in 1999 . When the rebels knocked on the door, the old man asked who was it and he heard Alpha Saidu's voice clear and loud : "Uncle, nar me ....".If Mr. Iscandari had not been smart to look out of the window first,he could have been dead by now .He saw armed rebels standing at his door and just by God's grace escaped through the backdoor.

I was one of those who did not believe the story at first but after everything I have seen Alpha Saidu do and say against Mr. Allieu Iscandari on this forum, I want to believe that story.


MANY TIMES ALPHA SAIDU HAD BEEN FOUND OUT IN DELIBERATE LIES AND WICKED FABRICATION AGAINST INNOCENT PEOPLE

1.Allieu Iscandari

Any man with a brain who reads this forum on a regular basis knows for sure that Mr. Allieu Iscandari has suffered the worst kind of lies and vendetta from Mr. Alpha Saidu. Alpha Saidu,I learnt , was brought to the United States by Mr.Iscandari.In addition to that, when he was destitute in Sierra Leone , the Iscandari family took him in and offered him food and lodging . It was a decision that Mr.Iscandari and his family would ever regret. You have all read all the damaging lies that Mr.Alpha Saidu has told on this forum about Mr. Iscandari .Some of his allegations against Allieu are very, very damaging and cruel--Like writing recently here about the paternity of Mr. Iscandari and his sister. I knew Allieu's sister in college and we were close because she worked with me at the Propaganda Ministry of the Fourah Bay College Students' Union government which I headed and I know for a fact that she was Mr.Iscandari's daughter.But for Alpha Saidu, the story is different. He has also narrated many dangerous things on this forum about the Iscandaris that I don't want to repeat here.

IN SO DOING , Alpha Saidu Bangura is setting COCORIOKO up for a huge lawsuit. Some of the things he writes about Allieu are so blatantly false that they could be the subject of hefty lawsuits even for the forum that published them.

2. Mr.Jalloh

Alpha Saidu always talks about Allah but those of you who have read his posts on this forum or know him personally know that it is just a front for wicked plots against people.Alpha Saidu has a way of lying woefully and if you are not smart he will get you into trouble. I wil give you few examples .

-LAST YEAR during the elections campaign , Alpha Saidu wrote an article in which he quoted Mr. Jalloh as saying he was dissociating himself from the APC because of surreptitious things Mr. Ernest Koroma did when they worked together.

When that article was published, I got calls from all over the U.S. and Sierra Leone from furious APC supporters asking that the article be removed because it was patently false and that Mr.Jalloh did not say say those things against their leader.INTERESTINGLY, ALPHA SAIDU CONTINUED TO INSIST THAT MR. JALLOH SAID SO AND HE EVEN GAVE ME MR. JALLOH'S NUMBER TO CALL HIM AND CONFIRM. WHEN I CALLED MR. JALLOH, HE WAS SO MAD .HE VEHEMENTLY DENIED EVER TALKING TO ALPHA SAIDU ! ! ! !

I had to take down the article and apologise to aggrieved APC supporters. The question you would want to ask is if Mr.Jalloh did not talk to Apha Saidu Bangura , why did he write an aticle quoting him, especially one having such dangerous allegations against the APC Leader ?

Many times, Mr. Iscandari and other people have called me to threaten lawsuits against COCORIOKO because of blatantly false, provocative and malicious articles against them on the forum by Alpha Saidu..

COCORIOKO is a non-profit newspaper and we cannot afford a lawsuit because of Alpha Saidu.

I want to call on our readers not to mind anything that Alpha Saidu goes to other forums to write about me, Allieu Iscandari , COCORIOKO and other members of this forum. If he does, challenge him with all these facts about why he was banned from this forum.


Subject: Re: I support the ban on Alpha Saidu Bangura
From: foday mansaray
To: All
Date Posted: 10:03:23 02/07/08 ()
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Entered From: pool-71-172-251-180.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net at 71.172.251.180

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This message is for Alpha Saidu and and his supporters. As a word of advice, please stay away from the Forum of Patriot and Cocorioko News Network.

Kabbs and I have carefully listened to all your allegations. At this point, I wish to advise you to voluntarily desist from posting or making an attempt to contribute to Cocorioko news network and the Forum of Patriot.

You may have access to thousands of computers to wreck havoc but we are ready to resist any attempt by you or any enemies of progress.

The Rev. Phone call in December was a gesture of goodwill, to give you a second chance to create a first impression. I guess it was not worth it. I have requested that our affiliate, Forum of Patriot to permanently ban you from all participation because of your malicious thoughts and actions towards Kabbs, this news agency and other forum participants.

I also want to let you know that we have host of IP addresses collected that we can authoritatively confirmed belongs to you. If you can cross the line and attack my mother, shows how low you self esteem have become. You certainly need a lot of prayers.


Please no need to call me back. You have exhausted all options and we feel it is not worth the headache.

Have a good life.


Subject: Re: I support the ban on Alpha Saidu Bangura
From: AWOKO
To: All
Date Posted: 22:35:20 02/06/08 ()
Email Address: ABU@AOL.COM
Entered From: pool-71-178-26-132.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 71.178.26.132

Message:
MR KANU ARE YOU ONLY LEARNING THE TRUTH ABOUT THIS MAN NOW? SAIDU IS A BAD MAN. WHEN HE OWES HE DOES NOT PAY THEN WILL SPREAD NASTY THINGS ABOUT YOU'ONE TIME HE HAS TO PAY ONE HAJA COLE SOME MONEY FOR SOME AFRICANAS WHEN THE HAJA REPORTED HIM TO ONE OF HIS BROTHER IN LAUREL , WHEN HE WAS CONFRONTED, THIS MAN OF GOD SAIDU WITH HIGH MORAL TO JUDGE OTHERS YOU ALL WILL BE SURPRISED AT THE UNPRINTABLE WORDS THAT CAME OUT OF HIS MOUTH .THIS IS A BAD MAN


Subject: Re: I support the ban on Alpha Saidu Bangura
From: Georgia
To: All
Date Posted: 22:43:46 02/06/08 ()
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kabskanu, Alpha saidu is like that.Sorry you learned your lesson late.


Subject: Re: I support the ban on Alpha Saidu Bangura
From: KABS KANU
To: All
Date Posted: 23:28:38 02/06/08 ()
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Nobody knowingly banned Alpha Saidu Bangura. I did not ban him and the moderator said he did not ban him.He must have written under a different name and that IP was what was banned. But is that any reason why he should spread false stories about me ?


Subject: Re: I support the ban on Alpha Saidu Bangura
From: Gonos
To: All
Date Posted: 09:11:59 02/07/08 ()
Email Address: Gonos@yahoo.com
Entered From: 79-66-23-110.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com at 79.66.23.110

Message:
Kabs, my only question is why are you only acting now? Is it because he has strted attacking you? I am sure Mr Iscandri and Mr Jalloh can defend themselves if they need to. I find it hypocritical that you are only venting your anger now. As far as I can see, you people are having a 'street/junction fight' and a man of your stature should know better. Whether he was banned by you or someone else, you dont need to justify your actions by reminding us of the unsavoury things he said about Messrs Jalloh and Iscandri. As a man of the collar, you should rise above his stupidity and behave in a more responsible manner by not fanning the flames of gossip or congosa.

I hope you have not forgotten the phrase 'blessed are the peacemakers, for theirs is the kingdom of God'.

I expect you to delete this message, but I am sure that it will be seen by a few people before you do.

Please PRETEND YOU ARE A MAN OF GOD


Subject: Re: I support the ban on Alpha Saidu Bangura
From: SNAKE
To: All
Date Posted: 03:14:04 02/07/08 ()
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Entered From: cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198

Message:
BEWARE KABBS OF THOSE WHO SPEAK THE WORD OF GOD BUT ARE EVIL. BEHOLD YOU HAVE SEEN THE DEVIL IN THIS MAN AND I AM SURE GLAD THAT YOU HAVE COME TO THE REALIZATION THAT THIS FELLAH IS A SNAKE WHO HAS BITTEN ALL WHO HAVE DONE HIM GOOD. HE COMES WITH A FORKED TONGUE, BUT SPITS VENOM AT THE EARLIES OPPORTUNITY. REMEMBER WHAT HE SAID ABOUT ERNEST KOROMAS PATERNITY?

THIS GUY IS SO HATED IN THE COMMUNITY THAT THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT CAN TOLERATE ARE THE RELIGIOUS HYPOCRITES LIKE HIMSELF. WALLAHI HELL IS GOING TO BE FULL OF PEOPLE LIKE HIM. HE HAS BEEN SHUNNED BY THE ISCANDARU FAMILY, AND HE IS LOOKING FOR PEOPLE TO GO AN APOLOGISE TO THEM ON HIS BEHALF BUT COULDNT FIND ANY. THE MAN EVEN BOASTED THAT HE WOULD DISRESPECT ISCANDARUS MOTHER. IT APPEARS THAT HE DOES NOT HAVE ANY RESPECT FOR HIS OWN MOTHER THAS WHY HE WANTS TO DIS SOMEONE ELSES MOTHER. HE HAS RUN OUT OF COMPUTERS AND NAMES TO USE TO INSULT PEOPLE. DEM KIN SAY COW DAE WAKA NAR TREET DAT SHE ITE MEMBA SAY NAR DE TREET EE DAY DORTY, BUT IM NOR NO SA SAY NAR IM YONE WASE DAY DORTY. HE HAS BURNED ALL OF HIS BRIDGES AND SOON HE WILL HAVE NO WHERE TO TURN AND THEN HE WILL BE AT THE MERCY OF GOD AND MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON HIM THEN


Subject: Re: I support the ban on Alpha Saidu Bangura
From: SLPP man
To: All
Date Posted: 06:59:22 02/07/08 ()
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Entered From: at 71.250.218.196

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Alpha Saidu is a very dangerous fellow,as Mr. Kabs Kanu wrote. The way you know is he is always passing word to set up people. Wherever you have Alpha Saidu, there is always conflicts.


Subject: TWO MORE FEATURES ADDED
From: MESSAGER
To: All
Date Posted: 18:08:44 02/06/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 207.108.136.237

Message:
As promised the last time, we have added to features for users on africanvideoproduction.com

1. DISCUSSION FORUM: users can create groups for them selves and send private messages to each other while blogging on the forum like any regular forum and many more features.

2. LIVE CHAT: You can chat live with other people online. All you need is to register a monicker name. It's getting closer to final release. So check it out and comments.

KABS: This is not an advertisement. This is just a public information, the same way I am informing others to visit cocorioko.


Subject: TAX ES IN SIERRA LEONE
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 17:44:01 02/06/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-114-169-98.hsd1.dc.comcast.net at 76.114.169.98

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What structure regulates the entity that collects taxes in Sierra Leone? And what structure regulates that entity? If it is the Bank of Sierra Leone, then remember Bangura. Does anyone know the drama that led to Bangura's "death"? Just historical curiosity.


Subject: KRIOS AND SIERRA LEONE
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 16:31:03 02/06/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-114-169-98.hsd1.dc.comcast.net at 76.114.169.98

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According to several Krio "intellectuals," (I'm talking heavy weights here), Krios were instrumental in launching "Western Civilization" in Sierra Leone. To them we owe our inclusion in the British zone, raining innumerable blessings on us: first, 'education.' That opened the doors to Cambridge and Oxford: therein were taught the ideals of Western Civilization: the nordic look (our 'native women' had to 'fry' their "kinky" hair; obviously, we couldn't make our eyes blue, but we could don suits in the bonecracking heat of the African sun). Undeniably, Krios were instrumental in the institutionalization of these glorious goodies from the West. Depending on one's ideological posture, Krios are, assuming that the averments made above are histroically justifiable, either the best or the worst tribe in Sierra Leone or, stating the matter at a higher level of generality or abstraction, UEBERMENSCHEN ODER UNTERMENSCHEN.


Subject: RESPECTFUL DEMAND OF AN EXPLANATION
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 15:04:08 02/06/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-114-169-98.hsd1.dc.comcast.net at 76.114.169.98

Message:
Respectfully, I hereby and herethrough demand an explanation of why my postings, THE BEST TRIBE: KRIOS and VARIATIONS ON A KRIO FUGUE IN C MINOR. OP.1 were mysteriously deleted. Perhaps, the Moderator needs to look into this deadly serious matter. Respectfully, an inquiry and explanation would be appreciated.


Subject: Re: RESPECTFUL DEMAND OF AN EXPLANATION
From: Stop this nonsense
To: All
Date Posted: 15:11:57 02/06/08 ()
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Umpire,
Stop polluting this beautiful forum with your thick rubbish which you keep misunderstanding for educated writing.


Subject: Re: RESPECTFUL DEMAND OF AN EXPLANATION
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 15:31:12 02/06/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-114-169-98.hsd1.dc.comcast.net at 76.114.169.98

Message:
Your posting was utterly unresponsive to the content of my two postings: PHILOLOGICAL QUESTION and RESPECTFUL DEMAND FOR AN EXPLANATION. Whether I "misunderstanding" my writing as "educated writing" or whether my writing is "thick rubbish" is patently irrelevant to the issue, isn't? More: I never claimed to be "educated," whatever that monstrous locution may denote in your lexicographic understanding. Accordingly, I renew the thematic: why were the postings THE BEST TRIBE: KRIOS and VARIATIONS OF A FUGUE IN C MINOR. OP. 1 DE-POSTED. En passant, I detest 'educated' folks, especially 'educated' Africans and Opotos. Review my postings for the evidential and inferential foundations of the previous sentence.


Subject: Re: RESPECTFUL DEMAND OF AN EXPLANATION
From: Empty Barrel
To: All
Date Posted: 19:28:46 02/06/08 ()
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This umpire is a brain-dead idiot wallowing in the illusion that he is educcated. The irony is that umpire lacks education. Look at his writings and see the numerous tautologies. Umpire reminds me of my village teacher, teacher Mattia. Umpirre thinks his nonsensical use of jaw-breaking and meaningless words is a measure of the level of education. Truth is, Umpire is illiterate but in denial of the fact. That denial and illusion is causing him to post all of his stupid messages, thinking he is impressing someone....Empty barrels make the most noise and umpire is one such barrel.


Subject: Re: RESPECTFUL DEMAND OF AN EXPLANATION
From: Empty Barrel
To: All
Date Posted: 19:27:43 02/06/08 ()
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This umpire is a brain-dead idiot wallowing in the illusion that he is educcated. The irony is that umpire lacks education. Look at his writings and see the numerous tautologies. Umpire reminds me of my village teacher, teacher Mattia. Umpirre thinks his nonsensical use of the jaw-breaking and meaningless words is a measure of the level of education. Truth is, Umpire is illiterate but in denial of the fact. That denial and illusion is causing him to post all of his stupid messages, thinking he is impressing someone....Empty barrels make the most noise and umpire is one such barrel.


Subject: Re: RESPECTFUL DEMAND OF AN EXPLANATION
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 04:22:13 02/07/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-114-169-98.hsd1.dc.comcast.net at 76.114.169.98

Message:
Indeed, I am a "brain-dead idiot." While you are free to posit that determination, you are not free, under the rules that make you an "educated" person, from providing evidence to reasonably convince responsible readers that your bomb, "brain-dead idiot" has objective validity. Ditto, Bra: for my lack of 'education' and the numerous tautologies that allegedly permeate "[my writings]" and my nonsensical use of the (sic) jaw-breaking and meaningless words...", which, in your 'mind', I construe to be a "...measure of the level of education...." Again, Tupit, where is the evidence that even remotely corroborates your evidently unreasoned judgments? The master illiterate hereby challenges you to provide the evidence. I have admitted in numerous postings, this posting inclusive, that am an illiterate. Thus, it is patently, unequivocally, perspicuously, evidently, crisply, manifestly, gblan, gblan uncontroversial, peeping from the abyss of my illiteracy, that your self-characterization attaches with the precision of a Platonic ironic spear. Even in the abyss of my illiterate Lebenswelt, I know that the making of unsupported and, perhaps, unsupportable JUDGMENTS is fundamentally not a sign of gnoseological irresponsibility (the irresponsibility of theoretical reason), but a far greater faux pas: MORAL PERVERSION. Even on the mountain top of my illiterate burden, I re-cognize that I need not impress any mere being fashioned from clay. Better, infinitely best to essay to impress God. Can I get an Amen on that?

So, Empty Barrel, go in peace. And in peace, ask "teacher Mattia" to forgive you. If you can dis your teacher, then walayi, God cannot escape your suffocating net. All praise and glory to God. In His infinite mercy, may he plant the seed of humility in your soul, devoid of the most basic of human values: responsiblity. Should you now, as I suspect you would, characterize God as an empty "illusion," then, I should think that as a "slick savant," you'd be inclined to pat yourself on your back on your cerebral sophistication. Atheist! Pardon me, I need to go: your type makes my stomach sick. Education: way yu money, Bra! If you are so educated, which I am construing in this context as "smart", show me your house in Potomac or Georgetown, and your Bentley. But, even that would not "impress" me: for in my eyes, before God you a creature lost to Satan: envy is your idol. Envy prevented you from posting your evidence for your irresponsible and wild allegations, envy induced you to disrespect your "village teacher," and, alas, envy will take you to the final destination of your soul: the fires of Hell.


Subject: PHILOLOGICAL QUESTION
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 14:48:17 02/06/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-114-169-98.hsd1.dc.comcast.net at 76.114.169.98

Message:
I posted two thought provocative pieces about ten minutes ago: KRIOS: THE BEST TRIBE and VARIATIONS ON A KRIO FUGUE IN C MINOR. I know they posted: I saw them gblan. Riting naw get foot o!


Subject: Man dem day
From: KLA
To: All
Date Posted: 14:36:06 02/06/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 164.82.85.3

Message:
"Idriss Déby, Chad's president, faced the gravest threat to his 17-year rule this weekend when rebels stormed the capital and fought their way to the gates of his palace. But within 24 hours the man dubbed the "cowboy of the sands" appeared to have regained the initiative, personally ordering counter-attacks as the guerrillas fell back."....FT

Chadian strongman Idriss Deby seems to have fought his way out of almost certain defeat. One certainly could not discount the help he was able to squeeze out of a reluctant, some say inexperienced French leadership under President Sarkozy.

Deby seems to have gained from the timing of this, some say Khartoum sponsored attack, designed to thwart the coming deployment of a joint AU/UN peace keeping force.

Wrong move OMAR BASHIR! The UN was PREPARED this time.

" On Monday, the Security Council issued a statement condemning the rebel assault on Chad's capital, N'Djamena and urging Member States to support the Chadian government. The speed at which the Security Council responded to this threat underscores the distinction between defending a sovereign government from rebel attack and responding to a genocide perpetrated by a government on its own people.

Even though the Security Council's statement had been toned down to omit references to military force or to Sudanese involvement in the attack, it implicitly gave France, which maintains 1,400 troops in Chad, the green light to defend President Idriss Deby's government. French president Nicolas Sarkozy explicitly articulated his country's willingness to intervene militarily, asserting yesterday that "if France must do its duty, it will do so." In the tragic history of the Darfur genocide, by contrast, no country has so boldly proclaimed its readiness to pony up military support -- or even peacekeepers or equipment -- in the face of opposition from the Sudanese government.

This dynamic -- whereby it is easier to protect a head of state than millions of civilian victims -- is in a sense a natural byproduct of the state sovereignty system under which the UN operates. Thus, a UN-authorized coalition invaded Iraq to defend the sovereign state of Kuwait from Saddam Hussein's invasion in 1991, but the international community had only dithered when the despot gassed Kurds in his own country three years earlier. And while President Deby can feel secure after the rebels' retreat and the prospect of French support, Darfurians still await the batch of helicopters for the much-delayed peacekeeping force that has been slowly and falteringly cobbled together to protect them.

It is unreasonable to expect that countries would leap at the opportunity to send military forces into a sovereign territory that overtly objects to their presence. To achieve the ultimate goal of balancing these two imperatives -- respecting sovereign governments and protecting their populations -- countries must embrace the emerging "Responsibility to Protect" (or R2P) doctrine, which creates powerful incentives for states to protect their own people and outlines a contingency scheme in the case of state failure. The UN has theoretically adopted this bold new framework for international relations, but its support thus far has been merely hortatory. Member States must step up and demonstrate their commitment to R2P, so that innocent civilians do not continue to languish unprotected, while beleaguered governments reap the benefits of their sovereign status."..UN

Wow!! Some would ask, How relevant is any of this to Sierra Leone? Remember UNAMSIL? YENGA...maybe!!

Dictator Idriss Deby has wasted no time pulling all the stops to victory. He even gets a visit from the French DEFENCE MINISTER!

Wonder how the world is being built?

TSTM


Subject: Re: Man dem day
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 17:09:44 02/06/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-114-169-98.hsd1.dc.comcast.net at 76.114.169.98

Message:
The "French" are still in Africa? Incredible. Equally incredible is the fact that after looting the diamonds from Kono, the Bits are still in Sierra Leone, not as tourists or spies, but as a military backup of the SOVERIEGN GOVERNMENT OF THE REPUBLIC OF SIERRA LEONE. Fake sovereignty, don't you agree?


Subject: Re: Man dem day
From: KLA
To: All
Date Posted: 12:14:59 02/07/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 164.82.85.3

Message:
Umpire,

"The French are still in Africa?"...Oui mon ami! The French presence in Africa is, must we say Beaucoup!

"A majority of the world's French-speaking population lives in Africa. According to the 2007 report by the Organisation internationale de la Francophonie, an estimated 115 million African people spread across 31 francophone African countries can speak French either as a first or second language.[17]"...wiki

Fragile and conflict ridden FRANCOPHONE africans, are simply dancing to the rhythmic beats of their French PATRONS.

"It is remarkable that none of those in Britain who talk about African dictatorship and kleptocracy seem aware that Idi Amin came to power in Uganda through British covert action, and that Nigeria's generals were supported and manipulated from 1960 onwards in support of Britain's oil interests. It is amusing, too, to find the Telegraph and the Daily Mail - which just a generation ago supported Ian Smith's Rhodesia and South African apartheid - now so concerned about human rights in Zimbabwe. The tragedy of Mugabe and others is that they learned too well from the British how to govern without real popular consent, and how to make the law serve ruthless private interest. The real appetite of the west for democracy in Africa is less than it seems. We talk about the Congo tragedy without mentioning that it was a British statesman, Alec Douglas-Home, who agreed with the US president in 1960 that Patrice Lumumba, its elected leader, needed to "fall into a river of crocodiles".....

Sierra lone folks must understand the true meaning of Independence! Afrikans must however,be bold in demanding compensation for DEBTS OWED.

Ah yerri say some of dem gems way day nah di BRITISH CROWN JEWELS COLLECTION nah sa lone dem commot? Where they paid for?

Ever wonder how the world was built?

TSTM


Subject: VARIATIONS OF A KRIO FUGUE IN C MINOR. OP. 1
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 14:20:39 02/06/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-114-169-98.hsd1.dc.comcast.net at 76.114.169.98

Message:
If I were a Krio, I would be intensely interested in the definitve determination of my original tribe; my real tribe: Temne, Fula, Yoruba, Ibo, and so on without ednd---ad nauseum; wonder, I would, about whether my 'ancestors' hail from Bushdom or Timbuktu; wonder too, whether my 'ancestors' were captured or sold? But that raises the question of the manly fecundity of my ancestors, doesn't it? Dump that wonder, then. Danger lurks here. Above all, I'll ponder the sober question: Am I better off or worse off, genealogically, that is, than "African-Americans" or "African-Brazilians" and all the other hyphenated 'Africans' in the West. Strike the wind section, please; this stuff weighs too heavy on the spirit!


Subject: THE BEST TRIBE: KRIOS.
From: umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 13:58:53 02/06/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-114-169-98.hsd1.dc.comcast.net at 76.114.169.98

Message:
The best tribe in Sierra Leone? Krios, hands down. By and through their mediation, we boneheaded "country men" acquired some provincially accented version of the King's English; acquired the habit of wearing suits in bone melting hot weather; acquired access to Oxford and Cambridge, imbibing thereat the British habit of thievery and the tight upper lip as an appropriate 'cover'; acquired the Western dehumanization---objectification--- of women, valuing them on the basis of the length and color of their hair, the narrowness of their noses, the colors of their eyes, their slim and sleek hour glass body types. Accordingly, the best tribe made us trash: from the best came the worst. Uebermenschen und untermenschen: Krios?


Subject: GIBRIL WILSON was not born in Sierra Leone
From: Amadu
To: All
Date Posted: 09:46:48 02/06/08 ()
Email Address: amadubarrie@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-72-64-99-44.dllstx.fios.verizon.net at 72.64.99.44

Message:
I would just like cocorioko to know that GIBRIL WILSON of the New York giants was born November 12, 1981 in San Jose, CA not Sierra Leone as speculated by cocorioko. I love the sport and I would have loved for him to be one of us. BJ Tucker and Waddieu Williams are Sierra Leoneans. Just is just a correction.


Subject: Re: GIBRIL WILSON was not born in Sierra Leone
From: Kalokoh
To: All
Date Posted: 06:44:29 02/07/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cs181155254.pp.htv.fi at 82.181.155.254

Message:
The gentleman is a born Sierra Leonean.There is always a tendency of the west to distort the origin of a gifted black person.Try the spock search engine.

Cheers
Kalokoh


Subject: Re: GIBRIL WILSON was not born in Sierra Leone
From: POLITICAL
To: All
Date Posted: 14:59:56 02/06/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 207.108.136.237

Message:
I think I want to agree with you that Gibril Wilson was not born in Sierra Leone. I have search all over the internet and all my searches display a consistent result. California. So who are these guys that claim this guy is a sierra leonean? One thing that is indisputable, the guy is a super star and if that is the case his birth place will never be hidden and so far only some sierra leoneans, especially cocorioko that made this claim. Forget about wikipedia. I have search over 50 sites and they all point to CA. Get is over and cocorioko should remove the article from their site. It's a big myth until someone bring concrete proof.


Subject: Re: GIBRIL WILSON was not born in Sierra Leone
From: SOLO DE BOMBA NO 2
To: All
Date Posted: 09:39:29 02/07/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: adsl-69-232-205-42.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net at 69.232.205.42

Message:
I HAVE LIVED IN SAN JOSE SINCE 1985 AND I KNOW GOBRIL LIKE THE BACK OF MY PALM. HE WAS BROUGHT TO THE U S BY A GUY CALLED WUDI BANGURA AND HIS THEN WIFE ISATU WUDI.
HE INDEED WAS BORN IN SIERRA LEONE. HE WAS ABOUT 6 TO 7 YEARS OLD WHEN HE WAS BROUGHT TO SAN JOSE. HIS OLDER BROTHER AND,MAYBE, MANAGER, SHERIFF, WILL ATTEST TO THAT.


Subject: Re: GIBRIL WILSON was not born in Sierra Leone
From: Amadu
To: All
Date Posted: 17:56:23 02/06/08 ()
Email Address: amadubarrie@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-72-64-99-44.dllstx.fios.verizon.net at 72.64.99.44

Message:
I was just trying to point out the fact as stated on ESPN and the NFL website. I just pointed this out because cocorioko is a source of information for many so it would be a good idea to get the facts straight. Let it go guys so no one get in trouble. I think any hard working person who is able and willing to contribute to Sierra Leone is more than welcome to do so. God Bless Sierra Leone and the rest of the world.


Subject: Re: GIBRIL WILSON was not born in Sierra Leone
From: alcole
To: All
Date Posted: 16:42:32 02/06/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: uslec-66-43-153-180.cust.uslec.net at 66.43.153.180

Message:
Gibril came to the state and lived with his older brothers Yousef and Sherif Kamara at Orgden Ave in the Bronx in the late 80's to early 90's and Sherif moved with him to CA. The internet does not always carrying true facts; please don’t use the internet as your source.Yousef Kamara lives in the Maryland Area.


Subject: Re: GIBRIL WILSON was not born in Sierra Leone
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 16:52:31 02/06/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-114-169-98.hsd1.dc.comcast.net at 76.114.169.98

Message:
What has come over you, POLITCAL? Let's assume that the man is a superstar and hails from Rokiamp. We want his money: that's what matters in the States, right? Hunch: If he resettles all the amputees, then the question of his pedigree would be settled with catholicity.


Subject: Re: GIBRIL WILSON was not born in Sierra Leone
From: alcole
To: All
Date Posted: 14:09:49 02/06/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: uslec-66-43-153-180.cust.uslec.net at 66.43.153.180

Message:
My brother, Gibril was born in Sierra Leone, Krutown road and is mother is Haja 30, his dad passed away last year in the Gambia and he is from kissy village (Donald Wilson)


Subject: Re: GIBRIL WILSON was not born in Sierra Leone
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 16:45:37 02/06/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-114-169-98.hsd1.dc.comcast.net at 76.114.169.98

Message:
With all due respect, you should have tendered your last name. Now, we can resolve the problem: if he is your brother, being a superstar, I should think, he can easily get his secretary to send a posting to this forum, attaching thereto, the name and number of his coach. Thereafter, the sober editors of this blessed forum, to vindicate this paper's credibility, should investigate the matter, and issue a white paper or a memorandum of findings to this forum. If the subject is a Sierra Leonean, then we may ask him to supply funds to clean up Kroobay and Mabayla. And that's only for starters: he should construct a Gibril Wilson Center in New York, DC, and California and,(forgive me) perhaps Atlanta. After that, he should take care of us here in DC: we cab drivers, for the meter is about to put us in the poor house.


Subject: Re: GIBRIL WILSON was not born in Sierra Leone
From: Fact
To: All
Date Posted: 12:54:18 02/06/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-4575eca0.dyn.optonline.net at 69.117.236.160

Message:
Amadu,

The entry in Wikipedia that you are going by is wrong. Someone may have done the editing wrongly, since for quite a long time Freetown was the entry that Wikipedia carried. Gibril was born in Freetown. This is a fact. I have met him a couple of times in New York. He sometimes shows up at Salone parties in New York with guys that he knew in Freetown.


Subject: Re: GIBRIL WILSON was not born in Sierra Leone
From: Lameh Gblah
To: All
Date Posted: 12:42:30 02/06/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cpc5-lewi6-0-0-cust721.bmly.cable.ntl.com at 86.6.154.210

Message:

Hi Folks,
I am surprised that you are saying that Gibril Wilson is not a Sierra Leonean. I met him in sierra leone last april with his mum & some of his relatives clebrating his achievements with some friends including Toby of east end Lions and many others at the national stadium and they even invited his childhood friend whom he welcome with warm embrace. He was born at Krootown road at Andrew street to be precise and his mum is haja nana his sister is in London called Kadi and he left sierra leone at the age of seven . Please check your facts .


Subject: Re: GIBRIL WILSON was not born in Sierra Leone
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 13:38:38 02/06/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-114-169-98.hsd1.dc.comcast.net at 76.114.169.98

Message:
This is not even a historical question: the man is a contemporary. There are more pressing matters than the determination of the national origin of a football player. Please call Management at the NY Giants organizataion to determine the man's national origin; spare us the burden of reading about this infinitely boring topic. Personally, I don't care about 'football,' and I really don't care from whence the gentleman hails. Sierra Leone needs efficient farmers, plumbers, builders, dog catchers, prostitute catchers; above all tribalholics eliminators. Soccer players? Perhaps. 'Football' players? The question answers itself.


Subject: Re: GIBRIL WILSON was not born in Sierra Leone
From: Jack
To: All
Date Posted: 13:46:51 02/06/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: static-70-20-197-79.phil.east.verizon.net at 70.20.197.79

Message:
You are the man. I can't say much 'cos you said it all. Bravo.


Subject: Re: GIBRIL WILSON was not born in Sierra Leone
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 14:38:18 02/06/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-114-169-98.hsd1.dc.comcast.net at 76.114.169.98

Message:
No, no, a thousand times no: YOU ARE THE MAN, FOR HE WHO RECOGNIZES THE TRUTH IS WISER than the proponent of truth: I am a mere rhapsode, drunk with the violent inspiration of the spirit. Elder Kabs knows my pain. O,these words that 'I' utter, children of pain imponderable; and yet, they will be yellow leaves in the morrow: a cycle of the eternal return, sampling Nietzsche, in which my soul twists and turns in a harmony of all emotions and drives. Poor me! Would that I was born and raised as an illiterate; would that I was not born at all into a world in which even the "ugly" 'Americans' laugh at me, me qua African. But for this forum, 'my' words will kill me. Are you there POLITICAL? Jealous? Maybe, knowing how rich you are, you took a quick trip to Sweden.


Subject: Jacob Sax Conteh - Ai Bo!
From: Sam
To: All
Date Posted: 09:04:46 02/06/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-72-74-216-176.bstnma.east.verizon.net at 72.74.216.176

Message:
I read the opening paragraphs about your wife's near miss and being that is was so early in the day, I'm thinking do I want to click on this and read such sad news? I did anyway and thankfully your wife is okay (sympathies to the Barrie family for their loss.)

I am writing this b/c I know you are a regular Cocorioko contributor..Try to not "tease" us with sensational headlines. I know that was not your intention, but first after seeing the headline, I thought your wife died in SL and you were unable to make it, then I read the teaser paragraph that showed on the front page and I thought, uh man, she was changing her tire and got hit. Again thankfully, neither scenario was the case. Go easy on your readers next time.

I think you should take the opportunity to write to your mayor and roads department (if it's a highway, the state might be responsible) to get them to do something about safety (be nice about it.) If accidents keep happening in one spot, obviously something is wrong and since obviously there is a high number of Sierra Leoneans in the neighborhood and they are suffering from this as well, Sa Leoneans down there should spur the govt into action.


Subject: where is the salone OBAMA or RObert Kennedy?
From: change rules
To: All
Date Posted: 06:11:06 02/06/08 ()
Email Address: changerules@yahoo.com
Entered From: gate4-norfolk.nmci.navy.mil at 138.162.0.44

Message:
It seizes to amaze me how our politicians all seem to be the same. they promise change but they all offer the same thing. where are our great leaders whom would unite our country for good despite ethnicity? I pray to God that he send us someone that is selfless. WHom would inspire our people that we may not only chant "yes we can" but that we might one day be a great power in africa and the rest of the world like Japan used to be. I know we have a lot of smart brothers and sisters back home. I say as SIerra leoneans lets challenge ourselves to take on one student and serve to mentor him or her. How about an organization that offers mentoring with no political afiliation and never endorses any candidate when election comes? WHat do you all think?


Subject: Re: where is the salone OBAMA or RObert Kennedy?
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 17:32:56 02/06/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-114-169-98.hsd1.dc.comcast.net at 76.114.169.98

Message:
Only "the second coming" will change politicians. Generally, politicians, under the doctrine of "the political party," are pimps; the people, ...@@@. If Jesus allegedly left Caesar alone, no reasonable person should rely on the promises of politicians. Was it not that ace aetheist Kwame Nkrumah who advised Africans to seek "the political Kingdom" first? And this, while his fingers were in cookie jar. I say: get your bread and butter first, and if a politician stands in your way, you know what to do.


Subject: I am afraid for salone
From: Ishmael Yillah
To: All
Date Posted: 21:10:15 02/05/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-96-231-125-137.washdc.east.verizon.net at 96.231.125.137

Message:
I am astute supporter of Bai koroma, but i think his friends have highjacked the government. There is currently no rule of law and police boss is not doing anything to project the integrity of our country.
If mr. koroma dont becarefull, he would be worst than momoh.
i am afriad!!!!!!!!


Subject: Re: I am afraid for salone
From: Nah 4 bia
To: All
Date Posted: 21:47:23 02/06/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-76-106-80-14.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 76.106.80.14

Message:
Ishmael, sounds like you think in english and write in krio. Poor guy !So confused.


Subject: WELCOME BACK BRA ENVIABLE!
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 17:46:41 02/05/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-4577b27b.dyn.optonline.net at 69.119.178.123

Message:
It was Gumbay time in the Fen Plaba household when I saw Bra Enviable's posting....after a damned long time! You see some of us are nuts about the great Son of the Moa. Whether you agree with him or not, the Bra's cogency and sober-mindedness scintillate and make fans of us.

There are many worthy forumites, too numerous to name, all pumping up the debate on the forum, battling with ideas and occasionally inviting one another to 'take it outside the forum to Fityie Kornah'. But there is only one Enviable and it's always good to see his posts.


Subject: Re: WELCOME BACK BRA ENVIABLE!
From: BRA ENVIABLE
To: All
Date Posted: 19:55:55 02/05/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-mtc-ah10.proxy.aol.com at 64.12.117.202

Message:
Orlangba Fen Plaba, tenki for the welcome. I had to rush to East Africa in order to whisk my six-year-old daughter out of harm's way. My ex-sweetheart works as an expatriate in Kenya. The gbose-gbose in that country moved her to Addis Ababa, where she is now stationed. We agreed that the young six-year-old of Kailahun paternal origins should be brought back to the United States. I therefore rushed to Addis Ababa to get my little baby, and thanks to God, she will be with me in the ATL until her mum ends her East African stint. Once again, thank you, Bra Fen Plaba. We are a family indeed!


Subject: Re: WELCOME BACK BRA ENVIABLE!
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 08:12:59 02/06/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-4577b27b.dyn.optonline.net at 69.119.178.123

Message:
My regards to the lil' princess. God bless.


Subject: Re: WELCOME BACK BRA ENVIABLE!
From: Kalos
To: All
Date Posted: 07:47:06 02/06/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 151.200.189.180

Message:
Welcome back. I heard former President Kabba is part of the UN delegation trying to bring lasting peace to our brothers and sisters in Kenya. Any productive role from him?


Subject: Super Bowl
From: Gerald Cole
To: All
Date Posted: 13:30:56 02/05/08 ()
Email Address: olushola364@msn.com
Entered From: uslec-66-43-153-180.cust.uslec.net at 66.43.153.180

Message:
Guys, do you know that Gibril Donald Wilson of the New York Giants was born in Sierra Leone? he came to the USA when he was 6yrs and was sent to CA to live with his aunt. He is the first Sierra Leonean to take part in a major sport event in America. We are proud of him. His place of birth in wikpedia is wrong.


Subject: Did PMDC Leader Steals Money
From: Sheku Kallon
To: All
Date Posted: 13:29:02 02/05/08 ()
Email Address: shekukal@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 170.249.64.2

Message:
Check out the story of how a PMDC leader embezzled funds meant for the muslim community.


Subject: University scholarships for all over-17 virgins in SL
From: Kalos
To: All
Date Posted: 12:08:20 02/05/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 151.200.189.180

Message:
I just read a very interesting article that states:

"Girls who have not lost virginity are to be given scholarships up to university level. It has become extremely difficult to find young women and girls who are virgins in a society with poor moral values and unbridled promiscuity".

I like the proposal, but would also like to include boys. I wonder how many boys and girls would qualify for these scholarships.


Subject: Re: University scholarships for all over-17 virgins in SL
From: Alfred S. Cole
To: All
Date Posted: 13:09:11 02/06/08 ()
Email Address: alfcoles2120@hotmail.com
Entered From: c-71-197-99-220.hsd1.ca.comcast.net at 71.197.99.220

Message:
What an interesting advert!! But my question is, HOW YOU EXPECT DEN GIRLS FOR QUALIFY WHEN DEN BIG BRA NOR GO HELP DEM WITHOUT DEN NOR LAYDON FOR DEM?

The girls need the latest cellphones their parents cannot afford; they need to go to school with lunch cash in the school bags their parents cannot afford either (if they can, not on daily basis). Our girls have endless lists of needs that need to be met and those lists are funded by the BRAS with cash. In some cases, the homes of these girls are financed and fed by the very BRAS. The cash flow is inadequate and is only available with the BRAS. So our girls go for the CASH and will go for it anywhere it is hiding.

The girls need to fund their extra-curricular activities and to stay on top of daily events. The big BRAS who, like the girls themselves, who have no iota of decent moral values and self-respect, would decide to sleep with the age mates their daughters, so to say.

Our boys are the errand boys to these girls although some of the boys are just as equally worse- off in their behaviours and sexual lust.

In as much as it will be hard to find girls by your standard, does not mean they are not there in Freetown let alone in the country. There are still many who can apply for the scholarships. The sad thing will be that, when they would have enetered the universities, they will be chased by the lecturers who need them to serve their immoral sexual lust before they can make passing grades. They will not be safe in the universities either. They will be at the mercies of the lecturers and students who will be at cut-throat competitions. Don't you know that our society is sick and needs cure? God have mercy!


Subject: Re: University scholarships for all over-17 virgins in SL
From: Erica Adams
To: All
Date Posted: 22:42:23 02/06/08 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
Entered From: adsl-074-185-005-235.sip.clt.bellsouth.net at 74.185.5.235

Message:
This is an interesting observation because from what you wrote, I'm wondering where are the parents of these girls you are describing. My daughter is in her last year of high school here in the US where I have seen kids with cellphones in elementary school. We just gave her a cellphone for Christmas in December since she is finishing up high school and preparing for college in the fall. She has had summer jobs and her own income, but we didn't allow her to have a cellphone until we felt she was ready for one. There are things she may want but ultimately we are the parents and we make the final decision. If girls are getting these gifts from men and taking them home, then the parents have turned over their parental responsibilities and are allowing their children to run wild. The latest and the newest are just temporary but an education lasts a lifetime and that's the priority.


Subject: A JOKE ABOUT CHASTITY BELTS!
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 12:34:11 02/05/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 165.155.200.85

Message:
All the good knights were leaving for the Crusades.

One knight told his best friend - "My bride is without doubt one of the most beautiful women in the world. It would be a terrible waste if no man could have her. Therefore, as my best and most trusted friend, I am leaving you the key to her chastity belt to use should I not return from the Crusade."

The company of knights were only a mile or so out of town when they noticed a cloud of dust approaching.

Thinking it might be an important message from the town the column halted.

A horseman approached. It was the knight's best friend.

"Hey, you gave me the wrong key!!"

From Jokes.net


Subject: Re: University scholarships for all over-17 virgins in SL
From: RUBBER DUCK
To: All
Date Posted: 12:32:03 02/05/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host81-157-214-46.range81-157.btcentralplus.com at 81.157.214.46

Message:
Kalos, I am at a loss here, How the hell are they going to prove who is a virgin or not, this beats me perhaps they already have a male tester.


Subject: Re: University scholarships for all over-17 virgins in SL
From: Kalos
To: All
Date Posted: 12:45:34 02/05/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 151.200.189.180

Message:
That is a great observation, RUBBER DUCK. Our resident professor Fen Plaba has a very interesting take on this issue that may answer your question.


Subject: Re: University scholarships for all over-17 virgins in SL
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 12:24:55 02/05/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 165.155.200.85

Message:
Very interesting. They would maintain their virginity until they got to college before defoliation by the college professors. Lati Hyde go sweet O!

Also I hear that ther are very good doctors in Freetown who specialize in hymenoplasty (repairing the violated hymen or "revirgination"). Borbor, nar tin go happin nar Salone!

The idlers who came up with this brainwave should also decide the type of virgin they are lookong for. I read that some of the kids from conservative christian homes in the States abstain from vagina sex but violate other orifices.
I wonder who the virginity inspector is gonna be.


Subject: Re: University scholarships for all over-17 virgins in SL
From: nico
To: All
Date Posted: 14:56:03 02/05/08 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
Entered From: 82-45-226-138.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.45.226.138

Message:
A scholarship offered not on the basis of intelligence but for preserving the virginity of girls is the most barmy idea ever conceived. What is happening to the people of Sierra Leone. This once great nation that produced some of the best brains and thinkers has been reduced to crappy solutions to a serious health risk.

Now let me examine the premise behind this madness. It says that girls who keep their virginity to certain period, will be rewarded with Scholarsip. It also presupposes that virgins, with no sexual experience, are free from HIV, ignoring transmission from birth.

The ultimate objective is to prevent the spread of HIV. Now this is where the premise did not square up with the intended objective. And let me tell you why.

Victoral Johnson is a 19 year old virgin. She applied for the virginity scholarship to study at FBC. Ah! I am having problem in understanding this. How can the sponsors of the virginity scholarship prove Victoral's virginity.

But let us assumed victoral is a virgin and that she is awarded the scholarship on 20 July 08. On the 21 July 08, a day after her award was approved, Victoral lost her virginity to a suger daddy and when tested she had contracted HIV as a result of that encounter.

If we award virginity scholarship, what about those who are not vigins but gifted to pursue academic studies yet cannot afford tuition fees. Beside what about those who could not go to college or further education who are virgins.

So what is the sponsor behind this nonsense, trying to achieve, is it to encourage girls education or promote health education of the targetted virgins? If it is promoting health education by providing incentives of scholarship to virgin, then sex in inevitable. Education and awareness of HIV is more credible line of policy than this gimmick.


Subject: Re: University scholarships for all over-17 virgins in SL
From: Kalos
To: All
Date Posted: 12:34:44 02/05/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 151.200.189.180

Message:
Fen Plaba, here you go again. I am unable to contain any laughter left in me after reading your vivid and provocative response. I just don't understand how you coin your phrases...........

You completely disintegrate what I thought was a viable proposal.


Subject: Re: University scholarships for all over-17 virgins in SL
From: Rubbish Rubbish
To: All
Date Posted: 08:01:16 02/06/08 ()
Email Address: langowa@yahoo.com
Entered From: proxy4.wlink.com.np at 202.79.62.14

Message:
What is the importance of being a virgin. We have more serious things to deal with rather than checking the personal lives of women. In fact this smells of gender bias. Since there is no way to check virginity of men, then I think an idea like this is nonsense. we are all Sierra Leoneans and we have very serious issues to think about at this time. Virginity is not a criteria on education. In fact we prefer the non-virgins as they have more experience in dealing with men and taking care of themselves.


Subject: Re: University scholarships for all over-17 virgins in SL
From: Gabbage
To: All
Date Posted: 12:42:00 02/06/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 151.200.189.180

Message:
Did you read the full article as reported by Cocorioko Newspaper? Karpu sense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Subject: State House Baby
From: FM
To: All
Date Posted: 11:59:17 02/05/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-129-123-77.range86-129.btcentralplus.com at 86.129.123.77

Message:
Could someone tell me what is this state house baby all about. It has been featuring in various articles lately.


Subject: Re: State House Baby
From: TRUTH
To: All
Date Posted: 12:52:59 02/05/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 151.200.189.180

Message:
State house “baby” are the alleged concubines of our great president. It helps our leader to relax and plan the future of our country. Do you have a problem with that? Ernest na man!!!! Bill Clinton na boy pikin!!!!

Our president continues to be very productive, we are not interested on his private life.


Subject: PRESDENT KOROMA'S SILENCE OVER YENGA IS TROUBLING
From: BRA ENVIABLE
To: All
Date Posted: 10:42:54 02/05/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
I am a Sierra Leonean with a strong sense of irredentism. The Guinean occupation of Yenga continues to stand as a shameful act of military molestation that is yet to be opposed by the victim. Since the victimizer is a neighbor, Freetown is at least obliged to communicate its disgust before the attacker hungers for more territories to seize. Unfortunately, the victim in this case sits as if paralyzed, thus encouraging the attacker to become more bold as an encroacher. Guinea has since added more villages to Yenga, and as Conakry's acquisitions grow, further acts of military rape cannot be ruled out. The few voices calling for a reply to the Guinean provocations are hushed by the usual selflessness in Sierra Leoneans that never fails to choose betrayal over nationalism. One does not have to be a militarist to feel violated by a poacher. In place of all the shrilled election promises to do something about Yenga is silence, a kind of silence that beckons Guinea-Conakry to scrounge for more territorial gains at Sierra Leone's expense.

What has the government done within the diplomatic arena to bring Yenga into the news? Yenga is not a West African Golan Heights needed to serve as Guinea's early warning system. Guinea's security concerns ceased to be legitimate after the restoration of peace in Sierra Leone. At the moment at least, Ernest Koroma enjoys the luster of being seen as a duly elected president. The president can turn that diplomatic sheen into a useful tool to attract attention, and indeed sympathy, in ways that will shame Guinea into disgorging its loot. Freetown can commence its publicity campaign by expelling the Guinean ambassador in Freetown. Since Conakry is obliged by convention to recall its ambassador after such an act, the ensuing furore could mark the first significant attempt to bring Yenga to the fore. Sierra Leone, like any other country, deserves to exist within inviolable borders. Unfortunately, the silence in Freetown has not recognized our right to live unmolested.


Subject: Re: PRESDENT KOROMA'S SILENCE OVER YENGA IS TROUBLING
From: M. Allieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 20:42:36 02/05/08 ()
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Indeed this administrations "silence" is indeed troubling. What is more troubling however is the fact that Guinean troops have now encroached on more territory and that has happened since this administration has assumed the reins of Government. If this administration fails to make a public statement on the issue so that the sierra leonean public becomes more educated on this very pressing issue of national importance, it would have failed the nation at least as to this particular fact.

I have made sugestions on this forum and other forums, and even whispered into the ears of a few peopl in both the SLPP and the APC heirachy that this matter could be settled by simply filing a lawsuit against the government of Guinea at the ICJ. When Nigeria encroached on the territory of Cameroon, the Cameroonian govt filed a complaint against Nigeria , at the ICJ in 1994 8 years later in 2002 or thereavbots the court gave judgement against Nigeria and the Bakassi Peninsular has been returned to Cameroon.

We could similarly utilise that approach and I believe that it would work and that Guinea would then be required in the event that the Sierra Leone govt prevails, be orderd to pay costs.

I am sure that there have been negotiations behind closed doors but the President needs to make a statement to the people regrding what his govt has done so far.

gotta GO


Subject: Re: PRESDENT KOROMA'S SILENCE OVER YENGA IS TROUBLING
From: BRA ENVIABLE
To: All
Date Posted: 01:31:05 02/06/08 ()
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Alphaa Alieu, Kabor. U dae?
Those of you with access to Orlangba Koroma should tell him what you've just mentioned on this forum: tell Sierra Leoneans what is going on. Democracies must communicate. I think Orlangba Koroma's silence over Yenga deals with the fact that so far, Freetown has not made a single diplomatic move over Yenga. Being a bigger and stronger neighbor should not legitimize violence against the weak. Otherwise, little Gambia could be swalldowed by Senegal.


Subject: Re: PRESDENT KOROMA'S SILENCE OVER YENGA IS TROUBLING
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 06:21:27 02/06/08 ()
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Believe it or not The President is an avid reader of the Cocorioko forum. This is where he feels the pulse of the diaspora. A simple address to the nation on the state of the Guinean incursion into Yenga and its surrounding villages, would suffice. He needs not give an indepth statement of what negotiations he has accomplished so far. The statement could be generally worded. Ernest campaigned on the issue of accountability, a statement on the Yenga isue will show the people of sierra leone that as commander in chief he is accountable to the people for the military incursion of the state fo Guinea into sierra leone.

I have no more access to the president than any other person does. I understand that his schedule is of such a nature that it is almost impossible to see him sometimes. When he was the leader of the opposition, we could cal an impromptu meeting with him and he would appear, but now the man has the whole nation on his mind and his days are hectic. Perhaps the only way one can communicate with him is to send him a message through a medicum that he reads. He is a reasonable man and I am sure that he would see the concerns expressed here and realise that they are reasonable concerns worthy of considerations.


Subject: Re: PRESDENT KOROMA'S SILENCE OVER YENGA IS TROUBLING
From: Lovey Dovey
To: All
Date Posted: 01:32:56 02/06/08 ()
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...little Gambia could be SWALLOWED by Senegal


Subject: Re: PRESDENT KOROMA'S SILENCE OVER YENGA IS TROUBLING
From: DeLaw
To: All
Date Posted: 17:49:30 02/05/08 ()
Email Address: contehlawrence@yahoo.com
Entered From: cpe-75-185-99-153.insight.res.rr.com at 75.185.99.153

Message:
Sadly,EBK was not elected on the issue of securing the borders or protecting the country from another invasion to loot our diamonds.The people were more interested in removing the SLPP for corrupt practices and probably not much more.
Perhaps,Conakry is playing a territorial chess game to do what Charles Taylor did to Sierra Leone and so far, we have not positioned ourselves to be formidable opponents.
The government should continue to address this problem and seek to resolve it as soon as possible.If it fails to do so,then this must be included in the arguement for change in the next election.
I wish to thank the Bra for his relentless efforts to shed more light on the issues that matter in the dialogue to transform our country for the better,for the future.
As Sharon Shuster put it,"WHEN WE HAVE THE COURAGE TO SPEAK OUT-TO BREAK OUR SILENCE-WE INSPIRE THE REST OF THE 'MODERATES'IN OUR COMMUNITIES TO SPEAK UP AND TO VOTE THEIR VIEWS."


Subject: Re: PRESDENT KOROMA'S SILENCE OVER YENGA IS TROUBLING
From: ACTION MAN
To: All
Date Posted: 16:44:17 02/05/08 ()
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Bra Enviable, welcome back.
Ernest Koroma is all talk. He is not going to do anything about Yenga. Like you said, all the big mouth about Yenga was pure elections labo labo.


Subject: Re: PRESDENT KOROMA'S SILENCE OVER YENGA IS TROUBLING
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 13:46:25 02/05/08 ()
Email Address:
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Let's go Diplo' on them empire builders in Guinea. We have right on our side and The Diabetic in Conakry will wilt out of Yenga with a concerted, no-holds-barred diplomatic offensive. A little patience is needed here but please, please no African neo-con militaristic fulminations for now. That will just finally destroy the country.


Subject: Re: PRESDENT KOROMA'S SILENCE OVER YENGA IS TROUBLING
From: Peace In the World
To: All
Date Posted: 13:04:36 02/05/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ems0202onestp14.gsu.edu at 131.96.74.69

Message:
Where have you been Bra Enviable?


Subject: Re: PRESDENT KOROMA'S SILENCE OVER YENGA IS TROUBLING
From: diplomacy rules
To: All
Date Posted: 06:06:35 02/06/08 ()
Email Address: diplomacy@msn.com
Entered From: gate4-norfolk.nmci.navy.mil at 138.162.0.44

Message:
In this situation I feel we should solve it diplomatically. Koroma should have a meeting with leaders from all parties and they should decide to send a delegation to conakry and ask that the Guinean president withdraw troops from our territory. What happened to Zainab? why isnt she already there on top of things. I might not agress with condeleeza rice but she is more a woman of action. all this so called UN experience is no good if the time comes to deliver and you are no where to be seen? and slpp pmdc and apc parliarmentarians whats going on? apc blamed Kabba of not caring now they do the same thing? it makes me wander whether our leaders are scared of Guinea or whether they are getting somethign in return to sell our country be it slpp , apc or pmdc. we need change


Subject: do you want comcast to carry an african station?
From: salone refugee
To: All
Date Posted: 06:26:14 02/05/08 ()
Email Address: saloneref@msn.com
Entered From: gate4-norfolk.nmci.navy.mil at 138.162.0.44

Message:
We all can make change. we all noticed in the latest african nations cup if you had comcast you could not watch it. well we can all make change. I say if we all make a request at this link if you have comcast for a channel the more requests they get the more the likelihood of this happening. I am sure other networks that you have give you the option . and dont say I am only one person. yes we can make change together. I would be asking for ntv since I heard the dc market carries that station. get more of your friends to make this request.
http://www.comcast.com/corporate/customers/contactus/feedback.html


Subject: Re: do you want comcast to carry an african station?
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 09:14:12 02/05/08 ()
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I have COX and they carry the NTA station on MHZ 473.


Subject: Re: do you want comcast to carry an african station?
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 06:44:55 02/05/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
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Message:
I think the Moderator should eagle eye this posting. Any rule violation? Full disclosure: I am suing Comcast for $50m for fraudulent misrepresentation, interference with business interests and negligent employment.


Subject: WHERE ARE THE UNHYPHENATED AMERICANS?
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 06:23:24 02/05/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
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The Americans are no more, extinguished by the hyphen: soon we will have native American-Americans. If there are African-Americans, where is the sense in "Sierra Leonean-American"? A tautology: aren't Sierra Leoneans Africans? If so, doesn't that make them "African Americans"? Let's take it home: how about Liberian-Sierra Leoneans, Sudanese-Sierra Leoneans, and lest I forget, Guinean-Sierra Leoneans? I wonder what fuels this irrational hyphenation?


Subject: Dr Abdulai O Conteh
From: Enquiry???
To: All
Date Posted: 04:51:20 02/05/08 ()
Email Address:
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Does anyone know, if he has been accepted as Secretary General of African Union, at the recent meeting in Addis Ababa??????


Subject: Re: Dr Abdulai O Conteh
From: FM
To: All
Date Posted: 06:24:29 02/05/08 ()
Email Address:
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From what i read in the media he only got one vote and the other applicants received 37 and i think 15 or 17 votes, but please re check. Something might be in thenewpeople.com. I understand that the minah family wrote a letter against him which may not have gone down well for him. Again please double check.


Subject: Re: Dr Abdulai O Conteh
From: Newsman
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Date Posted: 10:35:10 02/05/08 ()
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Your information is correct.It is really sad, that we could not even get votes from our neighbours,namely, Liberia,Guinea and Gambia.


Subject: Re: Dr Abdulai O Conteh
From: Brabanxx
To: All
Date Posted: 11:00:34 02/05/08 ()
Email Address: brabanxx@aol.com
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Message:
Perhaps our neighbours saw and or knew something we are not aware of. The evil that men do...


Subject: BUBU, SOUKOUS, DOMBOLO: MISSED OPPORTUNITY
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 21:09:17 02/04/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-114-169-98.hsd1.dc.comcast.net at 76.114.169.98

Message:
What happened to bubu music? The best African music from Sierra Leone: super rhythmic riffs, soothing harmonical chords, all that and more suffocated by the trash from Jamaica or from the DRC. In my opinion, the best bubu jams are as sophisticated, if not more, than the best music Eurpoe has to offer: Beethoven's Sting Quartet in C sharp minor, OP 131. Yet, at your parties, bubu is infinitely absent: trash from Jamaica, banned from middle class Jamaican homes, thunders. Is there a syndrome here? Just as we throw away our resources, so we trash our cultural heritage. Pathetic.


Subject: Re: BUBU, SOUKOUS, DOMBOLO: MISSED OPPORTUNITY
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 21:59:48 02/04/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
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Message:
Mercy, the depth of my cultural denegration of Europe is reflected in my spelling "Europe" (translation for Freudians: "urope") as "Eurpoe." Who cares? This Urope that has mongrelized us, called us savages, stolen our resources and people, with the help of a spineless, compliant fifth column, who cares about this land of plunder. Listen to a European: "Europe is sick; she must go under: sick, sick,sick---she must be transcended." Thus spoke Nietzche's Zarathustra. Let's get over this monkey on our backs! How? Das ist die Frage. Genug!


Subject: Re: BUBU, SOUKOUS, DOMBOLO: MISSED OPPORTUNITY
From: POLITICAL
To: All
Date Posted: 21:41:41 02/04/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Bubu is unique. I love culture music.


Subject: Re: BUBU, SOUKOUS, DOMBOLO: MISSED OPPORTUNITY
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 22:16:58 02/04/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
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Message:
What's wrong with you Political? Bubu is music, period: not "culture" music, but music period. But, I sense that you meant music infused with cultural values, as opposed to the rubbish nihilism of Jamaican trash music, excepting the great Bob Marley, or the sentimental rubbish from the punks---Kofi Olumide, to name one---from the DRC, excepting the great bands of Franco, Empire Bakuba and Zaiko Langa Langa. I was almost tempted to ask whether you took your dose? Have you seen Foday's freezer? Bra, u go vomit. Bra Foday asked for it, didn't he? I am in a good mood tonight. Maybe it is because my Swedish blond fiance was exceptionally nice to me earlier. How about you: life is good?


Subject: DETRIBALIZATION: CRIMINALIZATION
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 19:00:52 02/04/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
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If the hypothesis that tribalism is the root of corruption is reasonably corroborated, then it is time to criminalize any and all tribal affiliation. If corruption is a crime, then tribal affiliation, which one-sidedly founds tribalism, should be criminalized. A possible statute: " Any person who, or any entity that, identifies himself or herself or itself using the name of any and all tribes in any manner whatsover in a public forum or fora, shall be imprisoned for a term of no less than fifteen (15) years in a high security prison." If such a statute were strictly enforced, then tribalism could be eradicated in one generation. The argument here is that tribalism is impossible without tribal affiliation. Hence, tribal affiliation is actually the foundation of corruption. In brief tribal affiliation is inconsistent with transparency.


Subject: Re: DETRIBALIZATION: CRIMINALIZATION
From: POLITICAL
To: All
Date Posted: 21:07:21 02/04/08 ()
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Message:
umpire, you nor take you meds tidday not so? Are you on crack again? It is only a crack user that can say such stupid things. Tribe is an identity just like names are.
How about I say we should criminalize anyone that identify himself with any name? Does that sound sensible. You failed to undestand the basic problem. It is not tribe that is the problem, it is rather the people who want to use tribe to disunite us is the problem. It is the way some people use the adjective side of the word is the problem. So, this should not be defined in a hypothesis.


Subject: Re: DETRIBALIZATION: CRIMINALIZATION
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 21:29:05 02/04/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-114-169-98.hsd1.dc.comcast.net at 76.114.169.98

Message:
Bra, yu no say me med na dis forum. Anyway, ah get yu drift.On a more serious note, reason with me Political: if the problem is corruption, and you arguably agree with me that corruption is founded on tribalism, it appears obvious to me that to uproot the pest, we should destroy the hole: tribal affiliation. My criminalization proposal was just a ruse to identify the root problem: tribal identification. If I am not mistaken, De Law, caught this point. On the other hand, Political, we all no say dis forum na we crack; ah lie, bra? Glory to Kabs!


Subject: Re: DETRIBALIZATION: CRIMINALIZATION
From: POLITICAL
To: All
Date Posted: 21:44:49 02/04/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
You are so funny. On a serious note you are completely correct. Tribalism is the basis of greed and corruption is found on greed. This is interconnected.


Subject: Re: DETRIBALIZATION: CRIMINALIZATION
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 22:43:32 02/04/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-114-169-98.hsd1.dc.comcast.net at 76.114.169.98

Message:
On that note, Political, I must exit; have a good night's rest. Nature is calling: look ow dis opotoe dae melt all ova me chakol body. Bra, u na sabis man; u no waitin go happen if ah no do me duty. I wouldn't want to be found singing one of my client's (Herbie Crichlow of the Backstreet boys) chart busting hits: "Show me the meaning of being lonely." Nor do I want this dream girl, sweeter than honey, sexier than Naomi Campbell and Patricia Koroma combined, to start singing: "Quit playing games with my heart," another Crichlow, super hit. If you know that Crichlow lives in Sweden, you know how I got this sweet thing. Arranged 'marriage,'I suppose. Goodnight, my brother! Hope you are not singing "Show me the meaning of being lonely? LOL.


Subject: Re: DETRIBALIZATION: CRIMINALIZATION
From: DeLaw
To: All
Date Posted: 20:59:51 02/04/08 ()
Email Address: contehlawrence@yahoo.com
Entered From: cpe-75-185-99-153.insight.res.rr.com at 75.185.99.153

Message:
Your hypothesis is very interesting;I found out that "Corruption is never an individual act.It always involves groups of people bound by one rule of association: an exchange of favors.This collective corruption is founded on traditional morality,well-established friendships and the opportunity at hand.It allows crimes to be practised with impunity and is characterised by an intolerable ignorance." according to ROBERTO da MATTA.
In the case of Sierra Leone,tribalism could be seen as such a rule and this could facilitate nepotism.
However,criminalization of tribal affiliation is simply impractical.
Major tribes in Sierra Leone have the tendency to marginalize minority tribes and this may be the reason why for instance,the Limba or Fullah are fiercely defensive of their ethnic cohesion.
The way forward is to emphasize nationalism over tribalism.


Subject: Re: DETRIBALIZATION: CRIMINALIZATION
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 21:15:54 02/04/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-114-169-98.hsd1.dc.comcast.net at 76.114.169.98

Message:
I agree, up to a point. A good counter-argument to my position would raise the issue of the difficulty of enforcing the statute. If I am not mistaken, that is the drift of your posting, right?


Subject: Re: DETRIBALIZATION: CRIMINALIZATION
From: Jamba Smoker
To: All
Date Posted: 19:39:46 02/04/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-126-139-157.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 71.126.139.157

Message:
You seem to be the most educated yet the most stupid individual on this forum. Who do you think you are impressing with the colloqual use of the language? Your proposition to criminalize tribal affiliation or tribes is rooted in your mental slavery. Now you live in the white man's land and thank God you can read and write the white man's language....End result? abolish tribes. You are really sorry, self-hating african bush man. Now that you have been granted this refugee status in the US, you think anything African is criminal...Shame you! Shame on your identity1..Shame on your colonial mindset--anything African is inferior and criminal...shame on you so-called bookman!


Subject: Re: DETRIBALIZATION: CRIMINALIZATION
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 20:14:50 02/04/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-114-169-98.hsd1.dc.comcast.net at 76.114.169.98

Message:
Would that I were a "bookman", "an african bush man", a "refugee", than a mabayla jamba smoker, a dopey,and truth be told: a criminal. Excuse me: I shouldn't attack you. Strike my first sentence! Address my arguments when druggy cerebral potopoto takes a hike, and don't forget to write beautiful prose. I love fine writing. It makes me high. Feel me, homey?


Subject: Re: DETRIBALIZATION: CRIMINALIZATION
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 19:58:18 02/04/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-114-169-98.hsd1.dc.comcast.net at 76.114.169.98

Message:
Yo, Jamba: you know that personal attacks do not faze me. So back off your jamba posture. Address my arguments, not me. Excuse me: you can't do that, since you are in cloud nine. Upgrade to crack!


Subject: Negotiating.
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 18:29:48 02/04/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: mckeldinb-79.umd.edu at 129.2.18.79

Message:
Negotiating.


Subject: Negotiating.
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 18:25:23 02/04/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: mckeldinb-79.umd.edu at 129.2.18.79

Message:
How are you all?
Negotiating.


Subject: Sierra Leonean Wins Super Bowl
From: ITK
To: All
Date Posted: 16:33:20 02/04/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
History was made yesterday when the underdog New York Giants defeated the highly touted New England Patriots in a hard-fought and thrilling NFL Championship game in Glendale, Arizona.

Among the players fielded by the Giants is one of the most humble Sierra Leoneans you can ever meet-- Gibril Wilson -- the starting safety, who wears the No. 28 jersey. He impressed as a rookie four years ago and has started since then. He is a key player in a key part of the Giants success-- Defense. We all should be proud of Gibril (and other fellow Sierra Leoneans in the NFL-- Maddieu Williams, BJ Tucker, and I believe one or two others).

Incidentally, the number of key starters of African descent in the NFL is growing exponentially, with Nigerians dominating. Just on the Giants you have , in addition to Wilson, Osi Umeniyora (Nigeria) and Matthis Kiwanuka (I believe Uganda).

Congratulations Giants; congratulations Gibril Wilson!


Subject: Re: Sierra Leonean Wins Super Bowl
From: Alfred S. Cole
To: All
Date Posted: 13:24:11 02/06/08 ()
Email Address: alfcoles2120@hotmail.com
Entered From: c-71-197-99-220.hsd1.ca.comcast.net at 71.197.99.220

Message:
CONGRATULATIONS GIBRIL!!!! Caps off for you. May God continue to accord you the wisdom and skill to prosper in the game.

I wish Sierra Leone were playing Football (not soccer), we would have been calling him for the game. He is on the PRO list (abbie?)


Subject: Re: Sierra Leonean Wins Super Bowl
From: Alfred S. Cole
To: All
Date Posted: 13:23:04 02/06/08 ()
Email Address: alfcoles2120@hotmail.com
Entered From: c-71-197-99-220.hsd1.ca.comcast.net at 71.197.99.220

Message:
CONGRATULATIONS GIBRIL!!!! Caps off for you. May God continue to accord you the wisdom and skill to prosper in the game.

I wish Sierra Leone were playing Football (not soccer), we would have been calling him for the game. He is on the PRO list (abbie?)


Subject: A Shining example
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 15:41:13 02/04/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-071271d5.01-32-73746f42.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se at 213.113.18.7

Message:
A Shining Example


Subject: Re: A Shining example Indeed!
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 19:20:02 02/04/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: mckeldinb-79.umd.edu at 129.2.18.79

Message:
A shining Example indeed!
Talking business Pa!
It is time for brain reverse, a time for positive change.
Night and day. Business vs hopeless mindedness are virtually two different mindsets. President Koroma will deifinately not fail us. One thing I am positive that he will lead Sierra Leone to the promise land is that he believes in the potency or rather usefulness of ideas, brains, intelligence in the development of a nation.
As I was telling a one time college and Teaching mate this morning, any country, any society where knowledge (brains) are not respected such a country is doom to failure. Imagine the amount of money that was pumped into Sierra Leone over the years? These failed due to two reasons: the ability to think and accept reasoning and the willingness to accept change. This was passed down to even the common man in the street. What he thinks of is how can I excel in it rather than how can our country develop from it. As such, as this ideology had become rampant, those who wanted to do it the right way, with integrity and character became the jokes.
Today, God has helped Dr. Koroma that we all think that to be intelligent is fashionable but some of us are still clanged to the old ways of, to excel, I have to see that the brain is a joke. This is where anti corruption will straightene-out. Because the prementioned ideology is taking a very severe and dramatic turn towards the good of Sierra Leone and our people.
The country was so keen in focusing on what do you have instead of what ideas are workable but that will be reversed. The former was the reason for the brain drain because if ideas and those who actually have workable ideas were listened to most would have stayed or would have returned upon acquiring a stepping stone that the country couldn't afford. But their fair was, ideas are not respected therefore, I would find what is respected, for which they spent their youthful years in the Diaspora while others who believe in our nation kept on trying. Eventually, the forceful ones suceeded temporarily by invading our people. But as knowledge has led the world even prior to the renaissance and the Industrial revolution, knowledge prevailed, leading to the dialogue that brought our war to a halt. It is this knowledge and Dr. Koroma's fervent belief in it that will ultimately lead Sierra Leone to the golden ochard.
So Sierra Leoneans make sure you are doingthe right thing and forget about the old ways it use to happen in Sierra Leone. I know that way is hard to relinquish such that many are abroad but are still thinking the way it use to be in Sierra Leone. Forget it! Whatever you do let it be guided by the truth, honesty and character otherwise (Sierra Leone is listening and the world is watching), your game will be turned against you because the people, the President and government plus the International Community don't seem to like that old ways it use to happen in Sierra Leone. Just join the positive ones please. As they are hungry for change in the positive direction, you will be the joke if you are not guided by character worthy deeds, where lie, fake don't work any more, where trying to use someone elses thinking don't work any more, where the truth is the weapon. There are no alternatives but to change for the good of Sierra Leone and the brains will usher such a change with character and integrity whether one likes it or not.
Let us be positive and take the few punches. The final blow, the heavier blow will be ours even if we do not stretch our hands. Such a blow will navigate the brain and twist and trun things around there to the right direction.
Try freedom for once by following your judgement instead of somebody elses. It is sweet because you are free from the head ache of gussing to be to toll incorrect. Try being free by thinking for yourself and see how sweet it is.
Lontha! Word to the wise is quite sufficient.
I'm loving it, hey!
A Shining Example indeed!


Subject: Re: A Shining example Indeed!
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 19:51:53 02/04/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-114-169-98.hsd1.dc.comcast.net at 76.114.169.98

Message:
This is a fine text, marred by only one error: it was not inability to think or change that eviscerated all the Benjamins that were "pumped" into Sierra Leone, but theft or, in legalese, "conversion." Who stole the money? Educated folks, of course. The truth, at least the relative truth, is that brains took the people of Sierra Leone to the cleaners. This proposition is self-evident: educated folks control the hands that control the resources pumped into the country. And those pumped out of the country? Ditto.


Subject: Chad make me despair fo Africa!
From: Bugsyb
To: All
Date Posted: 13:41:29 02/04/08 ()
Email Address: aburneynic@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: acd1e45a.ipt.aol.com at 172.209.228.90

Message:
Would it be a good idea for African countries sign up to an agreement whereby if they have their Elections observed and ratified by the United Nations they are protected by the Forces of the UN in case of Rebel/ Insurgent attacks??


Subject: Re: Chad make me despair fo Africa!
From: Never
To: All
Date Posted: 05:59:43 02/05/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 83.229.112.2

Message:
The UN and other observers are responsible for most of the chaos in African elections.We should discourage these observers, and monitor the elections ourselves.Look at Keny, Nigeria,Zimbabwe etc etc, which were covered by such Observers


Subject: Re: Chad make me despair fo Africa!
From: DeLaw
To: All
Date Posted: 18:06:22 02/04/08 ()
Email Address: contehlawrence@yahoo.com
Entered From: cpe-75-185-99-153.insight.res.rr.com at 75.185.99.153

Message:
Ya mon,Africans can't seem to be able to refrain from war to "solve their problems" and arms dealers are laughing at us all the way to the bank.I think we should strengthen the AU backed by the UN to do the job.God help us!


Subject: Re: Chad make me despair fo Africa!
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 14:02:36 02/04/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-4577b27b.dyn.optonline.net at 69.119.178.123

Message:
A terrific idea indeed! It is hard to shed tears for "democratically elected" despots like Idriss Deby, Paul Biya, Omar Bongo, Lansana Conteh, Sassou Nguesso, Teodoro Obiang Mbassogo and others when they are overthrown. These corrupt despots cynically manipulate the ballot box to perpetuate themselves in office and stack all the levers of power with their tribesmen. Idriss Deby's ethnic group is only 3% of Chad's population but it dominates the military, gendamerie and all sensitive positions. The oil revenues are shared only by his henchmen, and he regularly fingers the constitution and steals elections with impunity. No wonder he has a bunch of angry rebels baying for his blood.

Your idea is worth pursuing. For good governance and sensible economic policies, presidents should be protected from marauding rebels by the Security Council. For the kakistocrats and the nastycrats, let's go Bastille on them: Off with their heads!


Subject: Should Charles Magai Step Down from PMDC?
From: The Trruth
To: All
Date Posted: 10:36:15 02/04/08 ()
Email Address: truth@hotmail.com
Entered From: c-71-199-140-97.hsd1.ga.comcast.net at 71.199.140.97

Message:
The question is, should he step down as PMDC Leader? PMDC stands for POSITIVE change in Sierra Leone, not IMMORALITY. Charles Magai did it again. Twenty some years ago, he had a daughter by his cousin. (Sir milton Magai's daughter) both had a daughter who is living in London on welfare, now this. Charles Magai is a disgrace to PMDC. Word on the street that he is about to offer his father-in-law of his girlfriend position in the APC Government. The PMDC supporters on the ground and the Disapora has been deceive by him. He knows how to talk the talk, but cannot walk the walk. He thinks because he is mende, PMDC cannot survice without him. WRONG Charles, PMDC have hard working people on the ground who are capable to be a leader. His leadership style represent Immorality. PMDC supporters are complaining that he is a user, very selfish and live off people to support himself finacially. If they knew then, what they know now,they would have picked a suitable leader for this Positive Change. He is only good at public speaking Not a Leader.
My Question Again, should Charles Step down?


Subject: Re: Should Charles Magai Step Down from PMDC?
From: IN FIGHTING
To: All
Date Posted: 12:35:39 02/04/08 ()
Email Address: INFIGHTING@MSN.COM
Entered From: gate4-norfolk.nmci.navy.mil at 138.162.0.44

Message:
even IF YOUR ALLEGATIONS OF CHARLES MARGAI ARE TRUE ABOUT HIM BEEN IMMORAL DOES THAT JUSTIFY HIM BEEN REMOVED? i USED TO BE A FINGER POINTER MYSELF IN REGARDS TO OUR LEADER AND THEIR PRIVATE LIVES. but I HAVE COME TO THE CONCLUSION WHETHER IT BE EBK, KABBA, CHARLES, AND THE REST OF OUR POLITICIANS IF IT IS PERSONAL I DO NOT CARE. AS LONG AS THEY STAND BY THE IDEALS TO MAKE OUR COUNTRY A BETTER PLACE FO RALLY OF US TO LIVE AND PROMOTE DEVELOPMENT AND DO NOT BREAK THE RULES OF LAW. AS SIERRA LEONEAN WE ARE TOO BUSY POINTING FINGERS AT EACH OTHER TRYING TO BRING EACH OTHER DOWN INSTEAD OF TRYING TO UPLIFT EACH OTHER. EACH ONE OF US TO TAKE A MOMENT AND USE THE ENERGY THAT WE ARE USING TO DESTROY OUR BROTHERS AND SISTER APC, SLPP. MENDE, TEMNE, CREOLE, LIMBA LOKO AND ALL LETS USE ALL THAT ENERGY FOR POSITIVITY. LETS COME TOGETHER AND START PRIVATE INVESTMENT ENDEAVORS TO HELP BRING JOBS TO OUR PEOPLE. LETS START FUNDS TO HELP RECON STRUCTURE. WE ARE ALWAYS WAITING FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO DO FOR US SIERRA LEONEANS. LET US TAKE THE INITIATIVE THE TAIWANESE TOOK TO BUILD THERE COUNTRY.


Subject: Re: Should Charles Magai Step Down from PMDC?
From: The Truth
To: All
Date Posted: 13:09:12 02/04/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
You should tell him (CHARLES) that, because he is not doing any of these things you have mention, just lip service and also discourging supporters who wants to bring improvement and change to the country through PMDC. Once you allow your personal interest to interfere with the progress of the country or party members who wants give support, then you should be removed.


Subject: The Left Should Join The Right In The Developmental Processs
From: corruption
To: All
Date Posted: 10:18:24 02/04/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 82-69-25-110.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk at 82.69.25.110

Message:
The Left Should Join The Right In The Developmental Process Of Sierra Leone
Posted by Dylan Sogie-Thomas of London United Kingdom on Feb 3, 2008, 16:55



Monday 17th September 2007 was the last date for political rivalry in Sierra Leone as President Ernest Koroma was declared President of the Republic of Sierra Leone.

The main aim of this article is to raise awareness on all political parties, journalists, political writers and citizens as to the role they should be playing in the overall development of the society. APC won by 57% (right) and opposition 43% (left) this shows that President Ernest Koroma will not achieve his objective without the support of the left.

All other political parties were considered “left out” after the election result. However the left should not be considered as rivals or enemies but should be treated as friends or partners to strengthen the country economy and the democratic values of Sierra Leone.

On Sunday 27th January 2008, I attended the APC meeting at Peckham, London to hear what President Koroma had to say and to ask questions but the meeting was not well organized in terms of questions. However our president made a marvelous speech as he outlined his mission that he hope will deliver Sierra Leone from its state of nightmare.

Our president seems to be a man with vision. It is said and written “where there is no vision the people will perish”. President Koroma talked about his government s main priorities which included wiping out corruption, creating a transparent economy and pushing reforms in the judicial system, tax system, the health sector, agricultural sector and educational sector.

Our president should be aware that the time for election promises are over; most people believe what he was saying during his campaign as they taught the SLPP governments were not in the capacity to deliver. President Koroma had talked about corruptions, commissions and bribes but we hope Anticorruption will start to catch those engaged in bribes or commissions. I was in Freetown during the December 2007 Christmas and I felt discouraged to see custom customers, police officers at Lungi Airport demanding bribes in broad day light. President Koroma needs to show commitment in the fight against corruption by dealing with petty issues like bribery in strategic areas and should not wait for a new Anticorruption legislation. Investigators working at the ACC should act as watch dogs and should setup and get corrupt officials arrested and dismissed. If ACC sets few precedents the news will circulate and civil servants will adhere to the change in attitude. Now is the time for ACC to function and everyone respect the law in order to make the people happy. I was also at water quay in December 2007 and the amount I paid as custom duty was not reflected on the receipt. If there is no discipline in these public places then our president will not achieve his objective. I feel and believe that these petty corruptions should be dealt with first and will serve as a deterrent to the “big fishes”. President Koroma should also keep to his promise by declaring his assets to demonstrate his vision and commitment to Sierra Leone.

Sierra Leoneans are becoming hopeful day by day. However I would like to caution my fellow Sierra Leoneans that APC would not deliver our country in 36 months as we are just coming from 11 years civil war and with corruption in the system, 60 % donor dependant and poor tax systems. I am happy with the president in finding funds or grants from international countries for the country but the control of these funds from embezzlement is the difficult issue. It would be good also to caution the present government to be careful how they borrow money as government come and go and the bills will come later and will be paid by generations yet to come. In modern days politics we expect parliamentarians to be talking about developing the country and helping their constituencies in particular and not concentrate on self interest like diplomatic passports, cars, houses and other benefits. Every parliamentarian should reside and have a surgery in their constituency.

SLPP are criticizing what they were unable to deliver during their 10 years in power. The current high rate of inflation has both avoidable and unavoidable factors. The rise in international prices, especially fuel, oil, petrol, milk powder, flour, rice and other basic items that are imported cannot be controlled. The only way government can control such prices is through subsidies and that would be wrong direction. However the Bank Governor and Minister of Finance can help in making our currency strong in the international market.

I am calling on all journalists to report fearlessly and without favors .The people need to know what the government is doing. The media should write about corrupt administration or corrupt practice they notice in the public sector. They should advocate for transparency and accountability of government officials. The media should have access to public records, assets declared and documents in order to protect the weak and vulnerable in the country.

President Koroma had said lots of right words but whether it is words or actions or impossible we will see soon. His government should declare their assets and stop using Anticorruption legislation as an excuse.

I am looking forward to receive any comments or feedback via email: sogiethomas@yahoo.com



Subject: KONTRI BOY for MAYOR
From: J. Blyden
To: All
Date Posted: 09:38:10 02/04/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 192.64.157.56

Message:
APC is actively pushing the negative envelop. This is the final straw that is destined to reluctantly eliminate our alliance with the APC government. The Mayorial position was created for the creole settlers and that tradition has been maintained over the years. Except, Alhaji Fatah Rahman (Oku)who was temporarily appointed, all previous mayors were creoles. President Koroma will forever destroy the long standing relationship between the settlers and the APC party.

Yayah Kalokoh may be well qualified for the position of Mayor, but that is not the issue in this case. Are the creoles eligible to run for the numerous positions of paramount chiefs? I guess not. Many, many creoles are afraid of being called names, this is a burning issue that the APC government needs to address immediately. This is beyond Northernization we frequently discuss in this forum. Traditionally, all is left for the creoles is the mayorial position, we are all Sierra leoneans that should embrace the concept of affirmative action. Just the begining.


Subject: Re: KONTRI BOY for MAYOR
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 21:34:00 02/04/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-071271d5.01-32-73746f42.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se at 213.113.18.7

Message:
This is 2008. What do you mean by ”the settlers "? Are "the settlers" the majority ina Freetown?
Of course you could legalise the tradition that has been thus recently transgressed - by passing legislation which gives some Krio or other a monopoly on the position of Mayor of Freetown - even if there are hardly "any settlers"……..

Should the letter be prefaced, ”Could you kindly?" or ”We’re gonna get back our rights!"?

Was Lucien Genet ( a French man) once mayor of Freetown?


Subject: Re: KONTRI BOY for MAYOR
From: KLA
To: All
Date Posted: 13:46:31 02/05/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 164.82.85.3

Message:
CH,
Your link to the list of mayors of Freetown is incomplete....No fault of yours. The WIKI concept allows for addition and editing.

The history of the City of Freetown must be a guide towards the Modernization of Freetown.

tstm







Subject: Re: KONTRI BOY for MAYOR
From: KLA
To: All
Date Posted: 12:33:07 02/04/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 164.82.85.3

Message:

Krios could be eligible for oppressed Minority status,thus making them eligible for settlement in friendlier Nations, in CASE OF ANY OLA.


Let us see how things go!

tstm


Subject: Re: KONTRI BOY for MAYOR
From: SIK
To: All
Date Posted: 11:51:23 02/04/08 ()
Email Address: sokoroma@hotmail.com
Entered From: lgrt-122.dhcp.umass.edu at 128.119.230.122

Message:
I’m still finding it difficult to understand the inability of some Sierra Leoneans, especially the ‘assumed educated folks,’ to understand simple facts and engage in productive thinking. The position of mayor in Freetown does not have any tribal or regional requirement. If it does, the Thamnes are qualified because they initially occupied Freetown. They called it Romaron, a place the British called ‘the Province of Freedom’ in 1787 for the free slaves, and later known as Freetown. Check the history books of Sierra Leone, King Nebana, Pa Demba, and others were Thamnes. Of course, the krios are a blend of all tribes in Africa, especially West Africa. To some extent, the Krios might also qualify since historically they could be either Thamnes or any tribe. However, considering the modern state of Sierra Leone as a unified nation, and the current political norm of democratization, the mayor of Freetown could be any sober minded Sierra Leonean. It is not a reserved position for Krios. Let us stop preaching tribalism, regionalism, or ‘partiesm.’ I duff my hat to Mr. Kaloko for the position of Mayor of Freetown. I WILL COME BACK!!


Subject: Re: KONTRI BOY for MAYOR
From: Brian Conton
To: All
Date Posted: 21:59:25 02/04/08 ()
Email Address: bconton@comcast.net
Entered From: c-24-98-69-54.hsd1.ga.comcast.net at 24.98.69.54

Message:
It would seem that there are several unmentioned walls that should
frame this debate. However the debate often disintegrates into Krio Vs
Non Krio. I will try and stay away from the sensitive sayings and state
some often ignored facets of this facinating issue.

1. The BLEND of tribes refered to as Krios have their own unique
identity and culture that are distict from the sum of their constituent
parts. (abundantly documented by Thomas Decker, Eldered Jones and
many others)
2. To desensitize a little bit, let us expand the group to "natives of the
Western Area", and for the purposes of this discussion confine these
natives to those that have lived in the Western Area for at least two
generations. Why? Because It would take that long to de-program and
truely acquire the culture of any area of settlement.
3. It is only the Natives of the Western Area that do not have their
rights to survive protected by the constitution. All others are
guaranteed the preservation of their customary law and culture as
dictated by the Paramount cheif in Section 72 of the Constitution.
4. In the legislative, each district has a traditional ruler representing its
interests in Parliament through a Paramount Cheif. The two districts of
the Western area have no such creature.
5. In the Executive there is a resident Minister East, North and South
preserving the interests of these regions yet there is non for the
Western Area.
6. I will not even venture into the mine field of a Western Area resident
seeking representation (political or traditional) in other areas of the
country.

Tribalism, regionalism and the like happen to be two way streets. We
have to realise that the Western area is under represented and its
culture which is an essential balance to what little national cohesion we
have, is in danger due in part to the disparity in protections afforded
by our laws. A question of representation is far mor complex than
"Kontri boy for Mayor". It touches on our sense of equity in and justice
for our comunities and country.
This is in no way a condemnation of Mr. Kaloko, I dont know the man. I
however must say that his credentials look very impressive. With the
experience he has had with the Navy and the like, his skills may seem
more appropriatly deployed at the National level.


Subject: Re: KONTRI BOY for MAYOR
From: Kalos
To: All
Date Posted: 13:32:40 02/04/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 151.200.189.180

Message:
This is another attempt by a few to create an artificial web of disparity between the krios and the APC administration. The partnership between the APC and the krios is rooted from mutual respect for each other and by no means will it disintegrate over the position of mayor. The demographics of Freetowm, especially greater Freetown, clearly depict the new makeup of our beloved city. The situation in Freetown may be compared to most of the big cities in the United States; wherein most big cities are governed by black mayors.

I truly believe the krios will never be disadvantaged in SL; they are fully represented in the civil service, ministerial appointments, Foreign Service and …………..

Let us consider all candidates for the Mayorship based on qualifications and the ability to address the current problems facing the city. Yayah Kalokoh is by no means a sure-in as the APC candidate; it is our responsibility to look into his background, analyze his platform and be very objective in our deliberations. As one forumite stated yesterday, Yayah looks fantastic on paper and perhaps equipped for the challenging job of Mayor of Freetown. Personally, I wish him the best and urge him to pursue his dream without any vacillation.


Subject: Re: KONTRI BOY for MAYOR
From: kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 09:52:20 02/04/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 205.148.53.200

Message:
Let the best man win be it Creole, oku or fullah. the demographics have changed in Freetown. Creoles can stil be appointed for ministerial positions. I know this may sound impossible with the current Northernization crusade of the EBK Govt. I say keep hope alive and vote SLPP next time and least they had more creole ministers and a chief justice.


Subject: Re: KONTRI BOY for MAYOR
From: DeLaw
To: All
Date Posted: 17:41:40 02/04/08 ()
Email Address: contehlawrence@yahoo.com
Entered From: cpe-75-185-99-153.insight.res.rr.com at 75.185.99.153

Message:
HOW ABOUT SIMPLY"Sierra Leonean for mayor?"ANY LEADER WHO WOULD HELP TO BUILD BRIDGES AMONG THE TRIBES AND REGIONS OF SIERRA LEONE AND DELIVER THE PROMISE OF Unity,Freedom and Justice MIGHT BE THE IDEAL LEADER THAT IS WOULD SOLVE THE EQUATION FOR PEACE AND PRSPERITY FOR THE COUNTRY.TRIBALISTS AND REGIONALISTS SIMPLY CANNOY DO IT.


Subject: Re: KONTRI BOY for MAYOR
From: country boy
To: All
Date Posted: 19:08:51 02/04/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 199.107.67.123

Message:
Public office in sierra leone should be competitively sought. For a very long time, the Freetown mayorship position has been taken for granted. This is partly why the city is in the sorry state it is in. Make this position competitive, and let people compete on an equal footing. That I think is the only way Freetown will have a new lease of life.


Subject: Re: KONTRI BOY for MAYOR
From: Santos
To: All
Date Posted: 12:07:26 02/04/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-134-54-251.range86-134.btcentralplus.com at 86.134.54.251

Message:
creoles can be appointed for ministerial positions like any other tribe tribe in sierra leone. the fact of the matter is creoles are not eligible to stand for paramount cheiftaincy in the proviences. so the only position creoles can occupy to compensate for the inbalance of power is the mayorialship. that is why it is important for creoles to have control of freetown or else we will have no creoles left in sierra leone by 2020. i am contryboy but i will rather a creole be mayor than contryman.


Subject: Re: KONTRI BOY for MAYOR
From: country boy
To: All
Date Posted: 19:04:39 02/04/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 199.107.67.123

Message:
Do not forget. Not every country boy is eligible to stand for paramount chief. For you to be a paramount chief, you have to belong to a ruling house. There are only very few sierra leoneans who are members of ruling houses. Kaloko, for example is not a member of a ruling house. Should he be disqualified because of his last name? Are public offices gonna be given based on somebody's last name or by the person's qualifications, proven experience and ability to do a job?


Subject: Re: KONTRI BOY for MAYOR
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 05:29:27 02/05/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-114-169-98.hsd1.dc.comcast.net at 76.114.169.98

Message:
Fascinating. If there are "ruling houses" that morph into "paramount chief[taincies]", which are then flipped into seats in parliament, it appears that Sierra Leone is not a republic. Unsurprisingly, it appears to be consistent with the British political model, our erstwhile colonial colonial hats, knukleleheads. I have a hunch that the paramount chiefs gain the most from tribalism: heeeeere we go again. Smoke out "paramount chieftaincy."! How? Abolish "customary law" by statute or by a constitutional tool, thereby effectively, albeit sub-rosa, universalizing the scope and and authority of the common law. Even the paramount chiefs or their proxies cannot fail to see that this jurisprudential tsunami will bury customary law, and if paramount chieftaincy is unconditionally conditioned by customary law, the paramount chiefs and their proxies will be toast or gari. Go ahead, give it a shot!


Subject: Re: KONTRI BOY for MAYOR
From: Brian Conton
To: All
Date Posted: 07:10:55 02/05/08 ()
Email Address: bconton@comcast.net
Entered From: c-24-98-69-54.hsd1.ga.comcast.net at 24.98.69.54

Message:
And that is why Mr. Kaloko, the best of the best in terms of experience,
might have difficulty putting his skills at the service of the provinces.
Rather he is being squeezed into theatre where there is already a rich
supply of talent. Think of what he could do if given the chance to
revitalize the revenue generating abilities of local Governments, rather
than confining his skills to Freetown. I just dont understand why his kith
and kin are so willing to let him go to Freetown to RUN the City council
rather than say this man is exactly what we need to DEVELOP where the
Kaloko's originate from.


Subject: Re: KONTRI BOY for MAYOR
From: nomoli
To: All
Date Posted: 14:30:35 02/04/08 ()
Email Address: cbalago@yahoo.com
Entered From: adsl-75-60-208-67.dsl.wotnoh.sbcglobal.net at 75.60.208.67

Message:
"that is why it is important for creoles to have control of Freetown or else we will have no creoles left in sierra leone by 2020."
Is that not too long? Some of our parents realised what Sierra Leone would become when tribalists become educated and take over control. EBK, sent the CJ on vacation in violation of the Constitution the Mayor was removed from office and the "NEW APC" is chasing the creoles out as the "old APC" were chasing the foulahs to Guinea. Some of us croles did not wait to be pushed out by first generation college grads who went to that degree mill FBC. We left voluntarily never to return to bigotry, corruption, poverty and tribalism. No longer would we be in a country where we work and get paid 3months later while the president is on tour every month with his buddies collecting per diem. No, some of us didn't want to wait till 2020.


Subject: Re: KONTRI BOY for MAYOR
From: HASSAN KAMARA
To: All
Date Posted: 13:47:56 02/04/08 ()
Email Address: KAMSON10@HOTMAIL.COM
Entered From: dsl092-165-252.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net at 66.92.165.252

Message:
How can someone become a Mayor in Freetown?


Subject: Re: KONTRI BOY for MAYOR
From: country boy
To: All
Date Posted: 18:56:21 02/04/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 199.107.67.123

Message:
According to the constitution, the basic qualification to contest for mayor is to be a citizen of sierra leone, contest under the banner of a political party or as an independent.


Subject: CHARLES MAGAI'S GIRLFRIEND IS PREGNANT
From: The Truth
To: All
Date Posted: 08:49:47 02/04/08 ()
Email Address: truth@hotmail.com
Entered From: gate-cluster.choa.org at 205.173.105.210

Message:
The question is, should he step down as PMDC Leader? PMDC stands for POSITIVE change in Sierra Leone, not IMMORALITY. Charles Magai did it again. Twenty some years ago, he had a daughter by his cousin. (Sir milton Magai's daughter) both had a daughter who is living in London on welfare, now this. Charles Magai is a disgrace to PMDC. Word on the street that he is about to offer his father-in-law of his girlfriend position in the APC Government. The PMDC supporters on the ground and the Disapora has been deceive by him. He knows how to talk the talk, but cannot walk the walk. He thinks because he is mende, PMDC cannot survice without him. WRONG Charles, PMDC have hard working people on the ground who are capable to be a leader. His leadership style represent Immorality. PMDC supporters are complaining that he is a user, very selfish and live off people to support himself finacially. If they knew then, what they know now,they would have picked a suitable leader for this Positive Change. He is only good at public speaking Not a Leader.
My Question Again, should Charles Step down?


Subject: Re: NO LET HIM STAY PUT
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 09:03:04 02/04/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 84.54.30.6

Message:
We in the SLPP need him to be the LEADER of the PMDC. He can be an easy target for the NEW SLPP POlitical Machine...


Subject: Guns and Bullets Chad goes aflame
From: M. Alieu iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 07:19:09 02/04/08 ()
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Subject: Re: Discount cigarettes on-line
From: Bai Bureh
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Date Posted: 08:30:28 02/04/08 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
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Subject: Re: Discount cigarettes on-line
From: Moderator
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Date Posted: 09:34:11 02/04/08 ()
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He slipped through the net, after the amnsety, but has been locked up again.


Subject: Sierra Leone Tribes in the West
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 20:51:28 02/03/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
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Interesting, is it not, that Sierra Leoneans in the West structure their interactions on the basis of their tribal pedigree. I suppose the fruit, even if transported, does not fall too far from the tree. Similar to the fake concept of 'race,' the concept of a 'tribe' serves no function in mankind's heroic, but probably, doomed attempt to deal with the nature that grounds its genesis and its degeneration in death

The spectacle is disgusting: educated folks segregating themeselves into 'tribal' groups: Tegloma, Foulah Descendants, Mandingo Descendants, and others too numerous to name. To me, all this smells of an archaic hermeneutical consciousness: let's kill the tribes. How, you wonder? Ignore the organizations that embody their ghostly existence! Common on people: you know that these 'tribal' organizations are no more and no less than pseudo political parties. Tribal segmentation fuels corruption, at least in the context of the politics of Sierra Leone. Accordingly, if corruption is a major impediment to so-called 'development', then its root, under my analysis, the 'tribe', must be uprooted, eviscerated, decimated: destroyed and buried in the grave yard of the history of contentless concepts. Question: what would replace the 'tribes'? Since my argument is that 'tribes' are nothing, the answer is obvious: nothing. Can't get something from nothing, correct?


Subject: Re: Sierra Leone Tribes in the West
From: KKW
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Date Posted: 09:11:40 02/04/08 ()
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It is human nature for individuals to identify themselves with one group or the other. Given that we are social animals, we are compelled by our instincts to identify with other individuals who share certain characteristics. These may be geographical proximity (neigbours, tribe, city), physical characteristics (skin-colour, race, tribe?), academic achievement (professional associations), social class (achieved financially or by heriditary pedigree), religious belief (muslim, christian, agnostic), sexual preference (yikes) or recreational choices (football, tennis).

If one believes that "no man is an island" then by default, we are forced to congregate within the label/ identity/group that we are most comfortable. Even if we were to eradicate tribe from our society, another equally toxic label could well take its place.


Subject: Re: Sierra Leone Tribes in the West
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 16:38:38 02/04/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: x4207254e.ip.e-nt.net at 66.7.37.78

Message:
Thus you admit that the notion of a 'tribe' is "toxic." Precisely my point. Similar to alcoholism, and alcoholics do drink in groups, we need a 12 step for tribalhoics. Second, most experts would hesitate to equate the the concept of 'skin color' with the ghostly concept of 'race.' If you admit that the alleged social structure 'tribe' is toxic, your projection or guess that something equally toxic may replace it cannot pass muster: if your argument holds, then slavery, cannibalism (hello Mahatma-Sanko) and other toxic 'social' phenomena would be cherished values NOW. Since they are not, your argument is flawed. These odious tribes have no social utility: social efficiency mandates their absolute negation. I wager that they will disappear in the next twenty years. Personally, I detest these tribal pests. Just a matter of taste, not knowledge. But, unlike tribalholics, I am tolerant: keep your tribe if you want. I understand, but disagree. As I argued in my lead posting, 'tribes', in the context of Sierra Leone, are economic tools. Since no reasonable person could maintain that they serve the same function in the West, it follows that the tribal organizations are not intended to reap anything in the West, rather they are long distance rape instruments of Sierra Leone. Agree?


Subject: Re: Sierra Leone Tribes in the West
From: Mensa
To: All
Date Posted: 07:08:42 02/04/08 ()
Email Address: unikad5@yahoo.com
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Message:
This one sounds pretty much like insulting the human being for responding positively to a natural behaviour. Nobody ever had the chance to make a choice. I'm a Temne and I'm proud of being one. So, is my tribe responsible for all the problems in the world? Of course not? Without tribe, there will still be problems! So what's the essence of this posting, I wonder!

Perhaps, if a subject like: What role do tribes play in a country's backwardness?, then you might see a more justifiable reasoning behind the posting. Period!

Let's not forget that we can still dig out some positive connnotations behind the creation of tribes. Everybody has this feeling of belonging, and it could help people come out in droves to do the impossible just to impress in the name of their tribes. And again, God created these tribes and we simply found ourselves naturally follow a bloodline. So where did we go wrong?

In fact, the more one tries to analyze the posting, the more I try to avoid the unwritten question: Why did God create the human?

Certain things are better left unquestioned!


Subject: Re: Sierra Leone Tribes in the West
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 07:51:47 02/04/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
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You make some good points: that certain things are better left "unquestioned; that the ratio cognoscendi of God's creative will cannot be fathomed my human reason. However, you fail to prove that God created 'tribes.' That proposition is dogmatically posited, which assumes that it would be contradictory in esse to affirm its contradictory, namely that God did not create 'tribes.' On the contrary, the proposition is eminently contestable. Accordingly, it is your burden now to prove in a sound argument that the proposition "God created tribes" is incontestable, evidently true.


Subject: Re: Sierra Leone Tribes in the West
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 21:43:46 02/03/08 ()
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Nothing has proven as noxious as the tribe to the socioeconomic development of Sierra Leone and Africa in general. I believe that tribal nationalism (my tribe as the nation, other tribes be damned!) will continue to fuel wars, instability, corruption and a host of other pestillences in Africa. A long time ago, I therefore decided never to associate myself with any tribal/regional grouping.

We will never develop as a country until we begin to think of ourselves as Sierra Leonean first and as Temne, Mende, Kono, Krio, Fulla, Limba, Loko etc second.

It will be impractical to obliterate the reality of the tribe per se. However, we must enlighten our people that the interests of the tribe can only be realized in a strong, united nation where justice and opportunity are accorded all tribes.

We must also make our compatriots in the West understand that the extreme love of tribe is unhealthy to tribe and nation. Unless we change the paradigm of the tribe in our collective consciousness, the nightmarish future is already there for all to see....Burundi, Rwanda, Congo, Somalia, Kenya, Chad and at least 40 other countries. We don't have to allow this devastating 'inevitability'.


Subject: Re: Sierra Leone Tribes in the West
From: kamara
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Date Posted: 09:41:30 02/04/08 ()
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How come switzerland, united States, brazil and Isreal are developed, where there are multiple ethnic groups. Is the failure of development due to the selfish and corrupt leaders and elite in Sierra Leone. There is nothing wrong in forming groups on a tribal basis as long as You do not supress the rights of other tribes.


Subject: Re: Sierra Leone Tribes in the West
From: KLA
To: All
Date Posted: 12:18:01 02/04/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Oh Kama,

True say talk me! Ethnic pride is not the same as Ethnic chauvinism!

The concept of "One TRIBE,ONE VOTE,ONE TIME" and the ensuing permanent governments,as in say KENYA, creates charges of Nepotism, corruption etc.

Sierra leone may be a victim of an ethics/Morals crisis, where the concept of right and wrong, becomes subjugated by the more negative primal instincts of humanity.

tstm


Subject: Re: Sierra Leone Tribes in the West
From: Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 12:36:03 02/04/08 ()
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Message:
Well said Sir;


Subject: Re: Sierra Leone Tribes in the West
From: Nar Me
To: All
Date Posted: 04:42:40 02/04/08 ()
Email Address: thenewsletter@hotmail.com
Entered From: amontsouris-152-1-62-180.w83-202.abo.wanadoo.fr at 83.202.72.180

Message:
Well said Fen Plaba. Thank you. Nar Me.


Subject: Re: Sierra Leone Tribes in the West
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 22:22:10 02/03/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
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Message:
Your obliteration of any link to "any tribal grouping" suggests that a universal application of your heuristic may "obliterate the reality of the tribe per se." Only an honorable person would adopt your paradigm, however. Accordingly, a moral reeducation of the populace may bring the bacon home. Alas, the very idea of a 'tribe' is immoral. Such objects are eidetically xenophobic, and xenophobia's irrationalism is palpable, for it falsely assumes that there are no bad parts (herein 'individuals' of a 'tribe') in the whole, the 'tribe'. At its core tribal affiliation is obscurantism. But my words will change nothing in Sierra Leone, since tribalism is a tool, it appears to me, of economic survival therein. But that is in Sierra Leone. Since the same does not attach to the West, Sierra Leoneans in the West steeped in tribal consciousness are ueber obscurantist. Or, so it appears to me.


Subject: Re: Sierra Leone Tribes in the West
From: FOR UMPIRE
To: All
Date Posted: 22:46:48 02/03/08 ()
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There is something called CLARITY in writing. Your writing below is nothing but thick rubbish. What were you trying to say? And please do not come back with that old rubbish of yours that tells people they cannot understand English. What you wrote below is complete drivel. Educated people can write beautiful English without sacrificing CLARITY to anything else. Please learn to write properly or simply spare us this rubbish no one understands.
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Your obliteration of any link to "any tribal grouping" suggests that a universal application of your heuristic may "obliterate the reality of the tribe per se." Only an honorable person would adopt your paradigm, however. Accordingly, a moral reeducation of the populace may bring the bacon home. Alas, the very idea of a 'tribe' is immoral. Such objects are eidetically xenophobic, and xenophobia's irrationalism is palpable, for it falsely assumes that there are no bad parts (herein 'individuals' of a 'tribe') in the whole, the 'tribe'. At its core tribal affiliation is obscurantism. But my words will change nothing in Sierra Leone, since tribalism is a tool, it appears to me, of economic survival therein. But that is in Sierra Leone. Since the same does not attach to the West, Sierra Leoneans in the West steeped in tribal consciousness are ueber obscurantist. Or, so it appears to me.



Subject: Re: Sierra Leone Tribes in the West
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 06:00:33 02/04/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
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Message:
Here we go again: conspicuously, your problem is not that you can't write a sentence. Your issue is embedded in pride: the assumption that because YOU are unable to understand a text---and here is your proverbial "thick rubbish"---therefore "no one" understands it is refuted by First Order Logic, not the structures of English. The mentioned assumption piggy backs on an illogical inference; hence it is absurd. Therefor, I am constrained by logic and the fact that at least ONE person in this forum understood my text, to conclude that your thinking and writing are UNDERSTANDABLY infused with fallacious cognitive moves. Translation: your posting is illogical, for if at least one person understands and positively applies my text, it follows as a matter of logic, not English, that your proposition that NO ONE UNDERSTANDS my text or positing is objectively, i.e. demonstrably FALSE. Accordingly, your posting is unarguably a case of the pot calling the kettle black. If this posting is unclear to you, "thick rubbish", to 'pimp' your locution, then I cannot help you: read and respond to postings you can understand. In fact, I urge you to desist from reading, understanding or applying my postings, to prevent another Umpire/Mahatma-Sankoh auseinandersetzung (translation: "interaction."). Go in peace!


Subject: Sierra Leone Tribes in the West
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 20:49:22 02/03/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
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Message:
Interesting, is it not, that Sierra Leoneans in the West structure their interactions on the basis of their tribal pedigree. I suppose the fruit, even if transported, does not fall too far from the tree. Similar to the fake concept of 'race,' the concept of a 'tribe' serves no function in mankind's heroic, but probably, doomed attempt to deal with the nature that grounds its genesis and its degeneration in death

The spectacle is disgusting: educated folks segregating themeselves into 'tribal' groups: Tegloma, Foulah Descendants, Mandingo Descendants, and others too numerous to name. To me, all this smells of an archaic hermeneutical consciousness: let's kill the tribes. How, you wonder? Ignore the organizations that embody their ghostly existence! Common on people: you know that these 'tribal' organizations are no more and no less than pseudo political parties. Tribal segmentation fuels corruption, at least in the context of the politics of Sierra Leone. Accordingly, if corruption is a major impediment to so-called 'development', then its root, under my analysis, the 'tribe', must be uprooted, eviscerated, decimated: destroyed and buried in the grave yard of the history of contentless concepts. Question: what would replace the 'tribes'? Since my argument is that 'tribes' are nothing, the answer is obvious: nothing. Can't get something from nothing, correct?


Subject: PUTATIVE FATHERHOOD: Replies to Man pikin/POLITICAL/Satow
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 20:41:01 02/03/08 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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1. Posted by Man pikin on February 01, 2008 In Reply to JL

MAN PIKIN: Mr. Leigh, are DNA results accurate. A friend of mine did a DNA recently and the result was negative. But the mother of this child is still insisting that my friend is the father of this child.

ANSWER: DNA reports are accurate in the US and in the West and most developed countries that I know off.

If the mother disputes a particular test result, she (or the child) can go to court and ask for a new test. The father, if he is certain the test was genuine and opposes further testing because he seeks closure, he should counter-sue for libel and ask for damages and may wish to consider joining the original DNA testing company as a party to the action.

Some people do lie to their graves out of shame and embarrassment but there is no need for this. Human life is precious.

In my case, I wanted closure. So I offered the mother $5,000 as damages in case a re-testing changes the result in her favor. This my offer was contigent upon her making the same offer with me getting her money in case the results are again in my favor. This means the truth teller gets $10,000. She is yet to accept my offer. Thank you. - JL

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2. Posted by POLITICAL on February 02, 2008 In Reply to JL

POLITICAL: JL, frankly I am disappointed with all your responses in this matter. So you believe this is the best approach to stop what you discribe as bamboatism?

JL: Sorry you are disappointed with my answers. I believe my viewpoint regarding the common problem of disputed/bogus fatherhood in our country is reasonable. As for the solution to bamboatism, my approach is my merely my own recommended approach, but I am sure there are superior approaches out there that I am not familiar with. Thanks. - JL

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3. Posted by Satow on February 02, 2008 In Reply to: JL

SATOW: Try maintaining the flow and experience acquired through rubbing shoulders with seasoned diplomats. It is an art of pure human refinement - to send one to the gallows whilst blessing you. The deceit in humans is made professional in diplomacy. take tem kill ant!!
If you only adopt what you acquired from the past - you are the greatest Sierra leonean we will ever have!! Talk half lef half with respect and dignity!!

JL: Thank you very much. "Talk half lef half" is bad advice in certain circumstances. Where people can learn from history, they must be educated with the available knowledge with respect and dignity. Failure to disclose valuable information in a timely manner will leave people ignorant and doomed to repeat avoidable mistakes.

Let's face it, most mistakes in our country are repeat mistakes, totally avoidable. "Talk true nor spoil friendship" with love and affection is the better approach in my humble opinion. Thank you. - JL


Subject: Re: PUTATIVE FATHERHOOD: JOHN LEIGH AGAIN
From: STOP THIS JOHN LEIGH
To: All
Date Posted: 23:31:21 02/03/08 ()
Email Address: brabanxx@aol.com
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Message:
JL:
I am wondering why this crusade about bogus... in Salone. I do understand where you are coming from. However, I do not understand the hard line and "moral" high road that you are trying to trod. The lady and the mother were trying to reach out to you even though you proved later that the you were not the father. It was possible then that the mother of that lady thought honestly and sincerely that you were the father to that child.

Your actions did not surprise me one bit when one thinks about the history of the Leigh family so to speak. Is it true JL that your newphew (sister's son) in Georgia even though his last name is LEIGH was fathered by a "country man" with a non creole last name? Is it true that your family was ashamed of your sister having a baby out of wedlock? Is it true that your mother, the grand mother of your nephew precluded the "country man" his paternal rights to that child then?
If true:
(i.) Have you folks-the Leighs corrected that which was done wrong in the 1960s; around the same time the young lady in discussion was born?

(ii) Are your folks willing to make a DNA date with the gentleman who claimed that he was your "komaneh"?

Please JL there are somethings that should be left alone. Do not throw stones when you live in a glass house. LONTA.


Subject: Re: PUTATIVE FATHERHOOD: JOHN LEIGH AGAIN
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 08:41:09 02/04/08 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Message:
Dear Mr. STOP THIS JOHN LEIGH:

Regrettably, You clearly do not know much about the Leigh family. If you were knowledgeable about my own Leighs, you would have been in possession of the following facts:

1. My father's mother (i.e. my grandmother) was a native of Masiola, Mahera Chiefdom in Bullom.

2. My father married three times (serially); two of his wives were provincial women: A Sherbro and Mendi.

3. My own mother is Mende. She is alive and well and residing in Moriba Town, Bo. I recently took her Sierra Leone-American, US-born, granddaughter to visit with her. We had a great time.

4. My older brother, Edward, married two so-called country women - a Mendi and a Fullah.

5. The father of my nephew you spoke about has Creole names - both Christian & surname.

6. As far as that nephew is concerned, it is not for me to decide about DNA testing or not. Besides, his paternity is not in dispute. Thus no DNA test is necessary.

7. From the above it is clear that some of the Leighs are part- so-called contry people. In short, we are Sierra Leoneans.

In conclusion, I agree with you that 'somethings should be left alone" on occasion. But it is likewise sensible that all our people ought to be properly informed of helpful facts to help reduce national ignorance.

Too often, many of our people go to their graves with most of their acquired knowledge. Society is thus deprived of valuable knowledge.

Today, our country is starving for helpful knowledge, with many of our people suffering from ignorance and deep superstition because lots of valuable knowledge lies buried irretrievably in graves across our land.

Let’s thus stop being guided by the unprogressive advice of "Talk half, leff half”. Better we talk 95% and retain only 5% or less in our bellies. Now that’s really smart because Belly Knowledge benefits no one, maybe, not even the possessor.

Most times, Belly Knowledge is used solely to trip someone. I prefer helping people from falling into a pit. 'Prevention' is clearly always better than 'cure'. Lets go positive! Thanks. - JL


Subject: Re: PUTATIVE FATHERHOOD: JOHN LEIGH AGAIN
From: John Talks About Kontry People
To: All
Date Posted: 06:03:38 02/04/08 ()
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Message:
What I find nasty about John Leigh is his hatred of country people. He says provocative words like "our women do bambote". He also says he was named the father because he is a Creole boy. John Leigh is full of hate. I see why he is so ugly


Subject: Re: PUTATIVE FATHERHOOD: JOHN LEIGH AGAIN
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 08:58:47 02/04/08 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Message:
Dear Mr. john Talks About Kontry People:

Your analysis is completely wrong. I have zero hatred for anyone.

'Bamboatism' is a terrible sickness in our country and we ought to face it and try to control it sensibly by reducing it because, as someone correctly stated, it can't be terminated and can spread terrible diseases.

Further, women are not the ones only to blame or with the sole responsibility to change their conduct. Men share a hefty part of the blame and must take their fair share of responsibility to control it.

And I indicated that I was falsely named the father not merely because I was a so-called Creole boy (in fact, that was the perception of the mother's people). I said I was named because she fancied me as the top of the pack of her tangomates.

Further, I don't know when or where you grew up in Salone. But those of us who were in school throughout the colonial period in the Western Area will know exactly what I mean by a Creole family preferring a Creole father for their grandoffspring than a so-called Kontry man. But not every Creole family had the mentality. The Leighs don't and things are quite different today! - JL


Subject: Re: PUTATIVE FATHERHOOD: Replies to Man pikin/POLITICAL/Satow
From: POLITICAL
To: All
Date Posted: 22:26:07 02/03/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Mr. JL, my disappointment on your answer and argument was based on a simple legal analogy which in my opinion I believe should be apply in this case. There is no way you will legally argued that you decided not to take care of the child because you believe you are not the father without a DNA test. Your arguement was just a mere assumption based on the bamboat life of the woman (the mother). This is nothing more than an attitude defense. It was not a proof. We've seen similar cases on the maury shows where the husband believe he is not the father due to the bamboat behavior of the wife and the complexion of the child which is clearly not in sync with the husband. When the result came he was the father. Surprise?
As an educated and matured individual like your type who have seen much in this world, I expect more than your defensive arguement. Should it had been proven that indeed you are the father after 40 years of denial, what would you have done? Beg for forgiveness? What about the innocent child who did not ask you or her to bring her to this world. He was brought here due to your furnication or adultery, which is religiously forbidden. After all these, your defensive for not taking responsibilty, was very naive. "That is the way to stop bamboatism in Sierra Leone". Bamboatism is not something you and I or anyone can stop. If it is something that can be stopped, the Saudis would have done that long since because when a woman commit such crime, she will be stone to death. What happen when such prunishment becomes the state law, people are doing it in secret, but that does not stop the practice.
I want you to clearly understand that I am not arguing for the mother. In fact she has committed a heinous crime and should be treated the way you did. I am more concern for the innocent child.

NOTE: This response was written in a hurry and could not had the chance to proof-read it. Any mistake should be forgiven.


Subject: Re: PUTATIVE FATHERHOOD: Replies to Man pikin/POLITICAL/Satow
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 09:23:29 02/04/08 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Message:
Dear POLITICAL:

Please understand the basic argument I depended on for refusing a bogus fatherhood honor. I said I KNEW I could not have been the biological father because I did not penetrate. I chickened out at the last minute and back-off. My decision was based on KNOWLEDGE, not mere belief.

She came in already pregnant and was seeking to "wehram pahn me". Her full-term daughter was born seven-and-half months after she first claimed we tangoed.

Thus there was no possibility of DNA testing proving I was responsible for the disputed fatherhood. It was her mother's conduct, compounded by her deliberate false choice of me that led to the problems you've speculated on.

However, I do not believe the mother committed any heinous crime. She merely committed a very serious civl wrong. And I understand she learned from the sad experience with me: she had further children but made no further known bogus fatherhood claims.

Finally, while I am sympathetic for the sad plight of innocent children without fathers, especially given the harsh living condition in our sad country, I do not think the solution is to cave in to lies or be sucked into sympathetic action that merely encourages more civil wrongdoing of the type under discussion.

My own solution was first to totally and completely defeat the bogus claim. Secondly, I have heavily supported orphanages and charities in our country. - JL


Subject: Re: PUTATIVE FATHERHOOD: Replies to Man pikin/POLITICAL/Satow
From: Candos
To: All
Date Posted: 11:39:42 02/04/08 ()
Email Address: gonos@yahoo.com
Entered From: 79-66-107-220.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com at 79.66.107.220

Message:
Are you really serious? Mr Former Ambassador, do you need to stoop so low? You do not need to respond to silly things like this. Your private life should be just that, Private. I dont agree with you politically, but that does not mean you are not respected. All these guys are doing is pressing your buttons and you are falling for it.


Subject: Re: PUTATIVE FATHERHOOD: Replies to Man pikin/POLITICAL/Satow
From: POLITICAL
To: All
Date Posted: 20:54:09 02/04/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
I believe as JL correctly said, it is a serious issue that should be on the national debate. This is not about pressing his button. I only disagree with his response, but he is correct. There is no more "we can't talk about it" in sierra leone. We should talk about every thing that affecting our society. From poverty to bamboatism, witch craft to marying multiple wives.
Now let me come back to JL. May be I missed the part that you said you did not penetrate in your original piece. Sorry if that is the case. I was strongly thought you did eat, but refused to answer because the lady was a sex hunter.


Subject: Re: PUTATIVE FATHERHOOD: Replies to Man pikin/POLITICAL/Satow
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 12:20:05 02/04/08 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
Entered From: cache-mtc-ah10.proxy.aol.com at 64.12.117.202

Message:
Dear Mr. Condos:

The issue is a very important one. I don't mind sinking to the level of some jockers to get my point across. When you are facing a public issue, it is wrong to see it as 'stooping so low'. I am just an ordinary citizen.

As I see it, everyone will soon run out of ideas to gain my attention. I will then quit this issue quietly. Thanks. - JL


Subject: Re: PUTATIVE FATHERHOOD: Replies to Man pikin/POLITICAL/Satow
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 06:40:17 02/04/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-114-169-98.hsd1.dc.comcast.net at 76.114.169.98

Message:
Forget about your 'mistakes.' All linguistic 'mistakes' are conventional, and class anchored, to boot. What matters is the quality of your thinking, and may I suggest that you have nothing to "take back" on that: a fine mind, you have. Bravo!


Subject: Re: PUTATIVE FATHERHOOD: Replies to Man pikin/POLITICAL/Satow
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 15:15:27 02/04/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: x4207254e.ip.e-nt.net at 66.7.37.78

Message:
Here comes the obscurantist again: you must be drunk from sucking all those fingers your uncle Sankoh sent you before he was dispatched to hell. I hear your wife is intensive care: Osh o! Woto!


Subject: Re: PUTATIVE FATHERHOOD: Replies to Man pikin/POLITICAL/Satow
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 15:22:39 02/04/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: x4207254e.ip.e-nt.net at 66.7.37.78

Message:
Incidentally, it is good that she is in intensive care: "bambotism" got her there. Bra, u nor get shame? From now on I'll let Political deal with you: he knows how to rub u face naar dotty. Go eat you long sleeve, alaki.


Subject: Re: PUTATIVE FATHERHOOD: Replies to Man pikin/POLITICAL/Satow
From: Mahatma
To: All
Date Posted: 11:11:30 02/04/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 88.202.251.188

Message:
Thank God! You've been refined.


Subject: Re: PUTATIVE FATHERHOOD: Replies to Man pikin/POLITICAL/Satow
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 20:19:02 02/04/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-114-169-98.hsd1.dc.comcast.net at 76.114.169.98

Message:
Foday, what body part did you have for dinner tonight?


Subject: Re: PUTATIVE FATHERHOOD: Replies to Man pikin/POLITICAL/Satow
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 18:23:46 02/04/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: mckeldinb-79.umd.edu at 129.2.18.79

Message:
Greetings my brothers and sisters. Most people who read these forums, particularly this thread will absolutely see why I am not one of the favored people in such a gathering. This in my view, is why most issues concerning Sierra Leonean Communities are left unsolved because, our focus most of the time are far removed from the topic at hand to trivial and more personal vendettas.
The question here is: "Mr. Leigh, are DNA results accurate. A friend of mine did a DNA recently and the result was negative. But the mother of this child is still insisting that my friend is the father of this child."
A simple question that needs Scientific explanation should not go down to attacks on Ambassador Leigh's family who has nothing to do with what might have transpired between him, Ambassador Leigh, and his partner. The subject discussed here regarding DNA test conducted by him is a private issue, which is left with him to share with us or not if he so pleases. But for the fact that he is sharing such an information with us, is to reach a resolve, putting to rest many rumors that might have been hovering about such an issue in our communities. Correct or not, I believe it is left with the said lady to take judicial measures to bring all assumptions to a close because DNA tests are very accurate.
Through DNA tests many people have been exonerated, people who have been imprisoned in the United States for long terms, say twenty and more years, for crimes they did not commit.
DNA testing has given assurance to families who had doubts that certain children were either theirs or not.
DNA tests in basic genealogy is not a test of the genes themselves but the filler junk DNA
in-between our genes that are been tested.
Every human has forty-six (46) chromosomes. The 22 pair chromosomes and the (XY) and the (XX) chromosomes. These(XX) and (XY) chromosomes are the sex chromosomes. The mother donates and (X) chromosome while the dad donates either and (X) chromosome or a (Y) chromosome. If (X) chromosome is donated by the father, the child becomes a female and if the father donates a (Y) the child then is a boy. Therefore, it is these chromosome (Y) chromosome testing and the (mtDNA) that is tested to see if in fact, the child is the mother's (because many women have been exchanging children in hospitals or stealing babies or if the child is an offspring of the said parents, particularly the father's.
I have not gone into technical terms for the purpose of simple explanation for a forum. I just finished a Microbiology class and studied Anatomy and Physiology plus I have done extensive reading into it. Should somebody wish to know.
This DNA can also be tested to find out about one's linage or heritage. Recently, Oprah Winfrey was on TV. where it was made known through DNA test that her linage is from West Africa, specifically, Liberia. African-Americans have been able to identify their linage through DNA testing, which started in the 1990's. DNA has been scientifically proven to be 99.999% oh, that was my test result for my lovely daughter. But DNA has been proven to be effectively accurate pending on the collection and handling of samples.
I think Ambassador Leigh was manly enough to be tested for the sake of the child who would one day want to know his or her identity. We should respect that, respect the child's privacy, the mother's and her family's. He is a brave man to have tried testing. There is nothing hurtful for a child, a father and the mother to learn at a latter date that the father, the child or the mother she so loves is not her mother or father. Can you imagine if we start carrying-out DNA testing in Sierra Leone. Most people here are brothers and sisters but they just don't know it. In fact, some are even married to their brothers but the secrete that we keep is very hurtful.
So please brothers and sisters, let us respect each other, which is the only way we can be assured a reciprocation.


Subject: FROM THE LAST ELECTIONS.
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 20:08:16 02/03/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
A side-splitting parody of George Bush and John Kerry, from the 2004 elections.


Subject: SL-COR: HOW IS GONNA WORK?
From: POLITICAL
To: All
Date Posted: 19:10:35 02/03/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ip70-162-167-106.ph.ph.cox.net at 70.162.167.106

Message:
I read about SL-COR article on cocorioko. It is amazing idea if implemented. However, I have concern how it is going to work, especially when it comprises of different organizations with different agendas. Also, there are 1000s of SL organizations across the united states and the proponents should lay a clear aims and objectives and how they are going to administer all these many organizations with different objectives without conflict of interest or friction. Remember, some of these organizations are tribalistic, regionalistic or sectionalistic in nature. Some are born out of misrepresentation by the others and are serving strictly their bases. Hard to see how it's gonna work for the long run. I am however optimistic that one day Sierra Leoneans will put their tribal or regions behind their country.


Subject: Re: SL-COR: HOW IS GONNA WORK?
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 21:12:10 02/03/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-114-169-98.hsd1.dc.comcast.net at 76.114.169.98

Message:
Your skepticism is well founded. Please see my posting "Sierra Leonean Tribes in the West." Borrowing from the language of moribund Marxist grand theorizing, it may be said that any and all 'umbrella' organizations are "superstructures" of their 'tribal' bases. It is all for nothing. Nothing good can come from a depostically imposed categorization. The Brits arguably created these 'tribes'. Why accept the categorical tools of a foreign despotic power?


Subject: Re: SL-COR: HOW IS GONNA WORK?
From: POLITICAL
To: All
Date Posted: 21:46:37 02/03/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ip70-162-167-106.ph.ph.cox.net at 70.162.167.106

Message:
Well said umpire. Regretably, most of these ethnocentricisms are created and distributed to younger folks by our elders. Take an example to tegloma organization. The former president Dr. Nyallay is a respected sierra leoneans, but due to tribal influence was doing a lot to promote the objectives of the organization even though he knew tribalism will not succeed. The mandingo organization, the Northern alliance, to name but few. All these organizaions are formed and headed by educated folks who should have known better and encourgage younger folks to desist from tribalism.


Subject: WHAT THE DIFFRENCE BETWEEN NONSLINA AND S LCOR .
From: CONFUSED
To: All
Date Posted: 16:12:45 02/03/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-246-221-174.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 71.246.221.174

Message:
I THINK THEY MAY BE DUPLICATING THEIR EFFORT.


Subject: Re: WHAT THE DIFFRENCE BETWEEN NONSLINA AND S LCOR .
From: Umpire
To: All
Date Posted: 22:01:58 02/03/08 ()
Email Address: jallohlaw@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-114-169-98.hsd1.dc.comcast.net at 76.114.169.98

Message:
Right. However, the object of the duplication is nothing. Only God knows the answer to Sierra Leone's problem. Accordingly, my suggestions are mere ideas open to reasoned falsification. Any intellectual bravado in this problematic is naive. Look, we inherited a messy cultural tradition, a mullato one, to boot. We are caught in a catch twenty two: the historical yoke can only be decimated with the tools of the despotic colonizers. However, these tools are anchored in values that may be cancerous to the vigor of the Sierra leone's welfare. That seems to imply that all our education, to the extent that it is informed by Western values, methods and methodologies, is for the birds: a perfect historical trap. I hope I am mistaken, for if my guess is right, we are toast. I sense that a counter-argument is needed from a Brit.


Subject: Re: WHAT THE DIFFRENCE BETWEEN NONSLINA AND S LCOR .
From: CONFUSED
To: All
Date Posted: 14:11:15 02/04/08 ()
Email Address: ABU@AOL.COM.
Entered From: pool-71-246-221-174.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 71.246.221.174

Message:
WELL I HOPE AND PRAY THAT IT WORKS. SO THAT WE CAN HAVE SOMETHING WE CAN BE PROUD OF AS A PEOPLE. GOD BLESS AND KEEP UP WITH THE GOOD INTENTIONS.


Subject: BARRACK AND HILLARY'S DISCO BOOGIE!
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 15:06:12 02/03/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-4577b27b.dyn.optonline.net at 69.119.178.123

Message:
Apart from Salone, elections in Africa are quite depressing affars. Kenyans, with eyes wide open, are murdering their way into another Rwanda, and Chad is trying to effect a change of government, not through the ballot box, but through bombs, RPGs and AK-47s.

Obassanjo stole Nigeria's elections for Yar'Ardua, Teodoro Obiang in Equatorial Guinea gets upset if he only gets 99% of the votes; he considers it an insult if he doesn't get 100%! The Presidents-for-life in Francophone Africa make me sick with their election charade. Behind all this is the paranoid toxicity of the TRIBE!

At least we can enjoy the beauty of democracy in the West in peace and a little humour.


Subject: http://www.dipdive.com/
From: FMANSARAY
To: All
Date Posted: 15:03:40 02/03/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-172-251-180.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net at 71.172.251.180

Message:
Powerful political message .

Pass it on.


http://www.dipdive.com/


Subject: Re: http://www.dipdive.com/
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 15:32:34 02/03/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-4577b27b.dyn.optonline.net at 69.119.178.123

Message:
Foday, indeed this is deep and inspirational. Those powerful three words "YES WE CAN!" are still clanging in my brain. Appropriate for America, appropriate for Salone, appropriate for humanity.


Subject: Re: http://www.dipdive.com/
From: foday mansaray
To: All
Date Posted: 17:10:17 02/03/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
'Yes we can’. Sierra Leoneans will forever remembered those words. Despite the horrific ordeal of the (1990’s) rebel war, we have managed to come-out on top as a country that can co-exist with one another.

We have been envied by many democracies around the world for our courage and patience to achieve lasting peace.

For those minorities and enemies of progress, look at the trend before it is too late. Join the freedom train, ‘Yes we can’.

Sierra Leone will rise from the bottom OF the human index to the top, just like the Arab Emirates and United States of American.


All its take is perseverance and hard work. Yes we can...

PASS IT ON.


Subject: Re: http://www.dipdive.com/
From: REALITY
To: All
Date Posted: 15:11:07 02/03/08 ()
Email Address:
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Message:

http://www.dipdive.com/


Subject: MAYOR of FREETOWN
From: Kontri Creole
To: All
Date Posted: 13:49:40 02/03/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-72-68-220-62.nycmny.east.verizon.net at 72.68.220.62

Message:
The Former Mayor stood firm when SLPP starved the city of central government support. I knew the current Deputy Mayor since Pa Iscandri nominated him for Council Man in 1987. Also, he is a socialite and liberal. But I wonder what caused the "Palace Coup".
I just read that the Late deputy Mayor's brother wants to run for Mayor too. Everyone in SL can contest seats from Bo-Water-Side to Ricket. We must stop and think of FCC's history and recognize the grassroot factor (Kalokoh Dynasty and Freetown's needs).APC watch out?


Subject: Re: MAYOR of FREETOWN
From: jeffrey Hunter
To: All
Date Posted: 12:08:08 02/04/08 ()
Email Address: jhunter@yahoo.com
Entered From: wanglobe.hilton.com at 192.251.125.85

Message:
Once a scout is always a scout. I heard people were talking about new APC, what is new about APC? We are seeing the same ugly situations that were going on in the country under their watch is still happening. Does Earnest Koroma think he is going to remain in power forever? We did not see the SLPP removing people from their jobs because they are APC, everybody have right to belong to a political party of their choice. I can understand if it is only the cabinent and the ambassadors, but civil service? That is dead wrong. What ever he has started when the other people come to power they will do the same. Let his own people prepare to leave their jobs when other party take over power in the country. His activities so far in the country is a receipe for a return to the 11 years of problems in our country.


Subject: Re: MAYOR of FREETOWN
From: jeffrey Hunter
To: All
Date Posted: 12:06:18 02/04/08 ()
Email Address: jhunter@yahoo.com
Entered From: wanglobe.hilton.com at 192.251.125.85

Message:
Once a scout is always a scout. I heard people were talking about new APC, what is new about APC? We are seeing the same ugly situations that were going on in the country under their watch is still happening. Does Earnest Koroma think he is going to remain in power forever? We did not see the SLPP removing people from their jobs because they are APC, everybody have right to belong to a political party of their choice. I can understand if it is only the cabinent and the ambassadors, but civil service? That is dead wrong. What ever he has started when the other people come to power they will do the same. Let his own people prepare to leave their jobs when other party take over power in the country. His activities so far in the country is a receipe for a return to the 11 years of problems in our country.


Subject: Re: MAYOR of FREETOWN
From: one salone
To: All
Date Posted: 19:39:40 02/03/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-114-97-243.washdc.dsl-w.verizon.net at 71.114.97.243

Message:
Creole Kontri Boy. I strongly believe Sierra Leone is for all Sierra Leoneans. Let us forget about set asides. Let us create an environment where every Sierra Leonean can compete equally for any positions of trust, and be accountable to the constituents represented. Free enterprise is what Sierra Leone needs. As for the history you mentioned, please be reminded that some "Kontri Boys" served as mayors of the municipality in the past, and did very well. Prominent among them was the Late President Siaka Stevens. "Lontha".


Subject: Re: MAYOR of FREETOWN
From: Creole Kontri Boy
To: All
Date Posted: 15:21:09 02/03/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 192.64.157.56

Message:
Forget about the history of Freetown City Council and genuinely discuss its needs in our efforts to promote our Sierra leone as a model in the continent. On paper, Yayah looks very promising and a candidate to be taken seriously. It is ok for EBK to send these invitations to return home, it is something else to be treated fairly when an invitation is accepted.


Subject: RE: President Koroma's BBC Interview.
From: MUSA KALAWA
To: All
Date Posted: 13:21:08 02/03/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: adsl-76-222-108-188.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net at 76.222.108.188

Message:
Please click on link below for your listening plesure.


Subject: THE MOST DESPICABLE RIGHT-WINGER IN AMERICA TODAY!
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 12:28:58 02/03/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-4577b27b.dyn.optonline.net at 69.119.178.123

Message:
Nobody infuriates me more in American politics like Rush Limbaugh. I think he is one of the main reasons for the successful coalition of Fiscal, National Security and Social Values conservatives that led to the ascendancy of the Republican Party in the last two decades.

Love him or hate him, Rush is a formidable propagandist with 50 million loyal radio listeners and the Democratic Party will have to get their own liberal version of Rush Limbaugh if they want to dominate in the battle for the heart and soul of America. I can't stand Mr Limbaugh but I respect him.


Subject: Re: THE MOST DESPICABLE RIGHT-WINGER IN AMERICA TODAY!
From: Kalos
To: All
Date Posted: 14:44:21 02/03/08 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 192.64.157.56

Message:
FP, Rush L. is the big mouth and bigot for the far-right of the Republican Party. He has a huge blind following that will be up in arms to destroy Obama or Clinton. The only hope for the Democratic Party is a group of radio talkers, mainly with AIR AMERICA radio, that are slowly matching the likes of Hannity and Rush L.

Are the democrats too academic?


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